Gran Turismo World Series

[appu]

I was curious about how bad the stutters/frame-drops would be at the Nurburgring Endurance event, and I got the answer during today's Daytona event. It was an absolute stuttering mess in the first three laps when cars were close together, which I suspect caused multiple crashes. I myself had little idea where the other cars were since they were ping-ponging all over the place. I even had to brake early and go easy on the throttle to avoid spinning out, having little idea what was going on through the stutters.

The Nurburgring Endurance already stutters offline during WTC800 start to a borderline unplayable degree. It will be interesting to see how the event goes.

Some interesting things I noticed at the Daytona event:
1. At dawn, one driver completely went through the bus stop without braking or steering. Poor guy!
2. After he crashed out, I slowed down hoping the guy 3 seconds behind me would catch up and overtake me, so that I could use his slipstream. He got ahead of me but that disturbed his rhythm and he spun out. Same happened to one more guy as well, who I let ahead. At this point, I stopped letting more guys get ahead of me.

 

[afc5150]

Good to see you out there @mobilmasher


Yeah, it was a dismal affair out there for me. Spun out by the Castrol Toyota on lap 1, and then he attempted to take me out again later in the race after he made a mistake and I was trying to get by him. The red mist got the better of me, and I flat out punted him off the track for a 3 second penalty. All to no avail, as I still limped it home second to last. Of course, Mr. Castrol left the lobby immediately after the race, the coward.

Only positive of the whole thing was I didn't lose my S sportsmanship rating. Won't bother going again. Bring on the 'Ring!

 

[SPL170db]

That was a frustrating one. First GT1 lobby didn't go so well, so regrouped for the 2nd slot.

In the Supra and I managed to Q on pole for the first time in a long time with a 1:46.9. I had already decided to do the 1 stopper so just told myself just pull away clean and try to put in some clear laps to lessen the damage when pitting time comes. So of course I cut the first turn too close and smash the wall right away sending me from first to 10th I think. Spent the rest of that stint catching back up to 3rd heading into the pits at the end of 18 laps with 7 seconds lead ahead of 4th. Come out of the pits in 6th, get jostled around a bit and a penalty or 2 later I cross the finish in 8th or 9th I think it was.

Good times

 

[icycls]

penultimate lobby tonight in GT2. A slow driver in a slow car (Lancer), I used my tortoise and the hare strategy (I'm tortoise) because I know the Lancer isn't likely to be strong here. Got into a high rated lobby, mostly As and a few Bs (me). Not a single supra, mostly 911s and GT-Rs and I qualied P15 out of 15. Race goes about as I expect, got up to P9 at one point because of everyone's jackassery, but fell off to P11 where I finish.

With a CRB! (I'm about as proud of that as anything else tonight!). P11 in this race was worht more (91) than my P6 at interlagos, in fact, it was worth P1 in that lobby. Huh.

All in all, not bad. Heading east to the Nord, now.

 

[IORT_Fishtail]

Did the NA 18:00 GT2 lobby.
Got a 1:46.3 in practice while waiting for the race to start so I felt pretty on with what I needed to do.

Qualifying went okay. Was slowed a bit by the Supra that grabbed pole so I started p2 with a 1:47.09 with a bunch of 911s stacked pretty close gaps behind me.
Before T1 I already had one 911 pass inside while another sandwiched me from the outside.

Going into t2 I’m already p4 and just trying to keep cool and get through the first few turns without drama.

As I start sweep through t2 I get beat like a piñata completely to the barrier as far into the grass as possible.
I come out in p13 and knew I had my work cut out for me. I didn’t realize until watching the replay that the guy who hit me waited and that really helped my outlook on just how dirty vs accidentally hit me.

I had a couple people stick noses in and push me wide on the infield while I was pushing to make pace so it was a slog trying to make any time up.

Made it up to p4 by the time I needed to pit on L17 and once I was back out I was p9 with two cars just passing as I left the pit. I ran move up to p7 and would have needed one more lap to make it to p6 because I couldn’t get him reeled in quite in time.

One and done. I’m happy with p7 given the fight to come back. It would’ve been boring just turning fast laps at the front anyways. Right? 🙄

I knew it all had to play out just so to work and I was dealt the alternate outcome.


Updated:

Weirdest thing. The guy who took first was listed as B in this race and he is listed in GT1 as A+ in results as p43 in regional and everyone in my GT2 race was moved up a position on points!!!

