question, Can you drift with a DS2 controller?

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practice makes perfect!
setup the car, use the drift depot to find some setup for the car.
Seeming as your a starter, try using stock cars running on N1,N2,N3 tyres.
Remember, no driving aids allows the car to drift and slide.
 
I wouldn't say that it's harder to drift with the pad rather than a wheel. You just need some practice. The trick is to use a car that has less grip at the back wheels than at the front wheels. So, I suppose to start with a 4wd car like a mitsubishi evo, a subaru impreza or an audi rs4. Choose a track with tight corners, like the autumn ring. Put soft sports tires on the front, and street tires on the back of the car. Then go race just as usual.

You will notice that the rear end of the car will start to slide as you go into a corner. Now, you need some practice to hold the slide constantly. In the beginning, you will spin out or not slide at all, but once you've gotten a hang of it, you'll get better and better. If the rear end doesn't slide at all, use the handbrake (the circle button) the moment you enter the corner. It makes your back wheels stall, and the car will be forced into a slide.

Now go and have some laps! :dopey:

Regards
the Interceptor
 
Hay honda009, Welcome to GTP.

First of all, yes it is possible to drift with the DS2. :sly: (pretty obvious answer i know)

Second: To start up a new thread, please try to make the topic a little interesting and more to the point, keeping in mind that most topics regarded to GT4 drifting on this site have been discussed many times before.

Third: Why not check out the stickies at the top of the page. Most if not all answers will be in there somewhere.

Good Luck.

Mr Lock DR. Please kill this one ;)
 
this will come across as having a very 'Specialized' flavour to it:

does anyone else see this???
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please... if you are not going to SEARCH for your answer honda009, at least LOOK at the front page of the forum for a half second and see if your answer is glaring you in the face.
 
Welcome to GTP honda009

Good luck with the drifting. I've just started myself and I'm going round in circles a bit myself (quite literally). By this I mean I'm not really finding the information I need to get started.

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone says use the search, and this does normally help, however I have searched and not found the information I've been looking for.

Questions like...

...which car should I start with?
...is a FR car better than a FF or 4wd at drifting?
...which is a good track to practice on?
...should I mod my car?
...how do I start a drift?
...should I use the handbrake to start a drift?
...should I play around with car settings?
...which tyres are good for drifting?

Most of these questions have just been answered by the Interceptor in one post.

The point I'm trying to make is that all the excellent information I've found about drifting on here does not cater for the absolute beginner like myself. It's nice to see a beginners drifting competition, and the demo videos have helped a lot. But I think there needs to be a stickie thread with the basics covered. A "How to Get Started" thread if you will. Images really would help, as most of the terminology can go over most peoples heads.

Please don't think I'm moaning or having a go, because I'm not. The likes of Swift and Boundary Layer have done a great job on here, and I'm amazed at their GT4 drifting talents.

Just a suggestion :)
 
^^ that suggestion is well recieved j8mie. Bt I'm one step ahead of you.

Yesterday I PM'd Swift with an update for the FAQ. There may still be additions to be made to it, but here's what I've got so far:


Boundary Layer


Must Read's for New Drifters:
How do I drift?
Drift Settings:
Car and Track Discussions:
Controller Discussions [DFP and DS2]:
Drift Photos:
Drift Videos:
Competitions:
Online Play:
Other Discussions:
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I think all of your questions are answered in these threads - I've highlighted in red the ones of particular relevance. But some of your questions are too personal to find a definite answer to, like the one about whether or not you should mod your car, or whether an FR is any better at drifting than an AWD or FF - but you'll notice that there are dedicated AWD and FF threads on this list.

oh, and I found the majority of these threads by searching... but I did have to call upon memory for thread titles or captions to find some of them.
 
Rome wasnt built in a week.
Kids now days think everythings gonna come them in seconds..
Im just playing around, lik everyone says, look around the forums, there is literally TONS of info on here..I still find a new and helpful thread every other day or so..


And its closed in 3...2...1..
 
not done yet :sly:

this is not to offend you j8mie, no personal attack or anything. I just want to prove how easy this is, so I'm using your questions as a convenient example. You asked a couple that were not covered as fully as others in my suggested revision to the FAQ.

So, I searched the GT4 Drifting Forum [titles only] for e-brake. I was shown 4 relevant threads - these two were among them:
E-brake
E-brake started drift....yes or weak?

then searched for stock in the GT4 Drifting Forum [titles only]. This time there were 5 relevant threads, this one among them:
Opinion on moddified or stock...


so... the seach button does work.
Oh, and thanks for putting up those questions that beginners may have. It convinced me to add te modified or stock thread to the FAQ revision.
 
