Gran Turismo World Series

[IORT_Fishtail]

Pug VGT is very quick as well. Not an entire Supra fest - what a surprise, the moaning about it being OP wasn’t accurate.

LoL

Parking the RCZ for Daytona. Running a few laps in the vgt and already in 1:47’s.
Minor drawbacks in VR since I have no gages but shifting by sound is something that I tend to do a lot anywho.

 

[Geauxgreddy]

I entered this race confident and hopeful. I felt I had solid pace in the Alfa 4C. 1st slot I was where I needed to be after qualy, Q3. But soon made a huge error and fell to p14. Spent the rest of the race playing catch up. I dont like driving desperate but thats what it was. Finished p7 but was unhappy with my race so I went again. I shouldn't have 🤣 Bah.

Looking forward to Daytona. I think 4C is a bit of a sleeper. Not Ford or supra fast but she can Boogie in the slip.

 

[Talon16]

So I've been continuing to do tests with various Gr3 cars around the Nord End layout. Just checking out some speeds, lap times, and fuel usage (I'd like to do tire wear as well but can't really as there is nothing solid to quantify it).

I've already picked my Manus for #1 account (Toyota), #2 account (Ford), but yet to for the EMEA account. I just clipped into DR A and am debating doing some races from the back to try and get back down to B just for the extra time slots (one nice thing about the EMEA account is the time difference, so I'd be able to get a race or two in first thing in the morning before the day gets busy as the first GT2 time slot for US is at noon EST)... but that's another topic for another day.

I do one lap on RMs (again, tire/fuel are both on, 4x and 2x respectfully), so long as there are no big mistakes in the lap I run with it.

All that to say I did a lap in the Peugeot VGT and it is quite fast, top end wise. But, it is the most thirsty as well. At the end of a lap it showed 3.0 laps remaining; the Ford GT LM showed 3.2 and Vette showed 3.7 for comparison sake (The McLaren and Lexus both appear they won't need to refuel during the race, FWIW). Seems like it'll be a good car for qualifying but maybe not so much for the race. But, of course, that's not how it works for GTWS which makes things much more interesting!

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My Ford LM II time on Daytona is now at #24, ahead of names like Surrano, Gallo, and Digit (which my Supra time is in front of Digit as well). It won't stay that way, but cool to see none-the-less.

 

[Stilva]

Just throwing this out there, but as of a few minutes ago the two top times at Dayton RC are a pair of Ford GT LMs (one Test and one Race).

I just did a handful of laps on two of my accounts, one of which I picked Ford (#2) and the other Toyota (#1)... I am ~.350" faster in the Ford LM II. My time was like a 45.4 (I think). It was #16 on the overall - albeit very young - leaderboard.

Told you all this car was quick.

I improved my time over the GT Race Car by a second with one of the GT LMs I had sitting in my collection earlier today. I was in the top 250 with my time, but it's still early like you said so I'll be down the list later in the week. I did a custom test race and realized I had the wrong tires on the car after seeing how long a splash and dash of fuel would take so that was a waste of time. But not really as I got more experience with the car.

Anyway, I was able to run a no stop race with .2 laps of fuel left in the tank with the proper tires on the car. I was short shifing and coasting from just past the start/finish line and at the 3 board before the bus stop to save some fuel. I don't know if it made a difference and I can see the coasting backfiring on me spectacularly come the actual race. But, please note that I'm a B rank driver and I drive like a barbarian that also didn't have the benefit of having a car to draft behind for additional fuel saving.

 

[IORT_Fishtail]

Just did a practice lobby with the Pug VGT and I went flat out to see how it would play out on fuel. Got to lap 17 and had to stop in for a gulp but and didn’t do tires. Finished the 21 laps in 38:25 but I think the high BOP might play out a bit differently than the lobby settings as my lap times were a little bit slower than practicing in the Manu practice mode.

Not sure how much fuel saving with other cars will hurt overall time.
I may need to compare the RCZ fuel usage vs over race time.

