Great News!!! GT4 US release might be fixed!

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Me and my friends play LAN GT4 (also GT3 i-link)

Here are a few things that I find important which I hope will be fixed in future releases :

1. To be able to use garage cars in LAN mode
2. The LAN mode in GT4 is extremely buggy, please refer to the LAN issues thread :
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54117&page=1&pp=20
The choice to use i-link instead of LAN would be nice.
3. Series races (score keeping) in LAN mode + grid management in the beginning of race.
4. The ability to use more cars in LAN mode (already discussed in above thread link). Currently limiting to 30 choices to be transferred to LAN mode with its inconveniences.

In another thread, https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=54753
Daddybird said : "that the mileage counter doesnt work when you drive a championship in a-spec mode. So if you start a new champ with a car at 0kms, at the end it still has 0kms, in your progress you also cant see your true kms."

Hyde : Hopefully you can pass these infos to your friend at SCEA.

Thanks
 
1- You can`t change the 2 player spilit sreen to vertical ( there is only horizental )
2- If they can change replay to one screen ( 2p ) insted of 2 screen
 
Im sure im being stupid here....but what is the actual US release date? could somebody do me the favor of pointing me towards some sort of official report or webpage or anything really.
 
sombau
Im sure im being stupid here....but what is the actual US release date? could somebody do me the favor of pointing me towards some sort of official report or webpage or anything really.

never mind i found the answer to my own question...now if i can just hold my excitement for the next two weeks
 
sombau
Im sure im being stupid here....but what is the actual US release date? could somebody do me the favor of pointing me towards some sort of official report or webpage or anything really.
Its on the 22nd of February just look on any game site or any forum thread here
 
finally got to talk to my friend, he's been at work 9-9 everyday for the past week

since he is incharge in the online department, all he did was tested Lan play.
he said the whole SCEA office is pissed and didnt see any reason of testing the game since its already being produce by the time they actually receive it. if there are any errors or problems, its not gonna be fixed on the first release. they are gonna release a newer build in the future. probably under "The Best"

what my friend notice when testing
- Garage cars were not present in arcade mode on the US version
- Car errors will not be fixed. He brought up all the bugs we've found and PD answered with some bull**** saying "It's the design" so the Cooper S is not getting the 6th gear
- Lan play is poorly set up
- Didnt tell me anything about new cars, but then he wont know since he never played the JP version

on a side note, his team is currently testing PSP's online capabilities....
he said that the first gen PSP hardware is causing quite a bit of problem. and they are fixing the design internally atm.
and he also noted that they have received the 2nd gen PStwo, internally stated as the L-Chassis. (first gen PStwo were the K-Chassis) , dont ask me about the difference
he recommended that to wait for the 2nd gen PSP, should be out a few months after the launch

i also asked him about PS3
he said no known prototypes have been sent to the US. and have no idea whats going on in Japan

lets just hope the US version is not a directly translated version and actually is the PAL release
 
Hyde
finally got to talk to my friend, he's been at work 9-9 everyday for the past week

since he is incharge in the online department, all he did was tested Lan play.
he said the whole SCEA office is pissed and didnt see any reason of testing the game since its already being produce by the time they actually receive it. if there are any errors or problems, its not gonna be fixed on the first release. they are gonna release a newer build in the future. probably under "The Best"

what my friend notice when testing
- Garage cars were not present in arcade mode on the US version
- Car errors will not be fixed. He brought up all the bugs we've found and PD answered with some bull**** saying "It's the design" so the Cooper S is not getting the 6th gear
- Lan play is poorly set up
- Didnt tell me anything about new cars, but then he wont know since he never played the JP version

on a side note, his team is currently testing PSP's online capabilities....
he said that the first gen PSP hardware is causing quite a bit of problem. and they are fixing the design internally atm.
and he also noted that they have received the 2nd gen PStwo, internally stated as the L-Chassis. (first gen PStwo were the K-Chassis) , dont ask me about the difference
he recommended that to wait for the 2nd gen PSP, should be out a few months after the launch

i also asked him about PS3
he said no known prototypes have been sent to the US. and have no idea whats going on in Japan

lets just hope the US version is not a directly translated version and actually is the PAL release

Garage Cars: Hell NO:banghead:
Lan Play: Sucks big Time:banghead:
Car Errors: Their's no error its supposed to be AWD:banghead:
PSP for US: Crap wait for the updated version:banghead:
Might as well wait for PAL if any of these are true.:banghead:
 
Hyde, you just completely ruined the remainder of my day. :irked:

Is this new PS2 just the new slim model that came out, or is there going to be an additional modification to that?
 
