FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[stpatty]

No.

Thank you.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

I hate my races today. Manufacturer's Cup I was all over the place, causing trouble for ILOVENARA and ilovecat-k. I'm really sorry guys, it was all on me. Although I didn't spin them out, I did spin another person out. They were in a Jaguar. Deepest apologies.
Anyway, I somehow ended up third just ahead of my team mate. I really didn't like that race at all. Really bad performance from me

Haha, and when I thought the Manu Cup was bad enough Nations was disastrous. Again, I was all over the place after resorting last minute to the Ford GT. I hated the car and how it handled, but that top speed was just too tempting. Precisely because of this I almost spun several times, affecting many drivers in the process. Honestly at this point I'm surprised why I'm not in SR B. With the racecraft I've shown tonight it's only fitting I should be there. In the end, I finished 11th, once again just ahead of my teammate

There's another thing I really want to add but... yeah I don't think I can say it

So yeah, if you can't already feel it in my post I really hate myself right now for the abysmal performance and racecraft I've shown.

For Nations though, I qualified 9th, finished 7th using the Ford GT LM without stopping.

An Aussie in another Ford GT LM pitted for tyres, and he finished 5th!

One moment that I want to share is that, if you block someone, you have a higher chance to get punted off, as demonstrated by my blocking attempts ending up costing me by getting punted by a Japanese in a Viper. He left the lobby after the race without sorry...

Before that, I watched the Nations T24SS Asia/Oceania region stream by @Sidawg2 and I noticed three oddballs in that race, which are LMP_TLallave, mfrayyan and far_kew_racing, the latter of which I ended up seeing in the 2nd timeslot of the Manufacturer Series. One noted absence is saika159-, who is supposed to represent Hong Kong, but Lallave from the Philippines ended up representing HK instead.

hmh

 

[Lion-Face]

So yeah, if you can't already feel it in my post I really hate myself right now for the abysmal performance and racecraft I've shown.

Don't beat yourself up about it. Everyone has bad days on the track. All you can do is own your mistakes, apologise to those that you have wronged and learn from it for next time. The biggest mistake would be not learning from the experience.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Don't beat yourself up about it. Everyone has bad days on the track. All you can do is own your mistakes, apologise to those that you have wronged and learn from it for next time. The biggest mistake would be not learning from the experience.

Thank you for the advice. This is definitely a learning experience for me and I'll look back on this to further improve myself. It's just that I'm really frustrated that I've done things that I would shout and scold other people at for doing

 

[rono_thomas]

The beetle is the most regular i've found shifting 1/3 to half RPM bar and sparing tires but still at a good regular racing pace.
EDIT: Starting from the pit , 8 laps non stop

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Thanks.

No practice due to no time the Beetle got me from 12th to 7th easily on fuel with slipstreams had another lap left in the tank. Absolutely no problem with tyres except for turn 4 final lap, mainly because I was tryin to gap the ford that had just come out of pits and would eat me up down conrod, needless to say I held him/her off.

 

[Famine]

A-ahahahahahahaha Nations.

Qualified 18th, drove a completely clean race, finished 5th. All I did was not crash and not pit (Atenza Gr.3, of course).

Got from 18th to 16th by the time I left turn 1 (two crashes), got from 16th to 10th (six crashes) before the car in front of me pitted, apparently along with everyone else, which put me 6th. Then the leader pitted at the end of the penultimate lap and put me 5th. Slightly sketchy final lap on tyres, but the car chasing me crashed at the final chicane.

No wall scrapes, no cuts, no penalties, no contact, clean race, and 800 points. And I was rubbish.

 

[Krypton78]

Todays personal task:
Getting out of both races without SR drop down.

I'm so much off the pace in both tracks and training doesn't help. In Nations, I'm "best" with the Corvette, but can only manage middle 2.06 times. And, this car is bad on fuel, but at least stable on the chicanes - section.

The temptation for turning on TCS is heavy, but I'll resist. If I'm not fast enough, so be it.

 

[ZokyCRO]

Stream is on, just not sure what will you be watching today lol:

 

[kjeldsen]

Pure C field, qualified 2nd, went down to 8, took a penalty for losing the car downhill and crashing into another car, lost pride, SR and 2 positions, fair enough. My first race on a timer, i figured that 15 mins / 2 min pr lap = 7-8 laps when the timer runs out and it becomes the final lap. Was a little in doubt about whos lap it was. In any case, i figured i better save some fuel. Not everyone had done the math so that lead to some defensive driving, lucky for me it worked thanks to a tight track and a bunch of players that understand racing, last lap i went from 8 to 3rd awesome night.

