FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[bdubclub]

Couple snaps from my race:

Missed P2 at the line by 0.060, was super close!

That’s a good looking Genesis behind you.... I knew you had plenty of pace so the plan was to follow you up through the pack. Unfortunately got caught up and you vanished into the distance. Solid result from the back. 👍

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Back to back days where there was a great two car battle... that I was mostly watching. Can't really complain since I overperformed on combos that were not to my liking.

 

[CodeRedR51]

That’s a good looking Genesis behind you.... I knew you had plenty of pace so the plan was to follow you up through the pack. Unfortunately got caught up and you vanished into the distance. Solid result from the back. 👍

Was wondering if that was you.

 

[adokeeffe]

Round 2

Nations Cup @ Fuji

“I haven’t competed in a Nations Cup event for some months - I don’t find the usual Ferrari F50 Vs. Toyota S-FR Vs. X-Bow events all that interesting”
- Me, last week.

I may have spoken too soon there. Obviously I wasn’t looking forward to this particular event, something about the go-kart like handling of the S-FR brings out the worst behaviour in GT drivers, or maybe it’s the circuit. Although there was a broader mix of cars battling it out this round, and the F50 was nowhere in site. I chose the MX-5 Touring Car, and started from 12th on the grid after a rather average qualifier. I’ve so far steered clear of the Gr.2 Daily Race at Fuji to avoid SR suicide, so I haven’t had much time on the circuit, and haven’t driven the car in at least a month. But I really just wanted some points on the board at the end of it. A few laps in a GRMN GT86 knocked me off my line on the entry into Turn 3, before taking the wrong line and coming off. I couldn’t resist reciprocating, and gave them a knock as they attempted to re-enter, and was hit with a 2 second penalty (worth it). The same GT86 was then rammed off a lap or so later by an S2000 driven by a familiar and well respected name in the Oceania region. I’m guessing I wasn’t the only person the Toyota driver got on the wrong side of. But that was about it for the highlights - I’d made it as high as 8th, but wound up crossing the line somewhere around 10th, and eager to get behind the wheel of the Aston for the Manufacturers Round.

Manufacturer’s Cup @ Dragon Trail Gardens II

Despite being keen for another go in the Aston, I hadn’t practiced for this round other than the Gr.3 Daily Race at Interlagos. Qualifying didn’t go to plan either, rammed on the uphill right hander before the hairpin by an Alfa driver with no idea of a proper line on the circuit. Who approaches a right hand turn hugging the right side of the track? Later a BMW struggled ahead of me with the arch of the final sweeping bend onto the straight, and met my front bumper just as I was heading for a FL. Starting from 14th, I’d overtaken both drivers before Turn 1 was in view. Inside T1 the Repsol Jag collided with the rear end of a JPS liveried BMW M6, and then the front end, spearing into the barrier, before being boxed in by the BMW and a WRX heading down under the bridges.

I saw an opening and having held the right line and revs, flew by all of them, and as the paint swapping and penalties mounted, suddenly I was in 6th. Passing the penalty zone on Lap 2, I was 4th. I held 4th until Lap 6th, overtaking the Penrite BMW on the hairpin into the back straight. Unhappy with my overtake, they rammed my rear on the next lap, but that only served to push me further ahead, as I passed another driver pitting and climbed to 3rd. A substantial gap began to open, and I managed to catch site of the WRX in 2nd, but sensing the tires were at their limit I pitted for fresh Mediums on Lap 8. Emerging back in 3rd, I pressed on, and didn’t have to go far. Struggling with grip, the WRX was just in front on the uphill out of the multi-bend loop, but span out heading into the right hander. By this point I was ecstatic, but determined to remain focussed, remembering the disappointment of the Gr. 3 event at the Nurburgring last year. I caught glimpses of the Vittoria Coffee 911 in 1st place, but couldn’t make up the 7 seconds between us, crossing the line in 2nd.

