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I actually tried to race in the rain in the GT-R. I can sum that experience in one clip...



I was actually keeping up at most sections against the entire fleet of MRs around me. Then I got to the bus stop and I might as well have put the car in reverse. :irked:

I can still hear it hitting the rev limiter from the first time I tried it at Austria. An awful experience all round.
 
What a real odd selection of N800 cars. I think they all have Michelin Pilot Sport tire stickers, too. And why are people saying the 458 is gonna be the best for this one?
 
I heard that many people were struggling with trying to set good times on SSRX (Round 27) and don't know the strategy for the race, so I made a guide on it... :lol:



The absolute madlad has done it! He made a guide for it! :lol: I have to ask, was this the easiest guide to make, or was it difficult since I'm assuming you had to test out quite a few of the cars and also get that precision with shifting and turning down?
 
I expect to see about 30 lead changes in that race. :lol:
And some left behind, once cars hit the banking.:scared::lol:
What a real odd selection of N800 cars. I think they all have Michelin Pilot Sport tire stickers, too. And why are people saying the 458 is gonna be the best for this one?
458 has quick acceleration and highest speed into banking. That's why it's nearly 2 seconds faster than the other cars. Check the final drives of each car and you'll see.
 
Just one FIA race will likely bump it up. They’re the best way to fix SR. Lots of points on offer. Just run one or two of those and you’ll be set. When I almost got reset a few weeks back, I realized after grinding and chancing and losing more SR in Dailies that it would have been easier to just do that!

I made it back to 99 SR! I'll post the story over in the Daily thread, but it took 12 races at the 'Ring to get it done. Great way to spend the day!
 
I expect to see about 30 lead changes in that race. :lol:
I wonder if some of them will be like a bicycle race in a velodrome, with the leaders trying to lay back to avoid being slipstreamed or getting penalties for being bump drafted! Then shooting for the finish off the last turn!

Yesterday I finally had some good race experiences.

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I'm used to driving FF cars, so the Scirocco, while having way too much power for its front wheels, wasn't too much of a hassle for me to throw around, and I like Suzuka a lot, so I felt good about this race. Then I get put as Door #1. Great. Qualifying wasn't good. On my first flying lap, I had a good draft, but then I mess up Spoon curve and 130R, setting a time that was 0.2s slower than my lobby free practice time, and on my second flying lap I have a bran fart and brake way too early for Degner I and then running wide at the Hairpin, ruining the lap. So, starting from 14th it is, with @Master Weasel alongside in 13th and @CJam ahead in 12th. I decide to start on the Hards and plan for a one-stop.

Everyone gets off the line about the same. I'm cautious coming through the Esses and I end up losing two positions due to this caution. However, it all kicks off at the Hairpin as someone forgets how to brake, sending several cars flying, including @CJam and @Master Weasel. In my bid to avoid touching anyone, I only get a net gain of one position. An innocent bystander to the collision gets a 2 second penalty that they serve, and @Master Weasel and another car go side-by-side through 130R. Unfortunately, @Master Weasel spins directly into my path, giving me a 2 second penalty and suspension damage. Knowing that I'll be at the back of the pack because of the penalty and the Hards, I decide to switch to a 2 stop. I figure I need all the raw pace I can and because I'm so far back, I won't hit too much traffic. Plus, the time in the pits will take up some of the time needed for the damage to disappear. So, I come out in 18th with a big gap ahead and behind, as several other people went into the pits as well.

I serve my penalty and keep 18th, but the two cars behind me are now right on my tail. I run wide into Turn 1, and the person behind me does the same. Last place, the same driver who started the Hairpin incident, tries passing me through the Esses, and while I give space, I go over the curbs and unsettle the car slightly, tapping them into the gravel. I call it a racing incident and move on, pulling bus lengths to the person behind and reeling in the people ahead.

I don't catch up to 17th place until Lap 5, and although I'm much faster, I have problems passing them from my own errors. However, they put their right turn signal on and let me by at T1. Thank you, my good racer. I catch up to a group from 13th-15th at the start of Lap 7, which included @CJam . With superior traction, I'm able to pass @CJam into the Hairpin, and I'm right on 13th's tail as they and I pull into the pits.

After throwing on my second set of Mediums, I come out 17th, and I follow the person ahead through Degner I to make a pass for 16th. I end up passing them at 130R for 15th, and go up to 14th as someone pits. At the start of Lap 10, I'm in a group spanning 10th through 14th. I get 13th through Degner I, and after making a feint at the Hairpin, I pass for 12th. 11th then runs wide through Spoon, and I'm on the tail of 10th.

I try to go up their inside in the Hairpin, but they turn in like I"m not there and I bump them. In the post-race chat, they go on to cuss me out and say I rammed them intentionally, followed by the classic "Reported" line, but I continued on. I catch up to a group containing 7th-9th by the Esses of the final lap. I pass for 9th in the Hairpin, and I inherit 8th as the person ahead serves a penalty, and I cross the line 8th for 135 points, right behind @Master Weasel .

