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Trying to make some skins for myself for some of Fat-Alife's tracks. On my system some of his tracks always look faded to me. Need an opinion, did I go too far? I might have overdid it on the saturation and darkening of the textures. Any suggestions, like are things too yellow or blue tinted, where to add\reduce saturation, brightness, etc. Thanks for any suggestions...

No skin:
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Skin:
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mrtomcat66
I did improve my ext_config.ini for maebashi. Now there are more areas covered with 3D Grass. I did also animate the water on Lake Ono and the little river alongside the road.

I liked to drive the original track on Colin McRae: DIRT.
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Thanks, I appreciate your patience and availability, in these days I will try your work!

Yeah, I had Colin McRae Dirt for Playstation.. I was fan of the saga form the first videogame... too arcade but much fun!
Have a nice rally days!! ;)
 
racinjoe013
Trying to make some skins for myself for some of Fat-Alife's tracks. On my system some of his tracks always look faded to me. Need an opinion, did I go too far? I might have overdid it on the saturation and darkening of the textures. Any suggestions, like are things too yellow or blue tinted, where to add\reduce saturation, brightness, etc. Thanks for any suggestions...
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It's Fat-Alfie, not Fat-Alive... :D
But after reading your post I drove on a couple of Alfies tracks and I really think it's your system/settings.
As an example I took a screenshot at Fonteny (latest CSP/SOL, clear and _Sol pp filter, no other changes) which looks perfectly good to me on my triples.
I believe there are too many variables involved (system, monitor(s), CSP and SOL settings etc.) to have one 'best' setting for everyone.
It's easy enough to change some of the parameters involved (even a simple change of track exposure in SOL) without the need for skins (which are probably pretty time consuming).
Just my 2cts though...:)

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Does anyone have a link to the Imola 2001 the one converted from GP4
 
Fanapryde
It's Fat-Alfie, not Fat-Alive... :D
But after reading your post I drove on a couple of Alfies tracks and I really think it's your system/settings.
As an example I took a screenshot at Fonteny (latest CSP/SOL, clear and _Sol pp filter, no other changes) which looks perfectly good to me on my triples.
I believe there are too many variables involved (system, monitor(s), CSP and SOL settings etc.) to have one 'best' setting for everyone.
It's easy enough to change some of the parameters involved (even a simple change of track exposure in SOL) without the need for skins (which are probably pretty time consuming).
Just my 2cts though...:)

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I have to agree with you here Fana, my Fat-alfie tracks look like yours and I've never felt like they are washed out or need improving with track skins etc.

@racinjoe013 Have you tried a ppfilter change or maybe SOL or Pure need updating - i dunno what settings you have or what pc you use though
 
pugsang
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I have just tried the first option (a?). Downloaded it when there was still only one :D
Feels pretty good to me. Now I have to get used to not having that nasty bump right before Kelford Camtech Corner...
Will have the check the others too now...choices, choices...
 
MrB00
I have to agree with you here Fana, my Fat-alfie tracks look like yours and I've never felt like they are washed out or need improving with track skins etc.

@racinjoe013 Have you tried a ppfilter change or maybe SOL or Pure need updating - i dunno what settings you have or what pc you use though
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I've tried all things mentioned and his tracks are the only ones that I have such a faded look with. Thomson looks fine, but for some reason tracks like Fonteny, Bremgarten, etc. all come out faded. I actually made a ppfilter just for those tracks that made things less faded, but I got tired of always having to switch so I decided to go the skin route this time.

Oh yeah, sorry about the typo on his name. I'll pay closer attention from now on with so many spell checkers around here.
 
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Does anyone know where to download this showroom? Looking at the file name, its called "kzn_infinite_azure_ver_1.0"
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Fanapryde
This one ? https://sharemods.com/cmojrmbz5kdo/nr_mazda_miata_gingium.7z.html

This link gave me no issues (just downloaded it to check).

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No the big fat MX5 i posted up few days ago, he added lods and all sorts, I have it now thanks to a member here, my windows security didn't like it.
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Obviously a false positive but it totally stopped me from downloading it.

For me I like what EASY does as i don't care about my original links or whatever or who made what, I like though that he does add stuff that i can't at present.
Granted it could make me lazy as i know he'll add stuff so i don't need to learn that bit.
For me its a bit like that old tale of the Elves and the shoemaker....

