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[Zorz]

Manufacturer Series Round 5
No home advantage for the Mitsubishi. This was a rough, rough race.

Qualified P11 with a 1:38.213 and tried 7M/8S/8S which may have been a mistake now in hindsight. I thought I'd slowly slip back and steal slipstreams from people for a bit then push forward once things had spread out, but I just kept getting mugged down the home straight by anyone I did pass.

I picked up a 3 second penalty for a very light tap on the car in front going into turn 1 on lap 9. I'll admit I should have braked ever so slightly earlier, but very frustrating considering how much pushing around there was that went unpenalised, and I think the penalty doomed me. Lots of dirty driving going on in this one, such as an Aston Martin that swiped right coming out of the tight hairpin section at the start of sector 3 when I was partially alongside, and a BMW that kept moving across directly in front of me heading into Coca Cola even though he was bare millimeters ahead. The first time he did it I was able to back off, but the second time he hit my front-left and damn near sent me into a spin. No penalties for either, of course.

Finished P14, 78 points. One and done, I can't imagine any good coming out of going again. All the disadvantages down the straights and none of the advantages from braking and handling because moving through groups is difficult and it's not possible to get enough distance on them to stop them slipstreaming straight past you once you exit the final turn.

 

[MCL1974]

door number 8, qualified 11th

Got away okay at the start but after turn 2 a BMW spun, hit me on the door with his nose while i tryed to avoid it, so obviously my mistake and got a penalty.
I started on mediums (1M/7S/7S/8S) so pitted after that first lap and was last after exiting the pit. I had good pace so took me only a few laps to catch the others.

But overtaking is pretty much impossible, got 3 ******** penalties and when i made a mistake myself and accidentally rammed an Audi i got offcourse no penalty.???? there is absolutely no concistentie in the current penalty system!!!!🤬

maintained a good pace though and at lap 21 I catched up with car number 9, a British WRX driver. I was much faster but he pulled all the dirty tricks in the book; blocking, moving under braking, ramming etc, , guess who got the penalties?🤬

Finished 10th and SR to B. the last two races i did were awesome with a lot of good and fair drivers, but this was an oldfashoined one....

Anyway, practicing for Goodwood now, let see what I can do in a B lobby....to all who will have a go later today: good luck, it is brutal at Fuji!!!

one more thing: really like both the Gr3 and Gr4 Peugeots till now!!!!

 

[DK]

That was the sweatiest final sector I've had in a while.

I managed to qualify my Honda in 2nd thanks to a tow, but I screwed up my chance to improve thanks to that damned final sector, so I had to slot in between a Merc and a Porsche. I barely hung onto 2nd on the run down to T1, and I eventually succumbed on the main straight as lap 2 began.

And that's when the trouble started. The Honda was no match for Porsches, Astons, Dodges or Nissans along that front straight, and that wasn't helped as I picked up a track limits penalty for hitting the bollard on the inside of Coca-Cola on lap 4. I pitted for another set of softs and a fuel top-up on lap 8, emerging in 10th and clean air, but that didn't last long as I caught up with the pack by Dunlop on lap 9. I spent the last few laps of that stint stuck behind what can only be described as a Nissan GT-R undergoing the Cherenkov Effect due to all of the Monster logos on it. If it went wide in the final sector, it just blasted back past on that main straight. If it went too deep into T1, it just blasted back past on the run down to Coca-Cola. If it went too deep into T6...you get the idea. I pitted at the end of lap 16 for one last top-up and some mediums.

Thankfully, the radioactive GT-R had to take on much more fuel than me, giving me some breathing space as I caught up with a train from 2nd to 7th. Unfortunately, the Honda's straight line deficit came into play once more, and there was way too much saido-bai-saido for my liking. It all came to a head on the final lap, as I dived to the inside for Dunlop against the 4th-placed Dodge...who then got bashed out of the way by 6th and 7th place, but just about hung onto 5th as I escaped just ahead to claim 121pts and nearly 2.5kDR.

 

[Ashthebash]

Well...

I like Fuji, but not it seems in the Ferrari, where the car just feels like it wants to let go all the way through the final sector. Entered the first slot along with @Lost Sheltie

I didn't expect much from the race, I expected even less from qualifying and that's what I got. A 1:37.2 putting me 18th on the grid.