Wow they are just completely worthless then. Take out garage cars in arcade mode....that is pure genius. To be honest I lost the excitement in this game about a month ago. Now I just really don't even care. I look foward more to Devil May Cry 3 than Gran Turismo 4.
 
my friend also commented that GT4 looks incomplete, the arcade mode is definatly rushed in the end.

i seriously wont be suprise if they are releasing an updated version later this year. and sell it at full price and not just "the best", just to make more money, then a online version with just arcade mode.


also, sony is gonna bring out something like xb live in the future, but myfriend said there are so much problems with it that they are still not launching it. highly doubt its gonna be implemented with PS2.
 
Hyde
my friend also commented that GT4 looks incomplete, the arcade mode is definatly rushed in the end.

i seriously wont be suprise if they are releasing an updated version later this year. and sell it at full price and not just "the best", just to make more money, then a online version with just arcade mode.


also, sony is gonna bring out something like xb live in the future, but myfriend said there are so much problems with it that they are still not launching it. highly doubt its gonna be implemented with PS2.
This guy's pretty funny. First he says his friend is just a beta LAN tester for ONE game that isnt even online, then he says his friend spilled the beans over Sony's business plan for the next 3 years. I'm sorry Hyde, you're full of ****. It's not that I don't want to accept GT4 will be buggy. I just think you're just making this **** up.
 
wolf8218
This guy's pretty funny. First he says his friend is just a beta LAN tester for ONE game that isnt even online, then he says his friend spilled the beans over Sony's business plan for the next 3 years. I'm sorry Hyde, you're full of ****. It's not that I don't want to accept GT4 will be buggy. I just think you're just making this **** up.

I think youre on to something wolf..........ever since this thread was created i knew this was all bs. Last i heard the garage cars were in arcade mode. I have the Chinese ver of GT4 and Arcade mode looks pretty finished and polished to me. Actually it looks better than the one in GT3. Alot more organized and easier to navigate. GT4 in general seems amazingly well put together. The only thing i can see sofar thats missing (from the chinese version atleast) is Garage cars in arcade mode and to some degree Online mode (i know its coming later but it should be included now). Plus all this information being leaked is VERY unlikely. your friend must be very comfortable about leaking vital information (especially about faults or products) about a Media GIANT like sony.........
 
Homer_SS
I think youre on to something wolf..........ever since this thread was created i knew this was all bs. Last i heard the garage cars were in arcade mode. I have the Chinese ver of GT4 and Arcade mode looks pretty finished and polished to me. Actually it looks better than the one in GT3. Alot more organized and easier to navigate. GT4 in general seems amazingly well put together. The only thing i can see sofar thats missing (from the chinese version atleast) is Garage cars in arcade mode and to some degree Online mode (i know its coming later but it should be included now). Plus all this information being leaked is VERY unlikely. your friend must be very comfortable about leaking vital information (especially about faults or products) about a Media GIANT like sony.........
Exactly. Has his friend ever heard of an NDA?
 
Well, I was always skeptical on the validity of information and truthfulness of this thread.... which is why I haven't been watching it. I must say, though, that just because you think it's BS, doesn't mean you have to spam the fact every two posts. One thing is that if all this IS true, there's one big "I told you so" or whatever in store, and people won't like that. If this is BS, who knows what will happen when the time comes, that's for the mods to decide I think. If you don't believe it, don't keep reading on..... people who want to believe it will, and people who don't won't. No need to try and change opinions, yes? Plus, a lot of the things Hyde has said can have different interperetations and maybe different backgroun information. Like the comment his friend made on arcade mode being incomplete. Well, it's incomplete in relativity to other GT4 games in the fact that you can't select cars from your garage. Perhaps his friend didn't know the real reasoning behind this, and so he figured it was rushed.
 