 

[breeminator]

Was considering going with Lambo, thinking it might be OP for the next race at Tokyo. It's pretty good for free practice, certainly, did an EMEA top 20 time. Tried a practice lobby, and what a cluster of ducks, reminded me why I haven't raced Tokyo for a very long time. The Lexus seems super quick in the slipstream, sailed past me on the straight at the start, but then basically stopped dead in front of me once the slipstreams were reversed, so I had to stop dead, half the field went sailing past me. The final straw was when I was managing to very slowly pick my way back up through the field and was near an AMG. I passed him with the inside line at turn 2 after he had a slow turn 1, and gave him space on the exit. A few bends later, he tried to pass me, I gave space on the inside at the apex, but he didn't reciprocate giving space on the exit, instead slamming me into the wall. I could kind of put up with that, but the game gave me a 5 second penalty, so I just quit the lobby, what is the point.

 

[Benay79]

Was considering going with Lambo, thinking it might be OP for the next race at Tokyo. It's pretty good for free practice, certainly, did an EMEA top 20 time. Tried a practice lobby, and what a cluster of ducks, reminded me why I haven't raced Tokyo for a very long time. The Lexus seems super quick in the slipstream, sailed past me on the straight at the start, but then basically stopped dead in front of me once the slipstreams were reversed, so I had to stop dead, half the field went sailing past me. The final straw was when I was managing to very slowly pick my way back up through the field and was near an AMG. I passed him with the inside line at turn 2 after he had a slow turn 1, and gave him space on the exit. A few bends later, he tried to pass me, I gave space on the inside at the apex, but he didn't reciprocate giving space on the exit, instead slamming me into the wall. I could kind of put up with that, but the game gave me a 5 second penalty, so I just quit the lobby, what is the point.

I've re-signed for Lambo again this season purely based on the Gr.4 performance in last seasons races. Have missed the first 2 races as i struggled with the Gr.3 in practice on those tracks. I was thinking that the Gr.4 would be good at Tokyo and Interlagos etc. Don't feel quite as confident now with what you've just said

 

[koshmare]

Round 3 hot laps

 

[breeminator]

I've resigned for Lambo again this season purely based on the Gr.4 performance in last seasons races. Have missed the first 2 races as i struggled with the Gr.3 in practice on those tracks. I was thinking that the Gr.4 would be good at Tokyo and Interlagos etc. Don't feel quite as confident now with what you've just said

It's certainly good, I got pole ahead of a top Oceania driver, albeit using his slipstream. But I was a bit surprised by how poor it seems to be at overtaking other cars down the long straight vs being overtaken. Tyre wear is good, it's no problem to no stop it. It's possible it would be the fastest car for a 12 lap solo time trial. But jammed in the middle of a bunch of cars, it was a different story. Perhaps I should try a practice lobby with the AMG for comparison.

 

[larrybr07n]

I'm with Aston Martin which I found to be a joy to drive. On those long straights at Tokyo though, I don't think my Vantage will give me much advantage in power. So after a solid drive and an unexpected win at Gardens, my plan for next round will be to drive super carefully in lap 1, try to get unscathed past those who inevitably will go for the walls, and hopefully I'll bring home an acceptable result. My expectations are really low anyway

 

[juanito0585]

Had a great weekend at both nations and manufacturers races!

Nations: Qualyfied 3rd and made it to P2 at the checkered. Almost took the win in the last lap because of the leader taking a penalty but he covered the inside coming into T1 and I tried to brake in front of him after passing but we were still to close to one another. I guess I took it by surprised, so he hitted me and got another penalty. Luckily there was room behind us so I let him scape to victory and took a honest second place. The field was mainly toyotas, some porsches but none of them made it to the podium.

Manufacturers: I´m driving for Hyundai this season in a move to chase the S rank. After a good race in Suzuka I was looking for big points yesterday. Raced on first spot but my qualy time was pretty poor, ended up starting dead last. Managed to move up some places but onli got 105 points. So decided to race again on the second spot. Qualy was painfull again... P15. But some luck on lap 1 to survive carnage and good pace in the second part of the race allowed me to take P4. The last laps were full of overtaking, I´m sharing the video!!!!

