FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[Skinny McLean]

Ah I thought there was some way to look it up somewhere, I'm sure I've seen the big youtubers saying they are in the first, second etc split...

The game doesn't tell you directly what split you are in, but as the points awarded in the FIA races depends on the strength of the lobby (i.e. the average DR) you can naturally determine the lobby strength by looking at the points distribution page. This chart shows the relationship.

An example: if you are in a lobby where the winner will get 340 points the average DR is ca. 70000 (that would almost certainly be first split.)

Another example: if your friend was awarded 246 points for finishing third, the average lobby DR was around 55000.

 

[CodeRedR51]

even with brake balance at -5 you will waste rear tyres if too agressive.

Am I misunderstanding that -5 BB is more braking power at the rear? More rear braking power = faster wearing rear tires?

 

[Riptide]

Am I misunderstanding that -5 BB is more braking power at the rear? More rear braking power = faster wearing rear tires?

Other way round. -5BB is front brake strength.

 

[05XR8]

So is qualifying only 5 minutes now? I thought I read that somewhere.

My Nations was 10 minutes.

I think Manu was 5. Did go quick, as I only did two laps including a tyre change.

 

[watto79]

Attempt 1: "Forgot" to set a qualifying time.
Attempt 2: Had an epic fight for a podium ruined by a totally BS 6 second penalty for the lightest of touches that didn't affect anyone and ruined my race.
Attempt 3: Network error.

I'm starting the year in a bad mood with GTSport

If the next attempt goes badly I might lose my A+ rank

 

[Famine]

Finished in 4th, 18s off the winner, after being battered off the track and losing 12s recovering at Casio on lap 3.

6 and 6 on RMs, no fuel needed.

 

[RJBMonkey]

Qualified 15th after having my flying lap ruined by someone unghosting in the penalty zone and pulling onto the racing line as I was about to shoot past.

Race went well, doing a 2 stop with softs. Very last lap, fighting for 6th, 6th went off at corner before going under bridge (Degner?). I went round, just went a little wide and clipped the barrier with the slightest of touches. Game decided to act like I’d hit it square on at 200mph! I stopped dead and ended up with full damage, limping round watching people overtake me. Gutted.

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Went with VW for this season. Was thinking about Toyota, but felt there would be too many good drivers for them.

Ran into an unintended consequence of the new shorter qualifying tonight. The 2 guys in front of me ran off going into the Degners, and when the 1st managed to get back to the track he did just in front of me. Normally they would have just got out of the way, but with it being an essential one-shot qualy session he decided to carry on and basically blocked me for the rest of the lap. I ended up 13th (1.3 seconds off pole) and he ended up 16th (6.5 seconds off pole).

Race went ok, had some good midfield tussles with a couple of drivers. Basically sat at the back of any guys and just saved tyres, and it seemed to work as my tyres were pretty good at the end of each stint. Managed to pick up a few places, but Suzuka is difficult to overtake so only managed to get up to 10th by the start of the last lap. Fortunately the guy in 8th was one stopping and he came together with the guy in 9th so I was able to jump both of them.



Pretty sure I could do better, but I am trying to stick to my one race philosophy.

 

[breeminator]

Ran into an unintended consequence of the new shorter qualifying tonight. The 2 guys in front of me ran off going into the Degners, and when the 1st managed to get back to the track he did just in front of me. Normally they would have just got out of the way, but with it being an essential one-shot qualy session he decided to carry on and basically blocked me for the rest of the lap. I ended up 13th (1.3 seconds off pole) and he ended up 16th (6.5 seconds off pole).

I did predict it would make it even more of a lottery, but people seemed to like the idea of it being "high stakes".

 

[stpatty]

Qualified 7th at Suzuka. First lap saw the inevitable offtracks. Two were sucked off at turn 1 and another went off later during the esses. I was up to 4th and the Mazda in 3rd (who qualified one spot ahead of me and put me off on my flying lap during qualifying) went wide at 130R. Start of lap 2, he went off at the first corner.

We were fairly consistent in the top 3 for the next few laps. I started to close on the Renault in 2nd but we were pretty much even over the whole lap, and I made a mistake at Spoon on lap 4. At the end of lap 4 me and the Renault pitted, the leader in a Porsche didn't. I was quite deflated at this point because I figured the Porsche was one stopping on harder tyres than me, and he'd be uncatchable.

