Kaz: Pushing the Virtual Divide

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by sokira, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. ProjectWHaT

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    Oh! Hey look! Someone updated the title! :lol:
     
  2. Snake1405

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    Everyone is laughing at his documental video, but remember that without this guy, we wouldn't have what we had 15 years ago, and how it is now, how people learned from his works. People has no memory..

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    We owe him a lot.
     
  3. 6 Cylinder

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    He doesn't have an unique skill set. Nobody does. If he hadn't made a Playstation driving simulator somebody else would've.
     
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    Plenty of people have a unique skill set. Creativity is limitless, it a shame you can't see that. It's not really something that can be taught.

    There was over 300 different driving games on PS1. Kaz wiped the floor with all of them.
     
  5. ron86

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    You wouldnt be able to write here if he
    This is so right :tup:

    Most of the people seem to not have any kind of respect nowadays.
     
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    I've not seen people laughing, obviously the docu is a bit self serving and a massive Gran Turismo commercial, but it's also a pretty interesting watch for fans of the series.

    I enjoyed it anyway.
     
  7. Cosbuster

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    I paid full price for most of his game releases. I really don't think I owe him anything.
     
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    Exactly. If it weren't for us fans buying his games, he wouldn't be where he is today. I hope he keeps that in mind while developing GT games.
     
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    Exactly. Do I owe Samsung because they were generous enough to let me buy ****loads of their electronics? Do I owe my local supermarket because they allow me to buy food from them?
    Kaz is a business man and he got rich doing business with us. Plain and simple.
    By Snakes logic, Kaz owes me, really. I beta tested his last couple of games, after all.
     
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  10. Cosbuster

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    Amen to that.
     
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    Wasn't talking about money. You know what I mean, the gaming industry, the fans of every GT..

    Except for the people that only play a game and just that, that don't feel anything through the years.
     
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  12. ildd

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    It's just you
     
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  13. jimipitbull

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    You are well versed in American Idol parody. Very subtle, well played.
     
  14. TenEightyOne

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    I sat and watched the whole thing last night, very very good. I hadn't expected it to be so well produced or so interesting!
     
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    I am gonna watch it now.
     
  16. KoldStrejke

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    Well I have a Brother in law How was into GT games, and he stopped buying them after GT 4. He knew Kaz was hoseing us. but i think the younger Generation of players don't help at all either. they play, have fun, and don't over analyse like us big boys do. I love GT series but, now Kaz is getting on my nerves.
     
  17. SillyBillyP

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    This video may be an agreeable watch for fans of the series, but it is no more than a one-hour 24-minute TV commercial. That was not a documentary. What insight could be gained from it? Next to none.
     
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    Man some people here have a warped perception on reality... I didn't really think the doc was that good though tbh... It didn't really explain much of anything... Like how Kaz went about developing GT1 or how he got a job at Sony or how his race career started out... I wish they have removed all the nonsense with artists and just given us some more background on Kaz...


    To the people here who think you owe the man nothing, it's amazing how ignorant and self entitled some people can be I guess, hopefully you'll grow up one day though and realise that without Kaz you'd have greatly missed out on something worth much more than the simple price of a game every 4yrs
     
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    Well, I did watch it after all, & have to say that I quite enjoyed it. Yes, there was far too much poncing about, & all that arty farty stuff could've been cut down. However, as an insight into kazunori Yamauchi San the man himself, it was very enlightening. I couldn't help but think, "Wow, what a nice guy!". It gave me a little more appreciation as to where he's coming from, & what his attitude to Gran Turismo is. He talked about the focus he had when making GT1; I think he & his team have lost that somewhat starting with GT5 Prologue & the move to PS3 through to GT6. I thought that Jordan came across very well too.


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    True, but you could say that about the work of any artist or producer who is continuously successful.

    Plenty of people see their way to a single lucky success but it takes more than a single skill to consistently manage your artistic vision into a big-selling production.

    Kaz had a lucky break which he leveraged with a bit of subterfuge, but since GT broke cover he's used his skill set to make it the success it's been. Unique? No, of course not, but GT wouldn't be what (or where) it is with any other producer or any other production history.
     
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    I will watch this movie only when we will get GT6 complete !
     
  22. Cosbuster

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    How do you know what his games are worth to me or anyone else? Just because they have a very special place in your heart, don't assume it holds true for everyone.
     
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    Watched the whole documentary yesterday and loved it ! Only if we had the same sounds in the actual gt6 which they used for the in-game clips presented in the documentary :lol:
     
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    I think you're wrong. I greatly appreciate what Kaz has done for GT1-4. Those are games that I would call experiences. They were the best at what they did during the time. 5 and 6? Not so much. I'm not saying they're bad games. I enjoy playing GT6. But they do not hold the same impact for me that the first four GTs did. And that's where I think most people are coming from. Many of us supported Kaz and his franchise since GT1 and have fallen in love with every game since then. But ever since GT5, it seems like he has distanced himself from his games. This part of @CarBastard's post pretty much sums it up:

    It's quite a frustrating thing to see after helping the man and GT get so far in the world.
     
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    I like the documentary. I consider it very informative and very well done. Interesting to get to know something about the man behind GT and the idea of GT being more than just entertainment - it's about art, craftsmanship and coming closer to reality.
     
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    The fact that your replying to my post in a GT6 sub forum on a GT forum points out, at least to me that tr GT franchise means enough to you that you would search and look for a place with people who shared you love for these games and that the community you found based around GT was such a positive experience for you that you decided to stay.

    Or do you just post here ironically?
     
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    Very interesting, a good watch.
     
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    Gave up after an hour. I will admit, it's not a Kaz ego trip, as I had previously assumed. Hell, it's barely even about Kaz. It does, however, show very clearly how far removed they are from the game. How they completely fail at realising that they are being left behind in the dust by other developers, in almost every single area of game design.

    Kaz is a racing driver himself, but in what ways does the game benefit from it? The career is a joke, and has nothing to do with real racing. Same with AI, and the physics, while good, aren't the best out there. PD remains a joke. If they don't realise and fix that, I think (and hope) that they'll flush out the toilet within years.

    And about the GT Academy. Do they honestly believe that this is only possible with the Gran Turismo franchise? I know that they're the only ones doing it (as far as I know), but you could get the exact same result from any other "realistic" franchise out there.

    The biggest problem for me, and the part that :censored: me off the most, is that aside from Turn 10, not a single other developer has as many ressources at their disposal as PD does. They have a massive amount of money and contacts to aqquire licenses for cars and tracks, and yet, they waste all that potential with their game design that is so far away from being adequate. It's pathetic. Twice now, we've been sold a whoefully unfinished product.
     
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  29. Cosbuster

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    Liking/playing a game enough to make being part of its community worthwhile (especially these days that online is a big part of the experience) is a long distance from loving it to the point you feel you personaly owe something to its creator other than your original "entry" fee.

    For some of us, it's just another decent game. Maybe you should keep that in mind before you go on about ignorance and growing-up.
     
  30. baldgye

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    Yeah I'm not disagreeing with you really as everyone is entitled to there own opinions.

    I just think more people need to take deep breaths. Not every game can be perfect, and mistakes will and can be made. You have to take the rough with the smooth and trust in the people making the game that they will deliver in the end.

    I think Kaz has earned at least that.