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Attempt number one in an A/S lobby at Nations was pretty much over before the end of the first lap. Absolutely destroyed by drivers trying to win on the first lap. You may not be able to win on the first lap, but you can certainly ruin someone else's race on lap one.

Finished 19/19. Would have been 20/20 if someone didn't quit. I felt pretty good at the start as well having qualified just outside the top 10.

Not sure if I'll even attempt it again. No one wants to race, they just want to drive fast.

Lost1,100 DR for my efforts, despite being car18 in the field.
 
Good night everyone, Matt Jones here, your correspondent from the CSA region's Top Split :cool:

Porsche 993 at Laguna Seca, what a great combo! Love 90's sports cars on real circuits, that's Gran Turismo in a nutshell. First slot had, as usual, a stacked grid with the top of the crop. Got a good tow from perro loco Mcqueen, and got myself a nice P5, only '002 away from Hellzifre.


Schwarz 911, keeping it simple. No need for liveries with this one.

Ok, back to racing. Stupidly jumped the gun at the start and fell to 9th, carnage on the first corner though, so i climbed back to 8th. From there on, some good battling with Nike, Kaiser and Bernal, which we had some contact, but the Pad Gods saved me from spinning, thank you DS4. Bernal binned it at the fast left-hander before the Corkscrew at some point, and i secured my 7th place till the end of the race.


On the front of the pack, some nice action on the last lap - Bonelli and Loyrot had some scuffle on the first corner, and Mcqueen, who had nothing to do with it, managed to slip by and got the win! Nice one dude :cheers:


240 points, might be enough to secure a top 60 on my region or top 10 in my country. I'm not worrying too much about points this Season, just want to get my Star Player License in preparation for the next one. Gonna go back at the last race only, Gr1 at Tokyo Expressway lol, what is PD thinking? Smells like blood. Thanks for watching :gtplanet::gtpflag:
 
Well that was no fun. Nobody has any patience, they start moving you out of the way. Small mistakes turn into 2-3 positions lost and all the sliding around wears the tires out you might as well be driving on ice at the end. Glad I just did this for "fun" tonight and it turned out to be anything but. :lol:

See everyone at Bathurst next weekend. ;)
 
I don't think I've ever had one person mess up my race so much. Both in qualifying and the actual race. For the first time in a long time, I finished dead last - except for the guy who killed my race and quit halfway through and some other rage quitter. Whelp, welcome back do DR.D...
 
Now that I've raced the Gr.4 Supra over multiple events, I hope PD make one available for Manufacturer Series. Really good car and it's killing me it can only be used in Nations Cup.
 
It’s a love/hate relationship between me and the Carrera, but today turned out alright. Knocked out one of my low scores with this one. P2 finish. Exciting at the beginning because of the grid start, then exciting at the end again when I almost caught the leader, but boring in the middle except for P3 breathing down my neck all race keeping me honest.

 
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Well, toady's race for me was yet another example of qualifying not meaning squat. On my first quali lap, I got pushed wide on turn 1 by another driver, so that immediately ruined it. (It seemed suspiciously deliberate, however, I decided to let it go.) On my second attempt, I spun out on the turn leading up to Rahal Straight, messing up that lap. As a result, I started in 16th.

A ton of shoving went on during lap 1 of the race, as expected, but I managed not to get wiped out and was in 12th by the start of lap 2. From there, I alternated between 11th and 12th up until lap 10, where I ran into a group of other cars, a couple with 0.5s penalties. I passed one of them that served the penalty and another that went off track on the corkscrew, putting me in 10th.

On the following lap, I encountered a driver who had the worst connection I've ever seen. I tried my best not to get distracted by their car that was literally all over the place, and thankfully I got pass without contact on the final turn, giving me 9th. On lap 12, I ran into a messy incident happening on the corkscrew, which began when one driver spun another car into my path, resulting me in hitting them. Next thing I knew, I was surrounded by other cars. I got pushed around, but I was able to keep my car on track and emerged in 8th.