 

[samppa_944]

Thanks for your opinion, much appriciated! Here is how I see it: My intent was to be alongside him at the end of the straight, but because of the first contact when he blocked me midd straight I did not have enough momentum anymore , so at the last moment I decided to back off at the last moment. I stayed on the inside of the corner as much as possible and breaked a bit earlier. I did not expect him to turn in so tight as he should know I was there, but unfortunately he turned into the corner as he did and I could not dissapear and so there was contact.

At that moment I can still turn in the corner but not as tight as I want because of my attempt to avoid the McLaren and the contact. I make contact with his car again at I think the worst place possible. The contact is light but because he puts on the throttle at pretty much that same moment his car spins out of control.

Main issue to me was his earlier driving. What he did on the straight was not the first time, he blocked me several times, and each time I backed off to avoid an incident. Think in the end he was really defending a bit too hard and had a bit of an attitude like: "you back off as I will absolutey not and otherwise there will be contact". (sort of like a fellow countryman of mine used to do a bit in F1 )

But I do feel I am at least partially responsible for this incident, even though trying my best to avoid it. And maybe I should have been more decisive...

Yes, I feel like you should have backed off more. That or turn more into the left, you went quite a bit to the right. He was almost all the way to the right, didn't turn back in that badly. I'd actually say 65-35 on you, even if it is not intentional. But yeah that weaving is so bad, one could say the racing gods decided to punish him 😄

Reminds me off a league race I did yesterday. A driver I fought with for a lead in my class punted me off and I lost 5 seconds. They could have waited and let me back through but nope. Then I kept the gap constant at 5-6 secs. Then I manage to do a big undercut in the pits and got to a 1 sec. The twist was that he was on mediums again after the short medium stint, by accident. The optimal strat was soft-mediums a few laps, then softs again. I pass him and he pits again, for softs. And then some more insult to injury, his internet disconnects him from the race. Sometimes the game punishes you from bad actions 😈

 

[Roggers]

Just did a practice lobby with the Pug VGT and I went flat out to see how it would play out on fuel. Got to lap 17 and had to stop in for a gulp but and didn’t do tires. Finished the 21 laps in 38:25 but I think the high BOP might play out a bit differently than the lobby settings as my lap times were a little bit slower than practicing in the Manu practice mode.

Not sure how much fuel saving with other cars will hurt overall time.
I may need to compare the RCZ fuel usage vs over race time.

Is this Daytona?
If so I found the Porsche can no stop with short shifting. I did a few laps with the Supra to compare and it looks like that car needs more than short shifting to save fuel. I think it could be a close race between the one stopper and no stoppers with pit lane loss. Im sure Daytona is only what 15 seconds pit loss.

 

[dkstz]

Anyone using the Ferrari? I was wondering how it would compare to the rest of the field in this track...

 

[KaYibE]

I entered the warmup lobby yesterday and ran 3 laps then backed out. These 3 race "seasons" are just totally pointless and doesn't engage me at all.
It feels like, as a fellow team mate said, daily races with limited time.slots.

Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.

Oh, I would prefer a one shot system as well. And I mean that you can only try once, then the rest of the slots are blocked so no one can join after their points to wreck the others.

What I meant is a 3 race season isn't a season at all and it doesn't engage me. At all.
I remember the 30 race season from GT Sport

 

[KaYibE]

Oh, I would prefer a one shot system as well. And I mean that you can only try once, then the rest of the slots are blocked so no one can join after their points to wreck the others.

What I meant is a 3 race season isn't a season at all and it doesn't engage me. At all.
I remember the 30 race season from GT Sport

Official season will be a lot bigger/longer.

 

[IORT_Fishtail]

Is this Daytona?
If so I found the Porsche can no stop with short shifting. I did a few laps with the Supra to compare and it looks like that car needs more than short shifting to save fuel. I think it could be a close race between the one stopper and no stoppers with pit lane loss. Im sure Daytona is only what 15 seconds pit loss.

