Million-Credit GT5 Car Trading Ends March 3rd

If you fired up GT5 and read the in-game news feed this weekend, you’ve probably already taken note of Polyphony Digital’s latest tweak to v1.07. If not, listen up: the restriction on trading (or, specifically, “gifting”) cars worth more than 1 million credits to others has been temporarily lifted until March 3rd.

The announcement came in quick reaction to harsh criticism of the changes introduced in v1.07 by many in the community who were caught off guard by the sudden and unexpected new rules. This gesture allows players to get back any cars they may have “loaned” out to friends, and gives everyone one last window of opportunity to make some last-minute, high-end trades.

Head over to our GT5 Marketplace Forum now to work out some deals of your own – this will be your last shot at acquiring some cars without buying or winning them outright.

Keep in mind the other v1.07 restrictions regarding trading cars among yourself are still in place, so you can not trade cars between accounts on the same PlayStation 3. It has also been reported that even if you have multiple PS3 consoles in your home, they will be unable to trade with one another if both have the same public IP address. Good luck, and happy trading (while it lasts!).

UPDATE: Others have now reported being able to trade cars between accounts on the same PS3 systems with the same public IP addresses. You may or may not have success with this – give it a shot.

GT5 Photomode images by sixtoes.

Comments (137)

  1. Driver

    Where’s the Official list of 1million credit cars? Because i tried to get all mine back in but over the last 2 days that a couple of my <1m cr cars ALSO wont trade. Seems a lot of cars (20 or more standard) in the 960k range have a unpublished value different thant what is seen in the used cars. So no getting the Ford GT or Zonda C12S back… Buy them all again if they are stranded out there. S@#%@# You PD.

    I spent countless hours in GT3, again in GT4 building up my garages, now they want me to do even MORE with GT5, repeating essentially the SAME races!? Sorry no thanks… Somethings gotta give….

  2. LVolz

    On this trading note. I’m looking for online friends to have clean races with, trade/loan cars with and hook up for remote races. I’m at a level 29-A and 30-B w IA Licence. I’d especially like to get linked with GTP folks who share the same love as I do. I’m looking for clean racers and to put together a group of solid players that also aren’t too uptight. Let me know and hit me up at PSN “Sir-Real1” BTW that’s a number “one” on the end. Hit me up and let me know if you’re a GTP member and I’ll certainly accept.

  3. Darknull

    THIS>>>Since the 1.07 update i have been able to only gift 1 car a day between accounts on the same ps3 , before I was able to gift 1 car a day per account.

    1. PistonHead

      Because a 1M car is not the same as 20M car LOL, 20M cars are not allowed to low level players until they reach an high A-SPEC level. Expensive race cars are meant to be a reward for experienced players that put hours and have learned enought driving experience A-SPEC level, not meant to be traded to a first time player that can’t handle half powered cars and will use them with all aids to gain fast progression and easy money in the lower classes.

  4. DoggyB22

    Yet again PD makes another stupid decision on GT5. You might as well take away trading/gifts permanently. I mean seriously what is the point of putting a credit limit on the cars? Does anyone really know…… Its worse enough that we had to wait 6 years for this game to come out. & I’m pretty sure everyone was disappointed with it to say the least. They should of made the trading system better, not make some stupid credit limit on cars you can trade. I always thought they would add how many cars you can trade. Because lets face it 1 car per reset SUCKS! Worst of all now that we can’t trade 1,xxx,xxx cars we have to “hope” we get something good in the UCD….. LMAO right! I swear every time I look in there all I see is Civics, GT-R, Evos, 3000GT, & Mitsubishi GTOs??? Lets hope they make more 1,000,000+ cars appear in the UCD. Because how often do you see any of those cars in it. PD responded to our request with being able to save during a LONG game, now I’m sure everyone will be asking for this to be back. I mean what else am I suppose to do now? Def not able to sit in front of my TV & play endurance races for 5 hours? Are you listening Polyphony Digital?!?!?!

    Someone once asked me how I felt about GT5? I responded “A really big failure…”

    1. PistonHead

      The point is to not brake the game progression, easy to understand if you play the way that is meant to be played like every GT game in the series. Not so easy to understand if you like to cheat and finish games faster and easier. lol

    2. stoney71

      The point to the game is to have fun. What you need to understand, PistonHead, is that I paid for my game just like you did and I should be able to play it in a way that is fun to me. If I like trading expensive cars or even duplicating them then why shouldn’t I be able to. And don’t say because duplicating cars is cheating because it is not. Webster’s defines cheating as-To defraud;to deceive.n. A deceitful act; a swindler. By duplicating cars no one is swindling or deceiving you in any way. There was no rulebook that came with my copy of GT5, so there is no rule to break. That would be cheating if there was, but it’s not. I do not think grinding for hours on end just to get one expensive car is fun, so if PD doesn’t fix the game so I don’t have to then I will move on to another game that I can have fun playing in the limited amount of time I have to play video games. Also, I will not buy GT6 or any other game PD makes, because of the bad experience I’ve had with GT5.