Started on mediums with the intention of running 6M/8S/9S and the first laps went to plan. On L4 a car which had come back down the field due to an incident gave me a nudge wide out of the final corner - worst place ever! Lost two places. On L5 the same car goes deep into the chicane, I give plenty of room going past but he hits me and I get a 2s penalty. So after serving the penalty I decided to take my first stop a lap early so not to be slower all the way down the straight and run two nine lap stints.

My second stint was effectively spent behind the other Ferrari in the race, a couple of racers emerged from the pits in our way, the race got a bit fighty, so with pressure from behind and cars close ahead I pitted at the end of L13 rather than lose time, committing to a ten lap stint on softs.

As it all shaked down I was chasing down a Corvette on mediums, with a decent run out of the final corner the Corvette went defensive, then decided to pull back into my path just before the braking zone and even going fully on the brakes earlier than normal couldn't stop me hitting the back of him, no harm done (really), no penalty, couple of corners later he's struggling around T4 and I give him the slightest nudge... 1s penalty. From there I kept going, eventually closed in on the Corvette on the final lap and passed as he seemingly ran out of fuel - and also seemingly tried to get in my way again as I crossed the line 15th.

I think without the first couple of incidents I would have taken a top ten, but it was just a messy race. On the 'plus' side, I've dropped back below 60k and may get into a more favourable split next race. I now fully appreciate where people are coming from with the points system. Since breaking 60k I've picked up low points from runs that would have been very nicely rewarded a couple of weeks ago. It is what it is though, and I want to get higher!

Race lowlights...

 

[HaydenFan69]

How are the later slots in the way of driver etiquette? Always found the first few slots to be pretty solid, but will be unable to have a go until at least the third or fourth race.

 

[Windfire1010]

There is a hole in my fuel tank.

 

[Lateralus5813]

Terrible, terrible, terrible race. What a chore, f that. Q15, finished P13. The initial laps with the mediums were trash + lots of bumps from other people put me in P19.
I think in the end 4 cars DNF, people must really hate Fuji, I myself almost rage quit after I accumulated 6sec of penalties during the second lap.

Yet, I'm here thinking of doing another slot without qualifying and then never race there again. Ever.

 

[barak181]

Terrible, terrible, terrible race. What a chore, f that. Q15, finished P13. The initial laps with the mediums were trash + lots of bumps from other people put me in P19.
I think in the end 4 cars DNF, people must really hate Fuji, I myself almost rage quit after I accumulated 6sec of penalties during the second lap.

Yet, I'm here thinking of doing another slot without qualifying and then never race there again. Ever.

I've learned not to hate Fuji as much as I used to. Maybe it's just because I've raced it so many times now - it gets used a lot. All I can say is practice, practice, practice. It's often a track where you have to actively avoid the incoming artillery and even then, you're not always successful. But I've found you can get better at it if you learn where people get aggressive and pushy and learn lines to get around them.

 

[05XR8]

I've learned not to hate Fuji as much as I used to. Maybe it's just because I've raced it so many times now - it gets used a lot. All I can say is practice, practice, practice. It's often a track where you have to actively avoid the incoming artillery and even then, you're not always successful. But I've found you can get better at it if you learn where people get aggressive and pushy and learn lines to get around them.

This.

Again, it's not the track. It's all about the racers. If people use a basic rue for following closely: BRAKE EARLIER THAN NORMAL, lots of carnage can be avoided.

Know your car: learn the characteristics, is it fast, slow, handles well, loose, good acceleration, good braking, easy to drive, does it suit your driving style? Figure those things out and learning a circuit becomes easier. It also coincides with the next point.
Racing etiquette: Patience. Why not follow a faster player or see how a player in the same car drives the circuit? Even during the race, you may learn more traits about your car and its limits, at a particular circuit.
Give room: Race hard, but fair
Don't block: it slows everyone involved
Learn the circuit: If it's a real world circuit, boot up some YouTube videos showing similar race cars racing at that track.



