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Of course not, but I go by it honestly. I was mostly just calling him out because he made a hypocritical comment. I’m fully aware i spun you out last night also, I could’ve backed off after the first time I hit you accidentally, but I didn’t. driving that Mazda puts me in a red haze where I don’t think straight. It was mostly only caused by that guy driving half speed saving fuel in the middle of the track in front of us anyway. Otherwise I would’ve just stayed behind you since you were much faster in the straights.
Wasn't the best race for either of us lol.
I had a hard time remembering to avoid the lift off snap oversteer on the corvette coming into skyline and the esses. I would lose stability and control through the dipper. Just closing my eyes and hoping for the best. That put a few guys into my rear bumper in that race though :boggled:
 
I just did 2 full 30 Lap Race practices for the BB Raceway event, and I did different strategies each time to try and determine which one is quicker.

I ended up getting the same race time (to the nearest second), so my tests were inconclusive, cool.

And even when I think about how much time I lost through mistakes and what not, I still get the same race time.

I don't even think one is more risky than the other, they both have risks in different ways.
 
I just did 2 full 30 Lap Race practices for the BB Raceway event, and I did different strategies each time to try and determine which one is quicker.

I ended up getting the same race time (to the nearest second), so my tests were inconclusive, cool.

And even when I think about how much time I lost through mistakes and what not, I still get the same race time.

I don't even think one is more risky than the other, they both have risks in different ways.

Imo go with whichever strategy is going to be hindered the least by the traffic around you.
 
Imo go with whichever strategy is going to be hindered the least by the traffic around you.

That's pretty much my plan now but I could possibly have less traffic with either strategy. Also, traffic isn't necessarily bad at BB Raceway due to slipstream (as long as you can take Turn 1 the same way).
 
I think I‘ll stay away from that race :boggled:
Need to buy me a Huracan for Maggiore tho :dunce:
 
That's pretty much my plan now but I could possibly have less traffic with either strategy. Also, traffic isn't necessarily bad at BB Raceway due to slipstream (as long as you can take Turn 1 the same way).

Traffic can be bad, it depends on your strategy.

For example, when BB raceway was the daily a few weeks back - there were 2 main strategies going around.

Strategy A, 2 stops, tires/fuel each time, this would require minor fuel management.
Strategy B, 1 stop, tires and fuel, this would require much more fuel management, but was ultimately about 7 seconds faster.

People who weren't aware of these strategies would run all out and have to pit 3 times.

Most people weren't aware they could do strategy B, because only a few cars could manage it while still maintaining a reasonable pace (the new gt.3 lexus was amazing at it).

I was starting from pole all of my races as I was lucky enough to get a time in the top 10 and nobody faster than me raced at the same time, and I was doing strategy B, however the driver starting 2nd was usually doing strategy A. The problem was - I would go just fast enough to stay in front of them, but manage my fuel just enough that once they pit at lap 10/11, I would go to fuel map 6 - and just stretch to lap 15 (out of 30), once I came out of pit I could sit at fuel map 3 for the balance of the race and win it.

Basically, the guy behind me couldn't go fast enough to get around me, but was burning fuel faster than I was, which effectively ruined his strategy.

All I'm saying is - be ready to adjust on the fly, you don't know where you're going to qualify and you don't know what's going to be happening around you. Ovals and oval racing are 95% strategy.
 
Strategy for BB Raceway
Start 11th
Get slammed into the wall, get 5 second penalty, down to 19th
Get stuck behind group of guys fighting and slowing each other down
Get lapped
Gradually move up through the field following the top 3 guys, matching their pace with help of slipstream
Finish 13th.
Logoff, have beer, watch footy
 
Traffic can be bad, it depends on your strategy.

For example, when BB raceway was the daily a few weeks back - there were 2 main strategies going around.

Strategy A, 2 stops, tires/fuel each time, this would require minor fuel management.
Strategy B, 1 stop, tires and fuel, this would require much more fuel management, but was ultimately about 7 seconds faster.

People who weren't aware of these strategies would run all out and have to pit 3 times.

Most people weren't aware they could do strategy B, because only a few cars could manage it while still maintaining a reasonable pace (the new gt.3 lexus was amazing at it).

I was starting from pole all of my races as I was lucky enough to get a time in the top 10 and nobody faster than me raced at the same time, and I was doing strategy B, however the driver starting 2nd was usually doing strategy A. The problem was - I would go just fast enough to stay in front of them, but manage my fuel just enough that once they pit at lap 10/11, I would go to fuel map 6 - and just stretch to lap 15 (out of 30), once I came out of pit I could sit at fuel map 3 for the balance of the race and win it.

Basically, the guy behind me couldn't go fast enough to get around me, but was burning fuel faster than I was, which effectively ruined his strategy.

All I'm saying is - be ready to adjust on the fly, you don't know where you're going to qualify and you don't know what's going to be happening around you. Ovals and oval racing are 95% strategy.

They are 99% strategy now you can’t race anyone for fear of getting a penalty. The contact penalties are far more egregious and just plain illogical on ovals than road courses.
 
They are 99% strategy now you can’t race anyone for fear of getting a penalty. The contact penalties are far more egregious and just plain illogical on ovals than road courses.

True, forgot to take into account the awful penalties nowadays for tiny bumps.
 