 

[greor84]

My first recap of a race. Nations. I had practiced and felt comfartable with my Beatle (I know but I get along with it very well). I was confident for a good qualy time and I knew I could easily finish 8 laps without pitstop.
I used the fuel burn practice and qualified 5th. (after I had a lot of Aliens join my practice Lobby earlier I knew it was a good time for my skill Level (low A SR S, (1450 Lobby door number 17)
First corner all well, second corner I am just behind 2 guys going in side by side so I have to brake a bit more carfull and wham the guy behind me sends me into the wall and after I just recover he hits me again and spins me out. Now I am last with more than 24 seconds behind lead.
I just continue and just hoping to recover one or 2 positions. 8 seconds to next Position.
In the end I come in 11th and we only had to go 7 laps because the lead car could slow down to avoid the 8th lap (he only had 0,7 laps left).
The original leader had to pit in lap 6. The winner was the guy that was in front of me in turn 2 and 2nd place was the guy behind the crash driver from turn 2. I was done to 20 sec gapto leader. I actually had a chance of winning.
The guy that bumbed me into the wall had 0 Points in Nations. So being Dr A and SR S does not mean that you can drive good FIA races.
edit : I just checked his KP stats -> he droped to SR 68

 

[Lost Sheltie]

What a strange night. Did the 1st slot for the nations and I think it is the strongest field I have been in, was over 2000 points for the winner.
Qualified 12th, picked a couple of places up at the start, and then 1 guy pitted for fuel. That was pretty much it, not much exciting stuff happened - just followed the guy in front so picked up a solid 1100 points. Winner was a guy in a Lexus, think it is just a little easier to drive on worn tyres than the ford gt.

As to the manufacturers, wasn't expecting much as the VW Scirocco being FF meant that it was utter crap through the esses into the back straight. Got 1 average lap in and then got baulked a bit on the fast lap so didn't expect much. Got Pole!

Wasn't much I could do in the race as the 2 cars behind me (Mustang and GT-R) were just too fast down the straights. All I could do was sit behind and hope they made mistakes. There was a GT-86 behind as well but I wasn't as concerned as he had the same issue as me, a lack of speed on the straights. We all got to the pits at pretty much the same time, but the GT-R just saved more fuel and came out 3 seconds ahead. I managed to jump the Mustang and had a 1.5 second lead, until the end of the next lap when I outbraked myself at the 1st corner and let him back into the 1 second window and he got me the next lap.

The GT86 finally managed to get past me with a nice move around the outside of the banked hairpin, so I was in 4th on the last lap but they all had penalties to serve and I had none. Managed to pick up a couple and places, get 2nd and got over 1600 points.

 

[Lord Protector]

I got to Superstar 24 was at P15 and then sadly spun to eternity

 

[Cerebral303]

I'm getting worse. Today both races are my lowest points scores this season.

I would say, under the new penalty system people are perfectly happy to ram you off. Not my only problem, but a change from the type of racing in the first 2 seasons. I'm going to put in a decent bit of practice for the next few races. Especially looking forward to Group 2, but why only one race in the whole season? Group 3 dominates everything.

 

[Cabelmania]

Well, I was in the edge of losing my A+ rating, but fortunaly I will survive another day 1st I did the Maggiore Race, of course the Alfa wasn't fast enough so I finished 11th with 722 points But Mt. Panorama..........oh my, it was intense in a good way I'm not even mad that me and a german decided to go in the sand at the last turn of the last lap, it was a good fight 7th and 1298 points in the bag Also Super GT was there, but I will be probably a cameo in his video since we didn't interact with each other in the race

 

[PaMu1337]

Nations:
I didn't have time to practice, so just used the car that everyone was using (Ford GT) without ever driving it before. Turns out this car does not really work for me...
Qualy P17 (at least it's not last)
Race: immediately started saving fuel, so stuck around at P18 for a while. Lap 3 I adjusted my fuel map during braking, didn't notice how close I was to the grass, and spun out. Apparently that's a bad idea .
I got a bit stuck in the gravel (the forced off-road TC was acting up), and once I got out I was in last place, 20 seconds behind the guy in front.
Just completed my laps, but once I got to lap 8 (final lap), I found out that half the field had either pitted, run out of fuel, or spun out on old tires. In just that one lap I recovered from P19 to P11, just meters behind P9. If only I hadn't been an idiot when changing my fuel map . Still, beter than expected after qualifying.