Homer_SS
I think youre on to something wolf..........ever since this thread was created i knew this was all bs. Last i heard the garage cars were in arcade mode. I have the Chinese ver of GT4 and Arcade mode looks pretty finished and polished to me. Actually it looks better than the one in GT3. Alot more organized and easier to navigate. GT4 in general seems amazingly well put together. The only thing i can see sofar thats missing (from the chinese version atleast) is Garage cars in arcade mode and to some degree Online mode (i know its coming later but it should be included now). Plus all this information being leaked is VERY unlikely. your friend must be very comfortable about leaking vital information (especially about faults or products) about a Media GIANT like sony.........

you really think the arcade mode is complete??? it only look nice, its far from complete.
the arcade mode is completely useless other then lan play and 2p.

even GT-C it self was better then the arcade mode.

faults in PSP isnt really vital information... i dunno if u have been living under a rock or something, but the PSP has already been release in Japan, and its already known fact that the PSP hardware have problems. and he is just telling me that the american model is still the first gen PSP

btw, he works in the Online department. anything that need to use the network adapter will go thru them for testing.
 
**registers his support for hyde**


you might as well not respond to people who say they don't believe you - you aren't going to change their mind unless you get a picture of KY tongue kissing you, and even then someone will say it was photoshopped.
 
Hyde
you really think the arcade mode is complete??? it only look nice, its far from complete.
the arcade mode is completely useless other then lan play and 2p.

even GT-C it self was better then the arcade mode.

faults in PSP isnt really vital information... i dunno if u have been living under a rock or something, but the PSP has already been release in Japan, and its already known fact that the PSP hardware have problems. and he is just telling me that the american model is still the first gen PSP

btw, he works in the Online department. anything that need to use the network adapter will go thru them for testing.

Could you please link me to a site listing the PSP's problems? Anything big enough to make somebody cancel a preorder and buy a DS instead? XD

No garage in GT4 was a crappy move. Maybe you can freerun any track in simulation mode?
 
intelectualism
Could you please link me to a site listing the PSP's problems? Anything big enough to make somebody cancel a preorder and buy a DS instead? XD

No garage in GT4 was a crappy move. Maybe you can freerun any track in simulation mode?

2 Things. Don't take Hydes word as gold, I really doubt he's truthful. Luck of the draw would be the logical conclusion.

Also we don't even know if garage cars are CONFIRMED in the PAL version, so far we have a single members word on it, however he is much more reliable than Hyde.

Second, PSP has one major hardware bug that seriously bothers me. The Square button. It's not directly over the sensor, because the screen is too large, so after a lot of play (it's already been reported in about 4000 japanese units) the Square button begins to fail, stick, and have many problems. This I don't like. And the fact that the discs fall out from certain angles.
 
My friend and I have been having some discussions on the future of Sony Playstation. We are of the thinking that Sony plans on crushing XBOX with free online play, and they won't start charging for it until they decide that XBOX is here to stay (or more acurately XBOX 2). I think that soon specific games companies, say EA Sports, will start charging to use their games online if Sony doesn't take the initiative and do it themselves. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
tha_con
2 Things. Don't take Hydes word as gold, I really doubt he's truthful. Luck of the draw would be the logical conclusion.

Also we don't even know if garage cars are CONFIRMED in the PAL version, so far we have a single members word on it, however he is much more reliable than Hyde.

Second, PSP has one major hardware bug that seriously bothers me. The Square button. It's not directly over the sensor, because the screen is too large, so after a lot of play (it's already been reported in about 4000 japanese units) the Square button begins to fail, stick, and have many problems. This I don't like. And the fact that the discs fall out from certain angles.
Hyde is often only busy *****ing about Gran Turismo 4, i don't know why the hell he even got the game, so don't listen to much to his negative talks.
 
