FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[KosmoKazi]

Gr.1 at Laguna Seca sounds like an absolute ********. Imagine the first corner. No thanks.

TUNING PERMITTED!

(can I crank up my downforce to 300%?!?)

 

[watto79]

TUNING PERMITTED!

(can I crank up my downforce to 300%?!?)

Not for that race. Only the Greddy Fugu Z and F1500 rounds permit tuning.

 

[KosmoKazi]

Not for that race. Only the Greddy Fugu Z and F1500 rounds permit tuning.

Shoot, read that wrong... in any case, T1 (or official "T2" ?!?) at Laguna in Gr1 cars is going to be tricky, for sure. And no amount of physically possible downforce would save you from what some of us will endure, I am certain!

 

[Pigems]

Not for that race. Only the Greddy Fugu Z and F1500 rounds permit tuning.

Wicked! I’ve got a sweet tune for the F1500!

 

[MIE1992]

Gr.1 at Laguna Seca sounds like qualifying will be everything, but the available and required types opens up some strategy options.

The F1500 at St. Croix sounds really interesting. The F1 YouTube channel showed two of Nikki Laudas last races this week so I'm kinda in the mood for that. Grid start too for full F1 authenticity. The only downer for me is tuning is allowed for that one and I don't have a clue, but I'm sure people will be sharing their tunes around here.

Ah, then I'll definitely skip that round with the F1500T-A, then, as I really wish they'd both fix the bugs with tuning (e.g. reverse rake exploit) and explain the settings better. I'll have to wait for the next game to see if they address those issues, too. I know I can always look online for guides, but that should not be necessary.

As for the Gr.1 race at Laguna Seca, I admit that I don't even really know how to form a tire strategy. How am I supposed to counter somebody else's strategy if I, by the nature of the game, don't know what they're doing? The most that I know is that you qualify on the softest compound, pick a compound that correlates most to your qualifying position, and try to go on harder compounds as least as possible while going on softer ones both as much as you can, and later, as the car will be lighter due to expended fuel. It also doesn't help that I never really know how long each tire compound will last given the multipliers, so I either need to go into a lobby to test it, or ask around here. Ideally, they should provide that information, as well as when I should be expected to pit for fuel.

Not a fan of Dragon Trail - Seaside, either, for that Gr.4 race.

I think in the name of having time, I may just call it quits after this next round at Maggiore for the Manufacturers Series. I know I'm roughly the 7th in my state, but I just don't feel incentivized - especially since it really does feel like most games would offer something for being in the top 300 players within your nation - which happens to include me, at least as of this post. I think I'd rather just stick to the daily races and keep going through the GT League rounds they add.

EDIT: Might stick with the Manufacturers Series, though. We'll see.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

I had a great opportunity to win 2nd split last night, but it was taken away by the penalty system getting it wrong. The driver I was fighting for the lead threw a late block on me at turn 6, when that happened I rubbed his bumper and got a 2 second penalty. That 2 second penalty cost me 5 seconds of track time and made me fall from 2nd to 7th. Thankfully I made it back to 3rd for the finish. I'm usually pretty chill, but I had such a disastrous evening the night before in the Miata races that I was really focusing on every position to get the DR back that l lost.

Don't get me started on the Spec Miata races. I qualified no better than 15th in every slot, just from bad luck. I almost changed my name after the races, because I did so bad. I would cleanly make up many positions just to get killed from behind. It was still fun.....you can't beat slow cars on crappy tires.

It was good to race with @Pigems and @The359 last night. Pigems, I saw you and the red Acura make love after Coca Cola, it was fun watching you all go at it, but I was a bit frustrated after leaving the pits on brand new softs and get stuck in all that traffic.

Last night's Manu fight, the block/penalty fiasco starts around the 16:40 mark.


Tuesday night's only good Miata race. It was a fun climb through the field.


See you all on track soon!

 

[rhcpeppers]

How am I supposed to counter somebody else's strategy if I, by the nature of the game, don't know what they're doing?