    3. PistonHead

      And you need to understand that you are exploiting a non intented flaw that is going to be fixed for the correct game progresion, nothing new to anyone that had played the older games. If your fun is based on an exploited flaw then GT5 is no mean for you and doubt that you have previously enjoyed a GT game.

      GT5: The dupping car simulator. LOL

    4. Sandboxgod

      Thank god I got every race car I wanted before they released this silly patch! Funny thing is the damage has already been done and all they are doing is punishing any potential new customers who buy this game (because unlike us, they weren’t able to trade cars that never showed up in their UCD).

      Such a terrible game design decision. They didnt even think this through. Now people will have to stalk their broken UCDs hoping and praying for a rare car that probably will never show up! LMAO!

    5. stoney71

      I am not exploiting anything, I am simply using a feature (that PD put in the game) to make the game more fun for me. There is nothing wrong with that, I am not bothering you or anyone else by using the games features the way I like. If you don’t like those features in the game then don’t use them. However, I don’t want PD to take the features I like and use out of the game, but that is what they are doing. I should be able to play the game my way, and you should be able to play it yours, but PD should be fixing the many things that NEED fixing and quit taking the good parts of the game away.

    6. Detroit Iron

      Games with words are almost a feature of this game has well apparently ……..
      PD isn’t taking away a feature, they are fixing an unintended side effect of a feature where people deceive (remember Webster dictionary?) the system/PD into allowing multiple copies of a car to be spread about so that people don’t have to earn them the intended way. Cheating in other words.
      Has for the missing rule book, you signed it when you went online, allowing them to make changes to your game, block undesired behavior, and even take away your dupes it they want. Be happy they didn’t reset your garage and block you from online entirely.
      That said, i’ll miss it has well, but time to move on……

    7. stoney71

      I will agree with your point about the gift cars probably being used in other ways than PD intended, but I still say it is not cheating or deceiving anyone. Most people were very upfront that they were trading and/or duping cars. That is not deceit. It also does not break any rule, not even in the online agreement. So how is that cheating? They did not state that I could not trade cars with other people if I wanted. They obviously didn’t intend for me or anyone else to use the feature for trading or they wouldn’t be taking it away, but they didn’t say that. Why they didn’t think people would use it for trading I don’t know, it seems so obvious. My point is that they put the feature in the game for everyone to use, many people used the feature and enjoyed it, although maybe in a different way than PD intended and now they are taking it away. I think that is wrong, that is my opinion, and I would like them to let us trade cars how we want, not how they allow us to. The point is we were enjoying the trading and isn’t that what playing a game is about, ENJOYMENT ! GT5 is the first Gran Turismo game I have bought and it will probably be my last if PD doesn’t get away from MAKING me grind for 1000’s of hours just to unlock very few of the cars I want to play with. I am not saying I want the game to be easy or everything handed to me in a week like some people seem to think. I am saying balance the game MUCH better and quit taking out the good features, please. I think the trading, no matter how unintended, was a great feature. It helped balance the game. I don’t want to grind, I want to tune cars and race, stop forcing me to do so many hours of BORING stuff. Adding great features makes good updates, taking away great features does not. That is MY opinion, if you do not agree that is your right, but I think many, many people agree with me. That alone is a good reason for PD to listen if they want people to like GT5. I’m sure if they really try there is a happy medium somewhere.

    8. DoggyB22

      Pretty sure we can ALL agree that GT5 was a disappointment… I mean the game took 6 years to create? That is RIDICULOUS! Since its really no different then the last Gran Turismo. The graphics/sound really isn’t THAT good people… Just couple new features & more cars. Wow… All this updates changing things just shows how much PD failed with GT5. I mean if you have to keep changing/adding things to your game then that’s pretty sad. PD put certain features in this game & they should of done more research on them. I’m sure they had no intention for the gift shop to be what it became. But they put the feature in the game it what happened happened. IMO I think what it became is a lot better for GT5. It led to a trading system in this forum. Its helped many people get rare cars. It helps people get the cars that THEY want. Not wait for a certain car to hopefully show up in the UCD or online dealership… All of you who are complaining about duping obviously have no lives because sorry I don’t feel like playing 4 hours for just one race to receive one car then have to do grind all over again for hours & hours. If you don’t like people trading for their cars instead of waiting days for it then that’s fine. That just means you will feel more rewarded for having that car because you grinded for hours to get it! While others looked online for min/hours to get it. Having this trading system helps the people out who can’t spend all day in front of our TVs playing this game. But whatever whats done is done… I know PD has already lost many fans with all of the BS. So when is GT6 coming out? Or are we going to have to wait another 6 years………………

    9. stoney71

      I don’t really care when the next GT is coming out, they can’t seem to get GT5 right. Why would I want to buy another poorly made game? PD needs to fix GT5 or I won’t be buying anymore of their games.