Well, all i have to say is that ive done for the last few years of my life is eat, slept, and breathed Gran Turismo. It would be awfully nice to have a faith-affirming 100% perfect GT4....but short of nuclear armageddon, ill end up buying it anyway.
 
sombau
Well, all i have to say is that ive done for the last few years of my life is eat, slept, and breathed Gran Turismo. It would be awfully nice to have a faith-affirming 100% perfect GT4....but short of nuclear armageddon, ill end up buying it anyway.
No game ver will be as good as real life, they can never implent the adrealine and fear factor, and g forces, alot of things can't be 100% realistic, and there will always be faults, it won't ever be 100% perfect, and people don't wanna make them, cause then people don't want to buy games ever again, cause they alreadu have the perfect game.
 
Hyde
finally got to talk to my friend, he's been at work 9-9 everyday for the past week

since he is incharge in the online department, all he did was tested Lan play.
he said the whole SCEA office is pissed and didnt see any reason of testing the game since its already being produce by the time they actually receive it. if there are any errors or problems, its not gonna be fixed on the first release. they are gonna release a newer build in the future. probably under "The Best"

what my friend notice when testing
- Garage cars were not present in arcade mode on the US version
- Car errors will not be fixed. He brought up all the bugs we've found and PD answered with some bull**** saying "It's the design" so the Cooper S is not getting the 6th gear
- Lan play is poorly set up
- Didnt tell me anything about new cars, but then he wont know since he never played the JP version

on a side note, his team is currently testing PSP's online capabilities....
he said that the first gen PSP hardware is causing quite a bit of problem. and they are fixing the design internally atm.
and he also noted that they have received the 2nd gen PStwo, internally stated as the L-Chassis. (first gen PStwo were the K-Chassis) , dont ask me about the difference
he recommended that to wait for the 2nd gen PSP, should be out a few months after the launch

i also asked him about PS3
he said no known prototypes have been sent to the US. and have no idea whats going on in Japan

lets just hope the US version is not a directly translated version and actually is the PAL release

I tried to stay away from replying to this thread until I read this. I can't see how this guy even got one person to believe him. He started this thread about how "his friend" may be instrumental in fixing problems with GT4. Then umpteen pages later he says "Nope. Nothing's gonna change." I've heard of people who lie just to get attention, but it's still hard for me to believe that people like this actually exist. Here's proof I guess.
 
Darts
No game ver will be as good as real life, they can never implent the adrealine and fear factor, and g forces, alot of things can't be 100% realistic, and there will always be faults, it won't ever be 100% perfect, and people don't wanna make them, cause then people don't want to buy games ever again, cause they alreadu have the perfect game.

ok, tumbesd reply of the day, by far.
getting physics right won't ever make a game "perfect", it will just make it an acurate sim, nothing more.
 
Getting kind of closer to topic here, does anyone know anything about the European release date? I couldn't find the thread on the European version so I posted here. I have received an e-mail from where I've ordered the game from saying the release date has been pushed back to March 11th. Any other news?

Thanks in advance. :cheers:
 
Locost7Rules
My friend and I have been having some discussions on the future of Sony Playstation. We are of the thinking that Sony plans on crushing XBOX with free online play, and they won't start charging for it until they decide that XBOX is here to stay (or more acurately XBOX 2). I think that soon specific games companies, say EA Sports, will start charging to use their games online if Sony doesn't take the initiative and do it themselves. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Man, what nonsense are you talking about? see, this is why people get ripped off, because they are uninformed, there's NO REASON why a game company should EVER charge you for online play, that's like getting charged extra for playing with a second controler in your PS2, would you like that? well, since you don't mind getting charged for online, i'm guessing you wouldn't mind that either, here's some facts:
all of those madden games, racing games, etc. are peer to peer, the company has nothing to do with the connection itself after they hooked players up, that's the ONLY server they have to run, and it costs them next to nothing to set those up, so why the hell would you get charged AGAIN, you allready PAID for your game!