On the penultimate lap, I took 7th after a car went wide on the turn before the Cooper Tires bridge and finally, I took 6th when another driver bottled the corkscrew. This race was a bit of a circus, especially towards the end, so I obviously decided not to push my luck and just take this result.

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And just for laughs, here's a clip of the driver with the horrendous connection:

 
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Going to qualy on RH, start on RH for one lap. Switch to RS for two stints and run RM for the last stint. Just see where I end up.

Edit; Qualified 11th on RH and they were wearing after 2 laps. :lol:

Edit 2: After yesterdays mayhem, this race was good. NO dramas. Set a 1:36.0 for FL. Love using all the tyre compounds. Did a 4 stop 7RH/3RS/2RS/3RM. Fingers were comfortable on the controller and the RC F was easy. Might go again.
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Going to qualy on RH, start on RH for one lap. Switch to RS for two stints and run RM for the last stint. Just see where I end up.

Edit; Qualified 11th on RH and they were wearing after 2 laps. :lol:

Edit 2: After yesterdays mayhem, this race was good. NO dramas. Set a 1:36.0 for FL. Love using all the tyre compounds. Did a 4 stop 7RH/3RS/2RS/3RM. Fingers were comfortable on the controller and the RC F was easy. Might go again.
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Why are you qualifying on Hards? Do you know that after qualifying has finished you can change the tyre compound you start the race on?
 
The player that finished 6th in my first race, in this second race, tried to smash me off track when I got side by side. He then smashed other people off and escorted them off track. I sent that dude to Gundungaland.

He DNF'd along with two other players. Good thing it's only exhibition.
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Qualified 3rd. 2nd place car made big mistake on second corner so ended up as just me and leader in an Aston pulling away from the pack. Turned out he was on mediums and me on softs so I pitted first. After our second stop we both did last stint on hards and he was 5 seconds ahead so his M/S/H seemed the better option. I did come out in a bit of traffic though and I did make up some time to finish just over 3 seconds behind so could have been a closer finish.
 
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Actually pretty happy with last nights nations cup
First slot had a issue did qually ended up 2nd without slip with a 39.4 a pb for me went in to the stupid fia intro and it froze so I had to restart the computer on plus side it gave me a extra hours practice.
2nd slot was the same time 39,4 but only managed a 5th on the grid but the race started well managed to position myself on the inside and got up to 3rd with a clean race and stayed there till the end .
Did the 3rd slot and just wow qually in 4th with a 39,7 but my god it was like takeshi's castle with all the dive bomb missiles being fired at every corner at one point I was hit so hard I ended up with engine damage and rear wheel damage for what felt like a eternity.
Ended up starting 4th ended 14th not great.
So moved on to the 4th slot and wow this has got to be the highlight of nations first me , qualifying was perfect a 39,1 with slip put me pole only for the car in my slip to go 0.09 faster but we was well clear of 3rd by 0.8 .
The race starts and both myself and 1st get perfect starts and are clear of the field by turn 2 and we didn’t bother to fight we just extended the gap to 14 seconds by lap 10 then the fun started both nose to tail swapping places at turn 1 the corkscrew and the last turn over the final laps without even as much as a brush of door handles and I finished 0.014 behind at the line for a very decent 185 points.
 
Hi all

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I only started with GTS in early December last year.

I have been reading the blurb about these two series and the idea seems to be that they are set up to determine the best drivers who represent their Nation or Manufacturer. So in essence, team olympics in each category.

That being the case, why are drivers in higher DR rated race getting so many points compared to lesser rated ones? Now I appreciate that there has to be some incentive for higher DR drivers to compete and that there should be some disparity in rewards. But 300 points? Why will the performance of a handful of drivers determine the best Nation or Manufacturer? To use the Olympics analogy, is the gold medal in the 100m worth more that the one in canoeing? Yes, it may be more glamorous to be 100m champion, but the medal table counts them equally.