  5. ilovecars

    what they should do for gt6 is give each car a serial number, some how make it work. that will stop all this

    1. Scpuritz

      Well it was good while it lasted i guess, and personally this is what i think PD should do
      •lower the cost of cars
      •increase the reward money for races
      •carry on with their “race save” idea
      •increase the trade cr. limit to 12,500,000 cr. because i think that the cr limit is mainly aimed at the 20,000,000-15,000,000 cars

    2. stoney71

      Well said Scpuritz ! ! ! only do away with the limit, I think it is plain to see most people don’t want a limit at all.

  6. ferrarikidoguido

    you were never ment to duplicate, its a simulator, running a car at highrevs, slowly sucks the life out of a car. Its real life and pd is just trying to get as close as possible to real life. plus all you duplicating people
    should have over 500 cars in your garage, should be no problem putting a few miles on each one after all you have lots of choices

  7. Jordan

    The new gift resturiction a rubish because no 1 can trade cars over 1 million and every thinks it is rushish and I no loads of people that are going to stop playing the game now and people will get board of driving the same cars so u are making people stop playing the games and I think I will sale the game becuase I won’t to trade car so the car restriction off please

  8. ilovecars

    you all need to stop whinning, blame it on the people who duplicated. the game was not ment to be broken. i play about once a twice a week and just got my x1 leggit. Felt so accomplished. the only poeple that are whinning are the trading duplicating kids.

    1. Control Freaks

      Uh, no. And being condescending is no better then whining. No one cares how often you play or if you got your X2010 legit or stole it. Its a VIDEO GAME.

    2. PistonHead

      Well said!

      Its a VIDEO GAME not a cheater wish list lol, haters moan even when PD fix bugs. so awesome lol

  9. Ferrari

    What an unfortunate and sad day it will be.

    Here I was hoping PD was going to remove the stupid 1 car/24 hour restriction… nope
    instead they’ve made the gifting of cars worse.

    I’m very ashamed of you PD, I wish you all would do what the community of Gran Turismo wanted.

    RIP GT5

    1. PistonHead

      What community are you talking about?? the hater community of xbox migrated players or what? lol haters

  10. KFM

    I’ve been able to gift them between my two accounts so far with no issues. Honestly, I didn’t even know that was a problem. I made a master account for myself after I realized with the last firmware update that my account was a sub account from when my friend first bought his PS3. So now the only way to transfer my cars is to gift them to my other account. Fortunately I had already gifted all of my cars over $1,000,000. before this whole deal started.

  11. Darkside_0

    PD has turned this game into a load of crap. Even though I don’t trade cars… its stupid that they did this. This game is extremely boring to me now. I’ve been playing tdu 2 and even though it has many bugs and its pretty much a broken game… its more fun than this game right now.

    1. PistonHead

      You sir like arcade games more! if you think GT5 is boring hope you never play any PC sim. lol arcade players

  12. SavageEvil

    I think a lot of people are actually forgetting that with every race your car gets more and more abused and after a certain amount of abuse it will forever be weaker than it’s peak form. This is why I was happy to have duplicating, it allowed me to have multiple cars, one for abuse and a back up for when my car isn’t as competitive anymore. Yes there is permanent hp loss, and refreshing the engine won’t bring it back either. PD needs to either allow brand new used cars like the Veyron, the ONLY used car with 0 miles on it, how do you figure that? Now we are stuck having to grind, there is no other way to get a new Sauber C9, Jag XJR9 LM or any of the old race cars aside from grinding for cash with a 20 million limit and luck of the draw, them showing up in the UCD. Yeah that is my idea of fun, everything up to chance and boredom inducing loop the loop racing. Paint thing is still by far the worst implementation and limiting us just makes it even less attractive. I have painted about 13 cars total, over 550 paints just knowing i will lose the chip makes it a pain to decide. Duping will continue as I can care less what anyone thinks, where is the damned paint shop PD?