"You win some, you lose some, but you live... You live to fight another day."- John Witherspoon, Friday

 

[Lateralus5813]

I've learned not to hate Fuji as much as I used to. Maybe it's just because I've raced it so many times now - it gets used a lot. All I can say is practice, practice, practice. It's often a track where you have to actively avoid the incoming artillery and even then, you're not always successful. But I've found you can get better at it if you learn where people get aggressive and pushy and learn lines to get around them.

Sure practice makes it better and I was fairly consistent after putting on the softs. That last sector though...you can't always find the same angle for the corners, so pretty much every lap is a bit different. And after you missed the first entry things get weird, it's hard to explain. For me it's like gambling every single lap on that last part

Anyway,a I'm not a pro or any expert, but it's just bad design imo. The rest of the track is amazing btw.

 

[HaydenFan69]

Anyway,a I'm not a pro or any expert, but it's just bad design imo. The rest of the track is amazing btw.

I think Fuji should be a much better track than what it is. Two very hard braking points that should lead to more overtaking. Another out of the long right that if taken wrong opens you up to being run over by the field. A rhym section that is actually a challenge. But it just fails. Regardless of who’s on the track. F1, Super GT, even in GTSport, it just is either too easy or too difficult to get right. And the racing suffers.

The last part is about taking things carefully. If you hear tire squeal, you’re pushing it too much. And it will cost you time, and in GTS, it’ll result in someone probably running you over.

There’s a 8:30 ish slot Imma give it a go. Don’t really care for results. Just run my race. It’s going to be a mess into turn 1, so if I can get through there without issue, I think I can replicate the usual top 10 with a podium always a possibility.

 

[barak181]

Slot 1 was a level of carnage I haven't experienced in a while. People legit would have died in this race. Several, in fact. I'll do a full write up later, I have to try and salvage some DR in slot 2 now...

 

[Razgriz2118]

Whew, that was interesting. Lined up Door #11 (or 12, I forgot already lol) with @Jwptexas , @GTWolverine , a few other regulars, and everyone's favorite short-tempered racer at the mid/high-A/low-mid-A+ level. I wasn't feeling confident about this race since in practice I couldn't get the Racing Softs to work to their potential, and I was wearing them out very quickly.

Qualifying wasn't too great, on my first lap with a draft, I messed up T3 and had to bail out. I qualified 13th without slipstream, the last of the Vipers in the race.

I started on Mediums and there wasn't too much carnage. There was a 911 behind me that kept going for moves that really weren't there, but they get a penalty and drop back, and I'm running in free air for most of the time, until I had a little defensive battle with a Genesis on Softs behind me. They pitted and I was again in free air, with occasional battles from people coming out of the pits. I pit at the end of Lap 9 for Softs, throw in a little fuel, and come back out in 13th. People ahead are on mediums and I'm able to make short work of them into T1 in the following laps, and I'm again in free air.

I come into the pits at the end of Lap 16 for my final Softs stint with a 1 second lead to the 911 behind me, which I knew I was faster than for the first half of my Softs stint, but they were faster at the end. I extended the gap to 1.8s, but then caught up with a dueling Viper and 911 ahead. The 911 goes wide and quits, giving me 9th, and on the final lap, I'm trying to pass the Viper ahead, who swerves all over the main-straight. I'm on their outside, but I can see on the radar the 911 goes for a massive dive-bomb into T1 and I delay my turn in to avoid contact with the Viper who gets tapped by the 911, dropping 2 positions, but remaining contact-less. The Viper goes slightly wide into the T6 hairpin, and I try to get the cutback, but I accidentally tap their rear. Luckily they don't spin, and I back-off to let them keep the position. I try to set myself up for a pass on the main straight, but they go hella narrow into T15 on the racing line, and it catches me out and I go into the run-off area to avoid contact. So I finish in P10 for 131 points. @Jwptexas came through with a victory and @GTWolverine finished 5th, congrats guys!

One-and-done for me. This isn't a strong combo so getting P10 with a pretty stacked room for my skill level was enough. Plus, I'm already behind on work that I need to do haha.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I have a certain notorious Viper driver in my lobby who’s normally in a higher split.

 

[DarkSideNet]

I have a certain notorious Viper driver in my lobby who’s normally in a higher split.