But i totally get why many aren't keen.
 
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Fanapryde
... Just my 2cts though...:)...
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And now, mine two...

Since for me Fat-Alfie is a GOD making mods, I don't consider myself worthy of altering his perfect works of art with external additions, so the only updates that I install on his tracks are the ones that publishes himself.

In fact, if he decided to paint the trees pink it would seem perfect to me, such is my devotion to his work... :bowdown:
 
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racinjoe013
Trying to make some skins for myself for some of Fat-Alife's tracks. On my system some of his tracks always look faded to me. Need an opinion, did I go too far? I might have overdid it on the saturation and darkening of the textures. Any suggestions, like are things too yellow or blue tinted, where to add\reduce saturation, brightness, etc. Thanks for any suggestions...
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Fanapryde
It's Fat-Alfie, not Fat-Alive... :D
But after reading your post I drove on a couple of Alfies tracks and I really think it's your system/settings.
As an example I took a screenshot at Fonteny (latest CSP/SOL, clear and _Sol pp filter, no other changes) which looks perfectly good to me on my triples.
I believe there are too many variables involved (system, monitor(s), CSP and SOL settings etc.) to have one 'best' setting for everyone.
It's easy enough to change some of the parameters involved (even a simple change of track exposure in SOL) without the need for skins (which are probably pretty time consuming).
Just my 2cts though...:)
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MrB00
I have to agree with you here Fana, my Fat-alfie tracks look like yours and I've never felt like they are washed out or need improving with track skins etc.
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My take is that racinjoe is right, and its just that some filters like the stock sol and pure ones compensate for it with autoexposure (you can confirm this by checking the exposure level (e.g. in pp tab of pure config) on a fat alfie track vs a KS one, you will see that exposure is lower on the fat alfie one).

It's OK but the downside is that the sky and car interior will be darker at the same time of day/sunangle than on another track where the brightness of the environment is at a "normal" level.
Normalising the brightness as racinjoe is doing, means that the aforementioned is fixed, and that filters which avoid/minimise autoexposure usage (the point of which is that the sky isn't constantly getting brighter and darker as you drive in and out of the shade) work nicely as they do on KS tracks.

question for racinjoe, any ideas on how to make your work easier to consume? i'm never going to download and install all these fixes from RD, too much hassle. obviously "subjective" things like this one can't be shoved in the csp github without track authors permission, but yeah food for thought
 
ears1991
question for racinjoe, any ideas on how to make your work easier to consume? i'm never going to download and install all these fixes from RD, too much hassle. obviously "subjective" things like this one can't be shoved in the csp github without track authors permission, but yeah food for thought
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Basically stuff like this in extension file... that's it. You could do it yourself in 5 mins.

[MATERIAL_ADJUSTMENT_...]
DESCRIPTION = trees darker
MATERIALS = TREES_A01,TREES_A02,
ACTIVE = 1
KEY_0 = ksAmbient
VALUE_0 = 0.1
KEY_1 = ksDiffuse
VALUE_1 = 0.275

[MATERIAL_ADJUSTMENT_...]
DESCRIPTION = trees brighter
MATERIALS = c430c021.dds, fc3fa4fc.dds, bc5b29fa.dds, 9f7ee498.dds, b0c0d7c0.dds, 56ed511e.dds,
ACTIVE = 1
KEY_0 = ksAmbient
VALUE_0 = 0.525
KEY_1 = ksDiffuse
VALUE_1 = 0.175

[MATERIAL_ADJUSTMENT_...]
DESCRIPTION = grass darker
MATERIALS = GRASS,
ACTIVE = 1
KEY_0 = ksAmbient
VALUE_0 = 0.14
KEY_1 = ksDiffuse
VALUE_1 = 0.125
 
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racinjoe013
I've tried all things mentioned and his tracks are the only ones that I have such a faded look with. Thomson looks fine, but for some reason tracks like Fonteny, Bremgarten, etc. all come out faded. I actually made a ppfilter just for those tracks that made things less faded, but I got tired of always having to switch so I decided to go the skin route this time.

Oh yeah, sorry about the typo on his name. I'll pay closer attention from now on with so many spell checkers around here.
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That's weird that it's only a few of his tracks that do that. Maybe there's something in his configs that cause this. But as you said, doing it via a skin does mean less switching of ppfilters each time you wanna drive one of his tracks.
 