Yes, it was Daytona sorry for being vague. Definitely a minimal pit loss if only in for a few liters and nothing more.
I’m just gonna go for it on Wednesday and see how it plays out.
I like trying different approaches and seeing where they work and where they don’t.
Fuel saving is quite nerve racking too because you need to be confident to close the gap once the faster car pits.
With VR I’m flying blind to gaps and pit stops so I only know my position but zero feedback on where I am from the lead car.

Good Luck with your race!

 

[Roggers]

Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.

I totally understand what your saying and I do agree to some extent that the races should be one shot only, but my issue with that is in the lower ranks the way some people drive, your race can be over within the 1st corner. Having the next slot available gives you another chance. Plus I’m the lower ranks were not really playing for anything as PD obviously don’t see GT2 or GT3 leagues as worthy enough. I’m not expecting PD to put on a world finals for GT2/GT3 leagues but I do think they should be some reward or something to play for in these leagues.

Id like there to be a 3 race limit. You can enter any of the all day slots, but once you completed your 3 race thats your limit. I think 3 slot is fair chance for everyone to get a decent race.
A+ plus should adopt this method. Have all day slots like GT2 & 3 but then have 3 official ranked GTWS slots. Casual A & A+ drivers can then still compete and score points but there points won’t count toward a seat in the GTWS final, and having 3 official ranked slots then mean those GTWS drivers aiming for the finals have competitive races.

Yes, it was Daytona sorry for being vague. Definitely a minimal pit loss if only in for a few liters and nothing more.
I’m just gonna go for it on Wednesday and see how it plays out.
I like trying different approaches and seeing where they work and where they don’t.
Fuel saving is quite nerve racking too because you need to be confident to close the gap once the faster car pits.
With VR I’m flying blind to gaps and pit stops so I only know my position but zero feedback on where I am from the lead car.

Good Luck with your race!

Ah no worries.
End of the day you can only run your own race and doing it the fastest way possible. Fuel saving is quite a tricky technique, one that I struggle with at times. Sometimes I’ve tried to fuel save in races as I was advised by others and it’s not worked out as my pace was too slow compared to the 1 stoppers.
Yeah VR biggest let down was not having the delta between cars.
Yeah Wednesday for me im in the Porsche which can do the race no stopping, but they are 1 or 2 cars who I think could 1 stop and beat me. Just have to see how it goes Wednesday 👍🏻

 

[Talon16]

Anyone using the Ferrari? I was wondering how it would compare to the rest of the field in this track...

I can't confirm it, but the streamer Grove Street uses the Ferrari a lot. Might be worth checking out his channel/stream.

https://www.youtube.com/@GroveStreetRacing5/streams

I'd imagine the Ferrari would not be good at Dayton, because its top end isn't very good. But I have no idea.

 

[icycls]

What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.

 

[GTWolverine]

I can't confirm it, but the streamer Grove Street uses the Ferrari a lot. Might be worth checking out his channel/stream.

https://www.youtube.com/@GroveStreetRacing5/streams

I'd imagine the Ferrari would not be good at Dayton, because its top end isn't very good. But I have no idea.

I don't remember him testing the Ferrari at Daytona. He said he's leaning towards the Supra.

 

[SPL170db]

Just did a practice lobby with the Pug VGT and I went flat out to see how it would play out on fuel. Got to lap 17 and had to stop in for a gulp but and didn’t do tires. Finished the 21 laps in 38:25 but I think the high BOP might play out a bit differently than the lobby settings as my lap times were a little bit slower than practicing in the Manu practice mode.

Not sure how much fuel saving with other cars will hurt overall time.
I may need to compare the RCZ fuel usage vs over race time.

Just did a race sim in the Supra. Pretty close to the same results but I was able to make 18 laps with no fuel saving. I hate doing fuel saving as well so I'll probably just go for it and stop for the splash of fuel to make the finish.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Official season will be a lot bigger/longer.