After this round, I´m P1 at hyundai, P65 manufacturers overall on CSA and P29 at Nations CSA (P5 for Argentina)

 

[05XR8]

I'm with Aston Martin which I found to be a joy to drive. On those long straights at Tokyo though, I don't think my Vantage will give me much advantage in power. So after a solid drive and an unexpected win at Gardens, my plan for next round will be to drive super carefully in lap 1, try to get unscathed past those who inevitably will go for the walls, and hopefully I'll bring home an acceptable result. My expectations are really low anyway

Nah. I remember the Gr.4 Race at Tokyo. It was a Daily Race B. The British Bulldogs(Vantage and F-Type) were the cars of choice. I named it the AdVantage that week.

 

[Hasnain282]

I don't know if anyone else has encountered this but the penalty zones at Le Mans weren't working properly when I was doing some TT laps. as you'll see from the video below, the first one nothing happens, for the second one the notification pops up but it doesn't slow you down and only the final one seems to be working as intended.

Excuse the poor driving, it's not one of my strong tracks

 

[Winnie847]

Here’s my MFG race from last night at Gardens II. I went into this with only about 10-15 laps of warmup in the free practice session. Final slot of the night. I was mostly just trying to survive and keep it on track. Came so close to driving right into the wall at the beginning of lap 3, almost crapped myself.

 

[larrybr07n]

Nah. I remember the Gr.4 Race at Tokyo. It was a Daily Race B. The British Bulldogs(Vantage and F-Type) were the cars of choice. I named it the AdVantage that week.

Now you are getting me excited!

 

[Pigems]

Nah. I remember the Gr.4 Race at Tokyo. It was a Daily Race B. The British Bulldogs(Vantage and F-Type) were the cars of choice. I named it the AdVantage that week.

That ones of the main reasons I went with Jag this season, I feel like the schedule suits it well this season.

 

[Groundfish]

I did Manu. Entered a 99. Qual got blocked. 16-11, bad luck race, mixed room, since when are there b in with a during FIA?
Fun though lots of overtakes, and outtakes. Got 84.
Entered again, got second in a boring affair, 69 haha.
69 days of alt use, I get 69 points...First time driving the track much, it’s more fun to race on than drive....

 

[Ashthebash]

Fuel no issue for the Nations at Le Mans, would the Alpine just destroy it's tyres too quickly? (I will test a lot of this out later but a heads up is always a bonus!). Time-wise a one stop is quicker than a no stop but you need a clear run make the most of it

 

[Hasnain282]

Fuel no issue for the Nations at Le Mans, would the Alpine just destroy it's tyres too quickly? (I will test a lot of this out later but a heads up is always a bonus!). Time-wise a one stop is quicker than a no stop but you need a clear run make the most of it

That a no stop on mediums? Mediums are mandatory

 

[Ashthebash]

That a no stop on mediums? Mediums are mandatory

Yes. From my brief test with the Audi R18 softs are around 3s a lap quicker and you lose roughly 8-9s for a tyre stop. Mediums could run the whole race quite easily

 

[Underthewhip]

Round 2

Nations Cup @ Fuji

“I haven’t competed in a Nations Cup event for some months - I don’t find the usual Ferrari F50 Vs. Toyota S-FR Vs. X-Bow events all that interesting”
- Me, last week.

