FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Jwptexas]

I was thinking the same thing during my race last night. I don't know when it started, but the rear end of the Cayman, especially, has seemed much more likely to lose traction than I remember earlier in the year. I didn't notice it with the BoP adjustment, so not sure it was then, if anything changed, but for sure, the car is not as predictable as it was in the earlier rounds, or at least it seems. Something seems different.

I lost what chance I had to make up any spot on the run up to the green flag, by losing the rear end out of the last turn at yesterday's Ring race... it just stepped out under throttle. For a car that isn't exactly high on HP, it seems odd. And I'm with you... just can't find the handle on it lately. I'm pushing like hell and still watching everyone walk away from me, I just don't get it. I have no chance on the power straights, and I'm not able to keep my cornering speeds higher than others.

What I really don't understand is that I see others winning poles and races with the car. Discouraging to me, as I normally feel like I'm consistent, especially in Gr4, where my K' Speed Score is effectively 80. So getting trounced at the Ring yesterday, and being unable to find the speed has me scratching my head.

Meanwhile, without any prior practice, I was able to take a Vette from 6th to 3rd in my alt account race, despite not driving that car much, in a lobby that was similar to what I raced in for the first half of the season (including some of the same racers). So it seems I just lost the handle on the Porsche...

I think you just need to go ahead and make the switch to Chevy

 

[SweatyC]

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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Noooo you’ve jinxed it! Get out of Dodge!

 

[watto79]

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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*Crosses Dodge off next seasons short list.

 

[Jwptexas]

*Crosses Dodge off next seasons short list.

With any luck it'll get nerfed and be crap to start the season but PD will make a change midseason and it'll be back to being sorta META.

 

[Pigems]

*Crosses Dodge off next seasons short list.

My apologies to anyone who was considering Dodge next season.

 

[das89ca]

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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You really hate me, do you?

After we both chose Alfa Romeo at the beginning of the season, decided to go with Dodge for the next one. I loved the Gr.3 car around Red Bull Ring in Nations Cup and tested it in several tracks after.

I even tested the Gr.4 car on my alternate account yesterday at Nurb GP with no practice(1 botched lap of time trial) and I was surprised how well I have improved. I also tested the penalty system yesterday, managed to get from 72SR(courtesy of Monza) to 20 in a race where I did not have any penalties or punting. My great crime was having a better exit than the Nissan in front, accelerating faster in 2nd and 3rd gear and because I didn't want to force a dangerous pass just lifted a bit. I touched the car in front on 5-6 occasions without causing him any discomfort - the Italian driver even thanked me for the good and clean race. Compared to this, in the Suzuka Scirocco race I absolutely destroyed twice a guy for revenge(after I thought wrongly that he punted me) and had several rubbings and it only costed me 17SR.

Returning to the Vipers, at this moment there was no alien racing them, and as this season I am starting at about 42k DR I think I have a genuine chance to fight for the top5 in the Dodge leaderboards. Unless they are completely nerfded in the middle of the season and I refuse to race them anymore like I did with Alfa...

 

[Odiesback]

My first race after a two week vacation and missing five races!

Manufacturers Series - Nurburgring GP

Got #1 on the door, Qualified 6th and brought the M4 across the finish line in 5th place.

Very clean and competitive race. The pole went off on T1 and I moved to 5th. Went back to 6th and regained the position later. It was a tense race from beginning to the very end. The car in 4th had opened a nice gap so the fight for 5th place was intense.

Saw @KosmoKazi there (unfortunately we did not come in close contact during the race) and other familiar names.

Got bumped up one position in the Manufacturers rank and some nice DR points.

 

[Lewmatic]

This was a long night. First race in a room with @csmirnoff but also saw a dirty driver was there as well and of course ruining the race for some of us. Started 10th and finished 11th. Tried again and he wasn't in the next slot but penalty system ruined my start at 2nd when I got hit in turn causing me to touch the car next to me giving a 2 sec penalty. Mid pack was crazy and stupid bumping me left and right and dropping my SR to A and finished 7th. 3rd slot I was in a room with C and D cars, what? That matching confused me being that I'm at A/A in the room with C and D/S. Finished 1st by no contest and got my SR back to S. Last slot back in a proper room Started 3rd and battled with an 86 for most of the race for 2nd. Exhausting turn of events but things worked out in the end.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I'm exactly the same with the Merc. The AMG GT3 is a great all round car, the Gr.4 SLS is all round dog mess!