Manufacturers:
Qualy P13. Didn't put a good lap together. In practice just before the race I set a time that would have been good enough for P2.
Race: Got a bit crowded at the start, and lost a place in the first few turns. After that I was doing alright, slowly moving up the order. I pitted one lap later than everyone in front of me, but my tires were just a bit too old to make that work, and I lost 2 positions that way. Got out of the pitlane in P8, but almost immediately dropped to P10 on cold tires. Eventually got back to P8, which is where I finished.

 

[4everdelayed]

So the Ford wasn't a good choice for the nations cup race. Pretty amazed how big the difference was. It was using more tyres and fuel economy wasn't great either. It was good in qualifying though.

 

[R10tz0r]

What a strange night. Did the 1st slot for the nations and I think it is the strongest field I have been in, was over 2000 points for the winner.
Qualified 12th, picked a couple of places up at the start, and then 1 guy pitted for fuel. That was pretty much it, not much exciting stuff happened - just followed the guy in front so picked up a solid 1100 points. Winner was a guy in a Lexus, think it is just a little easier to drive on worn tyres than the ford gt.

As to the manufacturers, wasn't expecting much as the VW Scirocco being FF meant that it was utter crap through the esses into the back straight. Got 1 average lap in and then got baulked a bit on the fast lap so didn't expect much. Got Pole!

Wasn't much I could do in the race as the 2 cars behind me (Mustang and GT-R) were just too fast down the straights. All I could do was sit behind and hope they made mistakes. There was a GT-86 behind as well but I wasn't as concerned as he had the same issue as me, a lack of speed on the straights. We all got to the pits at pretty much the same time, but the GT-R just saved more fuel and came out 3 seconds ahead. I managed to jump the Mustang and had a 1.5 second lead, until the end of the next lap when I outbraked myself at the 1st corner and let him back into the 1 second window and he got me the next lap.

The GT86 finally managed to get past me with a nice move around the outside of the banked hairpin, so I was in 4th on the last lap but they all had penalties to serve and I had none. Managed to pick up a couple and places, get 2nd and got over 1600 points.

I was that GT86, I knew your weak points but couldn't get past you easily mate! the penalties I picked up were from battling the mustang hard and picking up a few cuts because of that! good race, very clean

 

[Mikail Hizal]

What can i say about the superstars races today...

Nation's Cup: i had an awesome battle with fuvaros till my pit stop where i was refueling a bit too much fuel because i didn't know if we would be running one more lap. Because of that i joined behind coque and Adam and spun out on the punultimate lap. Could have been better i guess but still getting some decent points i guess...

Manufacturer's superstars race: Ah wait, there was a manufacturers superstars race right? Then let's try to enter this race with being the best ranked Nissan pilot in EU, P2 in general and with maxed out stats right? There couldn't happen anything weird right? Ah wait i wasn't allowed to enter this race for some reason... First reaction: mad... But still i wanted to see it in a positive way that maybe i can get more points in a less competitive lby. With that thinking i decided to wait one more hour even though i wanted to go asleep xD. I was able to enter this one (yay) but on the loading screen pd decided to give 5 players a freeze... And during our Q run one Person by another started to leave the lby... I was asking myself why but when i was ABOUT to finish my lap by crossing the start finish line i got a blue screen...

Man... PD, congrats! You are doing a great job at not failing to surprise me every time! 👍

 

[mclarenLB]

>Enters 8pm Top 24: Gets rejected even though 75k/99 due to it picking literally 3 75k British drivers at RANDOM
>Enters 9pm Nations: Bluescreen on loading
>Enters 10pm Nations: Entire lobby booted on grid, gets 0, literally ending my championship and any shot at a regional final

So yeah, this is over and I'm done, peace out bois

 

[bloodyboyblue]

>Enters 8pm Top 24: Gets rejected even though 75k/99 due to it picking literally 3 75k British drivers at RANDOM
>Enters 9pm Nations: Bluescreen on loading
>Enters 10pm Nations: Entire lobby booted on grid, gets 0, literally ending my championship and any shot at a regional final

So yeah, this is over and I'm done, peace out bois

What a joke.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Feels hard @mclarenLB ! Although points were not great anyway, we finished the race with 12 cars on track, got 1500 for 5th. But yeah, this whole FIA thing is a joke.