  13. praggia

    Bottom line ? PD messed up big time….major fail is what GT5 is.
    20 million credits for one car???? maybe if i was 10 and started playing from dawn to dusk i could accumulate enough credits to buy ONE car.
    All i do nowadays is timetrials with the few Premium cars i have and thats it. The races are boring cos the AI is crap
    The tracks are boring cos well the tracks are boring even Nurburgring is starting to bore me. Sound reproduction is crap as well there is not one car that sounds anywhere close to what the real life version sounds like. Who cares about a premium mx5 or premium whatever amphibious vw really. Give me full on hard core premium performance cars? The Merc 190E DTM? M3 CSL? standard cars? the Veyron for Christs sake….what were they thinking. Screw the online part of the game. If the GT life mode is as rubbish as it is now how could i possibly want to attempt playing online. Also all the “GT Fagboys” you’re just fooling yourselves by declaring your undying devotion to the franchise. The FRANCHISE has screwed us all sideways on this one so PD can suck ‘nana for all i care. Fix it PD Fix it

    1. KFM

      Uhhh.. getting 20,000,000 credits is really not all that time consuming. I have two full-time jobs ( and a wife ) and have still managed to find time to get several 1,000,000 credit cars. Considering you can make 30-40,000 credits from races that take three minutes and are easily won, it really doesn’t take that long.

    2. But...But...

      Yah, KFM, but half these guys will tell you doing a few races more than three times is too much work, and the other half will just tell you that your full of it, and it’s just impossible without dupes.
      The only people I feel sympathy for are the honest traders with work ethic that can’t continue to market the 1 million plus cars.

    3. stoney71

      I posted this before but here it is again, something to think about; By my calculations, if you were to Grind Indy for 40hrs. a week (most full time jobs work about this), it would take you about 2 months to be able to get enough credits to “buy” all the cars without “cheating”. That is only IF you could get the cars to come up in the UCD in the right order and didn’t upgrade or tune any of the cars. Who in their right mind would want to WORK that hard and long for a game instead of PLAYING the game and having fun? PLEASE FIX THIS, PD and most people will stop “cheating”. We want to race, not GRIND !!!

  14. stoney71

    Real mature with that F Bomb Steve, hope it made you feel better. If PD would fix the game so people could play with the 1000+ cars they were promised right on the back of the box maybe they wouldn’t have to so called “cheat”.

  15. Steve

    I’m happy for PD adding this restriction because it will stop people from duping. So fk all of you that cheat.

    1. sumbrownkid

      Duping is not cheating…it’s exploiting a loophole is all…I bet a lot of teams in racing would classify things that can be called “cheating” by other teams as “exploiting”.

      I miss duping…:(

    2. Doh

      Tried a simular tactic in court once..
      “I wasn’t robbing the bank your honor, I was just exploiting the lack of police presence to make an express withdrawal.”
      Funny thing, judge died laughing.

    3. Anyone?

      Lol, Who wants to bet on the number of angry posts this will result in this time round?
      I call 300….

    4. Gameshark lives

      He’s got a point though. I love cheats. PC, Console, Trainers, or Mods. I’ve owned every Game Genie, Codebreaker, and Gameshark ever made. Cheats of all kinds have extended the life of many of my games. It’s my choice, just has it’s others not to. My only rule is nothing unfair against other people, or for online, because it screws up other peoples fun. And obviously I don’t hide the fact that I do it.
      Point is, if you want to use exploits and such with your games, that’s your right has much has mine, but own the fact that you do.
      No matter how you phrase it, exploiting a loophole is a way of cheating. If you can honestly say to yourself that your only cheating your own game, and not interferring with anothers, don’t worry about what they think, and don’t try to hide behind wordplay. “The judge” will see right through it anyway.

    5. stoney71

      Not so long ago, almost ALL games came with cheat codes built in to their code. That was so you could play the game however you wanted to, I am sad many game developers no longer think we have a right to play our games our way. Very sad, bad move, PD.

  16. stoney71

    As I said on one of the other forums, I will still play GT5 because I already bought it, but I can’t even begin to tell you how ripped off I feel because so many things about this game was so poorly done. I was promised things like 1000+ detailed cars right on the box. What they really meant was 1000+ cars (most of which aren’t all that detailed) that you will never be able to use unless you spend 100’s of hours grinding or trade for the cars you like but can’t afford. Now they tell me I can’t trade for any of the really good cars anymore. I have a wife, a child, and a full time job so I don’t get much time to play to “earn” the really expensive cars, so I guess I’ll never get to enjoy racing with any of those. Like you can even “earn” a virtual car? I don’t really understand how people think grinding for hours on end is “earning” anything. Thanks PD, way to punish the people who actually have to work 50+ hours a week to EARN the money to buy your game. Bet I don’t make the mistake of spending any more of my hard EARNED money on GT6 or any other game PD puts out. They need to get their head out of their a** and start fixing a few of the poorly done features in this game instead of taking away the only way most hard working people with a family and a REAL life will ever be able to “race” with most of the hugely overpriced cars in GT5. Hey PD, either drastically lower the price of the cars, increase the credits I can “earn” per race, or let me trade for expensive cars. I would like to be able to enjoy the game I paid for without having to devote my entire life to GT5.