Well. I will believe that when I see that. Last official season had 3 races count.

 

[Fezzik]

Well. I will believe that when I see that. Last official season had 3 races count.

The proper season 1 had 6 races, with top 3 scores counting.
Season 2 had 8 races, with top 4 scores counting.
Maybe we get up to 10 this time, depends on their schedule for the live events and finals.

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

In case anyone is interested and doesn't know, the Daytona race starts in the dark and ends in daylight

Pit loss is around 16-17 seconds if filling with roughly 3 laps of fuel.

 

[Famine]

Well. I will believe that when I see that. Last official season had 3 races count.

Pretty standard. I don't think there's ever been one with any more than 50% of all possible round results counting. 25-40% has been the norm across the five previous seasons and the various preludes, tests, and exhibitions.

Even the 30-race season (2020; it was originally four blocks of ten, but then it became three blocks of ten) only had eight results count, or less than 30% - equivalent to fewer than best three from ten.

 

[IORT_Fishtail]

What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.

I didn’t spend that much time and put down 1:47.2 with mid 1:46 as optimal.
If I mess up at all or get slowed down in the race I’ll be in a tough spot.

 

[GTWolverine]

In case anyone is interested and doesn't know, the Daytona race starts in the dark and ends in daylight

Pit loss is around 16-17 seconds if filling with roughly 3 laps of fuel.

There's cars that need to save multiple laps of fuel?? The American V8s need to barely save 1 lap...

 

[Fezzik]

What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.

Also in GT2, running the AMG GT3. Drove as normal for first half, some short-shifting for final 10 laps. Finished with 0%/0.1 laps, averaged 1:49s for most of the race.

 

[appu]

Can someone please make a drawing to show track limits at the Daytona bus stop chicane? The white lines don't seem to define the limits. But if I put one tire on grass, I seem to get track limit penalty. Thank you in advance!

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

There's cars that need to save multiple laps of fuel?? The American V8s need to barely save 1 lap...

That was a Ford GT full beans run just to see how far it could get and to see how long the pit stop is . Probably thirstiest of all cars so don’t read into it too much!

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Pretty standard. I don't think there's ever been one with any more than 50% of all possible round results counting. 25-40% has been the norm across the five previous seasons and the various preludes, tests, and exhibitions.

Even the 30-race season (2020; it was originally four blocks of ten, but then it became three blocks of ten) only had eight results count, or less than 30% - equivalent to fewer than best three from ten.

I might have been unclear. It's the number of races that has me engaged, not the number that are counted.
My score is never going to get me to World Tour anyway so it's the immersion and the feeling of doing something over a long haul that I enjoy.

 

[Famine]

I might have been unclear. It's the number of races that has me engaged, not the number that are counted.

Well... pretty much every official season has had 10, bar the first two seasons of Sport and 7.

2018 - 4, 8, 10
2019 - 10, 10
2020 - 10, 10, 10
2021 - 10, 10
2022 - 6, 8

Of course the original plan for 2020 was four ten-race seasons, each culminating in a World Tour, but... "things" happened.

If PD is looking to pick up in 2023 where 2020 left off (and with 2022's two live events as test runs) I wouldn't be surprised to see two or more ten-race seasons this year.


That said, I'm not personally expecting that; I won't say what I am expecting, or when, because I don't want people running off to Facedit and TwitTube to say GTPLANET SAID THIS IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING. Again.

 

[mobilmasher]

Anyone know if the Daytona or Nord races will be int he dark at all?

Daytona's time setting is early morning, 0630.

 

[GTWolverine]

Can someone please make a drawing to show track limits at the Daytona bus stop chicane? The white lines don't seem to define the limits. But if I put one tire on grass, I seem to get track limit penalty. Thank you in advance!

It seems to me like if over half the width of your car is beyond the curbs, it's a penalty. i've definitely put 2 tires in the grass and didn't get a penalty as long as it was JUST the tires.