MMORPGS charge you because they keep your data on the game, and the game is 100% dependent on the server, because of it.. they charge you, and guess what? it costs them pennies on the dollar to keep those servers up too, so anyone who is "gladly paying" 15 bucks a month for WoW is gladly getting ripped off, but hey, at least they are actually doing a little work there (in peer to peer games they have to do nothing.), even then it's still a rip off, big time.
in the old days people didn't ever have to get charged for playing THEIR game with THEIR friends, and why would they? they allready bought the damn thing, all people would do is load the game from the server (PC games) and evryone would run from there, warcrat 2 was like this, by the time starcraft came out, blizzard started realizing there was money to be made by not allowing people to play their game with their friends, so they limited the ammount of copies that could be installed on your friends computer for LAN play... (3 per game.. BS.)
then warcraft 3 came out and that option evaporated, but it was ok since nobody played it on LAN anymore and just via the internet, the internet is just a connection.. just like LAN play, why the HELL would you get charged for using it?

the Sony online strategy is $hit, nothing more. why? because it took them 3 years after the release of the PS2 to even start considering one (while sega with the dreamcast had one right of the bat), it took MS 1 year to bring out a service that would be very complete. (more on this later...)

Ok, so Sony either has no clue how to attack this market or doesn't have the resoucres (incredible, such a big company and they can't provide a decent service, all they can do is build hardware...)

Ok, so MS came out with the Xbox live... MS realized they couldn't rely on game companies to set up something as simple as a chat server for each of their games that would also work to find players and hook them up for peer to peer play, this is a very simple thing to do... and yet many companies didn't have a clue how to do this. (taking a look at sony and their games helped. a bit.. only a handful of companies put online support.)

so what did MS do? simple... they made a mIRC like server for ALL games that would also work as an "operator" (connecting the different players for their games.) EXTREMLEY simple, and CHEAP all they had to do is.. well, DO IT, unlike Sony that just sat there...
So, evrything looks great for Xbox live thus far.. but we're forgetting one thing, the games are still peer to peer, so MS isn't really doing much, all they are doing is setting up servers like they would for their AIM service. (which of course is free)
so why are they charging us for online play? they shouldn't and here's why:

Console makers charge royalties to their third party developers, not just a little money, quite a bit of money for having the privilege to publish games on their plataform, so guess what? the xbox live price should be included right there, customers shouldn't be charged for the xbox live service because game publishers are allready paying for it for each copy they sell. And the Customer is allready paying his share when.. well, the pay 50 - 70 bucks for the god damn game, that oughta be enough to cover the price of any mIRC like cheapo server.

Now.. here's what sony should do if they are to stand a chance in the US market in the next generation wars, they should pretty much make a clone service to xbox live (with different features to avoid patent issues which i'm sure exist.). but instead of charging the customer AGAIN after they pay for their game, they should just enable online right of the bat... just like in current games, but instead of having each game company set their "meet" server up they should set them up theemselves.

Sony had 5 years to come up with an online strategy, the reply they would give when asked about online support would be "online gaming is a niche, people are not ready for it.. we want to inovate online gaming, not just enable it, that won't work"

yep, that's the kinda BS you would hear from Sony and Nintendo, no market for it? this is at a time when PC games had 200,000 simultanous users on popular games (for EACH game.). no market for it? the demand was clearly there, they just wouldn't provide, which is a whole different story.

Xbox live owners seem proud to pay for their service. (at least it's not THAT expensive, but MS will raise prices.. and a lot sooner than you think.)
but i can't wait to see their face when they get asked to pay AGAIN for any MMORPG that comes out for it, the fact is... xbox live should be "FREE" (wouldn't be free... because you would STILL need to pay for the game, and afterall... that's all you should ever be charged for playing with your friends, because they don't even pay for your ISP, so the connection is YOURS not theirs!)
 
superb16
I tried to stay away from replying to this thread until I read this. I can't see how this guy even got one person to believe him. He started this thread about how "his friend" may be instrumental in fixing problems with GT4. Then umpteen pages later he says "Nope. Nothing's gonna change." I've heard of people who lie just to get attention, but it's still hard for me to believe that people like this actually exist. Here's proof I guess.
I agree. I wouldnt mind to see him earn himself a nice ban. :yuck:
 
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