Bathurst in GT6!

[TheDabbinDave]

Hopefully we will get both configurations, with and without The Chase.

 

[grashopper]

Hopefully we will get both configurations, with and without The Chase.

I don't get why people want a configuration with it out. Looks like a looooong boring straight without it. Like the chicaneless La Sarthe...just don't see it being as fun. Especially if the slipstream is the same in 6 as 5, you're just giving away first right before the last corner.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Yes, but you probably have some skill. There are plenty of people who are, let's say, less gifted at simulated driving, and will try to pass you at the most dangerous possible spot.

My point exactly.= 👍👍

 

[20B_4ME]

I miss the production based days too but I would never call the current V8 Supercars boring. It's one of if not the most exciting touring car series in the world. The cars are quick with big horsepower and low aero and they sound unreal!

Yes it's good racing but I still think that it was a lot more relevant to us mere mortals (and more enjoyable to watch too) when the cars were closer to stock standard. Most street sports new cars today are very safe and fast, why don't they bring the old formula back... So what if the Skylines were too fast for the other cars, it's up to the manufacturers to make better cars to compete. There would be a lot of more relevant new tecnology to be developed too that could be much easier translated to the normal cars we can buy...

Just as a good little comparison, back in the day everyone got excited when they saw a Falcon GT HO on the street after watching them racing on the weekend, these days no one really cares if a bog stock Holden Commodore SS goes by...

These days V8 Supercars is all about the money and I get that, it's big business, but that takes away most of it's charm when a guy with not much money could buy a car from the dealership, do some modifications on it and be a contender to winning races. That's also part of what made Dick Jonhson one of our nation's greatest racing heroes. Now days you need to be a multi-millionaire (and then some) to buy/start a team...

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I don't get why people want a configuration with it out. Looks like a looooong boring straight without it. Like the chicaneless La Sarthe...just don't see it being as fun. Especially if the slipstream is the same in 6 as 5, you're just giving away first right before the last corner.

Speed, that's why, SPEED! They put the kink in there for safety, not to make it interesting.

 

[05XR8]

Production car racing still have a following. Even Glen Seton still races in production car with an Evo X. It's that the category are V8's, in a touring car class. It would be more expensive to repair an R35 & E63 AMG production race car if you hit the wall at Forest Elbow, as opposed to an FG GT335. But, I get whT you're saying.This is where the category stands and itd up to the fans to vote with their/our ticket money if we want it to change.

TCM is strong and those cars have 650-700hp with modern brakes and fuel injection. The other classes in TCM also make it strong with the 911's and six-cylinder cars. Watching them rip up and down the mountain makes you respect even more what bravery the drivers had back then.

 

[grashopper]

Speed, that's why, SPEED! They put the kink in there for safety, not to make it interesting.

Does the Nascar avatar have anything to do with your hated of turns?
Kidding

Even though it was added for the sake of safety I think it does make it more interesting.
To me the fun is all about the corners. I don't think the track looks nearly as good with all those straight bits in a row.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

Does the Nascar avatar have anything to do with your hated of turns? Kidding Even though it was added for the sake of safety I think it does make it more interesting. To me the fun is all about the corners. I don't think the track looks nearly as good with all those straight bits in a row.

👍

I like original layouts, before safety became the mantra. I really hope we eventually get the original full layouts of Spa and Monza. PD can't go and photograph those areas. But I have to believe there are plenty of historical images and video, that PD is capable of recreating those tracks. SMS added the old version of Monza, unfortunately without the oval being an "actual" part of the course. Rfactor has the original Spa available.

Bathurst is going to be intense on top of that mountain at night!

 

[Froudeybrand]

Passing is actually perfectly possible at Mt. Panorama, in my opinion it's much easier than on the Nordschleife. There are more heavy braking spots in a straight line. Bathurst is also much easier to remember and has an easier to learn rhythm.

I've driven it in several games now and never had issues with overtaking.

If it is anything close to the real deal, you will find mcphillamy good passing section, hell corner, the end of the esses and that, I prefer this track over nurburg anyday

 

[grashopper]

👍

I like original layouts, before safety became the mantra. I really hope we eventually get the original full layouts of Spa and Monza. PD can't go and photograph those areas. But I have to believe there are plenty of historical images and video, that PD is capable of recreating those tracks. SMS added the old version of Monza, unfortunately without the oval being an "actual" part of the course. Rfactor has the original Spa available.

Bathurst is going to be intense on top of that mountain at night!