That's what makes the tire/pit strategy so much fun. You DON'T know what everyone else is doing, but they don't know what you're doing either .

Then there is the added element of making decisions during the race such as pitting earlier than you planned because you're caught in traffic and being held up, or maybe staying out longer because you've got clear track in front of you. This is why I find the longer races more fun than the sprints. The pit/tire strategies add another element to make things more interesting.

 

[Adam Barber]

New calendar looks really good tbh well done PD. Also definitely swapping manufacturer and considering Either Aston Martin, Jaguar, Ferrari or something boring like Porsche (sorry if you're with Porsche). Any advice on Ferrari post updated from those who have picked them?

 

[MCL1974]

New calendar looks really good tbh well done PD. Also definitely swapping manufacturer and considering Either Aston Martin, Jaguar, Ferrari or something boring like Porsche (sorry if you're with Porsche). Any advice on Ferrari post updated from those who have picked them?

saw a lot of complaints about the Jaguars being very slow on this forum so suggest to re-consider that option?

 

[TeddyWestside]

I guess I won't have to worry about tuning the Greddy since I have a self-imposed ban on entering any more FIA Tokyo races for the foreseeable future! That's one less problem ahead!

Have to try out the tracks for Nissan though, because I'm not sure how many of the races will soon suit the GT-R this time around...




[Edit: 'soon'? 'suit'!]

 

[05XR8]

With that RX-V debut, good-byyyyeee GR.4 Atenza. Why even bother? It'll be such a let down hearing that rotary scream for 30 minute races and then, jumping in the buzzer beater 4.

Anyway, glad Mazda released it early for some testing and a good track to check it's speed and handling(Spa Race B & Spa TT)

 

[GTWolverine]

Wicked! I’ve got a sweet tune for the F1500!

Is it similar to the tune you used for it in GT6 (well, the actual Lotus verion anyway)? If it is, that might mean my tune for the Lotus 98T will work too, and I remember it pretty well.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I had a great opportunity to win 2nd split last night, but it was taken away by the penalty system getting it wrong. The driver I was fighting for the lead threw a late block on me at turn 6, when that happened I rubbed his bumper and got a 2 second penalty. That 2 second penalty cost me 5 seconds of track time and made me fall from 2nd to 7th. Thankfully I made it back to 3rd for the finish. I'm usually pretty chill, but I had such a disastrous evening the night before in the Miata races that I was really focusing on every position to get the DR back that l lost.

Don't get me started on the Spec Miata races. I qualified no better than 15th in every slot, just from bad luck. I almost changed my name after the races, because I did so bad. I would cleanly make up many positions just to get killed from behind. It was still fun.....you can't beat slow cars on crappy tires.

It was good to race with @Pigems and @The359 last night. Pigems, I saw you and the red Acura make love after Coca Cola, it was fun watching you all go at it, but I was a bit frustrated after leaving the pits on brand new softs and get stuck in all that traffic.

Last night's Manu fight, the block/penalty fiasco starts around the 16:40 mark.


Tuesday night's only good Miata race. It was a fun climb through the field.


See you all on track soon!

for whatever reason, the contact penalties seemed worse than ever at Fuji. There’s plenty of evidence of it. It also occurred to me that j had similar problems it the hairpin where you got your penalty in the dailies a couple of months ago. There’s something foul with it. Shame about your. That was a **** block, moved inside way too late. Possibly because the driver was keen to the current MO of the inside car being able to move under a guy in turn. So there you go: it’s just fostered crap habits and mannerisms even from people who probably know better, and penalized the people who care to play by the rules.

 

[Redneckchef]

saw a lot of complaints about the Jaguars being very slow on this forum so suggest to re-consider that option?

Need to upvote this more. Car isnt awful, but just seems to be mid pack at everything, but terrible to recover from any mistakes at all. Even though they are pretty similar I have been beaten routinely by Astons driven by guys I am able to race and beat in the dailies. And they are complaining about having a terrible race while trouncing me.