Not too happy after the last race either.

 

[KosmoKazi]

FIAGTC 2020-2021 Exhibition Season
Manufacturers Series
Race #5 - Gr3 / Fuji International Speedway

After missing the FIA events the last week, flew back from Asia in time today to give the Mfr's Series Race 5 at Fuji. I am afraid I'll miss some of the remaining weeks, so even though it was not going to be my best race, had to give it a go and log the points.

• Awake for 26 hours straight
• Jet-lagged
• My worst track
• No practice

What could go wrong?

And then, when I joined the first race slot, realized that the carnage at Spa in the Vipers had left me in the lower S SR bracket, so this race would be a mixed lobby with DR ranging from A (and S) to D... this should interesting! It also meant I would not see any familiar racers or GT Planet friends on the grid.

I quickly realized that the Porsche was going to be toothless as can be after struggling to a 1:39 in 15 minutes of FP before the race. Oh well, just survive it. And the lower SR split actually made it less likely I would end up in last place and lost more than 1000 DR, which would be the norm at a Fuji race.

Was a bit worried about the grid, when two people in front of me on the ~warm-up~ session got penalties for stupid things. On the ~warm-up~ session... this might be a struggle. And lost the first four minutes of the qualifying session after a bonehead held me up with terrible driving in Sector 3 after I spotted him a 3+ second gap to start the lap.

I eventually qualified 11th, avoiding others and thus missing out on a tow, and just vowed to run a clean race to just finish top-10 and get out of here. T1 was surprisingly clean (stayed way inside and the driver behind me was equally careful, thankfully, but I got an SR on the first lap when the guy in front of me was especially careful and I tagged his rear bumper slightly. I then got a 0.5 sec track limits penalty when the same guy didn't see me on the inside at the chicane and pushed me inside the apex... the usual... but after that the race was really pretty clean.

But the problem with the Porsche in the current BoP and this race was that with most people on Softs most of the race, it takes away from the one advantage that is useful at Fuji... the slow speed cornering traction and balance of the 911 RSR. On Softs, everyone is able to keep even. And the car is so underpowered that lap after lap, you just find yourself getting within the slipstream gap on the third section, then nailing the apex on the final turn, only to see others pull away off the apex anyway. And if someone makes a mistake on any other turn, they are pulling off the apex and recovering the tenth on the following straight. The Porsche was useless here. Oh well.

I made up one spot by avoiding penalties and maintaining a small gap on an Aston in the final stint when we were on mediums, and I could take advantage of the 911's one strength here. But that was it. Even when I tried to stay on a Corvette's bumper in the draft, it pulled away on the main straight. I ended up losing a few hundred points because two B-DR Vettes beat me, and settled for restoring my SR to 99 and collecting a measly 64 FIA points in the mixed lobby. Anyway, would not likely have done well in a tight A/S lobby, and all in all, was just good to get back on the track.

Could not keep the Vettes behind me at this event... the Porsche was just toothless, with the powerful cars able to run Softs most of the race.

Porsche 911 RSR (991) '17
Qualified: 11th
Race Finish: 10th (64 pts)
Door #7 (usually unlucky... but no worries this race)

 

[csmirnoff]

North America Slot 2... I didn't have high hopes with the McLaren as in my few TT laps I was 0.5 to 1s slower than drivers I can usually compete against. So a top 10 was going to be like a win.

219-point lobby, with @GTWolverine and @Winnie847. Thanks to a little bit of slipstream, I managed to get a 37.7 in Qualifying. Only left me P14 but I don't think I could have gone much faster.

Started on mediums, clean first corners, but then I was pushed off the track in the last sector, and with the dirty tyres, I ended up spinning as I reentered the track. From there, I was last and 10 seconds behind 19th, so the race was just about salvaging some DR. Made up a few places, had a couple of battles and only lost 15 secs to the leaders after starting the recovery. Considering the poor pace I had here, guess it was ok.

P15 at the end. Useless points and 700+ DR lost. Enough for the day.

 

[GTWolverine]

Once again, 2 and done for me.

