Senna content coming soon?

[vasiliflame]

It's my opinion griff so I am not wrong , opinions are as varied as the life on this plantet

 

[indiota]

Not here to change anyone's opinion , if he brings out the positive in some people that's great but as a formula1 fan all my life senna was never relevant to me and never rated as a true "professional" driver he was all instinct and chance and that ultimately taking chances took his life. This kamakaze style of driving worked in the 50's and 60's but people expected and accepted it in the sport at that time. I hope pd handle it well as it means so much to the Brazilian people, for me I don't really care about the senna connection just happy to have a classic lotus f1 car to blast around

oh yeah, a man highly regarded by everyone who knew him for his professionalism and commitment, his work on fine details, his capacity to work with early telemetry technology, he drove only with instincts and taking chances, yeah, right...

dude, you already said you weren't a fan and you clearly don't know what you're talking about, so, stop.

 

[TheCracker]

I think they might release Interlagos instead of Zahara. Interlagos would be a bit more relevant to Senna, right?

Not especially relevant to the 97T though as it never raced there.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

It's my opinion griff so I am not wrong , opinions are as varied as the life on this plantet

Except when you place your opinion the realm of fact, then it no longer has the life of an opinion. You stated that you didn't think of Senna as anything important (paraphrase) and wasn't considered "professional" which is an opinion though could be argued where you're basing that off of. Then you made the claim that his driving caused his death that day, a type of driving that was careless/reckless and thus his luck ran out. Thus no longer an opinion and thus it can be asked where you got this idea, or claimed wrong as was done it also can be asked of you to prove it.

It's more obvious that bias, is your method of stating which is fine, but other people also have a heavy opinion and they're free to shout it at you. Since this is a forum, never understood those who think their opinion is some special little snowflake that can go unharmed. Then reality comes knocking

 

[vasiliflame]

Idiota like iam going to take your advice with a name like that , common , I wasn't a fan of his your right but because I don't rate the guy at all and he was very dangerous, I don't look at him with rosé tinted nostalgia glasses I see the facts that nobody at that time like driving with him because of the danger still present in the sport. Even after all jackie Stewart's efforts for all over a many years of tireless battling for safety, jackie himself interviewed him and touched on his dangerous driving style.

Like I said I do not want to change anyone's opinion I just expressed mine

The day he died , simply his tyres wasn't warm enough he was going to fast for conditions at the track , pressure didn't raise the car slightly like they would have for ground clearance , simply hit the ground skipped into barrier ... It's sad yes but it happened driver error


Think what you want I will think for myself and we go on about our merry days

 

[indiota]

Idiota like iam going to take your advice with a name like that , common , I wasn't a fan of his your right but because I don't rate the guy at all and he was very dangerous, I don't look at him with rosé tinted nostalgia glasses I see the facts that nobody at that time like driving with him because of the danger still present in the sport. Even after all jackie Stewart's efforts for all over a many years of tireless battling for safety, jackie himself interviewed him and touched on his dangerous driving style.

Like I said I do not want to change anyone's opinion I just expressed mine

ok, everyone here knows you're only trolling and so on, but still, we responded to your "opinions". so stop being such a stubborn child and learn to discuss with people who points at where you're wrong.

it's easy to only say "it's my opinion, I can say whatever I want" and dodge the discussion, and it's even easier to mock my nickname, but that doesn't make your "opinion" right.

 

[fortbo]

ok, everyone here knows you're only trolling and so on, but still, we responded to your "opinions". so stop being such a stubborn child and learn to discuss with people who points at where you're wrong.

it's easy to only say "it's my opinion, I can say whatever I want" and dodge the discussion, and it's even easier to mock my nickname, but that doesn't make your "opinion" right.

I think we need to stop responding to his "opinions".

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Everyone should have freedom of speech, but no-one should have freedom of consequence.

 

[indiota]

I think we need to stop responding to his "opinions".

I'm bored.

 

[NK]

The day he died , simply his tyres wasn't warm enough he was going to fast for conditions at the track , pressure didn't raise the car slightly like they would have for ground clearance , simply hit the ground skipped into barrier ... It's sad yes but it happened driver error


Think what you want I will think for myself and we go on about our merry days

So near, yet so far off the mark.

Senna's steering column broke. He went straight on into a barrier with an impact speed of around 210kph. The offside front wheel detached and made fatal impact with his head.

Driver error? No.

Like orifices, everyone has an opinion, but they hold no ground against the actual facts. You simply can't make stuff up in your head and plaster it on a knowledgeable forum and expect to get away with the 'opinion' card.

 

[Griffith500]

It's my opinion griff so I am not wrong , opinions are as varied as the life on this plantet

You said drivers in the '50s and '60s were "kamikaze". That is patently false. Their mortality was more apparent to them than any other generation of drivers, and it doesn't take much to extend that respect to other racers around you.

Had Senna been racing in that era, it's likely he'd have learned the same lesson early on, the same as everyone else. He still would have been a great driver, on account of his (super)natural car control and focus, assuming he got the same chances. Races back then were more a case of attrition, too, so drivers looked after the cars more, and racecraft was more about balancing all those risks together.

F1 racing today is more about maximising the pace, so drivers are freer to ignore those risks, to a much greater degree, and focus on squeezing the car, and their opponents.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The day he died , simply his tyres wasn't warm enough he was going to fast for conditions at the track , pressure didn't raise the car slightly like they would have for ground clearance , simply hit the ground skipped into barrier ... It's sad yes but it happened driver error


Think what you want I will think for myself and we go on about our merry days

I don't think what I want to think I actually investigate and analyze things, it must be an easy life to do such simple methods without questioning yourself or willing to push your intellect or have others do so. Everyone's tires were cold that day due to a lengthy following of the safety car who drivers wanted to go faster to conserve heat that was being lost due to not being at condition. He was one of the drivers, Damon Hill even claims this along with Williams, so unless you have something to say contrary, your argument falls at their door.

