Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

[Jdm_209]

Do guys know if we can use a clutch in GT5... when using the controller?

 

[CoolColJ]

I don't see why you need to go to GT Auto to change between different wheels you have acquired, if that were the case, you would do that in your Garage/Tuning menu etc.

 

[superb16]

So it hasn't hit you that maybe just maybe, and this is a huge maybe since apparently only you on this whole forum understand english,, that at that very screen where you purchase wheels, you also go there to change to other already purchased wheels? For example you buy a few sets and you just go back there to swap out the sets. In previous GT games you had to repurchase wheels once you bought a new set but for once maybe PD decided to do something that makes just a little sense and let us have more than one set of wheels for a car. Certainly makes more sense than what you're saying.

Ahhh. I must admit I hadn't thought of this. I was reading "change" as "modify", not "swap".

Okay, your right. It sucks, but it's not a deal-breaker.

 

[superb16]

No way. Different cars need different offsets & lug patterns, not to mention brake clearance.

You can't just buy one set of wheels and use it for every car you own. That's just unrealistic.

If you think this game will be THAT anal about rims, you're going to be very disappointed.

 

[arvin charles]

Where did I say you can swap wheels between different cars? Please do show me.

Sorry, I misread the bolded quote below. I'm a multi-car owner (a 911 & a Miata) and of course cannot swap between my multiple sets of (already purchased) wheels.

So it hasn't hit you that maybe just maybe, and this is a huge maybe since apparently only you on this whole forum understand english,, that at that very screen where you purchase wheels, you also go there to change to other already purchased wheels? For example you buy a few sets and you just go back there to swap out the sets.

 

[Scotracer]

No way. Different cars need different offsets & lug patterns, not to mention brake clearance.

You can't just buy one set of wheels and use it for every car you own. That's just unrealistic.

Erm, you can convert most rims to fit on most cars without too much hassle. Brake clearance is typically the only barrier.

 

[lator-illa]

come to think of it, I don't think PD will go out of their way to offer us a feature where we can modify the specs of the wheel such as offset and width. I'm leaning more and more towards the side where we can't change the wheels on standard cars. sucks.

 

[YellowG1]

The only correct answer right now is 'we'll see if GT5 comes out'

 

[Morphisor]

You know what, Im willing to bet that somewhere there's someone at PD finding this big discussion due to some ambiguous wording incredibly entertaining.

What could be more fun then to write stuff like this to see what it does to a community?

 

[eSZee]

Dave and Aarron both have compelling arguements (read: points of view) that leave me still undecided. The quoted text in the screen shot could still be applied to both positions if we knew the context of the statement.

I want to believe that PD wouldn't sacrifice this bit of custumization, especially since these wheels were previously modelled for use in photomode in GT4, which is the presumed 3d model being used for these standard cars as a whole.

I agree with Slip that the unrealistic presentation of wheel choices allowed in GT3, whereby I could buy Oz's for my GTR and then put them on my Miata the next race was kinda silly.

So with the fact that these wheels are modelled and add in the fact that wheel purchases were changed for GT4 where wheels were bought per car (as it should be), leans me toward the way of Aarron's thinking. That the word "change" in that text is referring to physical properties and not to the method of wheel replacement.

I want Aarron's scenario to be true however there is really nothing in the screenshot to back up what he says. He's basing it all on his view of what he thinks the picture is saying as opposed to what it actually is saying. Let's throw out the whole "lost in translation" angle and take the phrase literally. There is a video of the SHELBY in the tuning menu where everything you can change on the car has a tab. Wheels, ECU, intakes, suspension, tires brakes, transmission. There is no place to alter the wheels in that screen, or aero for that matter, so that means changing the wheels must be done in the WHEEL PURCHASE screen, just as it was in GT4. Change wheels simply means swap for different wheels and not magically alter the offset, width, and size of OEM wheels. How realistic would that be after all. We've went from logical to unrealistic simply cause we want something to be true while the evidence points to it not being possible. We went through this with the standard cars and interior camera views. Same situation, same wording problems and the most probable and logical explanation was the right one.
Now let's throw the "lost in translation" bit back in and all I said could be coming out of my ass once the game is ours. If RYBAK could simply end what he started with the video all would be well again in GT land.

Erm, you can convert most rims to fit on most cars without too much hassle. Brake clearance is typically the only barrier.

Convert? If we're talking about same bolt pattern or universal bolt patter, there isn;t any converting to do. You just swap and hope the caliper clears.

 

[LITH1UM]

To me, the wording is pretty clear cut. Disappointing, but clear cut nonetheless. You buy new wheels (likely with an option to "equip now") or you simply equip a different set of wheels that you've previously purchased. In the context of wheels, it is much more logical to interpret the word "change" to mean "swap/switch", rather than "modify/transform".

I think the sticking point is the fact that it has been done with relative ease in previous versions of Gran Turismo. We cling to that glimmer of hope because it seems like such a trivial feature and for it not to be included makes no sense. Perhaps technical issues such as the way wheels and/or brakes are modelled/textured in GT5 vs GT4 are to blame?

 

[nello-C1]

I agree a video demonstration would put all this discussion to rest.In any case this PD's history of wording as of now I am inclined to believe that the rims of the 'standards' might not be changed.We saw this with interior views quite frankly it seems history will repeat itself here, no wonder they have been quiet about standards. Kaz probably thought the standards are a bonus for us but not quite up to todays standards no pun intended,hence the lack of attention to them.