  17. Jump_Ace

    Wah-wah…and it’s reasons like this I made getting my platinum trophy such a high priority, I was wondering if they would continue to allow such trades :tdown: How about now they lower the cost of the cars since we can’t trade them?

    Jerome

  18. cbabb

    The car dealerships should be reworked to remove the frustration of finding certain cars. Only premium cars can be bought brand new. And standard cars can only be bought used. Most of the cars people are after are the standard LM race cars. PD should make a dealership for all the LM cars where you can buy them without having to wait for that one car to show up, to not only realize you’re broke and now have to wait for it. Again. But kaz tweeted he is going to fix the endurance races so you can save mid race.

  19. Erik

    Well, duping was obviously never meant to be allowed so this fix doesn’t really come as a chock.

    However, now that duping paint chips will be nothing but a fond memory, I wish that they would implement a proper paint shop where you could buy any colour you wanted (exotics could cost a lot more perhaps) and not having to rely on getting a rare colour by chance or finding a used car with the exact nuance you’re looking for. It wouldn’t surprise me if the voucher based system is something that B-Spec Bob came up with one fine day when he was out on the track, busy redesigning yet another competitors tail lights…

    So a paint shop please, and you could very well keep the manufacture specific colours only for cars of that brand (like Alfa red only for Alfa Romeo’s etc), but it would enhance the aspect of making the car your own quite a lot.

    1. Greg

      I’m not sure why some seem unable to dup paintchips. I never lost that ability. Been generating Matt Blacks continuously for months, right up till today. Method mabey? Not saying how I do it, PD can read……;)

    2. Greg

      To be honest, i’m not sure what’s supposed to happen. This morning I was able to send 1 car and 5 paints from one account, but clicking on “recieve all” on my main account only showed 4 chips recieved. Even stranger, I got the car from car delivery, but it never showed a car waiting. Very odd, but it worked.

    1. GT_Die_Hard

      Lol me too!! :P

      The only ones i still have to get that are the most expensive ones are 2 cars just over 1 million cr. so no worries about that…

  20. Trevski

    Since the 1.07 update i have been able to only gift 1 car a day between accounts on the same ps3 , before I was able to gift 1 car a day per account.

  21. Hentis

    According to a tweet fro Kazonouri in the past couple of hours they are working on implementing game saves during a race, so the grind wont be that bad.

    1. Hentis

      It was posted around 5 hours ago on his twitter.
      Thats all I can give you i’m afraid. The rough translation that twitter gives you reads “Sorry, Save in the middle of the race. Now under development”.

  22. Niels

    Well i guess they figured the birthdayglitch out no more expensive cars without grinding your ps3 to almost unavoidable death. Well they have to do something because the competition sells a console every 2 years each time the garranty expires. PS3 are to well built to fry when you actually putt them off once in a while! So grind my friends you will!!!

    1. Charlie

      “Well i guess they figured the birthdayglitch” Its not a glitch when people are creating a hundred accounts to get free birthday cars.

  23. Duriii

    One quick question. I successfully send a car that’s worth more than a 1.000.000 cr. to my other account in Monday. Will I have any problem with getting this car on that account on Friday? I won’t be able to do that until Friday.

    1. GT_Die_Hard

      I think that wont be a problem, because you have allready send your car to the other one, so it’s on the other account at that exact moment.

      So if ou logg on on Friday, you still should get this car.

  24. Hol

    Have to say since the lockdown of trading and the temporary unlock, I’ve been sending 1mil cars between my 2 ps3’s at home with no problems. Unless this is yet another update on top of 1.07?

  25. ilja

    I started duping too…today! Tomorrow will be my last chance to do buy a car over 1 mil “for free”.

    I believe the one and only thing every body is pissed of, is that everyone knows, if i want to have one of the expensive cars, well then i have to grind!

    Except the very rear seasonal events there is absolutely NO real race to earn good cash. Only this race in the american champtionship, which i have to drvie about 30 minutes in order just to get 1 mil…and this over and over again.

    If they bring this restriction know…fine…but please put in more races that give you good money. The endurance races are crap. Sitting 2 hours indy for i dont know about 200k??? Ridiculous. Driving 7 minutes indy gets me almost the same credit!

    You know whats going on right now with PD…well if you’re not german will be difficult to understand but…just listen the first 20 seconds^^

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayHzg8oMvV0

    (for the non english: i make me the world, as it pleases me)

  26. GMW

    I can understand PD in that they want to have the more expensive cars rarer, like in real life e.g. you have to work very hard and have quite a bit of luck to own a Veyron in real life etc.

    I can also understand the video game player who wants to own the dream car in the game as they don’t want to or expect to be able to afford it in real life (house versus car purchase etc.).