During our outlap the Renault comes out right behind another Porsche. We closed in on him until the Degners where the leader had gone off and was sideways by the time we'd caught up. I think we were around 9 seconds back after the pit stop, so that'll show you how much of a mess he'd made. I knew then it would be between me and the Renault for the win, and it turned out that leading Porsche had been on softs. I've no idea why he was one stopping.

Later on lap 5 the Renault was right behind the other Porsche on the back straight. He made a clean move with some contact work at 130R, and I followed him past to the left of the Porsche who was compromised. I then ended up going for a send on the Renault but got bumped in the process by the Porsche. The Renault went off and I felt bad and was going to let him pass, but he made contact with the Porsche when he came back and I didn't want to get sucked into a fight, so I went on. The Porsche hadn't pitted at this point and started braking for the chicane at the 100 board. Bad move.

After that I spent the next 7 laps trying desperately to channel my inner Hizal and run away. Fortunately I was still quite evenly matched with the Renault. I think in the second lap of our last stints I set a fastest lap of 2:00.5, then he quickly crossed the line with a .4. It was a good fight, and it's a shame it got interrupted the way it did. Especially in the chat after when he told me he wasn't my brake pedal. Hopefully he has a look and sees that wasn't the case.

Anyway, first FIA win with a wheel. B O Y E.

I finished 3 and a bit seconds ahead of 2nd and about 20+ ahead of 3rd, so despite the car advantage it's interesting to see both the variation of skill level down here as well as how, I can, be better than this. Feeling good about the game right now.

 

[stpatty]

My qualifying was a shambles tbh. I did a fuel burning out/in/flying lap combo, think I crossed the line with a second to spare for the last one. Took me about the first sector to calm down.

 

[Hasnain282]

Was my first FIA race since the first Exhibition Season and as I didn't do many races in the Ferrari last time, I decided to stick with it. Wasn't expecting to do too well though as it was a relatively quick lobby by my standards and tyre wear was an issue. Managed to get a clean lap in quali though I did play it very safe, which actually worked out decently as a load of people messed up their laps. The race went pretty decent other than losing a couple of positions behind someone who was trying the overcut, but a result better than I was expecting going in to it which I'll take.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Streaming my session.

Edit: offline

 

[Sean YZF]

Only had time to do the last race at Suzuka tonight. Qualified 4th. Lead 3 had a nightmare from T1 and through curves, all clean, allowing the pack to catch up, then, some of the dirtiest driving I've come across, multiple players deliberately ramming other players off track, sat back the 1st time one w anchor left the race line to purposefully hit me and watched different groups punt each other off. Just protected my SR and enjoyed the utter lack of race craft. All were SR S, how they achieved that I have no idea

 

[Jujar100]

Thought I’d give Hyundai a go even though I’m not expecting much success! But pretty happy with the result so maybe I’ll do better than i think!

Qualified 12th. Kept it steady and watched as everyone in front pretty much fell off the track. Got a stupid 5 second penalty for hardly anything, with a slight touch of a car in front, which didn’t cause anyone to lose speed or control and got penalised for it.

A slow and a painful rebuild of my DR after getting a reset in the daily’s a month or two ago

 

[CodeRedR51]

Well, started P1 which was a shocker for me. Did not expect that at all. Immediately I realized my RM/RM one-stopper was not going to go as planned. Still stayed with a one-stopper but put RS on for the last stint and just tried to hang in. Managed to keep the guy behind me at bay and brought it home a solid P4 with 232 points. I could try again with an all RS two-stopper but things might not go as smoothly and Gr3 is not my greatest strength so I'm going to bow out for the day.

Edit: Just checked the replay, I was the only idiot on RM's to start the race.

 

[praiano63]

Nice suzuka race on main account , 201 points for a second place.
Bad qualif , start in 5th position and stayed blocked 4 laps by slowers cars.
Second half of the race was more quiet , just maintaining a good pace staying concentrate.
Love this Renault.