No idea how that happens????
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤫🤔

 

[SnakeEyes427]

My day at Daytona post is updated with all the video links. Standings to come tomorrow. Now on to Nurburgring. That will take some practice.

*Standings updated now.

 

[GrmlMaster]

Did not have much hope for the McLaren at Daytona. Tried one race anyways.
Qualified P10 with a poor 1:48.7. Gave up some places in the first lap to avoid risk. Worked my way up from P13 to P5 with some relly nice racing finishing 0.1s behind 5th.
Did not have to save fuel and collected only 1 0.5s penalty at the chicane.

That was a suprisingly nice race for 73 points.

 

[Cerebral303]

I really enjoyed last nights race. I qualified 7th in my Renault RS.01 in what felt like a very short quali session and managed to slowly work my way up the field with a silly off around lap 5 at T1, I was in the inside and totally overshot the braking point, suddenly corner! And hello tyre wall. Felt like ages crawling backward in reverse. Despite this mostly consistent driving and the minor mistakes of others/battles between other cars ahead got me to 1st by lap 12 as the two drivers ahead of me at the time pitted. I opted not to pit and held onto 1st as long as I could. I had checked the regs before but began to doubt if this really was a no pit required race as more and more people pitted. I knew I had fuel but with an MR I was worried what would happen when the tyres got worn. In the end I took the chance and stayed out.

I finally had to cede 1st a few laps toward the end with a big off at a turn I had been worried about all race, the Rodriguez International Horseshoe, T3 right hand hairpin. I kept braking a bit earlier than I thought I needed to as the grip went down and only just made it a few times. This time I totally over shot it. Nerves and bad tyres and I was distracted with adjusting the fuel map. Excuses!

I retook the lead almost immediately as the leader did the same thing I did but on T5, the West Horseshoe. I regained 1st but I knew the game was up, as my car was on it's last legs and strangled for fuel as I tried to make the last percent get me through the final lap. I gained the first penalty of the race being sloppy through LeMans chicane trying to carry as much speed as possible, and on the long banked straight as I slipped into 3rd I lose power and coast to the finish line at 100mph and descending. In such a large open space it felt like 10mph round a never ending corner. I was happy to be 10sec ahead of 4th which was enough to cross the line just ahead of 4th and keep the podium position in a race I wasn't expecting to do well in.

I would have won if I hadn't gone off at T1 mid race and then again near the end, and with a little FM adjustment mid race or a little short shifting but hindsight is a wonder thing and I am happy with the result and felt totally satisfied after 41 minutes non stop action at Daytona!

 

[MetalApe]

Big thanks to those posting help on fuel strategies. I did my first World Series race last night,which also my first as a newly promoted B, and my first fuel saving race. I spent the first part of the race in fuel saving mode 3 or 4, with some lift and coast plus slipstreaming. Just trying to keep up with the pack at the back of field whilst saving my fuel for a fast finish.

With 6 Laps to go went for full power, was nice to be able to blow the opposition away and get upto 11th, just needed a bit more fuel saving over the last lap or so to bring it home. Without the help I picked up here I'd probably have run the race flat out and coasted to a halt with an empty tank two laps from home.

Also, a big thanks to 'Racer' in the Sabaton liviered car, looking at the replay it appears he did a revenge hit on my behalf. Two corners after I was punted off with a stupidly late brake, he did the same back to the driver who'd hit me.

 

[Talon16]

Was only available at 8:00P EST so I did one of these on the #2 account (thanks PD for the limited GT1 slots). It was alright. I do love this track otherwise I'd have skipped it as fuel savers are the least of interesting races. There was a Porsche that was harassing me for most of the race; he was probably happy to have my slip on a car that otherwise struggles some on the straights. He was less than one second behind for probably the first 13-15 laps, when he either made a couple mistakes or had to fuel save and dropped back to ~2.5-3.5 seconds back.

Used the LM II as I am signed with Ford. A combination of short shifting and fuel mapping saw her to the end with 0.1 laps fuel remaining. I had run a practice lobby of this race a few days ago and the fuel save strat was a whopping 1.7 seconds faster than push-pit-push.

I do love this track. As of last night my 1:45.42X was 71st on the global leaderboard in the LM II. Anything under the top 100 is something to be proud of for sure!

Bring on the Nord!!!!