Yeah I do agree with you that they did ruin a few tracks in the name of safety. I would love to see a old Monza combined with the oval!
I really think the additional corners do make the tracks better overall though. Monza smoothed out ... I know it's a bit of a exaggeration but it almost feels like running a oddly shaped oval. It's just too ... Lazy for the lack of a better word. I think the little technical additions really help keep your attention. I love getting the braking zones just right and pulling out of those slow turns perfectly. It's just not the same when you are never touching speeds under 100. With the improvement in cars in the last 60 years or so I think tweaks were needed on those old tracks. What was a tense difficult track in the 50's is a cake walk with the levels of downforce they can run now.

Kinda funny watching the F1 coverage on NBCSN and one of the hosts said "racing drivers love corners more than they love going fast in a straight line". Seemed relevant.

 

[Punknoodle]

👍 I like original layouts, before safety became the mantra. I really hope we eventually get the original full layouts of Spa and Monza. PD can't go and photograph those areas. But I have to believe there are plenty of historical images and video, that PD is capable of recreating those tracks. SMS added the old version of Monza, unfortunately without the oval being an "actual" part of the course. Rfactor has the original Spa available. Bathurst is going to be intense on top of that mountain at night!

FYI, there is a pre-chase version of Bathurst for rFactor.

 

[Imari]

👍

I like original layouts, before safety became the mantra. I really hope we eventually get the original full layouts of Spa and Monza. PD can't go and photograph those areas. But I have to believe there are plenty of historical images and video, that PD is capable of recreating those tracks. SMS added the old version of Monza, unfortunately without the oval being an "actual" part of the course. Rfactor has the original Spa available.

Bathurst is going to be intense on top of that mountain at night!

The old section of Monza is still there to be photographed. It's old and poorly maintained, but it's still there. Every year the Formula 1 coverage has at least one segment where someone walks on/climbs the old banking.

To my knowledge, because a lot of the original Spa circuit was public road a lot of that is still there as well. It's still being used as public road.

Admittedly, there's going to be a lot of information missing from when these tracks were being used as race circuits, but the layout of the roads is still there certainly. I doubt that either of them would be substantially more difficult to recreate than any other race circuit.

 

[Nomadpt1]

bathurst looks awesome, beautiful and I can´t wait to drive the gt40 at night with the fov ajusted to away back then normal gt cockpit view with all the lights in the dashboard turned on . But I have a concern that I saw that they didn't annouce any new car and when I saw the r18 racing against the peugoet 908 of gt5 I became warried because what if the r18 is the only lmp car added to the game, I mean were are the aston lola and toyota tcs30 and still nothing new about the bentley speed 8 becoming a premium model

 

[Cosbuster]

I can´t wait to drive the gt40 at night with the fov ajusted to away back then normal gt cockpit view

Have I missed some sort of confirmation/announcement?

 

[G.T.Ace]

The old section of Monza is still there to be photographed. It's old and poorly maintained, but it's still there. Every year the Formula 1 coverage has at least one segment where someone walks on/climbs the old banking.

To my knowledge, because a lot of the original Spa circuit was public road a lot of that is still there as well. It's still being used as public road.

Admittedly, there's going to be a lot of information missing from when these tracks were being used as race circuits, but the layout of the roads is still there certainly. I doubt that either of them would be substantially more difficult to recreate than any other race circuit.

Assetto Corsa will feature the classic Monza track, laser scanned. You can actually still drive on the old banking, although not at full speed.



A lot of the roads from the old Spa don't exist anymore like that, rFactor 2 and pCARS feature it though, at least the '60's layout.

I would love someone to rebuild the real original Le Mans by the way, complete with the village section etc.

 

[wowbaggerBR]

The old section of Monza is still there to be photographed. It's old and poorly maintained, but it's still there. Every year the Formula 1 coverage has at least one segment where someone walks on/climbs the old banking.

To my knowledge, because a lot of the original Spa circuit was public road a lot of that is still there as well. It's still being used as public road.

Admittedly, there's going to be a lot of information missing from when these tracks were being used as race circuits, but the layout of the roads is still there certainly. I doubt that either of them would be substantially more difficult to recreate than any other race circuit.

Spa would be very trick to do -> A lap at the old Spa

 

[ShiftingGears]

I wouldn't mind if they didn't have the Oval, so long as Monza didn't have any chicanes. I don't see PD doing it though, I think they dropped the idea of retro tracks after they tried Fuji in GT4.