...it's a pity as the AMG is a really great race car in Gr3, but the SLS was such a pig in my pre-season trials I quit my test drive and ruled out MB without hesitation. They really would benefit from a nice AMG A-Class to go toe-to-toe with the TT, IMO, and that would make for a fun lineup.

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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I didn't consider the Vipers seriously at the start of the year, because I assumed they were handfuls to drive. Not at all... they are actually kittens and really reliably fast, with bigger margins for mistakes than most. I'd enjoy running them more often.

My first race after a two week vacation and missing five races!

Manufacturers Series - Nurburgring GP

Got #1 on the door, Qualified 6th and brought the M4 across the finish line in 5th place.

Very clean and competitive race. The pole went off on T1 and I moved to 5th. Went back to 6th and regained the position later. It was a tense race from beginning to the very end. The car in 4th had opened a nice gap so the fight for 5th place was intense.

Saw @KosmoKazi there (unfortunately we did not come in close contact during the race) and other familiar names.

Got bumped up one position in the Manufacturers rank and some nice DR points.

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You did not see me because I was all the way in the back, struggling to even keep the one BMW behind me at the start and only chancing a view at the front of the field when they were running up the opposite straight after the hairpin. I was miserably slow!

This was a long night. First race in a room with @csmirnoff but also saw a dirty driver was there as well and of course ruining the race for some of us. Started 10th and finished 11th. Tried again and he wasn't in the next slot but penalty system ruined my start at 2nd when I got hit in turn causing me to touch the car next to me giving a 2 sec penalty. Mid pack was crazy and stupid bumping me left and right and dropping my SR to A and finished 7th. 3rd slot I was in a room with C and D cars, what? That matching confused me being that I'm at A/A in the room with C and D/S. Finished 1st by no contest and got my SR back to S. Last slot back in a proper room Started 3rd and battled with an 86 for most of the race for 2nd. Exhausting turn of events but things worked out in the end.

One thing for sure: that GP track is actually hard to pass on, as seen in the Zonda R race and others. Even if you get a run, it's hard to safely get alongside someone enough to finish a pass, and with the current penalty system, ripe for SR downs even when you don't actually upset the driver you're jockeying with. You can hope that they leave a few extra inches if you have a run into the final chicane, but you have to test the track limits to make a pass if someone defends on that tight chicane. And sometimes people leave the door open on the last turn, but that often results in a counter-move into T1 that you need to yield to. After that, it's a crap shoot. The Schumacher turns ~look~ like an opportunity, but often result in either contact or a track limits penalty when you try something on the entry there. And the hairpin at the south end of the track... pretty much just a cage match arena. No wonder you got bumped down in SR- it's a tough place to race.

 

[stpatty]

if someone could delete this and I'll post it in the dailies thread where it belongs that'd be great

 

[csmirnoff]

3rd slot I was in a room with C and D cars, what? That matching confused me being that I'm at A/A in the room with C and D/S.

Matchmaking sorts by SR first, then DR, in ranges of 10 SR, so from 90 to 99, 80 to 89, etc. So that lobby you were in was most probably the "top split" of the 80 to 89 SR range. With a much smaller pool of drivers, obviously DR spread is much bigger.

If you had S drivers also, then it's because there were a few leftover spots on the lowest S SR split, so the guys with best DR on the next SR range take those spots.

 

[Groundfish]

I am going to resign with Chevrolet on my account for serious racing.
On my fun account I’m torn between McLaren and Ferrari
Ferrari seems more user friendly for my style and seems easier to use curbing with so strongly leaning that way, I think McLaren has more punch tho so tough decision.
The Chevrolet cars just maintain pace and consistent drivability over a long race, they are predictable, and have a lot more grip than most drivers think, brakes too, plus power is pretty good and very torquey coming on smooth with the naturally aspirated power plants. Plus both cars drive very similar so it’s easy to switch between the two. Cockpit has great mirrors, tire wear is excellent if driven smooth.
Inside them I feel so safe and secure and their preference for slow and smooth is fast inputs make them a breeze to operate once you get the hang of them...