 

[Roggers]

Not sure how to feel about this one. Clearly had good pace for my level but the top 3 were probably too fast anyway to grab a podium. Maybe 4th was the best I was ever going to do.

Totally understand how you feel, as you know those mistakes potentially cost you a better result. The way I look at that race you did, falling to P14 and then managing to recover to P4 is a great result. Just goes to show why rage quitting or get too down about an error or been punted off can still earn you a decent result. In my race I had 2 cars quit after 3 laps, which just doesn’t make sense in a 21 lap race.
Good result 👍🏻


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On a side note, it was good to see a verity of cars in the lobbies from all and also that Supra had some challenge from other manufactures.
Shame to see on some YT streams that some of the top split drivers using 2nd accounts and picking Toyota when there main account manufacture wasn’t good enough. Hopefully the BOP gets sorted before the official season which i think will be starting next month.

 

[Talon16]

Anyone have the top times/cars for the Nurb Endurance TTs yet?

 

[GTWolverine]

My favorite road course in the game, and a track that I've won 2 championship races at and never finished outside the Top 5 or scored below 250 points in a Championship race at? Should be a recipe for good results, right? Well...

Slot 1: Qualified 13th in a split with 4 Supras with a 1:47.2. Lost a couple spots back to P15 as I got held up with someone almost losing it at the exit of T1. Made a few of those spots back as a few people made mistakes or just completely died. Ended up with @Geauxgreddy behind me for a few laps giving me a bump-draft, and I'm not entirely sure he was aware of just how slow the Corvette was, but I was gonna use all the help I could get! Eventually he got around me and easily walked away, and ultimately I finished P10 for 219 points - by far my lowest score ever at Daytona Road Course, which I definitely wasn't satisfied with.

Slot 2: Had the lap of my life and somehow qualified P6, ahead of 2 of the 6(!) Supras in the race that only had a total of 13 cars...finished P9 after getting 4 track limits penalties at the chicane (the sunrise made it hard to differentiate between the track, curbs, and grass and messed up my turn in, which messed up the rest of the chicane for me)... The 220 points would've been my worst ever score at Daytona RC...if it wasn't for the previous slot.

Slot 3: Qualified 9th this time in a race with 5 Supras and 2 Pug VGTs, as well as a Ford GT. The Ford, 4 of the 5 Supras, and both Pugs qualified ahead of me. I grabbed P8 immediately from the Pug directly in front of me when he had a slow getaway at the start, then took 7th place from the other Pug the following lap in T1. That was the last I saw of the Peugeots. I did lose a spot back to P8 when a faster Lambo took the spot. I spent most of the race in a 3-way battle with 2 Supras for P6 (including the pole-sitter). Of course they easily kept ahead, but once they started having to save fuel, I was easily able to keep up. We each took turns at the front of our little group, gradually pulling away from the cars behind, but losing ground to those in front. The battle for P6 became P5 on Lap 19 when the Lambo that passed me earlier died at the chicane, then P4 when the GT that was way ahead ran out of fuel. I'd gotten in between both Supras and was hoping to have a good chicane to try to take 4th place from the Supra in front, but dirty air got me and I couldn't carry speed at the exit like I wanted, so I had to settle for P5 as the Corvette meat in a Supra sandwich, which was good for 255 points, so I finally got a Top 5 from the night, but this would still be my lowest ever performance at Daytona RC...if it wasn't for the first 2 slots.

On a related note, so far I'm the only Chevy driver in the Americas region to score over 200 points in a round, and the only A+ Chevy driver in the region as well...

 

[icycls]

Anyone have the top times/cars for the Nurb Endurance TTs yet?

lordy they seem fast to me, 7:40ish IIRC, most using the high top end cars, supra etc. I'm counting on finesse and clean racing will be a factor on race day, as I don't think I will get the Lancer under 8:00.

 

[appu]

lordy they seem fast to me, 7:40ish IIRC

I just completed two laps at the Nurb Endurance in my favorite Italia but on Hards. For reference, I am a mid-B/S driver.

The first lap took 8:40, while the second lap took 8:28.

