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Discussion in 'Gran Turismo Sport' started by Conza, Oct 29, 2015.
And there is no wheel support.
At release, and it's free.
Might as well wait for PS4k/Slim at this point. Doesn't sound like the game is coming out anytime soon.
"But but but, the PS4 is easy to develop" and Kaz: "The PS4 is like a blank canvas"... Guess the PS4 just wasn't enough for them it seems if they're taking THIS long into the PS4's life..... >_>
"Er guys, this canvas is nice and blank and all, but I'm going to need a bigger one. You get me that, then i'll think about doing you a game. You see, I have a vision....." - Kaz, maybe.
Spot on post right there. Kaz thinks he too special with this "vision" he had since GT5? I honestly wonder what he's trying to capture, but at same I wouldn't want to know thanks to GT5/6. He's full of it... (-_-')
Presumably though, as the PS4 is a different architecture to the PS3, PD would have to rewrite their game engine, redo optimizations etc.
Which will take them what, another 3 to 5 years to do? Don't want to turn this into a verses thread, but even T10 was faster than that with FM5 for the XB1, which is also on a new architecture and it only took them 2 years... So what is PD waiting for, the PS4.5, PSVR, both?
Are they the only ones? What advantages did DC, FM, AC, or Pcars have?
They would also have had an advantage over most other studios by knowing about the new hardware first. There can be no excuses for PD in that department.
I remember I made this to mock PD:
An average day at PD:
I don't think they'll be waiting for the PS4.5, presumably the game is still going to run on the current model.
I'm not quite certain how this relates to the advantages/disadvantages moving from PS3 to PS4.
You quoted Toko who cited them taking a long time despite the suggestion it would be easier, and you said they would have had to rewrite stuff for PS3 to PS4. @CSLACR 's point was that other developers had the same task and have got games out a lot quicker. So what is the excuse from PD?
I mean, do you and others realise that once Naughty Dog put out Uncharted 4 PD will be the only major first party Sony studio not to have a game on PS4? Although ND did manage to put out a port as well already.
Santa Monica studio?
Their new IP was cancelled and they've since only been collaborating with other studios.
I understand what you mean by "major studio". For me, Poly has no excuse. Money and technology for them is not a problem, simply bad management. Gt sport will probably have as many cars as Project cars, a crowdfunded game! Kaz seems to be his own boss, things won't change. When I see that Sony has closed Evo studio, PD should feel worry for itself. Because after the "failures" of NFS and Driveclub, it's the whole racing genre as main stream product on ps4 which depends on Gran Turismo.
The premise was that development would be easier than the PS3, therefore it shouldn't take as long. I suggested that there were other factors to consider before that conclusion could be drawn.
Considering the comparison with other games, and their development times. That seems a bit facile to me, it's too difficult to compare like with like. Things that can be compared such as time modeling content etc seems to be similar across different developers though.
Yes I will buy a PS4 for GTS, I already started saving some money.
Somewhat true, but remember the other fact. PS3 was notoriously difficult to code for and PD similarly had to rewrite their PS2 engine. Despite this they managed to release GT5 Prologue 13 months after launch. Here were are 26 months into the PS4 life, double that, and nothing. We've got another 6 months before a game at best scenario, possibly longer.
Something is amiss here.
They presumably were able to start work fully on GT5 Prologue soon after GT4 was released though, which was quite a bit before the launch of the PS3, and which also didn't require post-release support, in contrast to the situation with GT6.
They made TT, PSP, and GT HD, in the time between GT4 and GT5P.
True, but it's still difficult to compare not knowing how their resources were allocated, how much of the GT HD work was carried over to GT5P etc.
The same can be said for GT6, and PD did say it was a platform for future games.
Also true, but I still think there's too many unknowns to be able to make a meaningful comparison between the respective development times since the launch of the consoles.
I sold my PS4 2 years ago because there weren't any games I wanted to play on it, but with GT Sport on the way, I'm thinking of buying a PS4 again, mainly for GT Sport. Also, GT Academy is likely to be ran on GTS according to my logic, but I could easily be wrong about that.
GTS for PS4 may be the one reason for me to turn off the Super Nintendo for a while.
I totally held off from buying a PS4 all this time, as both that and XB1 have ZERO games that pique my interest yet. No Man's Sky looks very interesting, but going to wait on a batch of reviews before i get over excited and pay out a whole mega tonne of money for something i might regret. Now there are rumours abound of an updated PS4, potentially in October ( internet rumour, i know ), i'm absolutely holding off yet again, as GT Sport will inevitably twist my arm, but if i can get a machine that runs it better ( IF rumours are indeed true about a new machine ) then I will finally buy a PS4(.5?) for GTS, yep absolutely Plus, my dear old PS3 ( 8 years old and counting ) is starting to creak a bit now, so maybe time to upgrade...
GTS looks promising so far, but I'm not going to let the hype get to me this time. I've been let down twice already by GT5 and GT6, and buying a console for one game is big commitment. I have to think carefully about this. So for GTS, I'm going to wait until after its release and watch how things play out around here before I go out and buy a PS4.
Right now, no. GTS is not enough...yet. Let's see what, if anything, they're holding back.
I sold my G27 and stand and still trying to sell my PS3 because I got bored of GT. I'd love to get back into with this new game but it might not happen for me.
I'd say yes, even if this does turn out to be not as good as older GT's I'll still buy it for the sake of completion. I intend on getting all of the recent driving sims for the PS4. Soon I'll add assetto corsa and GTS to my collection.