 

[Razgriz2118]

Does anyone have recommendations on tracks to test cars on to help me figure out which manufacturer to go with that aren't super long (e.g. Nordschliefe, Le Mans)? Some tracks I've thought of are the Red Bull Ring (power, braking/trail braking due to hairpins), Suzuka (power, medium speed corners), Dragon Trail Seaside (power, low and medium speed corners, quick direction change in Chicane of Death), maybe Kyoto Driving Park Yamigawa for the constant radius turns and esses? I'm blanking on technical tracks to test cornering abilities.

Still primarily wanting to test the NSX Gr. 3 and Gr. 4 and the V12 Vantage Gr. 4 since those manufacturers are on the top of my list right now, so if there's any track that might help with those too, I'd appreciate the input.

I'm exactly the same with the Merc. The AMG GT3 is a great all round car, the Gr.4 SLS is all round dog mess!

Thinking Ferrari for the next one

This is why Mercedes is off my list, I like the AMG GT3, but the SLS Gr. 4 isn't great. It's a shame because I used the AMG GT3 a lot in some Daily Races back in like December/January to lift my DR by like 10000 points.

Is Ferrari viable? From driving it in that one Nations race I know it has incredible launch, is good on fuel, and feels good to drive (won't try to kill you), but where is it on the nerfed to META scale? I've thought about them as well.

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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I honestly forgot about Dodge. Both the Gr. 3 and Gr. 4 cars are solid but fly under the radar, right?

I was thinking the same thing during my race last night. I don't know when it started, but the rear end of the Cayman, especially, has seemed much more likely to lose traction than I remember earlier in the year. I didn't notice it with the BoP adjustment, so not sure it was then, if anything changed, but for sure, the car is not as predictable as it was in the earlier rounds, or at least it seems. Something seems different.

I lost what chance I had to make up any spot on the run up to the green flag, by losing the rear end out of the last turn at yesterday's Ring race... it just stepped out under throttle. For a car that isn't exactly high on HP, it seems odd. And I'm with you... just can't find the handle on it lately. I'm pushing like hell and still watching everyone walk away from me, I just don't get it. I have no chance on the power straights, and I'm not able to keep my cornering speeds higher than others.

What I really don't understand is that I see others winning poles and races with the car. Discouraging to me, as I normally feel like I'm consistent, especially in Gr4, where my K' Speed Score is effectively 80. So getting trounced at the Ring yesterday, and being unable to find the speed has me scratching my head.

Meanwhile, without any prior practice, I was able to take a Vette from 6th to 3rd in my alt account race, despite not driving that car much, in a lobby that was similar to what I raced in for the first half of the season (including some of the same racers). So it seems I just lost the handle on the Porsche...

Yeah, especially with the race last night, I was able to lose the rear of the Cayman a lot more than before. I'm with you in that boat though, I see people still able to get great results out of the Cayman, but I just can't get anything out of it unless it's a specific combination, like St. Croix and Brands Hatch, which have been my only 2 good results in the Cayman since Stage 1. Just something about the car and how I drive doesn't vibe I guess. Me not vibing with the Cayman is the main reason why I want to jump ship from Porsche.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Not me, I’m taking the next cars on the list to get Nerf’d.

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Choose a manufacturer that has an FF Gr. 4 car. You'd be doing all of us a great service.

 

[Pigems]

@Razgriz2118 Pretty much, until now anyways lol.

 

[Groundfish]

If I were a testing car person, I’m not but I’d use Catalunya or Autopolis. Catalunya is a balanced circuit and Autopolis has a variety of corners.
I don’t test tho, I think you have to test in race in sport mode to really find out about how they shake out.

 

[Pigems]

Choose a manufacturer that has an FF Gr. 4 car. You'd be doing all of us a great service.

I thought about that, but I suck badly with the R8.

 

[Adam Barber]

Looking forward to finally using the red bull again so have come up with a GTPlanet livery to use.

https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gts...arLivery/livery/1632971/1/5693187721666756608

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• Adam Barber
• Aug 6, 2020

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[KosmoKazi]

If I were a testing car person, I’m not but I’d use Catalunya or Autopolis. Catalunya is a balanced circuit and Autopolis has a variety of corners.
I don’t test tho, I think you have to test in race in sport mode to really find out about how they shake out.

