GT 6 pre-orders very low

[ironman44321]

It's 120,000-odd off of GT5's USA number the week before it's release, according to the source everybody likes to use:
http://www.vgchartz.com/preorders/40503/USA/

So yes, it is quite low compared to GT5, and if one wants to take that as representative of what the sales will end up being, that would just be guessing. It's not exactly a big leap, however; GT's 2 and 4 both sold less than their previous installments on the same systems. I don't see the downward trend changing, quite honestly.

That chart you linked to is from 1 week before the GT5 launch where the newest chart is from 2 weeks before the GT6 launch. It's actually just under 100k pre-orders away from GT5. But, It's important to note that most games add more pre-orders 1 week before launch than they do 2 weeks before launch. So, If GT6 adds 80 or 90K pre-orders than the pre-orders would be very close. Even if it only adds 50k or so more pre-orders that puts it pretty close to what GT5 had.

You also don't seem to understand the argument being made here. The OP talks about pre-orders being "scary low" or "very low" and that was true when the thread was made, but it isn't anymore. Actually, considering it's a game coming out on a system that's already been replaced. Those are pretty impressive numbers.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I think an important factor is also that PD was quite incommunicative in case of GT6 for a fairly long time, at least compared to GT5.

Many people surely were or probably still are too unsure about what's really going to happen or what they're going to get with GT6.

PD learned to shut its mouth this time around, even though it generally never opens lol!

They heavily marketed GT5 as a "revolution in racing", when in reality, it a was a torturous revolution of my stomach's juices and fluids that erupted out of my mouth, spilling onto my DS3 and PS3. They realized it's time to be humble. It's time to legitimately earn some respect back and to not over- glorify a thing that is merely a game.

 

[ron86]

...They heavily marketed GT5 as a "revolution in racing", when in reality, it a was a torturous revolution of my stomach's juices and fluids that erupted out of my mouth, spilling onto my DS3 and PS3. They realized it's time to be humble. It's time to legitimately earn some respect back and to not over- glorify a thing that is merely a game.

Oh my, "merely a game"... for me GT5 was the greatest game ever, with over 1000 cars, great physics, great graphics and and and.. I played GT5 regulary for over 2 1/2 years, no other game make me do that!

How can anyone call GT5 "merely a game"?! If you compare it to other racing games you will see that GT5 has tons more great things than every other racing game!!

 

[Zlork]

On Amazon Japan, GT6 hasn't left top 10 since TGS 13.
Reminder : in the meantime there was Monster Hunter and Pokemon on 3DS.

Today GT6 is 2nd. I hope that GT6 will receive much success, PoDi well deserved ! They corrected several defaults, starting with communication.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

On Amazon Japan, GT6 hasn't left top 10 since TGS 13.
Reminder : in the meantime there was Monster Hunter and Pokemon on 3DS.

Today GT6 is 2nd. I hope that GT6 will receive much success, PoDi well deserved ! They corrected several defaults, starting with communication.

Got my pokemon just waiting for the cloud trading system to open up

However, it's Japan, and the numbers they rack up there are great for the vicinity but overall are nothing compared to what they get in other regions.

 

[nickg07]

What does that have to do with GT's pre-order/sale history?

That other franchise are clearing over 2 mill pre orders.. Afterall everything's relative. and that relatively pre orders are weak compared to the level of competition that GT6 is launching itself at the same time as.

 

[yewles1]

That other franchise are clearing over 2 mill pre orders.. Afterall everything's relative. and that relatively pre orders are weak compared to the level of competition that GT6 is launching itself at the same time as.

But GT's never had those kind of pre-order numbers, nor have they had sale numbers averaging as high as GT3's peak.

 

[steve30x]

Oh my, "merely a game"... for me GT5 was the greatest game ever, with over 1000 cars, great physics, great graphics and and and.. I played GT5 regulary for over 2 1/2 years, no other game make me do that!

How can anyone call GT5 "merely a game"?! If you compare it to other racing games you will see that GT5 has tons more great things than every other racing game!!

A lot of people on here are not happy with GT5. No matter how good GT games will be you will always get the people that will never be happy.

