Have you tracked a real 370Z?

[nobuffalo]

Alot of people are saying the stock 370Z is not handling close to it's real life counterpart, many also say it handles like the real thing. So i'm curious, have you really pushed one on a track?

 

[tony1311]

Alot of people are saying the stock 370z is not handling close to it's real life counterpart, many also say it handles like the real thing. So i'm curious, have you really pushed one on a track?

You don't have to have much experience to see that the z handles strangely.

The tuned one has too much oversteer while letting the brake and the standard one spins second with straight wheels.

Also, how can i turn abs on with the standard z?

 

[TrievelA7X]

Nope.
did push a 350Z, though I can't say where.

But this thread will get 99% BS claims of yes, and the one or two that have, one will probably just have driven, but not raced one, and the other, won't be believed because of all the other BS. Oh well, can't hurt to try.

 

[TrievelA7X]

You don't have to have much experience to see that the z handles strangely.

The tuned one has too much oversteer while letting the brake and the standard one spins second with straight wheels.

Also, how can i turn abs on with the standard z?

That I agree with. the rest is wrong.
If you've ever slammed the brakes and cranked the wheel, in pretty much ANY car, you'd expect the back end to fly out.
And I don't believe abs is an option, I believe it's already on. remember those are crap tires.

 

[nobuffalo]

Perhaps I should have made it an open poll, oh well. I have never even been in a 370Z let alone a 350Z so I guess I shouldn't have any say in how the car handles.

 

[TrievelA7X]

Perhaps I should have made it an open poll, oh well. I have never even been in a 370Z let alone a 350Z so I guess I shouldn't have any say in how the car handles.

well that's not entirely true.
Just because you haven't raced a certain type of car doesn't mean you can't know how racing physics work in general.

For example, I can tell you, if you do drive a 370Z stock, it won't smoke the tread off the tires by punching the throttle at a 20mph roll in second, nary a sub-500hp car can, if any.
A 350Z won't from a 10mph roll in 1st gear, and with only 30 extra ponies, that fairly well tells the story itself.

 

[phil_2001]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HaOmpXU9Qo - Look at this video. It seems the 370Z is a really good sports car and very stable, very controlable. It's german, but you still only need the video, not the audio. And just look how close to real life it is modeled in GT5. Amazing. Also amazing how real it looks physics wise in GT5 Demo.

 

[tony1311]

That I agree with. the rest is wrong.
If you've ever slammed the brakes and cranked the wheel, in pretty much ANY car, you'd expect the back end to fly out.
And I don't believe abs is an option, I believe it's already on. remember those are crap tires.

I am talking about oversteer not under braking, but after braking and letting the brake pedal go. I believe it is called trail brake oversteer but i am not sure.

 

[TrievelA7X]

I am talking about oversteer not under braking, but after braking and letting the brake pedal go. I believe it is called trail brake oversteer but i am not sure.

Regardless, it's tuned, therefore it would be more biased to oversteer, that's how people tune racecars, because it's faster.

 

[Jay]

From all the test reviews of the 370Z I have seen they almost all just love throwing it around into powerslides just like the stocker in the time trial behaves.


Little hard to compare the tuned version to anything because we don't even know how it was modified and what settings it has.

 

[Lain]

No.

 

[nobuffalo]

For example, I can tell you, if you do drive a 370Z stock, it won't smoke the tread off the tires by punching the throttle at a 20mph roll in second, nary a sub-500hp car can, if any.

Neither will the one simulated in the game, unless i'm doing something wrong.

 

[ItsHim]

It's german, but you still only need the video, not the audio.

RTL 2 is a trash TV channel. So maybe not the best choice in evidence

 

[Stotty]

No, not driven a 370Z at all, never mind on a track. But I see nothing wrong in principal with the way the un-tuned version handles... haven't run the tuned one much yet, so I'll reserve final judgement until I've had a proper run.

The untuned version is lovely though. The handling feels very realistic to me... try to carry too much speed in to the corner and it understeers, Try to brake too deep in to the apex and it understeers, Try to jump on the gas exiting a corner and it oversteers. This is how a FR car behaves in real life.

Just like a real car, it responds well to smooth control input... throttle/brake/gas... try to use too much throttle with too much steering lock applied and it will slide. Get the steering angle right and there's loads of grip at up to about 90% of full throttle. And I'm no drifter, but I had no problems holding slight oversteer slides in it (quarter turn of oposite lock) and finding the balance point with the throttle.

