Will you be updating to 2.12?

[elston87]

Unfortunately, offline gameplay with the tools created by others has made Gran Tursimo 5 a better experience in my terms. Being able to control the selection of opponents with the secret menu is something that I enjoy, making my own challenges with unique cars.

Also, the garage modifier is quite interesting too, as I like to drive the X2010 5G and such. I like being able to explore the unavailable content within a game, and those tools that make it possible are being phased out by this new update.

I'll stay on 2.11, as I'll enjoy the game much better anyway with the locked-out features and content made accessible by the tools created generously from others. I rarely had fun online experiences anyway, and the seasonal events for me have been nothing but awry.

 

[Wankelhead]

Hahaha!! You're welcome. And I doubt the other fourms will be any different anyway, so prove it to me then.

Go check Nextgenupdate.com and see how many players support hybrids there.
There's no thread like this, but you'll see the diference of support between GTP and NGU.
Good enough?

 

[DanishGambit]

I started a public game yesterday for stock cars and clean driving and in that 4 hour period only one guy tried to drive dirty and everyone just passed him.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Go check Nextgenupdate.com and see how many players support hybrids there.
There's no thread like this, but you'll see the diference of support between GTP and NGU.
Good enough?

Okay well despite there are others supporting hybrids, so far I found one poll on there, and it only saids 78 above 5... Yep, sure beats GTP's poll which is 216. *Chuckles* Nice try though, you got anymore more fourms other that site's fourms poll hmm?

 

[VYPA-SQUAD_Ace]

This isn't going to end anytime soon, is it?

 

[thelvynau]

This isn't going to end anytime soon, is it?

I dont think it will end well

 

[ImprezaAddict]

Wow that poll result sure beats those who aren't updating. Funny. Gotta keep those hybrids yeah?

Majorities aren't always right. Just saying.

 

[VYPA-SQUAD_Ace]

I dont think it will end well

I agree. Hasn't even been 24 hours since the update and I think we've only seen the beginning of Gran Turismo 5's Civil War..

 

[MeanElf]

So by that logic all the Hybrid building for previous games caused the delays of all the next releases. Right.

Not sure how you reason that. Delays can have multiple reasons. This spate of modding cannot be helping the production schedule, that is what I'm saying.

And you don't see how that could blow up in their face?

Sorry for lumping you both together again in one reply, but I don't like double posting and I'm not on GTP all day.

Anyway, sure I can see that, which is why I said that I'm certain they don't want all of this to go that far. I am also positive that there will be other ways to check who and how, which I don't think will be automated - not something potentially as sensitive as this.

...Very simple: How does Sony know whether the PSN name attached to someone's posts are actually their PSN name? Sony has nothing to do with GTP, and I don't log into it with my PSN details. I can put whatever I want into the PSN/XBL information, including someone else's PSN/XBL details; or I could leave it blank

That is a very good point, I concede there.

 

[Wankelhead]

Okay well despite there are others supporting hybrids, so far I found one poll on there, and it only saids 78 above 5... Yep, sure beats GTP's poll which is 216. *Chuckles* Nice try though, you got anymore more fourms other that site's fourms poll hmm?

You really are a BIG troll/liar.
I just saw the thread you're talking about.
The tittle is "Was GT5 hybriding a good thing or a bad thing?"
There, the poll asks "Did you like GT5 hybriding?"
The choices and results?
"Yes, it made GT5 more fun." - 79
"No, it ruined GT5" - 5

Not even directly related

But anyway, kind of relating one with another, here are the percentages:

GTP - 28% against updating
NGU - 94% against updating

 

[thelvynau]

You really are a BIG troll/liar.
I just saw the thread you're talking about.
The tittle is "Was GT5 hybriding a good thing or a bad thing?"
There, the poll asks "Did you like GT5 hybriding?"
The with the choices and results?
"Yes, it made GT5 more fun." - 79
"No, it ruined GT5" - 5

So someone added a vote in between I still say TokoTurismo's point is valid.

 

[Wankelhead]

So someone added a vote in between I still say TokoTurismo's point is valid.

Check again.

 

[Tornado]

Okay well despite there are others supporting hybrids, so far I found one poll on there, and it only saids 78 above 5... Yep, sure beats GTP's poll which is 216. *Chuckles* Nice try though, you got anymore more fourms other that site's fourms poll hmm?