    That said, GT5 is still a video game and as much as it tries to simulate real life they have to find a good balance on the difficulty to give even the people who don’t have that much time to grind away at the game a chance to own the very expensive cars too. Limiting the trade value is too little too late. If this was even an option it should have been done from the very beginning when the game came out because now you already have people with all the cars they ‘traded’ to themselves and those who are stuck with the grind for a car that is quite common.

    A lot of people play the game to get a closely simulated virtual environment so as to compare real life cars and their fantasy comparisons. To do this sometimes you need multiple copies of the same car but in different states of tune. Think one standard C63 with 457hp and another you create with the P31 option package (481hp) that Mercedes-Benz officially offers as an option for the C63 but is not in the game, then another full on Nurburgring special of your own invention. Now you will need to buy 3 x C63s and do the necessary tunes to them etc….. Now do this for another hundred of your favorite cars and it gets very very expensive and very time consuming when all you want to do is race and compare the various configurations. Hence the reason people resort to ‘trading’ to themselves.

    1. AGTFan

      You have a point but the negative aspects of duping outweigh this. Re your problem cash will solve it and Bob will earn you millions over night once he is lvl25+ and can do endurance races.

  27. Sebastian

    They (PD) are actually making the game worse than it already is. How much brainpower do one need to understand that to make a bad game good, you listen to the crowd who plays it insteed do the exact opposite? And Kaz is being called a genuis? I would call him mentaly retarded!

    1. PistonHead

      You act as if all the crowd playing GT5 were cheaters!

      PD is as retardes as were Turn 10 when they fixed all the money glitches found in its Forzas. lol haters

    2. GT_Die_Hard

      @Sebastian

      Well, i think that if they would only listen to the crowd out here in GTP, we would all got with ideas of: give us all unlimited credits and let all the cars be 1 credit!
      That wouldn’t make sense either.

      But, on the other hand, they have to listen to us because otherwise it would make the game unplayable for us. (such like “blocky shadows” that dont get fixed etc etc.)

    3. Anominous

      I don’t think the blocky shadows can be fixed, something to do with too much data the ps3 is holding. But anyway…the only people complaining is the people who dupe all the high priced rare cars and ruin the fun for everyone else by making cars not be rare anymore. They complain but if you think about it they made it happen because they can’t play that game how it was meant to be played. So well done you ruined it for everybody.

    4. GT_Die_Hard

      You are absolutely right, it makes those cars even less exclusive. If there wasn’t any duping and in an online match someone showed up with a Mar IV or a P4, you can say: Wow, he has got the money for it, but now its just like: Ah, there you’ll hav another duper again…

    5. Sebastian

      My comment was referred to the cap on price for gifting cars. I have never done the dup thing, to be honest i don’t know how. I’m not a hater, but PD has made a few brainless desicions after the game came out and has yet to make up for some of the bad descions they made before the game came out.

  28. DaftMav

    It’s indeed once per 24 hours per IP now, the IP restriction is new but you can still do it on the same PS3 with diff. accounts.

    I had just created a GTP_ account to get on with the races here soon as GT5 just isn’t all that interesting after finishing A-spec. Now I’m rushing to get my great cars back to my regular account and won’t be joining the GTP_ fun. Actually I will probably stop shortly after march the 3rd as I simply won’t have the time to grind and get all the cars I want.

    Like I’ve been saying on the eu blog post ( http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/02/28/gt-academy-is-under-starters-orders/ ), there should have been a proper trading feature, but most of all there should have been better credit rewards especially for the endurance races. It’s a grind to get even to one million so if we’d want most of those 1031 cars (which is why I bought the game) we have no other option than cheating. We bought the game with all those cars, and we should have a reasonable way of buying them all in-game. Without better credit-rewards it’s just not possible for most people.

  29. GD3tyrone

    i dont understand why my little brother and i wont be able to trade cars. it seems ridiculous that PD has to do that, what is the harm in trading between accounts on 1 PS3? is it wrong that i help out my little brother in teaching him how to play a game that i was playing when the first GT came out when i was his age?

    1. GT_Die_Hard

      I strongly agree with you, i got those problems too you know (and a dissapointed brother… :P)

      PD makes the trading and gifting FAR too limited for everyone.

  30. ucwepn

    They should have done this when they removed the save backup restriction, they let people get away with too much exploiting for too long. Its easy to make money with B spec and setting all your B spec drivers to shared will let them be used by other players and they will earn you money, not allot of money mind you but it all still helps. That last B spec championship in extreme series still gives you $1,000,000 credits just for flicking back to the game every 20 mins while you watch tv.

  31. SavageEvil

    Not sure what PD is thinking, this makes no sense to me. Prohibiting trading of cars over 1 million credits? Lame reason to prevent problems trading? What the hell is that supposed to mean, it’s freaking data, the credit amounts mean nothing as it’s only a tag attached to said data to give the correct credit listing which is pointless since you aren’t buying the damn car out of the shop.