 

[Pigems]

The first race of the season in the Jag went pretty well tonight, despite a rough start. Qualified 2nd and the race started off ok, but a couple of laps in a guy tried to go two wide through the fast left corner right before the final chicane and bumped me off the track, he got 2s for it and I lost 3 positions in the process. I decided to stick with it and managed to claw my way back to 2nd in the end, 19s off the leader by then though. I had a pretty sweet pass going into spoon on the 10th or 11th lap to get back to 2nd, that was probably the highlight of the race. Really liking the Jag so far, I feel like it was a good choice.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Really really really like the new short qualifying session.

Did I mention that I like it?

Best change to the FIA races since their inception IMO. One flying lap is how qualifying should be. And it’s nice to have a few extra minutes to find a space on track during your warmup lap.

Qualified on pole in an FIA race for the first time in at least a year and a half, in what I think was the 3rd split. Finished 4th due to the accelerated tire wear with the combination of controller and Mazda. I got beaten by two Porsches and a Peugeot RCZ so I thought I represented the front engined contingent well.

EDIT: according to the stats on my profile the last time I got an FIA pole was during the 2018 PRE-SEASON. 2020 is off to a good start then.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Really really really like the new short qualifying session.

Did I mention that I like it?

Best change to the FIA races since their inception IMO. One flying lap is how qualifying should be. And it’s nice to have a few extra minutes to find a space on track during your warmup lap.

Same. I waited to go out last and just cruised around the first lap trying to save the tires. Then ran what I thought was an 'ok' lap that ended up P1 by 0.135. Puts everyone on a pretty level playing field for sure.

 

[GTWolverine]

Did the first slot for the Manufacturer's championship in my Corvette as always. I ended up qualifying 10th and highest of the 4 Corvettes in the race, with 'Vettes also in 11th, 12th, and I think 15th. Given my tendency to finish worse than I start when using my new G29 (but generally having faster overall pace than when I was on a controller), I was a bit nervous about even being able to hold onto the top 10, not to mention trying to keep the other Corvettes behind me. I picked up a spot at turn 1 after someone inevitably went wide, then another spot later on in the lap. I also passed a Mazda trying a 1-stopper on Mediums and was up to 7th before nearly throwing it away in the Degners on lap 4 and picking up a 0.5s penalty. That let the Mazda back by me and I was down to 8th when I pitted on lap 4. I stupidly forgot to cancel refueling (I was planning to take a spalsh on my final stop when I'd have less traffic to worry about) and got leapfrogged by the Corvette behind me and got stuck behind a Porsche that hadn't pitted. Going side-by-side into the Degners, the Porsche pushed my left sides onto the grass and I slid through the first Degner but somehow kept it on track. After that the rest of the race was just me slowly gaining on the Corvette and 1-stopping Mazda in front of me. In the end I was unable to affect a pass and finished 7th, just behind the lead Corvette in 5th and the Mazda in 6th. I also ended up with 136 points. It was a decent night at a track that I never would've even bothered racing in GR.3 if I was still using a controller. In the end I failed to keep all of the other 'Vettes behind me, but but I still finished 2nd highest of the 4.

 

[JEverettL]

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Thought I’d give Hyundai a go even though I’m not expecting much success! But pretty happy with the result so maybe I’ll do better than i think!

Qualified 12th. Kept it steady and watched as everyone in front pretty much fell off the track. Got a stupid 5 second penalty for hardly anything, with a slight touch of a car in front, which didn’t cause anyone to lose speed or control and got penalised for it.

A slow and a painful rebuild of my DR after getting a reset in the daily’s a month or two ago

As the season progresses I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Its a solid performer that doesn't have a split personality. Looking at you Ferrari...

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I qualified 6th in today's race but my position was gone in a flash as I completely understeered into the sand on turn 1, dropping me to 15th. I shook it off and kept going and utilized a two-stop strategy on softs. It worked out, as after my second pit stop on lap 8, I made it up to 9th. And on lap 10, I was back in 6th, thanks to the drivers ahead me that had penalties or needed to pit. The last few laps were pretty intense as I was trying to stay ahead of 7th, who was a second or so behind me. But I kept it together and finished the race where I started. I was only going to one-shot this, so I'm glad I managed to compensate for my mistake at the start.