Despite the terrible start, I got the strategy right and didn't experience much traffic to make a comeback. Even though this isn't the best points haul, I didn't feel like trying again since, all things considered, I think I was pretty lucky with the recovery from 18th.

Manufacturer's, Slot 1


I was excited for this race because of the rain, since I feel like I do well in wet-weather conditions, with my usual cautious-approach paying off by not over-driving too much. @Jwptexas and @Master Weasel , along with other familiar faces, were all in this race, so I knew it was going to be fun.

Qualifying went spectacularly. I was actually set for a pole one my second flying lap before going too slowly through the Bus Stop chicane, but I happily took 4th on the grid. This luckily meant I only needed to finish the last corner of the Bus Stop chicane to start and didn't put me too far off from first, and gave us a nice gap to 7th and behind.

For the first 3 laps, the gaps ahead and behind me stayed pretty constant, until entering Pouhon on Lap 3. The NSX and WRX ahead of me began fighting, and the NSX got a slow exit, almost letting me pass. This, however, slowed me down enough for the AMG GT behind me to get within slipstream range, and they made a pass into Les Combs on Lap 4, which I didn't defend against since I knew there'd be chances to fight back. Unfortunately, I forgot the power of the slipstream and braked at my regular braking point into Pouhon, and I couldn't dodge the AMG GT in time. I was rightfully awarded a 2s penalty, and since I saw they recovered and were within 2s of me, I kept going since I knew they'd overtake me in the penalty zone. So on Lap 5 I served my penalty and they pass me, and I barely keep 5th place. From there, the 911 behind me couldn't keep up and I followed the AMG GT across the line for 5th place and 164 points.

I was happy with the results since although 4th could've been possible, I still got a good points haul that increased my total FIA score, and minus the accidental punting, I kept things clean, consistent, and was fortunate to have had a good qualifying/starting position.


Coming back from 18th to earn 8th... wow, makes me even madder I blew the race with a dump no-stop strategy to take a 6th grid position and waste it, when I was decent on pace. Nice work.

I heard that many people were struggling with trying to set good times on SSRX (Round 27) and don't know the strategy for the race, so I made a guide on it... :lol:



Noticed you ran it on DS4... secret advantage, or just so you can take you hand off on the straights (G29 would oscillate until the car went out of control if you go no-hands!)???

I made it back to 99 SR! I'll post the story over in the Daily thread, but it took 12 races at the 'Ring to get it done. Great way to spend the day!

Good work, that solves that. I wish I was as confident to enjoy the Ring Race B this week. Haven't ventured it yet, maybe will check it out today still. Good luck in Rd 27!
 
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The absolute madlad has done it! He made a guide for it! :lol: I have to ask, was this the easiest guide to make, or was it difficult since I'm assuming you had to test out quite a few of the cars and also get that precision with shifting and turning down?
Definitely the easiest and most fun guide to make.
I only went with the 458, since I took a trip to NZ and saw that that was the top car.
I was in a lobby that were testing the other cars, and they CAN have a fighting chance. It's all about positioning yourself correctly while taking advantage of the slip.
The shifting was pretty easy, it was the banked turns that I was more curious about.. which is why you can see that I spent more than half an hour at its time trial...

Noticed you ran it on DS4... secret advantage, or just so you can take you hand off on the straights (G29 would oscillate until the car went out of control if you go no-hands!)???
I was too lazy to set the wheel up. :lol:
 
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Noticed you ran it on DS4... secret advantage, or just so you can take you hand off on the straights (G29 would oscillate until the car went out of control if you go no-hands!)???


It's time to break out the 2x4 for my "cruise control". :lol: The youngsters might not get this one!
 
Coming back from 18th to earn 8th... wow, makes me even madder I blew the race with a dump no-stop strategy to take a 6th grid position and waste it, when I was decent on pace. Nice work.

Noticed you ran it on DS4... secret advantage, or just so you can take you hand off on the straights (G29 would oscillate until the car went out of control if you go no-hands!)???

Thank you! That's also why I didn't want to try again, because I felt I nailed the strategy for that race, but I didn't want to bet on it working again.

I didn't even think about using the DS4 over the wheel... I'll have to try that lol

Definitely the easiest and most fun guide to make.
I only went with the 458, since I took a trip to NZ and saw that that was the top car.
I was in a lobby that were testing the other cars, and they CAN have a fighting chance. It's all about positioning yourself correctly while taking advantage of the slip.
The shifting was pretty easy, it was the banked turns that I was more curious about.. which is why you can see that I spent more than half an hour at its time trial...

I was too lazy to set the wheel up. :lol:

Haha, that's fair. Although I'm curious now about DS4 vs. wheel for this one.... hmm....
 
I wonder if some of them will be like a bicycle race in a velodrome, with the leaders trying to lay back to avoid being slipstreamed or getting penalties for being bump drafted! Then shooting for the finish off the last turn!
I've done lobby races on this track in other cars, and it seems the person entering the final turn in 1st place usually ends up around 4th or 5th. Sometimes, they end up facing the wrong direction.
 