Slot 1
I lost quite a bit of DR the last 2 weeks, so ended up in a slightly lower room than I'd been racing in recently, with the win worth 210 points. It was at that point that I decided I'd probably have to go again, because @Jwptexas was in my race and he'd been faster all week, so the best I could realistically hope for was 2nd and 201 points, which would've been my lowest score of my 4 so far. Naturally @Jwptexas put it on pole, and I qualified 3rd, with 2nd having gotten a tow from me on my fastest lap. At the start I hung with the 2 cars in front of me and eventually got to 2nd, right behind @Jwptexas, but headed into the chicane on Lap 3, 4th tapped 3rd into me and almost forced me off. After gathering it all back up, I was still in 2nd, but now several seconds behind the leader and off my rhythm. I eventually fell to 4th or 5th and was stuck squabbling with 3 or 4 cars, so I decided to 3-stop (had been debating on a 2-stop), since at worst I would just come out in other traffic. It almost worked, but someone divebombed me at T1 as they were coming out of the pits and I got a 1s penalty for it and lost 2 spots 🤬. I was running 6th on the last lap when 5th place spun out of the final corner so I inherited that spot for 175 points. I think @Razgriz2118 was the only Viper that didn't hit me coming out of the pits in either the race or qualifying .

Slot 2
@csmirnoff and @Winnie847 were the other GTP member in this race if I recall correctly. I qualified 2nd, finished 2nd. Pole and 3rd place also finished where they started. I actually led quite a bit of the race, but the polesitter/winner in a Porsche was way better on his tires. I'd been contemplating a 2-stop, and went 7 laps on my first stint in anticipation of doing 7s/7s/9m, but when I saw how easily the Porsche caught me in Turn 3 and the last sector, I knew I wouldn't be able to keep them behind on that strategy, especially after seeing them do 8 laps on their first Soft stint. Fortunately a large gap opened up behind 3rd place, so I pitted after 6 laps on my 2nd stint and took just enough fuel for the next 6-lap Soft stint, emerging in 3rd, which became the lead again when the Porsche pitted for more Softs as well, and the 2-stopping Ford GT pitted for Mediums to go to the end. I then pitted on Lap 19 for Mediums and fuel to take to the end, and came out of the pits in 2nd, having easily opened the gap between myself and the Ford on my Softs vs. their Mediums. Unfortunately the winning Porsche also 3-stopped and went longer on the Softs and was better on fuel, so he came out of the pits for the final time over 5s ahead of me, and finished about 6.5s ahead of me, with me having the same gap to the Ford GT in 3rd. 210 points makes this my lowest counted score in Manufacturer's so far, but I'm not risking it.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Between drivers with zero race craft who think trying to bulldoze me out of the way on the first lap is acceptable and getting a whopping 3 second penalty for “Colliding with another car” when I was the one who got hit, this was just a waste of my time. No result screenshot today. Qualified 10th and finished 9th, giving me 120 points and a damaged SR that I’m going to have to get back up. After tonight, I’m not exactly looking forward to racing at Fuji once again next weekend, but I’ll try to look at it as a clean slate.

And unsurprisingly, the aforementioned Viper driver won the race. No incidents with him at least.

 

[HaydenFan69]

Nice to see @TPC_Roam (don't know his username here, sorry) and @Trone_Colby in a run race. Yes, fun @ Fuji. But my god, the Mazda is slow. Qualified 17th by nearly 2 seconds, and that speed carried to the race. But thankfully GTS FIA races are fairly predictable. Had a few guy spin off the track, and found my way by the end of the first stint in 8th. Felt really good about the car and race. Took no fuel in the stop (probably cost me a spot at the finish), and fell to 11th before cracking the top 10 (thanks to another spinner) before pitting finally to mediums and taking fuel. By then was by my own until that last 3 laps where I ran wide at the previous post mentioned left after the long 180 degree right. A lonely Renault caught up, and forced me to work that little Mazda for all it was worth to keep the spot, to which allowed me to finish 10th. Solid return to racing, though I promptly discovered I might be in for a long second half of the season.

But what bothered me the most was my lap time. Best was a no so brisk 1:39.5. Over 2.5 seconds off the overall Fast Lap, and nearly 4 tenths off the nearest competitor. Haven't looked at the remaining calendar, but anymore long straights like Fuji and we might have a problem.