Cheers for that heads up Boundary Layer

It's nice to know that the information is on here, it's all about knowing what wording to use when searching. I'll spend a bit more time searching :)

The funny thing is that since I read the Interceptor's post above, I've been drifting a Evo VIII GSR MR around Autumn Ring. Sure I spent most of my time slamming into the wall or facing the wrong way, but I've been able to get the back end out and have some sideways action, and been able to control it.

I guess we all have different questions, and it's how those answers are posted on GTP so that everyone can find what they are looking for. I'm thinking about creating a offline document which might help others with the basics of drifting.
 
j8mie
I guess we all have different questions, and it's how those answers are posted on GTP so that everyone can find what they are looking for. I'm thinking about creating a offline document which might help others with the basics of drifting.
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I couldn't agree more. A large problem I find here that significantly reduces the effectiveness of searching is the lack of relevance of thread titles to what they ar actually about.

Take this thread for example.... it's called 'question'
Say someone does do a search to try and figure out if drifting on a DS2 is possible [weak example but stick with me]. Well this thread may come up as a result, along with 40 or 50 more. But then there's nothing in the thread title to let potential searchers know that this thread is actually a releveant search result ...which in this case is fine because there are better threads to look to - but it isn't always the case.

Feel free to put together a Q&A/guide, whtaver you're thinking there - it might make a great addition to the New Member thread. A guide put together by a self-admitted beginner for beginners may hit home a little harder, and answer questions that more experienced people overlook or take for granted.
 
Boundary Layer
I couldn't agree more. A large problem I find here that significantly reduces the effectiveness of searching is the lack of relevance of thread titles to what they ar actually about.

Take this thread for example.... it's called 'question'
Say someone does do a search to try and figure out if drifting on a DS2 is possible [weak example but stick with me]. Well this thread may come up as a result, along with 40 or 50 more. But then there's nothing in the thread title to let potential searchers know that this thread is actually a releveant search result ...which in this case is fine because there are better threads to look to - but it isn't always the case.

Feel free to put together a Q&A/guide, whtaver you're thinking there - it might make a great addition to the New Member thread. A guide put together by a self-admitted beginner for beginners may hit home a little harder, and answer questions that more experienced people overlook or take
for granted.
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yeah i red your guide boundary layer (very good btw) and for someone who just jumps into the whole car\drifting scene it seems a little thick.. i dont have that much mechanical know how but from experience when you gave a visual that helped 👍 or maybe it was just me but the first time i came here and read b\d's guide i couldnt understand a word...:dunce:
 
honda009
i am a starter but it is harder with the controller or i dont kno wut buttons to press to drift
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press r2+x+down on the d-pad to initate DRIFT MODE
its a secret mode that only members of this forum know about that instanly makes youan expert at drifting and will let u slide around ever corner with ease


truthfully tho, it just takes some practice, im still not good at it yet but with time.....
 
nightwalker888
press r2+x+down on the d-pad to initate DRIFT MODE
its a secret mode that only members of this forum know about that instanly makes youan expert at drifting and will let u slide around ever corner with ease


truthfully tho, it just takes some practice, im still not good at it yet but with time.....
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yea i was going to point that out its not a sequence of buttons you press to do a special move like in street fighter or something but i hopes he reads the guide
 
My gosh when will these pointless posts stop being made?? I really think we need a noob break-in perios where they can't make new threads for awhile.
 
the Interceptor
I wouldn't say that it's harder to drift with the pad rather than a wheel. You just need some practice. The trick is to use a car that has less grip at the back wheels than at the front wheels.
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Not really the best way to get a car to drift... A car with neutral balance, and equal grip at all four corners, will have more predictable handling... Some AWD's and even some RWD's with severe understeer can indeed benifit from staggering tires... Although it really should be saved as your last option, when you just can't find another way to get over GT4's understeering, and traction coeficient issues...

So, I suppose to start with a 4wd car like a mitsubishi evo, a subaru impreza or an audi rs4. Choose a track with tight corners, like the autumn ring. Put soft sports tires on the front, and street tires on the back of the car. Then go race just as usual.
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Most AWD's in GT4 exibit heavy understeer, at corner entry, and durring acceleration mid corner... AWD's do not have less grip in the rear, either... Any car will have less grip in the rear if you put softer tires on the front... An AWD car with staggered tires will still have more useable grip than a RWD car with staggered tires... This is why you usually need a bit more power to drift AWD's...

Starting with a RWD vehicle makes a lot more sense... Although, if you want to just drift AWD's, then have at it... I find it's harder for people to go from AWD to RWD, then the other way around...

AWD's are fun... I've been known to drift a few of them... :sly: Yet, I still believe RWD is a much better starting point...

Lookin' good BL... Nice additions...

can i drift with the controller
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Yes you can... I've been doing it for years...



