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That worked out well. Qualy and started on RH. Got up to 2nd for a lap. Pitted Lap 11 for RMs and brought it home.
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Someone was telling me to start on RM. Why? I was faster on RH, than players that qualified behind me. Plus, I did a 7 lap run during qualy. So, I knew how far I could go on RH.
 


Highlight of the Nismo event, winning my class, even though I almost gave it away...

Thank you all for the support over the year. It has been a very humbling experience and I appreciate everyone who has followed my link and watched even a little of my streams over the year. I am very grateful for the support. Onto 2020! :D
 
I almost feel prepared for Nations tonight! (If a little tender from a night of indulgence and celebration!). A massive issue is potentially going to be getting stuck behind slower cars, it's so difficult to close the gap to be close enough to overtake even if you're 1s a lap faster.

Anyway the strategy is in place, there's some versatility in it, I've actually done proper testing! Just need to qualify near the front and then try to avoid errors...

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Schedule for Exhibition Season 3

If those dates are correct then Nations is Tuesday & Saturday with Manufacturers on Wednesday & Sunday! That's a crap move by PD if it is, I am hoping they have messed up the dates and it will still all be Wed's & Sat's otherwise I doubt I'll be able to do both like I always have :(
 
Laguna Seca is great with group 4. Was pretty scrappy and shouldve won second split but got punted at the corkscrew on lap 15 by someone who finished the race without running the hard tyres
 
This is my first YouTube video. I have my opinion, but I wanted to see if people thought these two moves were fair or not - both the overtaking attempt and the defense of it.

0:22 - Lap 16 attempt which I had to back out of
1:02 - Lap 17 incident with penalty



Iv watched the video a few times and this is my thoughts.

I'd say on both occasions the Aston Martin driver has conveyed there intention to go defensive and defend the inside line on the left. The nature of the circuit makes it look like they start to leave door open as track curves left but they dont make any sudden blocking moves in my opinion. It's very defensive but I'd say within rules.

As for the overtaking move. Overtaking in turn one at Laguna Seca is very difficult as again the nature of the double left means drivers can an will take very different lines and braking points. With that being the case I think you at least need some kind of overlap going into the braking zone to attempt a move and you didnt have that on either occasion.

To me its looks like you misread the situation on the second attempt and ran into the back of them, obviously no malice in the move but prob a justified penalty

Just my 2 pence worth opinion and for the record iv been there and done it. Thought a driver had pulled an unfair move and been peeved off then watched replay and had my mind changed
 
This is exactly my plan too. Only if I qualify top 5 I might start on mediums, but that's very unlikely :lol:

Same here, and also very doubtful. :lol: Mediums are such a waste on this car, the fronts are toast after 3 laps. I can’t wait to switch after this season.
 
So I managed to buy PS+ which meant I'm going full time now for Sport Mode races. And I'm glad I was able to buy a 3 month sub since it's been a long time since I last did a FIA race and here I am coming back to do some FIA races.

I was very pleased as to how I managed to perform in the Manufacturers Race. It exceeded my expectations because going in to the race I was expecting at least a top 5 finish but a podium finish just made it even sweeter.

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Nice way to come back after a 10 month hiatus.
 
So I managed to buy PS+ which meant I'm going full time now for Sport Mode races. And I'm glad I was able to buy a 3 month sub since it's been a long time since I last did a FIA race and here I am coming back to do some FIA races.

I was very pleased as to how I managed to perform in the Manufacturers Race. It exceeded my expectations because going in to the race I was expecting at least a top 5 finish but a podium finish just made it even sweeter.

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Nice way to come back after a 10 month hiatus.

Welcome back!!
 
Nations: Up 13 spots after a poor qualifying and a couple of penalties for being crashed into on the few laps, recovered to 7th on lap 19 and picked up 3 spots on the last lap due to them all getting big penalties. Toyota TS050 was a good pick with a one stop on lap 10 for the hards. Short shifted for 6 laps at the start of the race and I was good for fuel from there on out.