    I don’t know about duping, but PD should have thought of putting in brand new cars with 0 mileage. Prize cars you win have 0 mileage and once you use that car, well lets just say you won’t get anything like it after that. I have yet to understand Kaz machinations sometimes, why put things in that the only other way to get that exact car is to restart the game or create another account and win it over again. My BMW 2002 Turbo, will only get driven in arcade mode(quit the game so you don’t accrue miles) and online free run. Some other awesome prizes I won’t even touch because I can’t actually buy them. Quest to have doubles of certain prized cars, to me that is.

    I’m pretty sure that this ban might be revoked in the coming months as it will seriously become a sticking point. The 1 day thing per PS3 is lame and now it’s supposed to be IP locked too…seriously is PD attempting to kill the fun themselves? To rectify this, we need to be able to win prize cars repeatedly. Just when they made the slough through the game bearable, they go and attempt to make is unreasonable again.

    How do you cheat in GT by getting cars trading? I still don’t get people who cry cheat, how is that logical? Some people enjoy playing their game by trading for cars for certain races, big deal. Not like by having certain cars online will all of a sudden make you the king of driving…I want someone to explain to me is getting cars faster through trading/duping is cheating? A real answer, none of that because you didn’t earn it crap…something intelligent to go with the illogical thought process.

  32. Sprite

    If I’m truthful it’s a shame PD have done this ban. But I think maybe SCE has more to do with it rather than PD. I don’t personally dupe cars but I did trade with friends. Especially a friend who is new to GT and is finding the grind difficult.

    PD & SCE need to lift the ban and concentrate bringing more premiums and especially more tracks and photo travel locations. So far PD’s efforts have not been best spent.

    Get your act together Kaz, because NFS-Shift 2 is on it’s way and looking none too shabby. (god did I just say that about an EA game?!?!?!)

    1. GT_Die_Hard

      Don’t be too harsh about EA. They’ve made tons of good games and gameseries and sold millions and millions of them. Not that they all were good games but still…

  33. Ringmaster

    It is not as bad as it looks like. If you have online friends, you can take some cars borrowed from them. I already shared online some of my best cars (not so much, I don’t like cheating).

  34. jables72

    HEY EVERYBODY !!!!!! if your pissed off as me about the no trading of cars over 1million cr. and the no trading of cars from the same ip address to diffrent users on the same PS3 ….. PD will remove those bans but …… we have to work together on this did you all notice how they temporarily lifted the trading of 1million cr. or more cars after they received ”harsh criticism” by many of the members of the community ? so if we all keep giving them ”harsh criticism” they will remove both bans we need everyone to be extremely harsh on them about this and the nastier and harsher we are the more likely they will remove them …… so now we know what and how to do the only thing now left to do is to do it !!!

  35. zippy

    Up yours PD. Fix the freakin 8 bit shadows already!!. Hope this is your last Gran Turismo, you’ve screwed it up enough now.

    1. fandens

      Maybe this is the last GT we will see from PD?. 6 years in development and this is what we get, that dosen´t make sense. Either Sony has fired PD for spending there money on nothing, and the updates are just contract obligations.
      Or they are working on GT6 (and have been the hole time) which will be released alongside PS4 in the near future and GT5 was just a last moneymaker for this console.
      But after having played All of the GTs i believe that this is properly going to be my last.
      Now bring on Shift2 and Grid2

    2. shazbotics

      @ Pistolhead?

      Umm not lol? It didn’t sell better than GT4, aka the last Gran Turismo (5’s 5.5M vs 4’s 11.1M).

      Typical fanboy reaction. You know that being a sycophant doesn’t get you any special favours with PD…

    3. MoLieG

      GT being release by someone else than PD??? Might sound crazy but it could happen… actually I want it to happen… since PD and Kaz have completely destroyed their own game…

      I really hope to see the shadows fixed… but… I’ve lost my faith on them…

    4. PistonHead

      @shazbotics
      GT5 is selling more than GT4 in the same time period. GT4 11.1M is a total of 6 year sales, GT5 6.37M(not 5.5M)is just a few months sales, wait until it reaches 6 years. Typical not so smart hater LOL

    5. First six weeks

      Title Units (K)
      Gran Turismo 10,850
      Gran Turismo 2 9,370
      Gran Turismo 3 A-spec 14,890
      Gran Turismo Concept Series 1,560
      Gran Turismo 4 “Prologue” 1,400
      Gran Turismo 4 11,190
      Gran Turismo 5 “Prologue” 5,200
      Gran Turismo PSP 2,320
      Gran Turismo 5 6,370
      Total 63,150

      If you go by the same period of time that gives you GT5’s 6.37, then no, GT4 got almost double. In fact, not including prologues, PSP, and concept, it’s pretty much trailing all the main versions.