The main issue with this argument is you acting as if your poll with a sample size of 3 hundred-thousanths of a percent of GT5's sales is a notably more valid one in terms of something to base an argument around than his poll (covering an entirely different topic, honestly) with a sample size of 8 millionths of a percent. And a similar thing (though with drastically different numbers) would occur in any community you ask on the issue; because more people hybrid and/or have an opinion about it than join forums and vote about hybriding.

 

[Azure Flare]

It's about damn time these ****ing hybrids were dealt with.

I applaud PD for taking action against hackers.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

If I hadn't of met so many great people online, I would definitely stick with 2.11, but I enjoy racing against real people so much more than the AI, even if I've been able to create epic races in Arcade mode over the last 3 months thanks to these mods.


I thought I'd try a friend's hybrid that he had on share who has yet to update to 2.12, and went for a stupidly powered car to be sure.
The car loaded fine, said it had 6 million horsepower, so I took it to the Speedtest. In the background the car was still a hybrid with the usual trail of smoke and gun shot sounds as it rockets past the camera. As soon as I entered the car for myself though to run the speed test, it was back to being a regular Lamborghini .

Since the game now seems to read the car's data from the disc, I wasn't really expecting it to work, but worth a try.

 

[Jump_Ace]

It's about damn time these ****ing hybrids were dealt with.

I applaud PD for taking action against hackers.

QFT.

I hope the hybrids stay gone for good I don't care what excuse there is for 'better sounds', or 'I've always wanted them to implement engine swaps', etc. It's never justification enough to break the agreement. Be thankful Sony isn't Microsoft, or there'd be a lot of banned consoles/users. And then there'd probably be a 'Why I got banned' site for Sony too


Jerome

 

[TokoTurismo]

You really are a BIG troll/liar.
I just saw the thread you're talking about.
The tittle is "Was GT5 hybriding a good thing or a bad thing?"
There, the poll asks "Did you like GT5 hybriding?"
The choices and results?
"Yes, it made GT5 more fun." - 79
"No, it ruined GT5" - 5

Not even directly related

But anyway, kind of relating one with another, here are the percentages:

GTP - 28% against updating
NGU - 94% against updating

Where did you get that result from? Link please. And lol, a troll, really? I'm sooo hurt.

The main issue with this argument is you acting as if your poll with a sample size of 3 hundred-thousanths of a percent of GT5's sales is a notably more valid one in terms of something to base an argument around than his poll (covering an entirely different topic, honestly) with a sample size of 8 millionths of a percent. And a similar thing (though with drastically different numbers) would occur in any community you ask on the issue; because more people hybrid and/or have an opinion about it than join forums and vote about hybriding.

Well, polls are usually the better idea, since it tells you which sides the voters are on against or not against, like here on GTP imo.

 

[Nick Skyline]

I've already updated, and I guess I'm not going back.

I don't think I have any modded cars myself, so I may as well be thankful that all the overpowered cars (not that I saw a '92 Honda Civic blow past me at 550 km/h) are just about gone. I'm all for the near-extinction of said group, and I prefer to enter a lobby with an un-modded X1 over creating a Hennessey Venom GT replica out of a Lotus Elise 111R.

I haven't been into the lobbies in a long time, and I had no idea that was going on. I'd like to thank PD for at least doing something about it.

I think the reason more people have updated to 2.12 than haven't (well, at least in this thread), is because they want to be able to play Online legitimately with little to no risk of said hackers/modders joining the room and possibly ruining everything.

 

[Rdp616]

QFT.

I hope the hybrids stay gone for good I don't care what excuse there is for 'better sounds', or 'I've always wanted them to implement engine swaps', etc. It's never justification enough to break the agreement. Be thankful Sony isn't Microsoft, or there'd be a lot of banned consoles/users. And then there'd probably be a 'Why I got banned' site for Sony too


Jerome

I agree, people abusing hybrids should be dealt with. But the people just enjoying them in a private lounge who weren't doing any harm at all? As far as i see it, i use the editor to fix PD's screw up's, i.e. engine sounds, tire/wheel size and offset etc.

I have no agreement with PD or sony, i paid 60$ for the game, i do with it what i please. Glad to see some people are pleased so easily.. Pretty much why the game is in the state it is.. People being okay with, let's be honest here. Crap. The game is over the hill, and hybrids brought it back up for a second, (at least for my personal experience anyway) And now it back it's back over once again..