 

[Shirrako]

GT6 will have around 250k-350k pre-orders by the time it comes out, it may beat GT5 (unlikely) but reason why it may beat GT5 is because it has better pre-order bonuses and more people own PS3s now than they did in 2009-2010, i expect GT6 to reach 260k-280k by next week, and that's USA only, Europe is the biggest market for GT games, i expect around a million pre-orders by december worldwide, if the game gets reviewed and gets good scores, the sales will be even better.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Got my pokemon just waiting for the cloud trading system to open up

GT6 will have around 250k-350k pre-orders by the time it comes out, it may beat GT5 (unlikely) but reason why it may beat GT5 is because it has better pre-order bonuses and more people own PS3s now than they did in 2009-2010, i expect GT6 to reach 260k-280k by next week, and that's USA only, Europe is the biggest market for GT games, i expect around a million pre-orders by december worldwide, if the game gets reviewed and gets good scores, the sales will be even better.

You mean in a week? Considering the number or bought PS4s in NA so far...I doubt sold pre-orders will happen here or anywhere else. People will wait, buy it first day, or get bored of the PS4 and go back to the PS3 if they haven't already pre-ordered.

 

[DingoDile]

GT6 pre-orders are very very good for many reasons:
1. Its the second GT for PS3. GT5 was one of the most anticipated PS3 games and more important, it was the first (real) PS3 GT. If we compare GTs sales in last generations, GT1 & GT3 (first GTs in each gen) have been sold more than GT2& GT4.
2. We have next gen consoles. next gen racings & graphics...
3. GT5 was a great game, but it had lots of problems and some people wont get GT6 before reading reviews.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

GT6 pre-orders are very very good for many reasons:
1. Its the second GT for PS3. GT5 was one of the most anticipated PS3 games and more important, it was the first (real) PS3 GT. If we compare GTs sales in last generations, GT1 & GT3 (first GTs in each gen) have been sold more than GT2& GT4.

Do you have any numbers to show that prove this, the same was asked of the people who started this thread and they weren't really able too.

1. We have next gen consoles. next gen racings & graphics...

What?

2. GT5 was a great game, but it had lots of problems and some people wont get GT6 before reading reviews.

I agree with this all for the GT5 was great, that is just subjective.

 

[DingoDile]

Do you have any numbers to show that prove this, the same was asked of the people who started this thread and they weren't really able too.

PD official site
GT: 10850
GT2: 9370
GT3: 14890
GT4: 11730

What?

I mean lots of gamers (not real GT fans) wont get a last gen racing and will buy next gen racings like FM5.
Racing is a genre without story, characters, special gameplay (!), ... and graphics in this genre are more important than others sections for amateur gamers.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

PD official site
GT: 10850
GT2: 9370
GT3: 14890
GT4: 11730

Don't think you understand you said GT6 pre orders "are very very good", but how would you know that? Or are you saying something else. I'm asking for GT6 pre order numbers not previous sales I've seen several times on this forum that are empty numbers.

I mean lots of gamers (not real GT fans) wont get a last gen racing and will buy next gen racings like FM5.
Racing is a genre without story, characters, special gameplay (!), ... and graphics in this genre are more important than others sections for amateur gamers.

Yeah I know all that, I just don't understand the point you're trying to get at in your post. You're confusing.

 

[DingoDile]

Don't think you understand you said GT6 pre orders "are very very good", but how would you know that? Or are you saying something else. I'm asking for GT6 pre order numbers not previous sales I've seen several times on this forum that are empty numbers.

I compared GT5 vs GT6 US pre-order numbers from this site.

GT5 pre-order number was 325000 a week before launch & GT6 is 205000 two weeks before launch. though PAL numbers are more important in GTs and we dont have those numbers.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I compared GT5 vs GT6 US pre-order numbers from this site.

GT5 pre-order number was 325000 a week before launch & GT6 is 205000 two weeks before launch. though PAL numbers are more important in GTs and we dont have those numbers.

Once again the site is one that has been long discounted on the forums and if you go back through the pages you'll see what @Scaff gives insight into it.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Once again the site is one that has been long discounted on the forums and if you go back through the pages you'll see what @Scaff gives insight into it.

This is true, but it's the only numbers we have and it's the point of discussion from the OP.

 

[ironman44321]

Once again the site is one that has been long discounted on the forums and if you go back through the pages you'll see what @Scaff gives insight into it.