Well today I will be able to take part in both the Nations Cup and Manufactuers races and I have quite a bit of experience
on both tracks now thanks to daily races.

Hopefully with my DR improvements it might mean I get some improved results in my overall standings.
 
For some reason I’m not able to get the 86 to work properly. What would be a good alternative for Lago Maggiore?
I’m tending towards the Viper. Which car are you guys gonna use?
 
For some reason I’m not able to get the 86 to work properly. What would be a good alternative for Lago Maggiore?
I’m tending towards the Viper. Which car are you guys gonna use?

M4 is good too.
 
For some reason I’m not able to get the 86 to work properly. What would be a good alternative for Lago Maggiore?
I’m tending towards the Viper. Which car are you guys gonna use?

As Spurgy 777 already commented I'm leaning towards using the M4 as well though I find it a touch heavy on the corners
and although I like the Viper I don't have the model required for this race yet.
 
Oh, GT SPORT, You are a very poor example of what you claim to be, ghosted cars, 10 sec penalties for no contact, thirty plus seconds of penalties for a blue S, there's nothing in the world that can compare
 
Used the 86 earlier and finally dipped into the 2.03s, the Ferrari is a pretty good option as well I found.
I also think I can dip into the 2:03s with the same car (2:04.2xx), I just need to get T4 right without crashing the same lap :boggled:
I love the new line through T4 though! It's such a small window of perfection it's such a rewarding feeling if you get it right :D
Oh, GT SPORT, You are a very poor example of what you claim to be, ghosted cars, 10 sec penalties for no contact, thirty plus seconds of penalties for a blue S, there's nothing in the world that can compare
Did you have a bad race?
 
Here's the footage from my FIA Win, including qualifying. Grid starts at 11:40, race starts at 13:40.

My strategy was to never re-fuel, and it went beautifully. I would shift up to 5th before Turn 2, and then shift up to 6th near the Turn 3 kink. Almost every other driver was using 4th in Turn 2, and 5th from Turn 3 onwards, and hence they were using so much more fuel per lap. I was only using 3.3% per lap.

They got to 50% fuel on Lap 11 meanwhile I got there on Lap 15, perfectly for the tire change. There really wasn't huge time gain from even using the lower gears in the race, especially as the Turn 3 kink sent many drivers wide a lot of the time if they were too quick, so I was able to take a more sensible racing line while saving fuel.

I tried to be careful and I did a good job of avoiding accidents early on. I also used 4th gear in Turn 1 from around the 10 lap mark in both of my stints, due to the rear tires making the car hard to control at the exit of Turn 1. I leapfrogged from 4th to a clear 1st in the pitstops, and I was able to keep a clear lead until the last few laps as I also had much less fuel between Lap 15-23 ish.

In the last few laps, TRL_MANURODRY was on my tail and you can see how that turned out.



I did a lot of practice and focused on different strategies, including whether a 2 stop strategy (only tires, Lap 10, Lap 20) would be viable. It was certainly viable time wise but would risk getting involved in accidents with others. Practice really does make the difference, as the Genesis wasn't even that good at BB Raceway, it was 2-3 tenths off the Toyota Gazoo on a 25 second lap

Hope you enjoy
 
did anybody else really struggle with tyres in the Aston on BB?

I had to do a two stop, tyres were dead on lap 10! top split race and a chance for me to net some sweet points but the tyres just went off quicker than warm milk, infuriating as I am always strong on ovals :(

edit: well done @VeeDoubleU
 
My greatest hits on Maggiore summed up in this 3 min 41 sec. video supercut.

Love the bit around 2min 50sec.

Took me down to sr B that one.

 
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It's been a while but had great results in both Nations and Manufacturers.

Nations, my pace was not good so I went for an early time slot using the Veyron of all cars (was best with it after trying all the Gr.4 cars). Someone mistimed exiting pit lane and came out right as I was doing my first flier. Thankfully, only cost me two positions and started 4th. Had one unfortunate incident in the race but it turned out okay in the end. 2nd was the best I could've done regardless but the points were quite good, certainly better than if I had entered an alien room. I'm bad at Maggiore and the FIA barriers only make that track even more of a struggle. I just cannot carry speed through the corners without understeer.

Manufacturers was straightforward. Get the pole and I was going to win. Well, didn't get it because I was driving for Hyundai instead of Toyota and I had no draft help in any of my fliers. No joke but I also started 4th in the race and finished 2nd. Tried to do a little fuel saving but wasn't feasible with the room's pace. Got close to getting a penalty a few times but got through clean.

Incidentally, my DR is the highest it's ever been, just short of 70,000. Flat out, that's far higher than it should be but it would nice if I can get over the hump so that I could say I briefly saw the top the mountain before the alien-vanche swept me back down to reality.
 
I was driving along at Maggiore minding my own business on lap 3 when suddenly FOOM flash of blue light and loud explosion and my power went out immediately. Transformer outside our house exploded and went outside and shone a flashlight up the pole and racoon was up there. So disconnection due to electrical disturbance by racoon was the official race classification. Country living.
 
Insane room for nations. I love Maggiore and i love the Citroen gr4.




And then we had manufacturers. It's incredible how some drivers cant make a single simple clean overtake to save their lives. Getting dive bombed on turn 1 of lap 1 on a freaking oval is a disgrace.

 
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