I have raced every round so far. The winners have been earning 6 points, sometimes 9. This is hardly an incentive for lesser skilled drivers to compete, especially given you could be potentially putting your entire DR at risk if you have a poor result. Given the amount of lack of respect demonstrated by many at my level, the incentive to be involved seems minimal.

What happened to “team”? If the premise isn’t “team”, then maybe the competitions should be titled “World Champion”?

Is this what Sony wants? Surely any sound business model should be geared to encouraging new players? Surely more players generates higher income? Given the impending launch of PS5, pandering to the few as opposed to encouraging the many looks a little odd.

I already love this game. All the things you can do, not just the driving. But these two series just seem unfair and I won’t be racing the remaining rounds. I’m sure my non-participation will be devastating to many.

As I have stated, I am new. I do hope, however, that my observation have some merit.
 
Hi all

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I only started with GTS in early December last year.

I have been reading the blurb about these two series and the idea seems to be that they are set up to determine the best drivers who represent their Nation or Manufacturer. So in essence, team olympics in each category.

That being the case, why are drivers in higher DR rated race getting so many points compared to lesser rated ones? Now I appreciate that there has to be some incentive for higher DR drivers to compete and that there should be some disparity in rewards. But 300 points? Why will the performance of a handful of drivers determine the best Nation or Manufacturer? To use the Olympics analogy, is the gold medal in the 100m worth more that the one in canoeing? Yes, it may be more glamorous to be 100m champion, but the medal table counts them equally.

I have raced every round so far. The winners have been earning 6 points, sometimes 9. This is hardly an incentive for lesser skilled drivers to compete, especially given you could be potentially putting your entire DR at risk if you have a poor result. Given the amount of lack of respect demonstrated by many at my level, the incentive to be involved seems minimal.

What happened to “team”? If the premise isn’t “team”, then maybe the competitions should be titled “World Champion”?

Is this what Sony wants? Surely any sound business model should be geared to encouraging new players? Surely more players generates higher income? Given the impending launch of PS5, pandering to the few as opposed to encouraging the many looks a little odd.

I already love this game. All the things you can do, not just the driving. But these two series just seem unfair and I won’t be racing the remaining rounds. I’m sure my non-participation will be devastating to many.

As I have stated, I am new. I do hope, however, that my observation have some merit.

If you compare the lap times and total times of the races you're part of and the top ones that get over 300 points you will see that your races will be much slower. And that's why the point differences are so big.
Granted, getting 6 points for a win is ridiculous and should be changed. Back in the earlier days the top races could get 1000 points, allowing for more points in the lower ranked races, but nevertheless it would be a similar outcome.

If you're good enough you will eventually get your Driver Rating up and so will be the points for the races as your opponents will be stronger than before.



BTW, just did a test race of todays manufacturers race. Didn't check that all 3 tire compounds were necessary. Could get my 86 to a 1 stopper. Unfortunately that's not gonna happen in the real races
 
Hi all

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I only started with GTS in early December last year.

I have been reading the blurb about these two series and the idea seems to be that they are set up to determine the best drivers who represent their Nation or Manufacturer. So in essence, team olympics in each category.

That being the case, why are drivers in higher DR rated race getting so many points compared to lesser rated ones? Now I appreciate that there has to be some incentive for higher DR drivers to compete and that there should be some disparity in rewards. But 300 points? Why will the performance of a handful of drivers determine the best Nation or Manufacturer? To use the Olympics analogy, is the gold medal in the 100m worth more that the one in canoeing? Yes, it may be more glamorous to be 100m champion, but the medal table counts them equally.

I have raced every round so far. The winners have been earning 6 points, sometimes 9. This is hardly an incentive for lesser skilled drivers to compete, especially given you could be potentially putting your entire DR at risk if you have a poor result. Given the amount of lack of respect demonstrated by many at my level, the incentive to be involved seems minimal.

What happened to “team”? If the premise isn’t “team”, then maybe the competitions should be titled “World Champion”?