Remembering all the corners is definitely impossible for me. Additionally, I don't have enough time to learn them before Saturday. What's worse, the brake assist areas are all either incorrect or are for aliens. They start too late and end at the apex, sometimes even beyond it! Despite this, it's still easy to get a general idea of when to brake before the brake area starts, so the assist is still hugely beneficial.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to this event. I'm expecting qualifying laps to be utter chaos. Instead of doing free practice, I'm thinking of doing an offline race as practice because, let's admit it, qualifying will most likely involve racing other cars instead of having solo laps. Gonna be one helluva fun Saturday!

 

[icycls]

I just completed two laps at the Nurb Endurance in my favorite Italia but on Hards. For reference, I am a mid-B/S driver.

The first lap took 8:40, while the second lap took 8:28.

Remembering all the corners is definitely impossible for me. Additionally, I don't have enough time to learn them before Saturday. What's worse, the brake assist areas are all either incorrect or are for aliens. They start too late and end at the apex, sometimes even beyond it! Despite this, it's still easy to get a general idea of when to brake before the brake area starts, so the assist is still hugely beneficial.

Honestly, I'm looking forward to this event. I'm expecting qualifying laps to be utter chaos. Instead of doing free practice, I'm thinking of doing an offline race as practice because, let's admit it, qualifying will most likely involve racing other cars instead of having clean laps. Gonna be one helluva fun Saturday!

yeah, learning the track here is key; this race will separate those who practiced from the others.

I've also noticed the brake areas are mostly too late, another reason to practice to get your own comfort with all those corners. And don't hit 'retry' after going off - you'll never learn the second half! (my experience occasionaly)

 

[GrmlMaster]

What do the Pros think for strategy?

Did some testing, and found that with fairly much fuelsaving I could manage 3 laps in the McLaren.
So a 1-stop would be possible.

Unfortunately I could not say what the timeloss of fuelsaving is vs pitstop as my laptimes are all over the place.

Tire-degradation seems to be no issue.

PS: Is anything known about the weather settings?


EDIT: Forget everything I wrote, I switched Fuel- and Tire-rate
So also no stategy.

 

[Talon16]

So yea, Supra and all that. After doing about four laps in each car (which doesn't sound like a lot but it is here!) my Supra time is almost three seconds faster than the LM II!

ANd those aliens in the 39s?! Like, there is a chunk of time to find for me on both accounts, but not 13 seconds! Of course, Nord being Nord it's quite difficult to put a full lap together so it's often the best lap is the least-worst lap.

More practice to be had.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Daytona was pretty dire. I am in with a shot of winning the GT2 manufacturers division in Oceania but I just didn't have it in me to run more than one slot of 40 minutes fuel saving.

 

[Roggers]

Anyone in the Porsche for manus? If so how did you find driving the nords?
Im finding the car is really unstable over some sections, they is no grip on either tyre compounds and the brakes just not stopping the car. I will admit most will be down to me going in too hot into the corners as i relearn the track, but I just don’t have any confidence in the car.
I jumped into the AMG, (as I’ve done a lot of laps in that car round the nords) and it’s way more stable and I finding it easier to stay on track.
Might skip this round…5 laps of struggle doesn’t sound great to me, and I’m struggling to get enough practice in for tomorrow.

 

[MetalApe]

What information do we have on the Nurburgring race now? I can't see any details in the game, do we need to wait until it goes live to find the exact rules for the race?

 

[Roggers]

What information do we have on the Nurburgring race now? I can't see any details in the game, do we need to wait until it goes live to find the exact rules for the race?

Round 3: 22 April 2023
　- Car Used: Garage Car
　- Category: Gr.3
　- BoP/Tuning Prohibited: On (High-speed)
　- Car Settings: Partially Allowed [Brake Balance]
　- Track: Nurburgring Endurance
　- Useable Tyre & Types: Racing: Hard / Racing: Medium
　- Required Tyre Type Change: Racing: Hard / Racing: Medium
　- Minimum No. of Pit Stops: None
　- Qualifying Time: 13 Minutes
　- Fuel Consumption Rate (Qualifier): Off | Tyre Wear Rate (Qualifier): 4x [GT1 League] / None [GT2 & GT3 Leagues]
　- No. of Laps: 5
　- Fuel Consumption Rate (Final): 2x | Tyre Wear Rate (Final): 4x

All GTWS and any other GT7 news can be found here https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/news/

 

[Fezzik]

What do the Pros think for strategy?

Did some testing, and found that with fairly much fuelsaving I could manage 3 laps in the McLaren.
So a 1-stop would be possible.