 

[CurbHog]

First race of the new year was a win! Did plenty of practice in lobbies and I felt comfortable with the Aston Martin. Granted, this was not a top lobby but I had 13 on the door and it was all BS drivers.
I qualified first in the new short 5 min qualifying format (rather have 10 min)
Once the race started, i was not threatened at all. The cars behind me got caught in some tussle and could not recover. On the last lap I was 10 sec ahead of 2:nd.
Not many points from the Manu race, but DR gain was 1500. So a win is a win.
Happy new year.

 

[Hygrade B]

Ok will this week is over.
Had some very bad qualifying both days, in fact in each one.
Am I wrong to say if you screw up your qualifying and a car is very close don't you let them go? or do you get in that cars way, even if the car catch you up & then let's you go but catch you up again before next corner?
Ok that happened in each Qualifying both spa & Suzuka.
The one semi good qualifying(Suzuka) I came out know it's my out lap thinking, do my thing save you tyres. So people behind me start to push from the 1st corner, ok I let you all go because it's a out lap & I guess you have your own plans. Now on my 1st Qualifying lap, three of the cars that passed me after the S section was just infront of me at the last corner just before the pits, so now these cars are going to mess up my lap, I gave you 5sec gap?
Ok let keep calm do my thing be careful because these cars are slower & maybe will see this at some stage & let me pass so they don't ruin there Q & mine. So end if my 1st lap still behind 2 of the 3 cars now (1 spun out) both cars carry at the 1st corner by the pit lane both cars take each other out, following each other off the track, I took it easy so I do t get hit when they try find back on.
Behind me now is a car just out off the pits up Infront about two corners away is p1 I am p3, but wait my lap was not great but you know what I take that and be happy. I start pushing
n i hard. Then noticed the 1st place driver was just infront of me and went off just before the bridge, I hit another purple by 1sec Ooo that's 1st nice this is going good , behind me is the second place driver enough space so I not to bothered about the corner. We come down the long straight before the fast bend I hit purple & it was1sec again, the FL was only 203. Infront on the radar I see two cars, I thinking I am ok coming down the straight nothing can go wrong. Why would I think coming to the last corner before the pits both cars are Infront of me I have no choice but to slowdown don't hit them and just deal with the time I have it's still good for maybe 2nd. But no the car behind me decided it wanted to spoil my lap & took my out I ended up 5th..
So now the race I in 5th I can maybe get 2nd or at a push 1st.
Race starts I am on RS thinking 1 stopping on RS or go to RM, 1st corner I am close to 4th place pull up along side just before the corner but took it easy not to pass & give lots of space, Infront of us 3rd place lost it on the bend then 6th place behind me didn't brake just missed me & hit the 3rd place car off track.
Ok good start 4 me 1 less infront & behind, on the S I got way to close to P3 which means it could be weak spot but I'll wait & see, gave space & watched 2 & 3 fighting on the S, not a good place but ok do your thing, P3 get pass with a by pushing P2 wide. This lets me know what type of drivers Infront. So I just watch I stay within a sec when on the straights & back off on all corners. Now I am loosing lots off time we still only doing 204.0
On the second lap everyone is on RS. P1 is about 7sec ahead and got FL doing 202.6. ok that's to slow 204.0 so I push P3 passing the car out off the air pin (watching the video I gave to much space) but yet P3 decided to take out my rear and off cause get a penalty, ok I lol it's time to push P3 until it makes a mistake & I pass, now I lost a good amount off time & P5 was there to benefit, but I was not letting P3 get away I gave P5 enough space to fight which was fun but I know I had the pace to get away. By the end lap 4 I decided to undercut P3 & pit early. Come out P5 on lap 5, P2 pitted Infront of me coming out in P3. So the car that was P3 Infront off me before I pitted was now P1. Ok now during lap 5, P3 lost it & was overtake by P4, start of Lap 6 the cars Infront pitted and as I planned out off the pits car the car that pushed me off the tracks, this time I was not going to be so soft as the car lost control I slip up the inside and watching the video I can see the car tried to take me out but I got away. Now in P3 again Infront of me is a new P2 & P1 has about 10sec gap we are on lap 8, I done my 1 & only stop I am on RS again. Pushing hard now I know I can pass P2 but my plan is catching up to P1. Every time on every lap when I am about to pass P2 I get push wide or when I about to pass in a corner I get my rear pushed so I go wide but I catch it each time so by lap 10 I can see P1 gap getting bigger. So I decided just keep close to P2 make it know you better driver faster or I will pass you, I decided to try a trick slip up the inside it when I see the car coming over to me on the radar just easy off a bit & it worked the car came straight over to hit me off but I braked hard & the car want straight off . P1 pitted from RM to RS gap was to big to win but I wanted to see how close I could get , I cut the gap down to 3sec from 13 before pit stop. In the end it was a good race besides some bad driving.
Spa.
Spa was just as bad but in the race I was told it was just a few friendly bumps & pushing because I was to quick afterwards
I was on Pole you guest it all was going good until I decided to save my tyres for a long run , on about lap 6 I was still P1 about to lap a car, the blue flags flashing then it went yellow which was ok because it was not me, but it was not ok the lapped car was parked on on the hill just after the pits, I made a mess off the hill which gave me a penalty, P2 was now close I had 1.5sec penalty for my mistake. P2 got right up close to me and I gave to much space on my inside which was ok until I got the 1st tap pushing me off , P2 got a penalty which was right, ok race is on time to take back my spot , each time I got up close and about to pass I got the tap as to say your fast but I am not clean racer. So for 5 laps we battled the other trick was brake checking until I was so close if I did not turn I would off taken us both out which I guess I should off. I lost the race on the line after the race I told the person your driving was dirty I was told sorry... Lol sorry you get to take the win and you know you was cheating. This is way I ask for more punishment for bad driving.