 

[roamingbard13]

Nice to see @TPC_Roam (don't know his username here, sorry) and @Trone_Colby in a run race. Yes, fun @ Fuji. But my god, the Mazda is slow. Qualified 17th by nearly 2 seconds, and that speed carried to the race. But thankfully GTS FIA races are fairly predictable. Had a few guy spin off the track, and found my way by the end of the first stint in 8th. Felt really good about the car and race. Took no fuel in the stop (probably cost me a spot at the finish), and fell to 11th before cracking the top 10 (thanks to another spinner) before pitting finally to mediums and taking fuel. By then was by my own until that last 3 laps where I ran wide at the previous post mentioned left after the long 180 degree right. A lonely Renault caught up, and forced me to work that little Mazda for all it was worth to keep the spot, to which allowed me to finish 10th. Solid return to racing, though I promptly discovered I might be in for a long second half of the season.

But what bothered me the most was my lap time. Best was a no so brisk 1:39.5. Over 2.5 seconds off the overall Fast Lap, and nearly 4 tenths off the nearest competitor. Haven't looked at the remaining calendar, but anymore long straights like Fuji and we might have a problem.

Yep, that was me!

I had a decent race today. The Ferrari seems pretty average around Fuji, but I put a bunch of laps in to get comfortable and off I went.

p4 to p4 for me. A couple of heavy hitters for that split in the race, and I finished behind them all after being too passive for the first two laps. I let a couple people by at T1 and got held up when they couldn’t run the second/third sector. By the time I got around, slip was long gone so I decided to play it safe and try fuel save a little. 145 pts for the effort. Best score with a ferrari this season.

 

[RX8 Racer]

Last night was a long one....

Race 1:

Due to my A SR from grinding SSRX for Mileage, I started from 7th in a mixed lobby.

I was able to climb up the order, reaching 3rd before the Lexus in 2nd completely binned it out of Turn 15 on lap 17, handing me 2nd. I briefly lost 2nd to JO-so_, an A+ driver who had bulldozed his way up from 16th racking up 8 seconds of penalties in the process. After taking 2nd, he inexplicably pitted on lap 21 to change his usable Softs for another set of Softs, handing 2nd back to me. I finished 2nd with JO-so_ in 3rd, but it would be a pyrrhic victory for JO-so_, who had completely destroyed his SR in the process, losing his A+ DR as a result.

77 points was a decent haul, but I was convinced that I could get more. That might have been a mistake....


Race 2:

My qualifying was much closer to my expectations, starting from 12th on Mediums. My race was marred by a silver NSX that outright punted me off at Turn 1 on Lap 4 despite me leaving the inside wide open. He gets a 2 second penalty, but nearly spins me out twice in Turns 1 and 3 the following lap, before rage quitting out of Turn 4 for a 1 second penalty for the second Turn 1 incident. I try to recover the time lost by trying to catch up to 10th, but the grey Audi in 12th had other ideas, deciding to fight me over 11th. By the time he got past, 10th was 3-4 seconds ahead. I was not happy with the Audi, to say the least. I would have finished a dismal 15th after the final series of stops, but 2 incidents in the dying moments of the race (one of them involving the Audi) put me up to 12th for 66 points.


Race 3:

I started from 10th on Softs, but I got ruined by the collision physics on lap 2:



The Hatsune Miku Viper bungles Turn 1, causing the Porsche and I to run into each other, sending the Porsche into a spin and handing me a stupid 4 second penalty. Things don't get better, as my second Soft stint was ruined by heavy traffic, leaving me in 14th with 53 points.

Race 4:

This race can be summed up in this video and photo:

WHAT. THE. HELL.

Yes, I did run into him at Turn 8, but I gave the place back. This GT-R then decides to pit, but doesn't shift right immediately out of the final corner. Since he was on the left side, I had to overtake him on the right. Instead of simply backing off, letting me go and going into the pits like a normal person, he shoves me into the pit wall and ruins my race. I was not happy (Volume Warning). The fact that I managed to finish 12th for 57 points was a miracle.