Sorry if i offend any butt hurt purists..

 

[starshipenterz]

GTP - 28% against updating
NGU - 94% against updating

not surprising...on NGU we were always the ones making the hybrid discoveries and tools to create them, basically everything on GTPlanet has trickled down from NGU users and if you look at the hybrid threads that were on GTPlanet the large majority of posters were leechers looking for handouts...either due to lack of know-how or from being too straight-laced and afraid of PD or Sony cracking down on them, oh noes!

 

[Mitsubishi]

I still remain on 2.12 as I love my cars too much..

Since I love skyline's - my fav is the R34, wingless, slammed.

And my Evo 9 Limited Edition Model (Yes, that is the name of it..).

Sometime I will update.

But not for a while.

 

[Davis]

I think the reason more people have updated to 2.12 than haven't (well, at least in this thread), is because they want to be able to play Online legitimately with little to no risk of said hackers/modders joining the room and possibly ruining everything.

I'm loathing updating, but I'm doing it anyways. I've raced/driven in 3 hybrid-friendly leagues and clubs and never once had an issue with "said hackers" ruining anything. But of course that's only my own personal experience with it.

I'm updating simply because I want to play with my friends.

I still remain on 2.11 as I love my cars too much..

FTFY

 

[1241Penguin]

Well, polls are usually the better idea, since it tells you which sides the voters are on against or not against, like here on GTP imo.

Toronado's point was that you can't really make judgements based on a small amount of voters because it does not represent the majority of GT5 players. If you were to ask, for example, on GTPlanet, whether GT5 or FM4 was the better game, chances are that most voters would choose GT5, simply because. On the other hand, if you were to ask the same question on a Forza-based forum, the results would be reversed.

 

[Wankelhead]

Where did you get that result from? Link please. And lol, a troll, really? I'm sooo hurt.

What result? The percentages? Maybe simple mathematics using the values from the polls?
C'mon man, stop with the trolling already. You're way past entertaining and getting annoying...

 

[DITCHLINE]

well the cry babies and dirty nascar junkies have won PD has done a bad thing most people done the update not knowing what it would do. here's what it is like for me I buy a pair of Nike shoes & put longer laces in them I cant wear my shoes to the club WTF PD I didnt tell you what to do with the 60 bucks you got from me why should you tell me what to do with MY game!!!!! FORZA BABY!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

Well im sure some of us wanted PD to leave it alone, but be realistic. PD is owned by Sony,and you can call and ask the geo hotz ( or what ever his name is ) how Sony feel about modding.Even if PD wanted to let it slide they would still have Sony to answer to, and unlike some developers coughActivisionsneezeInfinitywardcough, PD not only still care about the game after its released they arent independent.

Well, polls are usually the better idea, since it tells you which sides the voters are on against or not against, like here on GTP imo.

I dont get how these polls would be a better idea since its such a small percent like tornado said, not only is it a small percent, but there are also so many more variables instead of only not supporting hybrids for those who voted yes. Like prefering to play online or having 2 ps3s. Just because they voted yes doesnt mean they dont support hybrids.Its a moot point,until some one ask all 5 or 7 million players how they feel about hybrids, theres no point in arguing over it.

 

[TokoTurismo]

What result? The percentages? Maybe simple mathematics using the values from the polls?
C'mon man, stop with the trolling already. You're way past entertaining and getting annoying...

You think I care if I'm annoying you? Deal with it buddy.

To the others who replied to my post. I understand now, sorry if I didn't understand earlier, but now I get it. lol

 

[VYPA-SQUAD_Ace]

Dang, everybody seems to be on edge.. can't we all just sing songs, game out, and get along?

 

[TokoTurismo]

Dang, everybody seems to be on edge.. can't we all just sing songs, game out, and get along?

I wish we could, but everyone seems to hate PD for doing something right, or maybe some I guess. It's sad if you think about it. :\

Hmmm.

 

[Wankelhead]

You think I care if I'm annoying you? Deal with it buddy.

To the others who replied to my post. I understand now, sorry if I didn't understand earlier, but now I get it. lol

Oh, I will deal with it by reporting you and ignoring your further posts, don't you worry friend