Manufacturers: Spotted a guy in a Mustang using one of liveries which was cool and did a poor job of qualifying as usual in 17th again. Started on hards and nothing really happened until lap 8 where I was printed of by someone coming out the pits and lost about 5 seconds which screwed me over completely for my second stint on the mediums and would have been on the back of another group on front but oh well. Finished 14th 3 positions up so that's something at least.

Definitely not going with Ferrari again as the group 3 car is useless with a DS4.
 
Choosing a car for fia is a real lottery. I hate my lambo gr4 this time. Horrible on tyre wear and a monster of understeer.
PD is not trying to make a good bop.
Only for the big same brands. Renault gr4 and gr3 are flying lately ..
I will not do the same mistake again.
 
Nations: Up 13 spots after a poor qualifying and a couple of penalties for being crashed into on the few laps, recovered to 7th on lap 19 and picked up 3 spots on the last lap due to them all getting big penalties. Toyota TS050 was a good pick with a one stop on lap 10 for the hards. Short shifted for 6 laps at the start of the race and I was good for fuel from there on out.

Manufacturers: Spotted a guy in a Mustang using one of liveries which was cool and did a poor job of qualifying as usual in 17th again. Started on hards and nothing really happened until lap 8 where I was printed of by someone coming out the pits and lost about 5 seconds which screwed me over completely for my second stint on the mediums and would have been on the back of another group on front but oh well. Finished 14th 3 positions up so that's something at least.

Definitely not going with Ferrari again as the group 3 car is useless with a DS4.
And even with a wheel the GR 3 Ferrari can still be a handful. I chose them my first FIA season and after a few laps, it felt like all of my concentration had to be placed on keeping the car from spinning.
 
Initially sought to use the 919 for Nations, but found the TS050 much easier to drive in FP and decided to stick with it for test lobbies.

17:00 race (with @Lost Sheltie) was essentially a one-make Toyota lobby; the only opposition came from three Audi R18s. Conserving battery energy on qualifying out laps was easy, but getting through the kink without hitting the barrier was another matter. Pitted twice for Mediums to ensure I wouldn't be caught out by tyre wear, but had a big shunt after exiting the pits the second time. Turned my hazard lights on and stayed to the right on the run to the first corner, but did not anticipate a fellow Toyota rapidly approaching in my rear-view mirror and following me to the right on what I assumed was a flying lap. Had to swerve into the gravel, but couldn't avoid getting rammed from behind before crawling my way back onto the track. Had enough time to get another lap started, eventually clocking a 1:26.878 to start 4th.

In practice lobbies, I found that the Toyota could easily manage a one-stop, so decided to carry out the same strategy here. Despite early pressure from a fellow UK player, the race turned out to be very straightforward. Follow the top three, look after the tyres/fuel/battery, and keep out of the barriers at all costs. There were a few instances where I made minor mistakes - including two offs at the kink - but overall I was really satisfied with my consistency, putting in regular 1:27 and 1:28 laps while gaining as much as 3.2 laps' worth of fuel by the time of my stop at Lap 10. The only other real issue I had was trying to refil the battery meter after the stop, which compromised my pace somewhat along with a messy run through the kink on my out lap. The 5th-placed Toyota gets a better run coming to the final corner, and sweeps round the outside of me as I try to stick to the inside to avoid contact.

From that point onwards, it was a case of bringing the car home in one piece. That being said, I wasn't far off the Audi and Toyota in 3rd and 4th respectively, and my early fuel saving allowed me to take more liberties with higher revving and lower fuel mixes as the stint went on. I hadn't realised this until the end, but the Audi had not taken on Hards at the time of his stop, which improved my chances of regaining my starting position considerably. Having set another string of consistent high-1:27s, I witness on the penultimate lap the 4th-placed Toyota lighting his rears up coming out of turn 9. He slides into the barriers, allowing me to retake the place and head for home. Only after hounding the Audi to the line did I learn of his grave mistake; the resulting 20-second penalty instantly promoted me to 3rd place and a season-high score of 246 points.

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I returned to Sardegna with low expectations, but despite a few rough patches and the feeling that the Toyota is getting a little too common in Gr.1, this was an especially great way to round off Nations for the season. Time will tell what the 21:00 Manufacturers has in store...
 