 

[mthomas_95]

Well tonight I think has cemented many minds in Europe at least that once this FIA season finishes in 2 weeks, our involvement in the game will drop back dramatically or even finish. Leaving a bitter taste in the mouth even for those who've managed to navigate the trainwreck so far.

The completely random choosing of players with the same DR/SR, I was on the right side of this but that's when my luck ran out. A special T24 rolling start bunched everyone up so any little lag was going to take out many drivers. Sadly I was one of those killed

Then Manufacturers, again great drivers like @TRL LIGHTNING missing out on pure DR related luck. Also, Gr4 should not be being used for top split races. It's a category by it's very nature designed for beginners and the races just descend into one great big fuel saving train. I and everyone else in the midfield lost this fuel saving train when the new T24 rolling start decided to start everyone 12th down at a standstill bumper to bumper...

No idea why we need a mid season T24, all it does is decide the championship at an early stage and makes subsequent rounds pointless. It would be like giving the Top 3 drivers at tomorrow's Belgian GP a 3x points boost. If Hamilton or Vettel were to finish outside the top 3 that would be Championship over and imagine the uproar .

 

[Famine]

A-ahahahahahahaha Nations.

Qualified 18th, drove a completely clean race, finished 5th. All I did was not crash and not pit (Atenza Gr.3, of course).

Got from 18th to 16th by the time I left turn 1 (two crashes), got from 16th to 10th (six crashes) before the car in front of me pitted, apparently along with everyone else, which put me 6th. Then the leader pitted at the end of the penultimate lap and put me 5th. Slightly sketchy final lap on tyres, but the car chasing me crashed at the final chicane.

No wall scrapes, no cuts, no penalties, no contact, clean race, and 800 points. And I was rubbish.

Whereas in Manufacturers I was quite good, but got obliterated by an M4 in turn two, then spent the rest of the race in amongst the most moronic pack of piss-wits the world has ever seen. Literally non-stop barge-passing, and actual deliberate divebombs from two of the drivers. I even pitted a lap early to get out of the way (gained six places that way), but it was to little avail as the guys from 8th-11th were as bad as the guys from 12th-16th.

Despite not actually getting any contact penalties myself, it dropped me to SR A - 99 to 78.

 

[GT_Alex74]

Well tonight I think has cemented many minds in Europe at least that once this FIA season finishes in 2 weeks, our involvement in the game will drop back dramatically or even finish. Leaving a bitter taste in the mouth even for those who've managed to navigate the trainwreck so far.

The completely random choosing of players with the same DR/SR, I was on the right side of this but that's when my luck ran out. A special T24 rolling start bunched everyone up so any little lag was going to take out many drivers. Sadly I was one of those killed

Then Manufacturers, again great drivers like @TRL LIGHTNING missing out on pure DR related luck. Also, Gr4 should not be being used for top split races. It's a category by it's very nature designed for beginners and the races just descend into one great big fuel saving train. I and everyone else in the midfield lost this fuel saving train when the new T24 rolling start decided to start everyone 12th down at a standstill bumper to bumper...

No idea why we need a mid season T24, all it does is decide the championship at an early stage and makes subsequent rounds pointless. It would be like giving the Top 3 drivers at tomorrow's Belgian GP a 3x points boost. If Hamilton or Vettel were to finish outside the top 3 that would be Championship over and imagine the uproar .

That is so true, I can't wait to go back to casual racing series with nothing at stake and custom BoP or one make races. That is if everybody don't switch to ACC or GTR3 or something else.

Fuel saving trains is not a category issue, but a format one. It's like PoDi WANTS that, to artificially make the racing closer. The Manufacturers calendar is a joke though, it's clearly weighted towards a certain group of cars, when the Gr.3 races from nations would have made this a bit more balanced I think. But yeah, that slow refueling with high consumption and tyre wear rates just kills some manufacturers.