Still sticking with it anyway since I am stubborn and stupid.

 

[pennanton]

I agree, and it's the same in Manufacturers where 4 of the rounds look like no stoppers.

The Nations combos at least are fairly unique but I do prefer races with strategy options. This next stage has a lot of sprint races.

Whoops I was supposed to write Manu for that, didn’t even check Nations as I’ve been even less a fan of those combos. Don’t have patience for N100/200/300 or MX5 TC one makes any more. Hopefully there’s changes there.

 

[Famine]

With that RX-V debut, good-byyyyeee GR.4 Atenza. Why even bother? It'll be such a let down hearing that rotary scream for 30 minute races and then, jumping in the buzzer beater 4.

While I concur that there's no need to bother with the Atenza Gr.4 ever, I'm not sure how the Gr.3 RX-Vision changes that in any way.

 

[Pigems]

Is it similar to the tune you used for it in GT6 (well, the actual Lotus verion anyway)? If it is, that might mean my tune for the Lotus 98T will work too, and I remember it pretty well.

I’m not sure, I can’t remember which thread I got it from now? It was somewhere in the tuning section of GTP though.

 

[05XR8]

While I concur that there's no need to bother with the Atenza Gr.4 ever, I'm not sure how the Gr.3 RX-Vision changes that in any way.

The difference in sound between the two, is mainly what I'm expressing/stressing. Plus, having a "GT3" coupe and then not having the same type of car for GR.4, when there's literally potential right there, puts me off driving the sedan.

 

[Famine]

The difference in sound between the two, is mainly what I'm expressing/stressing. Plus, having a "GT3" coupe and then not having the same type of car for GR.4, when there's literally potential right there, puts me off driving the sedan.

Having a decent car that can do well most of time in Gr.3, and a fat, pointless sack of **** in Gr.4 is what puts me off driving the Gr.4 Atenza.

 

[Pigems]

Having a decent car that can do well most of time in Gr.3, and a fat, pointless sack of **** in Gr.4 is what puts me off driving the Gr.4 Atenza.

Do any Manus have 2 good cars?

 

[Razgriz2118]

Do any Manus have 2 good cars?

Wouldn't Porsche be one of them? Like, I don't think they're meta at any track, but they're also not bad at any track either (at least, I think, I've had good success with Porsche in my lower A class races and I know they're a "safe" choice).

 

[Redneckchef]

Do any Manus have 2 good cars?

I think VW actually does. If you can handle the GTI in GR. 3. The Scirocco benefits from the FF boost but seems to be a forgotten solid car.

In light of that, here's the great finish at the end of last Saturday's Suzuka race where I just nipped the other guy at the line. Didnt even notice it was a double crossover until reviewing the footage today. And I wasn't trying to block him on the hard move right, just was trying to make a straightish line. One of the good races I have had at that track.

 

[Peddler13]

Lots of people getting penalties for not using all of the tyres it seems. Most of these people seem unaware of the requirements until they are pointed out. Maybe they should be highlighted or featured somehow so drivers are fully aware! Having said this, I am not sure it matters too much as most of the drivers affected are not interested in gaining points, etc.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Lots of people getting penalties for not using all of the tyres it seems. Most of these people seem unaware of the requirements until they are pointed out. Maybe they should be highlighted or featured somehow so drivers are fully aware! Having said this, I am not sure it matters too much as most of the drivers affected are not interested in gaining points, etc.

They are highlighted. In race details, on the gran Turismo webpage, on the loading screen for the race....

 

[Famine]

Do any Manus have 2 good cars?

Porsche, Mercedes, Toyota, and to a lesser extent Ford and Aston Martin.

They do all have weak spots - the Porsche and Toyota Gr.4 cars are not the fastest, but generally they're good anywhere with bends and have good tyre life. The Mercedes Gr.4 can be a boat on tight tracks, but mid-range tyre wear and good on more open tracks. Mustang Gr.4 and Aston Gr.4 are very similar to the Mercedes - and Ford depends on which Gr.3 you pick.