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MrB00
That's weird that it's only a few of his tracks that do that. Maybe there's something in his configs that cause this. But as you said, doing it via a skin does mean less switching of ppfilters each time you wanna drive one of his tracks.
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Feldbergring by FA has over 85 thousand downloads via RD.
The track fix extension with some colour corrections has just over 600 downloads.
Using some rough logic although not fail safe, granted.
If it was such a problem I'd guess those would be more equal or he'd of fixed it by now.
 
StoffelWaffle
Should be good to go once some issues are sorted out (like my guy clipping through the seat, man's a magician). Oh and the non-functional wipers but I don't use RainFX so it doesn't bother me that much.


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LM version was a right pain in the arse. Had to cut up the front so the lights would be visible.. And it's missing the glass mesh.

Should probably work on that next.
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i didn't expect that. the Group 5s are finally coming. I still dunno what Group 5s are missing still lol
 
safi hellie
Feldbergring by FA has over 85 thousand downloads via RD.
The track fix extension with some colour corrections has just over 600 downloads.
Using some rough logic although not fail safe, granted.
If it was such a problem I'd guess those would be more equal or he'd of fixed it by now.
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Well when I said "Maybe there's something in his configs that causes this" I meant just for racinjoe as they seem to be the only one suffering from this problem. Personally (and for everyone else too by the looks of it) I have never felt any of Fat-Alfie's tracks have needed tweaking as they always look damn good to me and the colours are always on point
 
Perico Lospa
And now, mine two...

Since for me Fat-Alfie is a GOD making mods, I don't consider myself worthy of altering his perfect works of art with external additions, so the only updates that I install on his tracks are the ones that he publishes himself.

In fact, if he decided to paint the trees pink it would seem perfect to me, such is my devotion to his work... :bowdown:
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ears1991
My take is that racinjoe is right, and its just that some filters like the stock sol and pure ones compensate for it with autoexposure (you can confirm this by checking the exposure level (e.g. in pp tab of pure config) on a fat alfie track vs a KS one, you will see that exposure is lower on the fat alfie one).

It's OK but the downside is that the sky and car interior will be darker at the same time of day/sunangle than on another track where the brightness of the environment is at a "normal" level.
Normalising the brightness as racinjoe is doing, means that the aforementioned is fixed, and that filters which avoid/minimise autoexposure usage (the point of which is that the sky isn't constantly getting brighter and darker as you drive in and out of the shade) work nicely as they do on KS tracks.

question for racinjoe, any ideas on how to make your work easier to consume? i'm never going to download and install all these fixes from RD, too much hassle. obviously "subjective" things like this one can't be shoved in the csp github without track authors permission, but yeah food for thought
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I'm also on the side that those tracks have a higher gamma look. But i think, its because of the better compatibility with vanilla AC. At the end of all this discussions its the ksDiffuse shader which brings big differences to the look of the textures.
So it mainly depends on the parameters of the sunlight.
But to bring more confusion into this discussion, just look at some photos of landscapes with trees and bushes and then you realize the green and esp. its saturation in AC is nothing near what it could be on a screen.



But yes, the FAT ALFIE tracks are brighter/gamma like then other tracks. But imo i see this as kind of a style, because on the other side, they are all very consistent in their look.
 
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StoffelWaffle
Should be good to go once some issues are sorted out (like my guy clipping through the seat, man's a magician). Oh and the non-functional wipers but I don't use RainFX so it doesn't bother me that much.


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LM version was a right pain in the arse. Had to cut up the front so the lights would be visible.. And it's missing the glass mesh.

Should probably work on that next.
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omagad omagad omagad :drool:
 
MrB00
Well when I said "Maybe there's something in his configs that causes this" I meant just for racinjoe as they seem to be the only one suffering from this problem. Personally (and for everyone else too by the looks of it) I have never felt any of Fat-Alfie's tracks have needed tweaking as they always look damn good to me and the colours are always on point
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Yep i was agreeing and backing up your point hence the quote.
Clearly thousands aren't clamouring to alter it with the config on RD.
So it must be the many variations of filters and settings at play.
Change it for one and alters another's.
 
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