 

[Cuber Tom]

No idea why we need a mid season T24, all it does is decide the championship at an early stage and makes subsequent rounds pointless. It would be like giving the Top 3 drivers at tomorrow's Belgian GP a 3x points boost. If Hamilton or Vettel were to finish outside the top 3 that would be Championship over and imagine the uproar .

And only letting each team race 1 car at random, so Vettel or Hamilton might not even start the race.

@TRL LIGHTNING deserved a spot on that race more than anyone else. He's won 3/4 of the official season and was p2 in the region before the race. @Slentom could have also missed it if another honda driver got his sr back to 99 and he's leading the championship and ended up winning the race.

 

[Tidgney]

Nations.... Well I was 1 of the lucky 3 from the UK to get in to the Nations Top 24 superstars. It's a combo I really didn't like, there was so much risk on the mountain for not much reward for the lap. I got a 5 second penalty for no reason what so ever at the start so I got 8th in the end even with others mistakes and 2.9k points which helps me massively.

Manufacturers well I wasn't even expecting to get into the Nations so hadn't prep'd a lot for it but why prepare for a race where your guaranteed to be near the back? Had some fun racing at least with a few guys and the PUG train in the middle of the race was hilarious! But group 4 does not belong in the manufacturers cup... The group is so unbalanced it's ridiculous. Make it just group 3 and I think you'll see a better championship because it's at least a bit more balanced!

With regards to the top 24 though, it really shouldn't exist until maybe the last round if they really want 1... Or even after the championship as a demo of the top 24. The fact it's deciding championships this early on is ridiculous to be honest. Make it a media slot if you want to cover the championship then people have a choice, don't make it decide an entire championship. The fact DR was the basis AND there's a cap doesn't help, 5+ UK guys (No idea of the exact number, think it's closer to 10) have it all cap'd and there's no information on choice after that is also silly as it means they then can't attend other slots due to the length of those particular events. If there's no Cap it makes a tiny bit more sense, still I don't think Top 24 should exist period.

Thanks for everyone tuning in to the stream, always fun as always and as we said on there, the PUG Train was fantastically hilarious !

 

[mthomas_95]

Fuel saving trains is not a category issue, but a format one. It's like PoDi WANTS that, to artificially make the racing closer.

True, it's just probably a bit more obvious in Gr4 as the cars are 'easier' to drive so people are making less mistakes, or the consequences for a mistake aren't that high. Gr3 it happens a lot on power tracks thanks to the OP slipstream. I was able in Tokyo just to sit 2nd the entire first stint and short shift to death, also knowing the guys behind were just out of slipstream and could do nothing.

They probably did that new rolling start to 'improve the show'. All it did at Bathurst though was take out the 3 best non-Ford drivers

 

[GT_Alex74]

Yeah, about that rolling start thing, had a similar thing happen in non top 24 Manufacturers tonight, starting 10th, my car nearly stops for no reason, got overtook by 3 cars before the start/finish line (only for them to fail miserably into T1).

Also, for me it is actually harder to fuel save in Gr.4, mainly due to the Mazda being horribly slow there on a stint. The Gr.3 can survive thanks to it's great agility, I can catch up to most people in technical parts. But yeah they had to put Tokyo and Monza in Gr.3...

 

[RZQSPEED]

I feel really sorry for those who complained about the T24SS, blue screens, disconnects, and a few other problems...

Oh and about the Group 4 and Group 1 category, it should be divided into subclasses or just leave the tyre wear at 1x all the time to help manufacturers who have FWD cars for Gr.4 and the Group C prototypes in Gr.1.

I think to be honest, they should not mess with tyre wear and fuel consumption and leave it at 1x, then introduce different compounds of tyres, and make the races longer. Also, they need to fix the random blue screens...

Oh and the T24SS should be Points based instead of this DR lottery in terms of matchmaking (although there will be less oddballs joining in the T24SS). Or at least just have Media Slots for the mid season races and a T24SS at the final round.

And one question for @Tidgney here; why you chose to use your old name for the GT World Tour and your Twitter account, while you have your new name on your PSN? Should it be just either Martin Hefferon Grady or Martin Grady Hefferon? There is a middle name box in the Name settings on the Account Management section.

 

[Matty28]

The biggest thing they need do with gr4 is make them all RWD. Its ridiculous how with the Lancer I can win at Tsukuba no problem but at maggiore and several other circuits I am literally at the back of the grid. This causes cars to simply be too different and it is impossible to BoP it away.