The Mazda Gr.4 really is terrible though - you can spot which are the Gr.4 races by any Mazda driver's points

 

[The359]

I had a great opportunity to win 2nd split last night, but it was taken away by the penalty system getting it wrong. The driver I was fighting for the lead threw a late block on me at turn 6, when that happened I rubbed his bumper and got a 2 second penalty. That 2 second penalty cost me 5 seconds of track time and made me fall from 2nd to 7th. Thankfully I made it back to 3rd for the finish. I'm usually pretty chill, but I had such a disastrous evening the night before in the Miata races that I was really focusing on every position to get the DR back that l lost.

Don't get me started on the Spec Miata races. I qualified no better than 15th in every slot, just from bad luck. I almost changed my name after the races, because I did so bad. I would cleanly make up many positions just to get killed from behind. It was still fun.....you can't beat slow cars on crappy tires.

It was good to race with @Pigems and @The359 last night. Pigems, I saw you and the red Acura make love after Coca Cola, it was fun watching you all go at it, but I was a bit frustrated after leaving the pits on brand new softs and get stuck in all that traffic.

I too might have managed a podium in that race from 12th on the grid, I think I could have challenged the NSX that was on Mediums, but I caused my own penalty by taking an inch too far. Now I understand how I managed to get with the lead pack after the pit stops though, with you guys all held up in traffic. I should have stopped after that Manufacturers race, my next race resulted in my being spun out by "yet another TTG" and my last race I just was uncompetitive despite a better qualifying.

I also had miserable Miata races for the entire day with almost every qualifying ending up with me losing the draft or making a mistake. It was just mindblowing. The race you posted was also one of my best climbs from the back, not quite as good as yours but I came out of it very clean. I just never felt on pace with the car though.

 

[GTWolverine]

Having a decent car that can do well most of time in Gr.3, and a fat, pointless sack of **** in Gr.4 is what puts me off driving the Gr.4 Atenza.

It's not totally pointless...it gives those of us in the Jag and 'Vette Gr. 4 cars a chance to actually finish ahead of something...

Wouldn't Porsche be one of them? Like, I don't think they're meta at any track, but they're also not bad at any track either (at least, I think, I've had good success with Porsche in my lower A class races and I know they're a "safe" choice).

I believe in most of my Manu races, there's been at least 1 Porsche on the Podium. They're not Metas, but they're almost always a top choice and a great option for people who don't want to use Metas in Daily or Nations races.

 

[Famine]

It's not totally pointless...it gives those of us in the Jag and 'Vette Gr. 4 cars a chance to actually finish ahead of something...

 

[KosmoKazi]

It's not totally pointless...it gives those of us in the Jag and 'Vette Gr. 4 cars a chance to actually finish ahead of something...

I believe in most of my Manu races, there's been at least 1 Porsche on the Podium. They're not Metas, but they're almost always a top choice and a great option for people who don't want to use Metas in Daily or Nations races.

I’ve found them to be really versatile. Just when I think it isn’t going to be a good car at a given track, it goes and surprises me. I also think that as you adapt to the way they drive, there is always an extra tenth to get because you can’t overdrive the car by nature. So I think it’s a great car to start out with and one that you can grow into as you get better. On Gr3 tracks, I try the META each time, but I come back to the RSR. Some of that is because I’m comfortable but I also think it’s because at a 70ish K’ speed score type driver, what I leave on the table is bigger than the difference in any given ultimate speed difference between any given META and either Porsche… and the car really does reward improvement with pace, without relying on any weird tactics to get that additional speed.

I hesitated to sign Porsche for the FIA season because I wasn’t very comfortable and hadn’t been fast in the Cayman in Gr4 events before, but it’s proven to be the equal of its big brother throughout the season so far and I’m really happy with both.

 

[05XR8]

It's not totally pointless...it gives those of us in the Jag and 'Vette Gr. 4 cars a chance to actually finish ahead of something...