If they did include the oval, there was no pitwall, and there was no wall separating the two sections of track running side by side. I think that would lead to problems which could be exploited by players.

 

[Samus]

Speed, that's why, SPEED! They put the kink in there for safety, not to make it interesting.

When you drive a modern car on these older, faster circuits you realise why tracks were made more technical with more turns. Drive a modern F1 car or even any decent grippy race car around the old Spa and it's very boring, all but two corners are easy full throttle.

Same for Old Monza. You need the slower corners to make things interesting with modern cars.

 

[avens]

^Have you watched the movie Grand Prix? Thoroughly explains the appeal of classic layouts, particularly Monza.

I'd link a youtube video but there's no footage of the particular sections.

 

[Johnnypenso]

^Have you watched the movie Grand Prix? Thoroughly explains the appeal of classic layouts, particularly Monza.

I'd link a youtube video but there's no footage of the particular sections.

Monaco in particular without the crappy chicanes is a much faster and in my opinion, better track, than the current version.

 

[20B_4ME]

Production car racing still have a following. Even Glen Seton still races in production car with an Evo X. It's that the category are V8's, in a touring car class. It would be more expensive to repair an R35 & E63 AMG production race car if you hit the wall at Forest Elbow, as opposed to an FG GT335. But, I get whT you're saying.This is where the category stands and itd up to the fans to vote with their/our ticket money if we want it to change.

TCM is strong and those cars have 650-700hp with modern brakes and fuel injection. The other classes in TCM also make it strong with the 911's and six-cylinder cars. Watching them rip up and down the mountain makes you respect even more what bravery the drivers had back then.

I agree, Touring Car Masters is what V8 Supercars should be! I love watching the little Mazda RX2 catching and overtaking some of the 6 and V8 engined cars in the other classes!

 

[Nomadpt1]

Have I missed some sort of confirmation/announcement?

no my friend, I expressed my self wrong. I will go crazy if they announce the fov adjustment.

 

[Nielsen]

This was expected but still good news.

 

[20B_4ME]

News article below from an online Australian car magazine:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/254762/bathurst-goes-digital-for-gran-turismo-6/

Nothing new to note though, just nice to see that even the motoring media is excited with this release.

 

[sparkytooth]

News article below from an online Australian car magazine:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/254762/bathurst-goes-digital-for-gran-turismo-6/

Nothing new to note though, just nice to see that even the motoring media is excited with this release.

I like how they refer to the SLS AMG GT3 and the Alfa TZ3 as the SLS Black Series and the Aston V12 Zagato respectively

 

[05XR8]

I hope PD make Bathurst a 2 file standing start in all Modes. Double file rolling start or a single file rolling start wouldnt make sense. I dislike it at Suzuka, Laguna Seca, Daytona Road Course and Tsukuba the most.

Im also thinking, judging by the video, it'll be 24hours as it looks pretty dark if it were only a 12hour time change course.

Im also surprised only 238, 000 hits on the video. 10million copies of GT sold? I guess the other 9.7million people dont have internet.

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I hope PD make Bathurst a 2 file standing start in all Modes. Double file rolling start or a single file rolling start wouldnt make sense. I dislike it at Suzuka, Laguna Seca, Daytona Road Course and Tsukuba the most. Im also thinking, judging by the video, it'll be 24hours as it looks pretty dark if it were only a 12hour time change course. Im also surprised only 238, 000 hits on the video. 10million copies of GT sold? I guess the other 9.7million people dont have internet.

Unfortunately, there are multiple sources showing the video on YouTube and other sites. Which affects view counts.

 

[The Stig Farmer]

Im also surprised only 238, 000 hits on the video. 10million copies of GT sold? I guess the other 9.7million people dont have internet.

It's only a car game. And most of that number were probably bundled with PS3s anyway.

 

[ed24]

I hope PD make Bathurst a 2 file standing start in all Modes. Double file rolling start or a single file rolling start wouldnt make sense. I dislike it at Suzuka, Laguna Seca, Daytona Road Course and Tsukuba the most.

The Bathurst 12 Hour is a rolling start, and from what we know so far, GT6 is much closer to simulating that (GT3) event rather than the V8 Supercars race, so I doubt there'll be no rolling starts.

 

[05XR8]

True about the 12H. It would be nice to look at the "Mount Panorama" lettering as the camera pans the front of the grid before the start of a race. I guess it also depends if the default start is back in 12th or 16th if there's no qualifying again.