Is this what Sony wants? Surely any sound business model should be geared to encouraging new players? Surely more players generates higher income? Given the impending launch of PS5, pandering to the few as opposed to encouraging the many looks a little odd.

I already love this game. All the things you can do, not just the driving. But these two series just seem unfair and I won’t be racing the remaining rounds. I’m sure my non-participation will be devastating to many.

As I have stated, I am new. I do hope, however, that my observation have some merit.


Because it stops the average driver dropping his dr deliberately
If that was the case I could drop my dr down to your level and absolutely smash the lobby because I could be 5-10 seconds faster a lap and easily pick up 300 points and sit at the top of a table where I don’t deserve to be .
 
Because it stops the average driver dropping his dr deliberately.

How sad is that.

Thank you for the reply.

If you compare the lap times and total times of the races you're part of and the top ones that get over 300 points you will see that your races will be much slower. And that's why the point differences are so big.

Why should the speed of my race determine my reward? Is not the position you finish against the competitors selected for you more important?

Granted, getting 6 points for a win is ridiculous and should be changed. Back in the earlier days the top races could get 1000 points, allowing for more points in the lower ranked races, but nevertheless it would be a similar outcome.

I’m looking for more of a sense of involvement rather the purely more points.

If you're good enough you will eventually get your Driver Rating up and so will be the points for the races as your opponents will be stronger than before.

I am as “good” as I am. For various reasons I am never going to be the fastest nor the best. Yes, I have goals, but they are modest compared to many, but they are goals nevertheless.
 
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It is a competition. And you compete against everyone, not just against the drivers you race directly in a single race. So the time difference of a top level race compared to yours does matter and makes the difference of points a necessity.

It also ensures that only the fastest of the fast drivers make it to the Live Events.


Edit: Prime example of why the points are different based on the lobby difficulty. I did a practice race yesterday for a today’s Manu race where the lobby was set to DR A or above only. @OutlawQuadrnt and @Dodge Lamb were both in the room, I had a really good run but still finished 15+ seconds behind the two of them in 3rd, that’s how much of a difference there is between the top guys and a 45-50k driver, these guys are on another level, we have no business getting the same points that they do. We would just embarrass ourselves at a live event racing against these guys if the points were evened out and we were able to get there from racing in lower lobbies.
 
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the idea seems to be that they are set up to determine the best drivers
This is hardly an incentive for lesser skilled drivers to compete
The points are higher in the races with the better drivers precisely because they're looking for the best drivers to compete in the live events.

The Nations Cup selects the best drivers from each nation (there's a maximum number per nation, which differs in each region) from the best drivers in the region as determined by their scores, and they compete as individuals. The Manufacturer Series selects the best drivers in each region from each manufacturer, and they compete as a team.

There'd be little point giving the same score for each race regardless of driver rating, because that wouldn't help find the best drivers - you'd end up with incompetent makeweights, and no incentive for the actual best drivers to take part and invest time in it if some random at DR D got the nod over them because he'd beaten all the other DR Ds in five out of ten races.

If you want to be one of the best drivers, you need to have one of the best DR scores first, and then beat the other best drivers by racing against them. Lesser-skilled 100m runners aren't going to the Olympics if they beat a bunch of schoolkids in 17 seconds.

The 'team' aspect comes from the fact that if someone from your nation or your manufacturer does well in the season, or at a live event, you get bonus credits and mileage points to share in their success.
 
On a different topic, as RBR is a good track for me I just practiced a bit to make sure I am still at the level I knew and then focused on practicing Nurburgring 24h for the next Nations Cup race. Still haven't decided on a car, but my question is - what is a decent laptime for higher B splits(20-30k DR)?

I never raced it until now in the daily races, and have no idea if I am competitive at this level or not. Till now my best is 8:28 in the AMG and getting 8:30-8:35 quite easily when I am not making stupid mistakes. Based on my pace, I think I can slice around 5s more if everything is clicking at the same time.
 
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