People complaining about the handling of this car are undoubtably over driving it... pushing too hard, missing the apex through understeer, then piling on steering lock to try recover their line and then wondering why it spins when they get back on the gas.

Try slowing down your entry speed a touch and you'll find you have a lot more fornt end grip... and as a result, you can use less lock and get back on the throttle much earlier.

 

[nobuffalo]

Well put Stotty. 👍 I'm liking the stock car more and more each time I drive it, I think people just need to feel it out a little more.

 

[Paulie]

I find the stock car just fine and way more fun than the annoying turn-in oversteering Tuned version. But I've never tracked anything of the sort.

 

[Worst_Driver]

I wish I had.

 

[FLASH48]

Nope never been in one, let alone on a race track with one! But do like the new sound from the tuned 370z!!👍

 

[kanariya]

Drive a G37. Same engine, different car.
Never drove with VDC off but I've heard stories about people turned off VDC by accident and spun out in a low speed 90' turn.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

i've driven my friends Turbo'd 350z, which is irrelevant, and it was on the street, but i did get it sideways in 2nd gear (he had nismo lsd) at about 60 mph around a few turns and was very easy to manage. (sorry just wanted to share although it doesn't help or contribute to the thread).

-Robert 👍

 

[McLaren]

That I agree with. the rest is wrong.
If you've ever slammed the brakes and cranked the wheel, in pretty much ANY car, you'd expect the back end to fly out.
And I don't believe abs is an option, I believe it's already on. remember those are crap tires.

If I slam the brakes & turn the wheel, the last thing that's going to happen is the rear coming around....

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

If I slam the brakes & turn the wheel, the last thing that's going to happen is the rear coming around....

I agree, depending on the car/pads/brake bias normally if you slam the brakes the wheels will lock up and it doesn't matter WHICH way the wheel is turned, you're going straight....

 

[FlareKR]

Pretty funny as all the whiners have answered no.
Not one has answered yes.

 

[fcautoX]

That I agree with. the rest is wrong.
If you've ever slammed the brakes and cranked the wheel, in pretty much ANY car, you'd expect the back end to fly out.
And I don't believe abs is an option, I believe it's already on. remember those are crap tires.

You have obviously never driven competitively

 

[LandMotorsport]

I have driven a 370Z around Moroso and Miami raceway. But only in SOLO events. The car in the game is to tailhappy and twitchy. It really surprised me considering how much work PD put into development. It seems like the car is to hard in the back. Adjusting the spring rate could do wonders. But oh well. Both cars seems to hard in the back. But dont get me wrong I thing it handles pretty true to reality......... just with an god awful set-up

 

[OZR-MrB52]

I have driven a 350z on 2 tracks here in Australia, but didn't push it to hard it wasn't my car.
Here in Australia we can take our street cars to some race tracks and try them out on a organized race day.
I have a 94 Supra and a friend has a 2007 350z Track, we have run both cars on the two tracks, 10 laps in our own cars then swapped cars for another 10 laps.
The grip level of the tuned 370z in the game is very much the same as the real 350z car. The stock 370z must be running on solid rubber tires, the grip level is way out. If you go out onto the grass its like you are on ice, yes the grip on grass is no way as good than the tar but in the demo the grip is BS.
The 350z killed the Supra in the corners, but there's nothing like Twin Turbo horsepower down the straights.

 

[Jay]

I find the stock car just fine and way more fun than the annoying turn-in oversteering Tuned version. But I've never tracked anything of the sort.

I agree, I enjoy the stocker much more, I just drive it around a lot just for fun. I haven't put hardly any time into the tuned version but I got used to the turn in oversteer and tamed it with some throttle.

The grip level of the tuned 350z in the game is very much the same as the real car.

The stock 350Z can pull 1.5g's!?

Also the cars in the time trials are 370Z's not 350's

 

[Perkel]

most people don't realize that 370z new suspension so you can't compare it to 350z...

 

[Rage0329]

I've driven my Dad's 370Z IRL, just last week too, in Melbourne, to Tullarmarine Airport at 5 in the morning. I'm driving his old 350Z atm. The feeling of the steering and the weight shifting feels just like real life. I can't say I smoke the tires or drift and experience understeer and oversteer in normal everyday driving though.

 

[IronM@sk]

I think the real issue here is not the actual car handling, but the stupid tire model and poor force feedback they are using. It's like as soon as the car loses traction there isn't any sideways force acting on the tire, like it's a solid object with no elasticity. Couple that with the fact that understeer and oversteer have absolutely no FFB component so you can't "feel" when the car is letting go, or when the grip has returned and it makes for a pretty awful drive.