 

[Chaker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i678XFxPuu8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGn_eXLI-Kk

 

[Tenacious D]

Well, now that there's a release date SO close, looks like it's time for a GT Planet embargo.

Assuming I can hold myself to it anyhow...

If I don't post in here prior, see you happy campers in twelve days!

 

[Prodigy122]

The only correct answer right now is 'we'll see if GT5 comes out'

You're absolutely right.. Unfortunately. Oh well, only 12 more days

 

[CrazyEyez]

Does anybody know if the turbo spoolup time thats once excisted in GT1 will be back?

 

[eSZee]

Does anybody know if the turbo spoolup time thats once excisted in GT1 will be back?

Well, wouldn't that be accomplished by buying different sized turbos?

 

[CrazyEyez]

Well, wouldn't that be accomplished by buying different sized turbos?

didn´t matter in Gt3 and 4 what i remember. full boost from idle when you give full acceleration. In gt1 there were a very long spool up time if you had the stage 4 turbo.

 

[kayman]

didn´t matter in Gt3 and 4 what i remember. full boost from idle when you give full acceleration. In gt1 there were a very long spool up time if you had the stage 4 turbo.

It did matter in gt3 and gt4.

 

[B13POS]

It did matter in gt3 and gt4.

I hope the turbo spool is accurate in GT5

 

[CoolColJ]

According to the car list the R32 and R33 Skyline GT-R are considered standard spec models....

So I guess mods are in for standards
And they also have visible drivers in them

R32 with exhaust upgrade and rims

R33 with big wing and rims

R33 with all the above, plus carbon bonnet with bonnet pins etc

 

[Luminis]

According to the car list the R32 and R33 Skyline GT-R are considered standard spec models....

Nope, the R32 V-Spec is premium, the R33 V-Spec is premium and the R34 V-Spec II Nür is premium as well. So this are most likely the premium incarnations of the cars.

 

[Wits]

I read alot the last days. I didn't watched the video's that came up (want to experience them myself in game). What I saw in the topics was the discussion about the ability to change your rims on standard cars. Is it clear yet if the standard cars can or can't have rim changes? Because if they can only be changed on premium cars what is the need of adding rim changes in the first place. Ok among the premiums are cars you would like to change your rims but most times it are cars from the supercar family witch don't need rim changes if you ask me. The cars that need these rim changes are the cars you and I drive every day. This would be my biggest dissapointment in GT5 if it is not possible. I could have been dissapointed about the track and carlist but I saw that one coming, but not the ability to change your rims on only the premiums. Does anyone have a clear answer yet??

 

[Luminis]

Is it clear yet if the standard cars can or can't have rim changes?

It's just as clear as the statement on PD's site about standard cars not having cockpit view was. It's pretty clear cut but with enough spinning, you can read something else into it if you try hard enough.

 

[Sapphire-Wolf]

It's just as clear as the statement on PD's site about standard cars not having cockpit view was. It's pretty clear cut but with enough spinning,you can read something else into it if you try hard enough.

You mean like everybody else on this site.

 

[Luminis]

You mean like everybody else on this site.

Well, a lot of people sure like to spin statements made by PD around until they get something they like out of it, that's true.

Too bad it didn't work so far.

 

[Chaker]

 

[regnar]

Here is a list of the cars that are full race modified.
Not as many as I hoped for.

Total 15

Premiums

# Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10
# Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) RM '06
# Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) RM '09
# Dodge Challenger R/T RM '70
# Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) RM '97
# Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) RM '04
# Lexus IS F RM '07
# Lotus Elise RM '96
# Lotus Elise 111R RM '04
# Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX 　GSR RM '05
# Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) RM '02
# Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA RM '05
# Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) RM '95
# TVR Tuscan Speed 6 RM '00
# Volkswagen Golf IV GTI RM '01


Standard

# Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RM '69 - listed by PD incorrectly in the car list?

 

[kayman]

To me, the wording is pretty clear cut. Disappointing, but clear cut nonetheless. You buy new wheels (likely with an option to "equip now") or you simply equip a different set of wheels that you've previously purchased. In the context of wheels, it is much more logical to interpret the word "change" to mean "swap/switch", rather than "modify/transform".

I think the sticking point is the fact that it has been done with relative ease in previous versions of Gran Turismo. We cling to that glimmer of hope because it seems like such a trivial feature and for it not to be included makes no sense. Perhaps technical issues such as the way wheels and/or brakes are modelled/textured in GT5 vs GT4 are to blame?

I'd agree with you, except for the fact that the word change had already been used earlier to describe modifying OEM wheels. So its not as clear cut as you may think.

The only way we will find out is when we get the game on the 24th.

 

[Icarus25]

I'd agree with you, except for the fact that the word change had already been used earlier to describe modifying OEM wheels. So its not as clear cut as you may think.

The only way we will find out is when we get the game on the 24th.

Where was it ever stated as fact that change meant modifying the parameters of existing wheels? It's not 100% clear-cut but it's more probable than your idle speculation that change means two different things. The only thing 100% confirmed is that we won't know the truth until someone shows the wheel change options or we have the game ourselves.