;)
 
Boundary Layer
...Feel free to put together a Q&A/guide, whtaver you're thinking there - it might make a great addition to the New Member thread. A guide put together by a self-admitted beginner for beginners may hit home a little harder, and answer questions that more experienced people overlook or take for granted.
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I've started on this guide for beginners. I'm not sure how useful it will be, but there's no harm in trying. Basically I've made a list of all the questions I had when I started a couple of weeks back, and sorted them into different sections.

The biggest problem with writing any kind of guide is that the answers are normally buried in a ton of techie data. So I'm working on a quick summary page as well.

Before I post anything on here I might get a couple of the more experienced folks to quickly read through it in case I've missed any of the fundamentals.

Another point is that a lot of drifting seems to be based on personal experience. For example I've found AWD cars much easier to drift than FR 2WD cars.
 
@ Delphic Reason: You're absolutely right, but if you give honda009 a proper drifting package, he won't have much fun in the process. Why not begin with something easy? :sly:

Regards
the Interceptor
 
awd=understeer
so far ive had the best luck with a 300z
just get every performonce mod and then adjust the suspension so the back is really stiff and itll practicly drift for u< just takes some practice to avoid spinning out
 
Delphic Reason
Starting with a RWD vehicle makes a lot more sense... Although, if you want to just drift AWD's, then have at it... I find it's harder for people to go from AWD to RWD, then the other way around...

AWD's are fun... I've been known to drift a few of them... :sly: Yet, I still believe RWD is a much better starting point...
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i couldnt agree more! i started off with a lan-evo 8 gsr, the transition from AWD to RWD was HUGE. the AWD would stick to the ground like white on rice making it hard to initiate the drift but easy to exit while the RWD was much more sensitive making it easy to initiate but was a hand full for me to maintain the drift and control using AWD techniques. i could NOT drift with the RWD at all when i started.
 
the Interceptor
@ Delphic Reason: You're absolutely right, but if you give honda009 a proper drifting package, he won't have much fun in the process. Why not begin with something easy? :sly:

Regards
the Interceptor
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Because you need to learn RWD techniques to be a good AWD drifter... RWD techniques are the basis for every type of drifting... There are no shortcuts... If you want to be a good drifter, just doing what is "easy" will not take you far...





;)
 
FaLLeNAn9eL
i couldnt agree more! i started off with a lan-evo 8 gsr, the transition from AWD to RWD was HUGE. the AWD would stick to the ground like white on rice making it hard to initiate the drift but easy to exit while the RWD was much more sensitive making it easy to initiate but was a hand full for me to maintain the drift and control using AWD techniques. i could NOT drift with the RWD at all when i started.
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It's interesting what you've said about how the different cars react to drifting. And which one people should start out with.

With my limited personal experiences, I've found that AWD is a better car to start drifting with, as it's easier to get the back end out, and much easier to control. Where the RWD car is just as easy to start the drift, but a lot harder to catch and control. Now that I've built up some confidence with using a AWD car, I'll make the switch to RWD this evening and see how I get on.

I'm currently working on a beginners guide to drifting, and my conclusions lean towards starting out with a AWD car like a Mitsubishi Evo VIII. I'll have to put this guide on hold until I've had some more practise with a RWD car.
 
j8mie
It's interesting what you've said about how the different cars react to drifting. And which one people should start out with.

With my limited personal experiences, I've found that AWD is a better car to start drifting with, as it's easier to get the back end out, and much easier to control. Where the RWD car is just as easy to start the drift, but a lot harder to catch and control. Now that I've built up some confidence with using a AWD car, I'll make the switch to RWD this evening and see how I get on.

I'm currently working on a beginners guide to drifting, and my conclusions lean towards starting out with a AWD car like a Mitsubishi Evo VIII. I'll have to put this guide on hold until I've had some more practise with a RWD car.
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It's easier to do this, and easier to do that... etc... etc...

This is the wrong approach... You should never start with what is easier... You should always start with the more complex, and the rest will fall into place... As most all AWD drifters will tell you, it is much harder to go to RWD from AWD...

Also, your idea kind of contradicts itself, because you seem to have chosen one of the more difficult AWD's in GT4, to drift...

If people are persistent about recommending an 'ideal' beginner drift car, the conversation may be more fitting here: What would you recommend as the best car to start drifting with?
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Indeed...





;)
 
ive been driving fr's my whole gt4 lifetime but im thinking about trying awd's to see how i do since i know they are capable of bigger angles
 
road kill
ive been driving fr's my whole gt4 lifetime but im thinking about trying awd's to see how i do since i know they are capable of bigger angles
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sorry bud but ur wrong :indiff:

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=73217

ForcedInduction
Yap, don't expect to drift AWD with big angles.
You can execute short drifts with big angles but for example, don't even think about going 45 degrees + when you're doing apricot hill turn 6.
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