    6. First six weeks

      EHHH, nix that, the guy that orriginally posted it labeled it “six week sales”, but it’s lifetime sales data……

  36. ShantJ

    I’m content. The only multi-million car I still need are the F2007 and the Team Total 907. And no, I didn’t dupe. I traded up.

  37. The_Seeker76

    Jordan, you’re wrong about not being able to trade between accounts on the same PS3. I’ve been doing it with 1,000,000+ cars throughout this temporary ban lift.

    1. GT_Die_Hard

      @bigburt82

      It’s just like duplicating, but then on 2 different PS3’s.
      So, make an account on both, and start gifting. You know the drill… :)

    2. Greg

      Your not supposed to be able to, Jordan is correct in that, but there is some kind of loophole in the system somewhere. I’ve been able to do it on a single machine. The only reason for it that I can think of is that mabey it’s because I didn’t link secondary PSN accounts to my main, or that the ISP or my router are glitching up sony’s abillity to identify my machine somehow. Even before the 1mil limit was lifted, I was able to send cars between accounts as long as they were under 1mil.

  38. Catalysis

    One of the major barriers to really enjoying this game is the ridiculous difficulty of accessing the best cars. Yes, I know that’s the Gran Turismo way, but this version in particular has too many irritating points where it’s tough, not to say a total grind, to move up in rank and make enough money to get the cars I bought this game to try out. It continues to gather dust, and I only revisit GT Planet in the hope that something new will emerge to fire up some interest. Such a missed opportunity.

  39. Good/job PD

    No trades under same IP adress…now what? No more than one driver with same Dni for premium cars? Wake up PD, the fact that I trade cars with my son on our console don’t make you lose money, the game is already bought. With all this new “rules” that were telling me how to play, I shoul have bought a X360 + forza 3 instead of Grind Turismo 5: The real driving frustrator that you cannot play the way you want and that BS3.

  40. ddl8

    too bad PD too bad. We paid for this game so we should decide for ourselfts how we utilize the game. And after march 3 what am I supposed to do if I want to have second over 1 million car in different color?

    1. Greg

      Form a crew, get a warehouse, make a car list/map out a strategy on a chalkboard, send out decoys, hit the city fast and hard jacking cars durring the night, and make sure your gone in 60 seconds…..Oh, wait, your talking about a game…..Nevermind, you didn’t read this…..;P

    2. Bernd

      Quit whining, mate. Your Bob can earn almost 1 million in 1hr. Here speaks the proud owner of 370 cars, among them many of my personal “most wanted” + a full 20 million account, so I can react if another precious one appears in the UCD. Not a single car duped or traded to this very day

  41. SHig

    Seriously? Cars won’t be able to be traded (<$1M) between the same PS3? Looks like I'll have to find folks on the marketplace to "pimp-bounce" my cars home. Yeah that's right, I coined that phrase. ;)

    Lame-o…

  42. James bond

    I’m pretty disappointed. I havnt got to play all week and probably wony till the weekend so bye bye trades. I was gonna get an f2007 too:(

  43. COOLfiat

    That in between PS3 trading is shi*, they need to delete that restriction. Me and my brother trade cars… now he owes me 250 grand in cars and parts, now how is he gonna pay me?

    1. saturn01

      Fire up your PS3 and make your brother race on your account until he has made up the debt. Personally, I’d also charge him some interest.

    2. COOLfiat

      lol ok… but still, what is with the in-between trading thing? Why does it have to be like this?

    1. Erik

      It might be because they are classic? A total of only six Ford Mard IV’s and three Ferrari 330 P4’s were ever made. Legendaric racing icon + rare as hell = astronomic value.

    2. Erik

      According to Wikipedia, there’s only one P4 left in original state, the others has been converted or crashed/scrapped/resurrected… (the last one is featured in Forza and is actually a P3/4)

    3. FLX

      For the XJ13, 330 P4 and the Mark IV thats no problemo. But the Miura for 20 Millions? Thats just redonkulous, especially since I dont give a damn if its the prototype or not. Actually I would have preferred a red/gold SV anyway.

    4. Control Freaks

      They only made a few Ferrari 330 P because they changed the rules the next year and made them obsolete. Lot of money for an obsolete race car that ran only 1 year.

    5. Idiot

      @FLX

      The Muira, iconic car supreme. Prototype version, only one of its kind. Is also the poster-car used for the advertising back then.

      Nope, I can’t see why it would be valuable.

    6. stoney71

      They are only valuable in REAL LIFE, give us a little bit of a break in the game, PD. They are just virtual cars we all would like to race with. It’s not like we could even afford to breath on them in real life. We should be able to afford to play with all of the cars in the game, rare or not.

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