Race 5:

I was able to start 5th on the grid with Softs, and I finally got the clean, competitive race I wanted. While the silver NSX from Race 2 was here, I had no incidents with him, and finished 6th for 87 points.

I tried Goodwood Gr.4 in Custom Race, and I have no idea how you are supposed to make a clean pass there, especially with that cancer of a final chicane. Wednesday is either going to be a procession or everybody goes lawnmowing.

 

[HaydenFan69]

I tried Goodwood Gr.4 in Custom Race, and I have no idea how you are supposed to make a clean pass there, especially with that cancer of a final chicane. Wednesday is either going to be a procession or everybody goes lawnmowing.

You don't pass. You sit and wait for the guy in front to mess up. As boy, we all will.

Main part I noticed was Madgwick and Woodcote could be places where if you get wrong just by a few feet or mph, you're into the weeds. And of course St. Mary's will take out 3-4 guys on lap 1, and probably another handful at the chicane. Overtaking can by down start the double right "hairpin", as if you get a run on someone out of St. Mary's, you should be able to at least take a snif at the position in front.

Will be a race I am glad I have the Atenza land yacht.

 

[kungtotte_]

Between Madgwick and St Mary's is your best bet for a clean overtake, as all it takes is for someone to be a little off on their line through Madgwick as you say. A little bit off there is easily 3-4 tenths by the time you get to Fordwater, so a trailing car getting a clean run through there will be sailing by at the end of the straight assuming the guy in front doesn't drive like a weaving jackass.

Muscling through at Lavant is probably going to work out too, if you can bully through on the first right-hander you might block their acceleration long enough through the second right-hander that you prevent them undercutting you.

Haven't tested any fuel or tyre wear yet so I don't know if we'll need to pit or not, but if we do it'll be Tsukuba all over again: Time your pitstops well because pitting out into traffic will suck out loud. At least it's a one-compound race so it'll be easier factoring in everyone else's strategies, as the only variable will be fresh vs. worn tyres.

 

[RX8 Racer]

Haven't tested any fuel or tyre wear yet so I don't know if we'll need to pit or not, but if we do it'll be Tsukuba all over again: Time your pitstops well because pitting out into traffic will suck out loud. At least it's a one-compound race so it'll be easier factoring in everyone else's strategies, as the only variable will be fresh vs. worn tyres.

15 laps, 2X Fuel, 4X Tyres, Hards only.

Fuel and tyres are not an issue, so you're spending the entire race trying to stay on track and praying someone doesn't run you off.

 

[Razgriz2118]

You don't pass. You sit and wait for the guy in front to mess up. As boy, we all will.

Main part I noticed was Madgwick and Woodcote could be places where if you get wrong just by a few feet or mph, you're into the weeds. And of course St. Mary's will take out 3-4 guys on lap 1, and probably another handful at the chicane. Overtaking can by down start the double right "hairpin", as if you get a run on someone out of St. Mary's, you should be able to at least take a snif at the position in front.

Will be a race I am glad I have the Atenza land yacht.

Yeah, that's the reason why I'm sitting this round out. The last time I tried driving this circuit was for a Daily Race a long time back in the Clio, and I found it miserable. I haven't driven it in a while so maybe it's because back then I sucked more, but I couldn't find braking points for the life of me, and while time trial-ing the circuit is find, throw in a ton of hot-tempered racers in those corners and it's a recipe for disaster.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Big fan of Goodwood, but that last chicane is heinous. Serves no purpose in a video game.

 

[05XR8]

I figure someone will use the Slophy with an alt account.

 

[kungtotte_]

I foresee a great many pinballing accidents through the chicane.

Follow someone hoping to get a run out of Madgwick and they bump the walls in the chicane, you bump them, ding-ding-ding penalties all around!

 

[Redneckchef]

I foresee a great many pinballing accidents through the chicane.

Follow someone hoping to get a run out of Madgwick and they bump the walls in the chicane, you bump them, ding-ding-ding penalties all around!

Yes, if you are too close behind. But also nailing a fast clean exit through the chicane usually leaves you set up for a good pass down the straight into turn 1. Worked well with the Clio and the minis, and last Gr4 daily there. An iffy exit by the guy in front while you get a solid launch is a solid half second to the finish line, much less turn 1