Unfortunately I could not say what the timeloss of fuelsaving is vs pitstop as my laptimes are all over the place.

Tire-degradation seems to be no issue.

PS: Is anything known about the weather settings?


EDIT: Forget everything I wrote, I switched Fuel- and Tire-rate
So also no stategy.

A 1-stop is not just possible, it's mandatory. You have to use both the medium and hard compounds.

The strategy is seeing how much you gamble on the mediums lasting, don't want to burn them out in the middle of an 8 minute lap.

 

[SnakeEyes427]

Granted, I have yet to turn a lap for this coming race however, a smooth drive is going to be a most. Fast laps are great on a time chart but you will burn up the rubber. And that's not to say anything about fuel. *"Speed only counts if you can make the next turn." * Tossing the car at every turn or mashing the pedals are not rewarded in lap times in race as long as 5 laps at Nurburgring.

*My saying I came up with in the GT5 days. If you use it, just give me credit. Like in other quotes would be.
Thanks 😊

 

[KPL_HeartStop]

Anyone in the Porsche for manus? If so how did you find driving the nords?
Im finding the car is really unstable over some sections, they is no grip on either tyre compounds and the brakes just not stopping the car. I will admit most will be down to me going in too hot into the corners as i relearn the track, but I just don’t have any confidence in the car.
I jumped into the AMG, (as I’ve done a lot of laps in that car round the nords) and it’s way more stable and I finding it easier to stay on track.
Might skip this round…5 laps of struggle doesn’t sound great to me, and I’m struggling to get enough practice in for tomorrow.

Personal driving style I think. I'm exactly the opposite - great in the Porsche (for me anyway) and so-so in most of the FR cars.

 

[gthelmi2398]

I did a test race in a lobby yesterday. I drive the BMW M6 Endurance. Fuel was no problem as I drove on Döttinger Höhe with fuel Setting 2 after shifting in 6th gear.
Race pace was around 8:04, XXX.

Did 4 laps on Medium, the last one on hard tyres, in lobby settings it became sunset in fifth lap, so the hard tyre was very dificult to handle in much turns on the Nordschleife. Hope that we'll race tomorrow 5 laps in the afternoon. Then it should be a better hatd tyre.

I think there won't be any probability for rain as we have to drive Hard and Medium tyre.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I did a test race in a lobby yesterday. I drive the BMW M6 Endurance. Fuel was no problem as I drove on Döttinger Höhe with fuel Setting 2 after shifting in 6th gear.
Race pace was around 8:04, XXX.

Did 4 laps on Medium, the last one on hard tyres, in lobby settings it became sunset in fifth lap, so the hard tyre was very dificult to handle in much turns on the Nordschleife. Hope that we'll race tomorrow 5 laps in the afternoon. Then it should be a better hatd tyre.

I think there won't be any probability for rain as we have to drive Hard and Medium tyre.

You get more grip as the track cools down.

 

[MetalApe]

What's worse, the brake assist areas are all either incorrect or are for aliens. They start too late and end at the apex, sometimes even beyond it! Despite this, it's still easy to get a general idea of when to brake before the brake area starts, so the assist is still hugely beneficial.

Just tried it, I see what you mean, I can see a lot of accidental rear ending as every one will have different ideas where the braking points are. I think I want to qualify last and then drive past the wreckage of the first few corner crashes

 

[djolliea]

Well, this is going to be interesting. Ran a couple practice laps in the McLaren and managed a 7:52.254. I feel I'm lacking torque here against the top Supra ghost.

 

[jimihemmy]

Anyone in the Porsche for manus? If so how did you find driving the nords?
Im finding the car is really unstable over some sections, they is no grip on either tyre compounds and the brakes just not stopping the car. I will admit most will be down to me going in too hot into the corners as i relearn the track, but I just don’t have any confidence in the car.
I jumped into the AMG, (as I’ve done a lot of laps in that car round the nords) and it’s way more stable and I finding it easier to stay on track.
Might skip this round…5 laps of struggle doesn’t sound great to me, and I’m struggling to get enough practice in for tomorrow.

I did a few practice laps and had the opposite experience. Granted, I love the Ring and feel I have a pretty strong understanding of it and the Porsche felt stable and stuck to the tarmac for me. Maybe I am just used to driving the Ring....

I am going 1H/4M. Hopefully the mediums will be great by sunset.

Good luck everyone!