I may have spoken too soon there. Obviously I wasn’t looking forward to this particular event, something about the go-kart like handling of the S-FR brings out the worst behaviour in GT drivers, or maybe it’s the circuit. Although there was a broader mix of cars battling it out this round, and the F50 was nowhere in site. I chose the MX-5 Touring Car, and started from 12th on the grid after a rather average qualifier. I’ve so far steered clear of the Gr.2 Daily Race at Fuji to avoid SR suicide, so I haven’t had much time on the circuit, and haven’t driven the car in at least a month. But I really just wanted some points on the board at the end of it. A few laps in a GRMN GT86 knocked me off my line on the entry into Turn 3, before taking the wrong line and coming off. I couldn’t resist reciprocating, and gave them a knock as they attempted to re-enter, and was hit with a 2 second penalty (worth it). The same GT86 was then rammed off a lap or so later by an S2000 driven by a familiar and well respected name in the Oceania region. I’m guessing I wasn’t the only person the Toyota driver got on the wrong side of. But that was about it for the highlights - I’d made it as high as 8th, but wound up crossing the line somewhere around 10th, and eager to get behind the wheel of the Aston for the Manufacturers Round.
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Manufacturer’s Cup @ Dragon Trail Gardens II

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Despite being keen for another go in the Aston, I hadn’t practiced for this round other than the Gr.3 Daily Race at Interlagos. Qualifying didn’t go to plan either, rammed on the uphill right hander before the hairpin by an Alfa driver with no idea of a proper line on the circuit. Who approaches a right hand turn hugging the right side of the track? Later a BMW struggled ahead of me with the arch of the final sweeping bend onto the straight, and met my front bumper just as I was heading for a FL. Starting from 14th, I’d overtaken both drivers before Turn 1 was in view. Inside T1 the Repsol Jag collided with the rear end of a JPS liveried BMW M6, and then the front end, spearing into the barrier, before being boxed in by the BMW and a WRX heading down under the bridges.
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I saw an opening and having held the right line and revs, flew by all of them, and as the paint swapping and penalties mounted, suddenly I was in 6th. Passing the penalty zone on Lap 2, I was 4th. I held 4th until Lap 6th, overtaking the Penrite BMW on the hairpin into the back straight. Unhappy with my overtake, they rammed my rear on the next lap, but that only served to push me further ahead, as I passed another driver pitting and climbed to 3rd. A substantial gap began to open, and I managed to catch site of the WRX in 2nd, but sensing the tires were at their limit I pitted for fresh Mediums on Lap 8. Emerging back in 3rd, I pressed on, and didn’t have to go far. Struggling with grip, the WRX was just in front on the uphill out of the multi-bend loop, but span out heading into the right hander. By this point I was ecstatic, but determined to remain focussed, remembering the disappointment of the Gr. 3 event at the Nurburgring last year. I caught glimpses of the Vittoria Coffee 911 in 1st place, but couldn’t make up the 7 seconds between us, crossing the line in 2nd.
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Nice race pics. Appreciate them with the story!

 

[ivann]

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hoping I can keep this up.

 

[vvise]

Ludicrous racing, ludicrous moves being made, ludicrous penalties. An utter disaster in every sense of the word. I hope @vvise or someone who knows how to use YouTube uploads the replay of our race. FIA racing at its absolute worst. I shared it on my GTS profile.

But I had a smile on my face and loved every second of it.

Haha the race we were both in was absolute chaos - here's my post race replay review. You're in it a handful of times, but for all the wrong reasons lol

 

[Winnie847]

Haha the race we were both in was absolute chaos - here's my post race replay review. You're in it a handful of times, but for all the wrong reasons lol

Congrats on your win last night man, you had some killer pace. I think I can hear top split calling your name!

 

[breeminator]

Nah. I remember the Gr.4 Race at Tokyo. It was a Daily Race B. The British Bulldogs(Vantage and F-Type) were the cars of choice. I named it the AdVantage that week.

That's without tyre wear, though. I tried a custom race with the FIA settings with both the Lambo and the Jag, and was faster in the Lambo due to it having better tyre wear.

 

[Odiesback]

Not really a big fan and not sure I quite understand the logic behind having your last race result be the final count. In my view, this rule does not encourage more participation since we do not have any control over the type of competitors in a lobby, and therefore, by not knowing what you signed up for, how would you know that you would not lose points even if you won a race? This only makes more people stay away from trying to better their results since a critical variable of the point calculation is unknown to the player:

My point is that the randomness of the points available turns the decision of trying for another race into pure gambling: hoping that the throw of the dice will place you in a high value lobby. After that you’re on your own, but until the computer decides, crossing fingers is the best you can do.