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This is my first YouTube video. I have my opinion, but I wanted to see if people thought these two moves were fair or not - both the overtaking attempt and the defense of it.

0:22 - Lap 16 attempt which I had to back out of
1:02 - Lap 17 incident with penalty



First incident was borderline, he commits to the move before the braking zone just, but I feel too late. Didn't telegraph it until late on the straight. But there was distance between you two so fine, no harm in that one.

2nd one he changed direction after braking had started. You were already committed, he hadn't closed the door properly, you saw an opportunity and then he reacts. Entirely his fault.

To be fair though, an easy mistake to make from him, and one I have done. In the heat of the moment you feel you have closed the door only to realise too late that you haven't and you readjust. Not necessarily reacting to the driver behind, but to your own error, which looks like your reacting to the driver behind.

So, for sure, he is in the wrong in thay case, but easy mistake to make and one reason I check back on my replays and defensive lines, make sure I telegraph my intentions early and commit to lines, not changing in braking zone. It is hard to commit to in the moment and you want to squeeze every inch of track to the limit, so these things happen. I am certainly not innocent in these situations in the past but I do try to learn and really close doors early.
 
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2nd one he changed direction after braking had started. You were already committed, he hadn't closed the door properly, you saw an opportunity and then he reacts. Entirely his fault.
This is why the game needs clear rules. To me, the car ahead is pointed at the apex, and the car behind has no overlap never mind the required half a car of overlap. The car ahead is therefore 100% entitled to the racing line from its current position to the apex. 100% the fault of the car behind.

The only way to say which of our assessments is correct is for the game to have defined rules. I'm basing my assessment on this, but there is nothing to say these are the rules that apply to GT Sport:
https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/08/28/the-rules-of-racing/
 
Manufacturers Rd 10
Final race with Hyundai (thankfully). Qualified 9th courtesy of my banker lap. Spun myself out on my second flying lap so who knows where that could have ended up. Lap 1 first time up the hill there's a hilarious amount of ping pong going on ahead of me and a Nissan comes off worst gaining me a position. I stay in 8th for an unremarkable first stint, pitting at the end of lap 10 to go onto the mediums. Once all pitting is done I actually lost a position and get held up by an F-Type that took me a lap and a half to get past, finally making it stick around the outside of the first uphill left hander.

The rest of the race I'm slowly gaining on a Merc, but make a mistake that costs me some time and that looks to be it. However two very late pitters (I guess 2 stoppers?) late on move me up to 7th and now the Merc has an NSX right behind them to deal with. On the last lap I'm wondering what could have been if I'd got past the F-Type a little quicker, but 7th isn't a bad result. Going down the hill after the corkscrew and the NSX blasts the Merc deep into the gravel and get's themselves a 4 second penalty. 5th place it is :lol:

Goodbye Hyundai. It's been a mediocre experience but at least your car didn't keep trying to kill me (glares at Ferrari).

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Qualified 2nd, .026 off pole at Sardegna driving the R18. Gave pole a tiny nudge through turn 1 and had the lead for the first two laps. I had a wobble somewhere and he got back past, I was just trying to stay pointing in the right direction. Eventually the inevitable happened and I spun, I think I ended up 5th. Pitted from mediums to hard on lap 8 with a view to a two-stop. Came out in 7th after my second stop and made up two places as the two in front of me went off. As I'm typing I realise this is absolute word salad, but the race was too much of a disappointment for me to immediately remember or post about it. I certainly had the pace to win, I had the (relative) consistency to podium, but I pitted twice when I didn't have to and had a spin.

With that said, I seem to find Gr.1 and Super Formula easy to drive with the wheel. The R18 is a strange one with the boost but when you get used to that, it's manageable.