Will I to next week, I just stop being so kind, and start moving in braking zones , wiggle all I the track to stop you passing, brake check you so either you go off and loose your place or we both go off but you don't get by me. I could go on but I can't drive dirty it's not in me.
If I make a mistake I happy to say sorry & try give back the place and if I mess up and take you out when you about to win I will still slow down & try give you back that spot .

 

[breeminator]

Will I to next week, I just stop being so kind, and start moving in braking zones , wiggle all I the track to stop you passing, brake check you so either you go off and loose your place or we both go off but you don't get by me. I could go on but I can't drive dirty it's not in me.
If I make a mistake I happy to say sorry & try give back the place and if I mess up and take you out when you about to win I will still slow down & try give you back that spot .

In the long run, it's perfectly possible to drive very clean and get great results. There are very good drivers in top split with a reputation for being extremely clean. In many ways, you do better driving clean than dirty. When I've seen people driving dirty, most of the time they come unstuck at some stage. For example, take a look at this final lap from one of my races. A driver exhibits some questionable behaviour then goes flying off the track and we sail past him. Now, I'm just speculating, but I think it's possible he was so focused on possible retaliation from the driver he'd just rammed off the track that his attention wasn't on the upcoming corner.

 

[Hygrade B]

Nice race but that track is much wider than both this week's FIA..
I do understand your point..


What am I doing wrong?
I never get more than 30 points & I see other get 100?

Pls can someone clear that up 4 a newbie?

 

[Pigems]

Nice race but that track is much wider than both this week's FIA..
I do understand your point..


What am I doing wrong?
I never get more than 30 points & I see other get 100?

Pls can someone clear that up 4 a newbie?

The collective DR in each lobby decides how many points are available. So for example a room full of DR A+ will award more points per finishing position than a room that is all DR B drivers.

 

[Famine]

What am I doing wrong?
I never get more than 30 points & I see other get 100?

Pls can someone clear that up 4 a newbie?

"Please" and "for".

The points awarded in an FIA lobby are proportional to the total Driver Rating of the people in it. A lobby full of top, A+ rank drivers will score over 350pt for a win.

 

[roamingbard13]

Finally getting used to my G29. I’m still woefully high in the DR scale for my current skill, but I gave the manu a go tonight. I qualified middle of the pack, and then biffed it on the first corner. The second lap, I caught someone in the penalty zone who didn’t yield the racing line even though I was going 40mph faster. I barely clipped him on that high speed left turn before the chicane, he went off the track, and I took a 7 second penalty. Lame-o. Finished last.

My FL in free practice is a 2:00.629 now. That would have been the fastest QT by half a second in the lobby I’m in. I’ll be happy to get something in the 2:01 range for this race, and hopefully no errors.

2nd fastest FL in the lobby. Ready to under perform.