The entire thread is based on numbers from that site. No one has an issue with them when they are really low but now that they have improved we can't trust the site?

 

[MeanElf]

...or get bored of the PS4 and go back to the PS3...

Funny.

Why would someone get bored of a new console? You sir assume too much, I fear.

 

[SaulWolfden]

Funny.

Why would someone get bored of a new console? You sir assume to much, I fear.

Lack of games or lack of games that interest them. There usually isn't all that much for a new console when it first comes out.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

The entire thread is based on numbers from that site. No one has an issue with them when they are really low but now that they have improved we can't trust the site?

People have had issues with that site for a very long time; the better question would be why it's suddenly a trusted source.

 

[ironman44321]

People have had issues with that site for a very long time; the better question would be why it's suddenly a trusted source.

Yeah, that's a pretty good point. I don't really know whether to trust the numbers they provide or not. A look through there methodology makes it seem alright, but I don't like the "All sales estimates on VGChartz are arrived at via a number of proprietrary and ever-developing methods" part of it. Makes it seem like they just sort of make it up as they go.

 

[MeanElf]

Lack of games or lack of games that interest them. There usually isn't all that much for a new console when it first comes out.

I understand why some might, though buying a console for one or two games seems a bit silly - I never did get the whole buying a console for one game only rationale.

I think for those who have done that, they might be surprised by the indie games if they do go a'lookin'.

 

[avens]

Oh my, "merely a game"... for me GT5 was the greatest game ever, with over 1000 cars, great physics, great graphics and and and.. I played GT5 regulary for over 2 1/2 years, no other game make me do that!

How can anyone call GT5 "merely a game"?! If you compare it to other racing games you will see that GT5 has tons more great things than every other racing game!!

In today's Grinch-like post_
http://pastebin.com/cYuxqKnd


In today's glass half full approach:
http://pastebin.com/nvmp1VjK


edit: seems the spoiler tag isn't working, therefore pastebin'd it.

 

[Shirrako]

You mean in a week? Considering the number or bought PS4s in NA so far...I doubt sold pre-orders will happen here or anywhere else. People will wait, buy it first day, or get bored of the PS4 and go back to the PS3 if they haven't already pre-ordered.

Wrong, GT6 had 70k pre-orders in USA just last week, every week closer to release is usually bigger, doubt anyone will get bored of PS4 in a week, we're talking about pre-orders, not sales overall, you can't pre-order a game after release.

 

[ron86]

In today's Grinch-like post_
http://pastebin.com/cYuxqKnd


In today's glass half full approach:
http://pastebin.com/nvmp1VjK


edit: seems the spoiler tag isn't working, therefore pastebin'd it.

Sorry but i dont get it oO

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The entire thread is based on numbers from that site. No one has an issue with them when they are really low but now that they have improved we can't trust the site?

Actually wrong, if you go back and look at the comments I suggested rather than shooting from the hip you and the people that liked your comment would show we actually defended GT quite adamantly. Might wanna look into it, since we had issues from the OP.

Funny.

Why would someone get bored of a new console? You sir assume to much, I fear.

So you say this ironically and yet have done the same thing, because no one is the world would do that so soon? I have friends that have already started to get bored with PS4 and are waiting for a surplus of games to start showing, MS is worse and we even have people on here returning FM5 and waiting for GT6. That looks like a return from a new console to an old, but hey I assume to much but not you though.

 

[avilab]

I just ordered on the US PSN store a few minutes ago, so the numbers should increase quite a bit more in the next several days.

 

[trustjab]

The VGCharts site was the basis of the argument on both sides because it was the only site to compare GT6's preorders vs. GT5's.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Wrong, GT6 had 70k pre-orders in USA just last week, every week closer to release is usually bigger, doubt anyone will get bored of PS4 in a week, we're talking about pre-orders, not sales overall, you can't pre-order a game after release.

Where did you get those numbers, once again read the entire thread before you put your little whimsical thought into it. Also I know what we're talking about and my comment isn't about pre-orders after the prefix gives away the notion of what is being done, be nice if you give me the intellectual respect I'm giving you. What I was talking about believe it or not, is that the games wont make the pre-order amount of GT5 and more people will buy it day of release or after, which is the scenarios I gave. Once again lack of games make new consoles a nice paper weight really fast, but no one would ever do that.