Tamburello is a very fast corner in original form and thus cars at the same tire temperatures as Senna's were going around said corner at same speeds. Tire puncture has been claimed by many as a probable cause of the wreck as well as the still debated steering column failure due to it's rushed design all of which you don't even remotely try to address. But as said by me and others now this is probably a sad attempt at trolling and should be returned to the original topic. Yet it's stupid to claim that a driver especially of his caliber would veer off on his own at such a high speed corner because it was his making, especially a corner designed for cars to go around at 190+.

 

[Samus]

Ignore the troll, folks.

 

[Rod Carvalho]

What a disapointment. I saw the in game picture of that lous on gtp, went straight into tye game and got nothing.
I really hope Pd is not planning to delay the content realease to the end of may 2015.

What a great way to honor Senna s memory by delaying the release...

 

[Scuderia Paul]

What a disapointment. I saw the in game picture of that lous on gtp, went straight into tye game and got nothing.
I really hope PD is not planning to delay the content realease to the end of May 2015.

What a great way to honor Senna's memory by delaying the release...

A great way to honour Senna's memory? Where did you see the content has been delayed? You are just jumping to your own conclusions. It is clearly stated in the article and on gran-turismo.com it will be out in late May and you can be confident the schedule will be adhered to as the roll-out has commenced.

 

[CeeJay]

Whew.. I'm soooo glad to see PD did something for the Senna anniversary & made an announcement. Very please! Now the wait to see what the actual content will consist of.

 

[gtuned]

Huh, wow. They actually finished the car.

Still doubt it'll bring me back to GT6 unless it gets completely revamped or unless Photomode gets fixed to atleast GT5 quality.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

So, I left internet for a bit and now there is a guy saying that Senna's drinving style caused his death. Wow. Just wow.

 

[TokoTurismo]

So, I left internet for a bit and now there is a guy saying that Senna's drinving style caused his death. Wow. Just wow.

That's the internet for ya.

 

[sparkytooth]

All we know now is that we get a 97T. There could be more.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

This argument is getting good.

 

[Jose Frias]

All we know now is that we get a 97T. There could be more.

You cannot believe everything PD says.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

All we know now is that we get a 97T. There could be more.

Well the GT website pretty much confirmed this when saying that this is one of the cars that will be part of the full content. Thus hinting at more stuff along with it.

 

[sparkytooth]

You cannot believe everything PD says.

I was waiting for this response

My cynicism only goes so far, so I'll trust PD this time.

 

[NightHawkFur]

So, I left internet for a bit and now there is a guy saying that Senna's drinving style caused his death. Wow. Just wow.

It's what that stupid "History Channel" documentary tried to convice us...

They say the accident was caused because the tires weren't warm yet after the saftety car laps and the car made ground contact.

However the accident happened 2 Laps after the safety car so you can argue: "why didn't he crash the lap before ?"

broken steering column after it had been welded cheaply to extend it. end of story

 

[Samus]

My prediction:

1. Ayrton Senna Kart series
Exactly like the first Red Bull X Challenge, but with Ayrton's Kart.

2. Ayrton Senna F3 challenge
Like the Junior challenge, a series using his West Surrey Racing F3 car.

3. Ayrton Senna Formula Challange
A one make race series using the Lotus F1 car.

4. Beat Senna Challenge
Three time trials with the Lotus, trying to beat times that Senna set on three real world tracks.

 

[86Debris86]

It's what that stupid "History Channel" documentary tried to convice us...

He perhaps crashed because of driver error, that is debatable. However IIRC he died because of a component failure.

My prediction:


1. Ayrton Senna Kart series

Exactly like the first Red Bull X Challenge, but with Ayrton's Kart.


2. Ayrton Senna F3 challenge

Like the Junior challenge, a series using his West Surrey Racing F3 car.


3. Ayrton Senna Formula Challange

A one make race series using the Lotus F1 car.


4. Beat Senna Challenge

Three time trials with the Lotus, trying to beat times that Senna set on three real world tracks.

Acceptabru.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

My prediction:

1. Ayrton Senna Kart series
Exactly like the first Red Bull X Challenge, but with Ayrton's Kart.

2. Ayrton Senna F3 challenge
Like the Junior challenge, a series using his West Surrey Racing F3 car.

3. Ayrton Senna Formula Challange
A one make race series using the Lotus F1 car.

4. Beat Senna Challenge
Three time trials with the Lotus, trying to beat times that Senna set on three real world tracks.

Suzuka, Spa and Nurburgring.

He perhaps crashed because of driver error, that is debatable. However IIRC he died because of a component failure.



Acceptabru.

Predictable.

 

[elston87]

That film was beautiful. Anything done in tribute to Senna is so beautiful and moving; Tamir has been doing great with what he's produced so far, and that short little film was...just beautiful. I'm running short of expressions to convey but that's the only suitable word that describes the feeling I get.

I have a hunch that PD has been working on its Senna tribute since the 31st of March or even earlier, when this was posted on their News section. I have a feeling that it's going to be more grand than what probably most people are predicting thus far. For once, I'm assuring PD will do an great job this time, and of all things it will be in tribute to my biggest role model.

...and now I'm off to watch the 2010 Senna film again.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

It's what that stupid "History Channel" documentary tried to convice us...

They say the accident was caused because the tires weren't warm yet after the saftety car laps and the car made ground contact.

However the accident happened 2 Laps after the safety car so you can argue: "why didn't he crash the lap before ?"

broken steering column after it had been welded cheaply to extend it. end of story