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I wonder if some of them will be like a bicycle race in a velodrome, with the leaders trying to lay back to avoid being slipstreamed or getting penalties for being bump drafted! Then shooting for the finish off the last turn!

I think that is really the only way to go. My strategy is to officially sit in last (or last in the main pack) until the start of the backstretch on lap 2. If I can work my way to the front by mid-point, I know I have a shot and will again drop to the back until the start of the corner. I've noticed with the 458, you can run on the apron and only drop another mph (usually 247, dropping to 246).

The finish will go either way. It'll be a straight non draft sprint, or a couple guys will get together and wait to pull out (haha) until the absolute end.
 
Definitely intrigued by this upcoming Nations Cup event; never thought they'd host a slipstream challenge. Will try to participate in all four rounds.

So how many players do you think are going to nub someone else's car by the rear on the final stretch? :D
 
I also noticed that not only are the cars customized beyond their power/weight, but the name of the custom transmission seems different, too. Or did the 458 always have that transmission for its custom option? And what’s the difference between it and a more typical sequential transmission, like the one that’s listed more often as the custom transmission type?

I also just learned - at least in the context of GT Sport - that the 458 and LaFerrari are automatics as stock. Is that really so in reality? And were those Michelin Pilot Sport tire stickers applicable to any car, including the road cars?
 
Definitely intrigued by this upcoming Nations Cup event; never thought they'd host a slipstream challenge. Will try to participate in all four rounds.

So how many players do you think are going to nub someone else's car by the rear on the final stretch? :D
I have probably not looked forward to any FIA race as much as this one. I'll probably do it several times, also.
Maybe the reason I'm so intrigued is because it will not require as much driving skill as a typical race (that's a good thing for me).
Strategy ought to determine the outcome. Well, assuming nobody gives you a penalty or makes you hit the wall. :lol:

Also looking forward to reading about all the people who get super pissed off about whatever, and how horrible the race was. 👍
 
I also noticed that not only are the cars customized beyond their power/weight, but the name of the custom transmission seems different, too. Or did the 458 always have that transmission for its custom option? And what’s the difference between it and a more typical sequential transmission, like the one that’s listed more often as the custom transmission type?

I also just learned - at least in the context of GT Sport - that the 458 and LaFerrari are automatics as stock. Is that really so in reality? And were those Michelin Pilot Sport tire stickers applicable to any car, including the road cars?

Almost all cars are essentially automatic. Just like my old 2003 Kia Optima, you have the ability to shift up or down (though won't recommend going down with my Kia). Manuals are dead, just that some are having a truly hard time getting over that fact. Heck, Hyundai has a gearbox which allows you the h-pattern, just without a clutch. Plus with the horsepower these cars now have, only about 1% of drivers could handle driving the car at a rapid pace with only one hand on the wheel.

As for the car's setups, I was able to run a few weeks ago with my completely untouched 458 around SSRX at the same speeds. I don't think the cars where adjusted beyond what will make each car N800, and

Though, I've watched the videos and such, but still unsure if even shifting down to 6th is even worth it in the race.
 
I have probably not looked forward to any FIA race as much as this one. I'll probably do it several times, also.
Maybe the reason I'm so intrigued is because it will not require as much driving skill as a typical race (that's a good thing for me).
Strategy ought to determine the outcome. Well, assuming nobody gives you a penalty or makes you hit the wall. :lol:

Also looking forward to reading about all the people who get super pissed off about whatever, and how horrible the race was. 👍
Pennnnnallllltieeeeess. Forgot all about that. How many orange arrows from all players during this one?
 
I do wonder how many people will actually cross the line in the end! Can see a few quitters once a mistake is made and slipstream is gone. :lol:

On the DS4/Wheel conundrum, i'm tempted to use a wheel so i can hold those banked curves more steady! Either way, feels good they've stuck this combo in for some proper fun at last!

(Is it fun enough to risk DR and SR though?? :lol:)
 
Contact in the Dailys are dropping the SR like an ACME anvil. Went from A/S to A/B after a 1 second penalty for, barely, front bumper to rear bumper contact. Had a 2 second side to side contact in the next race, but still managed to get to A/A.

avoiding the dailys like the plague. Just enjoying FIA races again and not going to ruin my good mood.
 
been practicing for Manu; no matter what i do i can not get the Renault RSO through turn 2 without losing the back. Tried several different approaches into the turn, changed brake balance and TSC but still the car is very unstable there. it is okay on the rest of the track but turn 2 is costing me so much of my laptime....
 
been practicing for Manu; no matter what i do i can not get the Renault RSO through turn 2 without losing the back. Tried several different approaches into the turn, changed brake balance and TSC but still the car is very unstable there. it is okay on the rest of the track but turn 2 is costing me so much of my laptime....

Try TCS1, it will let you hit the gas a little harder/sooner once your wheels are straight and should let you jump out of the turn a little faster. :)
 
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