In my opinion, best point result of the night should your score for the final tally, otherwise what’s the point?

I understand the rule as-is, I just don't agree with the intent and application of it.

 

[Trone_Colby]

In my opinion, best point result of the night should your score for the final tally, otherwise what’s the point?

This. Like last night in manufacturers. I didn’t do well the first go only scoring 38 points in the 21:00 slot due to people crashing into me. I decided to give it another go at the last slot. Not only did I get hit by a late braker, later I was pitted by some screwball after the hairpin. It sent me to the wall and I couldn’t recover. By that time, I was 20th with no chance in hell of catching anyone so I quit.

I get 0 points for the round since that’s was my last race.

 

[bloodyboyblue]

Not really a big fan and not sure I quite understand the logic behind having your last race result be the final count. In my view, this rule does not encourage more participation since we do not have any control over the type of competitors in a lobby, and therefore, by not knowing what you signed up for, how would you know that you would not lose points even if you won a race? This only makes more people stay away from trying to better their results since a critical variable of the point calculation is unknown to the player:

My point is that the randomness of the points available turns the decision of trying for another race into pure gambling: hoping that the throw of the dice will place you in a high value lobby. After that you’re on your own, but until the computer decides, crossing fingers is the best you can do.

In my opinion, best point result of the night should your score for the final tally, otherwise what’s the point?

I understand the rule as-is, I just don't agree with the intent and application of it.

That’s exactly the point. You’re supposed to be discouraged from trying again. You should have one shot to get your best result, the extra attempts are mainly meant for disconnections and if you’re caught in an incident beyond your control and finish at the back.

Having your best score of the night count just rewards people with too much time on their hands and hurts people who actually have a life outside of GT.

 

[HERE4BEER3]

Not really a big fan and not sure I quite understand the logic behind having your last race result be the final count. In my view, this rule does not encourage more participation since we do not have any control over the type of competitors in a lobby, and therefore, by not knowing what you signed up for, how would you know that you would not lose points even if you won a race? This only makes more people stay away from trying to better their results since a critical variable of the point calculation is unknown to the player:

My point is that the randomness of the points available turns the decision of trying for another race into pure gambling: hoping that the throw of the dice will place you in a high value lobby. After that you’re on your own, but until the computer decides, crossing fingers is the best you can do.

In my opinion, best point result of the night should your score for the final tally, otherwise what’s the point?

I understand the rule as-is, I just don't agree with the intent and application of it.

It's because not everyone can race all night, awarding people who have all night to do the 5 slots a MAJOR advantage. It would basically force all the top players with a chance to qualify for a live event to have to play all night for a chance, and it would still be the same crap shoot it is now since not everyone will play every slot, every day and points will still fluctuate unpredictably. I'd be okay if they went back to one shot, and I'd stop playing the game if they go back to that best result counts non-sense. It's just a terrible idea from a competitive perspective, no need to be consistent or clean when you can just go again and hope for better luck.

And this is coming from a guy that got screwed out of points last night because I decided to go again, got into a worse lobby and ended up with the same result for less points.

 

[watto79]

In my opinion, best point result of the night should your score for the final tally, otherwise what’s the point?

This used to be the system but they changed it after people complained that it massively favoured those who could spare the time to do all the races on a given evening. It also opened the door to someone scoring high in an early slot and then messing up other people's races in later slots, safe in the knowledge that their points were safe.

In my experience the points available doesn't vary all that much unless your DR varies wildly. That's your control on the points available. Make sure your SR is 99 and your DR is as high as possible. If you lose a load of DR in a race you can expect less points available in the next race.

My preferred system would be a one shot entry system, so long as disconnects are minimal and can be managed better. Again, the one shot system used to be what was used but disconnects were an issue.

A single entry is closer to real life and increases the tension around the event, that is something I prefer.