Qualified 8th at Laguna Seca in the GT-R. Ruined two guys in qualifying as I was trying to fuel burn, not realising that doing that I was only ghosted through the pit straight and basically nowhere else. Made my way up through a few places in the opening laps. I think on lap 3 or 4 I got past some people who were sliding about through the last two corners. I looked behind me as I was going up the pit straight and saw someone with a 7 second penalty, so I 50cent.gif'd it and ran away. Think I ended up 2nd during that first stint on the mediums behind the pole sitter in a Porsche. We were putting in quite similar lap times, and we both pitted on lap 7 for hards. I had planned on two stopping but after Sardegna, and with Laguna Seca's awful pit lane, I figured I'd see where I was. Once the pit stops were done I was in 2nd again with a 10 second gap to 3rd with 5 laps to go, so I just left it.

I was getting more and more worried as the tyres were going off - I'd seen enough people bin it during the race - but in the last two laps the leader started making mistakes. I drifted as far back as 8 seconds or so but ended up 1.5 behind at one point on the last lap. He held it together so I ended up second, but it was a great improvement for me with the wheel and on a terrible car/track combo for Nissan so I was very happy with the outcome. I feel slightly more confident with the wheel now, I'm just not fast. At least my FIA results (Christmas day didn't happen) are improving.
 
Didn't get disconnected!

And also didn't bottle qualifying, from a lap time perspective anyway. Knew that I could get three flying laps in at the end of the session if I just fuel burned the first half so that was the tactic. The first lap - while clean - I was too close to a car ahead and was suffering in the dirty air so aborted, recharged the battery into the final corner and waited for a gap for a lap. Did a good job of it, crossed the line in 1:26.8 to take provisional pole with 20s of the qualifying session left. Absolutely nailed the first sector of my next lap, almost 0.2s up but had caught up to the guy who ended up qualifying 13th who was also on a hot lap and the dirty air had it's effect again. My time was only a 1:27.1 and I watched as I dropped from 1st to 7th on the grid.

The race was bumpy! Especially early on, people desperate to make moves stick while we were all close. I was up, down, up and ended up settling in 7th or 8th as the race started to spread out. My plan was always a two stopper, fresh hards were faster than 5-6 lap old mediums... as long as you had clean air.

And now for the bottle job, my in-lap.

We were in touch with 4th but had been falling back from the leading group and times were on average over 1s slower than I would have expected in clean air. I knew I could pit early and get the undertake done. So naturally I made mistake after mistake on the final sector of my in-lap, lost around 2s on the group fighting for 4th and came out right behind two people battling it out for 10th rather than ahead of them. This was the nightmare scenario. I was losing 2s a lap on what I had been doing in practice. They eventually pitted out of the way but the damage had been done. I came in for my final stop, back out a couple of seconds behind one of the cars I'd been following on the previous stint, made very light work of him (much easier when he can't get a slipstream himself!), and closed the gap on 9th from 6.5s to 1.3s but that was my lot. So I came home in my favourite position that I always seem to be finishing in these races of 10th! But at least I got to take away the fastest lap in this race and I'm the fastest over 40 year old on the FIAs in Staffordshire!!:lol::lol:

Now deciding which Championship to enter for the next one
 
Manu went really well tonight! Qualified 3rd somehow after messing up my only flying lap at the corkscrew. Had a good time trying to keep 4th place behind me for a while, P4 eventually got around a few laps before the pit stop, then P2 went off heading into the corkscrew just before the pit stop(49:42 in the video). After that the new P2 started to drive off on me, but by that time I had a good gap to the guy behind so I was able to cruise for the last few laps and just focus on trying not to bin it. Best part is that I never have to drive this GTR ever again! :lol:

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At one point early in the race(43:47 in the video), I got a lucky break too. A guy behind blew his braking point going into the corkscrew but I saw it last minute on the radar and was able to avoid him without getting a penalty or going off, it doesn’t normally work that way. :)

 
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Strats for the season finale races look like this:

Nations: While Starting on Mediums is surprisingly not a death sentence for me, Starting on Hards for the first 12 Laps before going to mediums is the ideal solution. Lots of smooth driving required for this as I have the rear brake pressure up abit to try aiding in getting some extra boost.

Manufacturers: After experimenting with both a one stopper and two stopper, the latter is the better way to go. Start on the hards, pit on lap 7 for same tires and then 13 for a final four lap sprint on Mediums.

About to start as I end this post, hope things go well.
 
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