For sure: there's a reason the F1 teams test at Catalunya... very good overall neutral course with most of the varieties of types of turns that help sort out what any car can do.

And the Autopolis track likewise has many different radius turns, and would be a great circuit for testing as well, for the most part.

 

[Adam Barber]

I thought about that, but I suck badly with the R8.

The only logical next option is to sign with Peugeot, the ultimate meme choice!

 

[Jwptexas]

I think Laguna Seca is a pretty good test track myself.

My current Manufacturer sucks there but when I go to test cars, that's where i go.

Edit: Big Willow as well.

 

[MCL1974]

i am going to choose between Dodge and Honda, already working on liveries for both. (very early stage)
Will test them and see which one suits me better.....would have never thought even concidering Dodge till recently......

I missed the last races due to work but free coming Saturday and really looking forward to racing Tokyo. Love driving this track and surprisingly thre Renault RSO isn't to bad on it. Am worried though about the carnage that might happen when there are actually 20 cars racing this fast, narrow track!!!!!

 

[Pigems]

I usually use Suzuka for testing, it’s got a little bit of everything.

 

[MCL1974]

I'm actually contemplating running the Slophy. Only reason, is due to loving the new Gordon Murray T.50.

Hear me out. The Slophy is NA, lightweight, MR. It uses paddles instead of a floor shifter(the GR.4 86 is the only one that uses an H-pattern gearbox). It's the closest thing to the T.50. The 4C would be my preference, but it uses a turbo. Yeah, the Slophy is a V6, but that's half a V12.

T.50 wasn't made to be the fastest at anything and I'm convincing myself to try and say the same about the Slophy. Skipping any type of braking and handling advantages for trying to replicate/pretend using a faux T.50-type GR.4 race car.

If PD could get the okay from GM to make a Gr.4 T.50 in GT7, sign me up for a pre-order.

Raced the Renault this season and can tell you the Trophy is really stable, has good brakes, fun to drive and quite economical on tyres and fuel but the straight line speed is low, and that can be frustrating on trakcs like Monza, Fuji, RBR etc. on Laguna Seca and Sardegna it is awesome though.
The RSO can be a real bitch to handle.

 

[Benay79]

I honestly forgot about Dodge. Both the Gr. 3 and Gr. 4 cars are solid but fly under the radar, right?

Seems like their cover has been blown judging by how many on here are considering Dodge! I’m tempted to stay with Dodge as I love driving them and have had some great results. (But I usually like to pick something not many other people drive and you guys are putting me off now )

edit: oh and I always seem to use Interlagos for my testing!

 

[GTWolverine]

I think the F1500T is easier to drive than the X2019.

Looking forward to finally using the red bull again so have come up with a GTPlanet livery to use.

https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gts...arLivery/livery/1632971/1/5693187721666756608

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• Adam Barber
• Aug 6, 2020

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• Adam Barber
• Aug 6, 2020

You actually got a design on the front wheel cover? I seem to remember my vector glitching out whenever I tried to center it on the wheel cover. That car in general has weird and glitchy surfaces.

 

[Moon_k]

Me I'm simple...
It's SubUwU (Subaru) or nothin

 

[Adam Barber]

I think the F1500T is easier to drive than the X2019.

You actually got a design on the front wheel cover? I seem to remember my vector glitching out whenever I tried to center it on the wheel cover. That car in general has weird and glitchy surfaces.

Yup it's not perfect, sometimes you've just got to adapt and play with the depth/angle sliders

 

[Fennario]

Would pick Mitsubishi but for the chirp/whoo the Gr.3 makes when upshifting... absolutely drives me nuts. Options being mulled right now are: Subaru, Jaguar, McLaren, Ferrari, or VW. I drive VW's the best in both Groups, but feel that they are overrepresented and am very tempted by some of the others - particularly McLaren.

 

[MCL1974]

Seems like their cover has been blown judging by how many on here are considering Dodge! I’m tempted to stay with Dodge as I love driving them and have had some great results. (But I usually like to pick something not many other people drive and you guys are putting me off now )

Sorry.....