FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[pennanton]

Really enjoying this combo. Tyre multipliers make for some interesting situations regarding pace/strat. It's the sort of setup I'd have though would be perfect for Autopolis. Would love it if similar races were run for Daily C.

 

[05XR8]

Really enjoying this combo. Tyre multipliers make for some interesting situations regarding pace/strat. It's the sort of setup I'd have though would be perfect for Autopolis. Would love it if similar races were run for Daily C.

Yeah, good moving up the grid for you. The racing was good. I did get a couple bumps here and there. My car was good, but I was lost on what to do.

 

[Ashthebash]

Fuel Consumption & Tyre Wear Rate for Qualifying & Final
・It will be possible to set ‘Fuel Consumption’ and ‘Tyre Wear’ rates separately in the Qualifying Time Trials and Finals of the FIA Gran Turismo Championships.

It's not clear exactly what this means, but hoping it means you can set your fuel for qualifying. It sounds like it might also mean you can have tyre wear and fuel consumption for the time trial, which would give that mode an actual purpose 👍

Bit late to the party with this...

I think what they'll do is increase the multiplier(s) for qualifying rather than let you set your own fuel level, basically set them so the car is only good for two laps. Make it something stupid like x20, no need to fuel burn then. If they do the same for tyres it would make it interesting, it would definitely be a one shot deal and your warm up lap would be a genuine warm up lap getting everything up to temperature without taking any life out of the tyres and making sure you've got the fuel to get around

Edit:

It could also make people think twice about getting in a slipstream train. Imagine starting a lap 1s behind someone at Fuji for that extra couple of tenths down the straight and their tyres are shredded by the time you get into the final sector

 

[pennanton]

Yeah, good moving up the grid for you. The racing was good. I did get a couple bumps here and there. My car was good, but I was lost on what to do.

If I remember I accidentally spinned someone going through the last couple of corners, you can get on the gas with a lot more confidence in the 911 than the Supra he was in and I should have known that, I ended up nudging him into a spin. I got out of it and went to the back with him to give the spot back then carried on. I was fortunate the fighting up ahead allowed me to catch.

Yeah you threw me off with that! I saw you were a few cars ahead at one stage, then a few laps later a few behind. I was thinking 'I didn't see you bin it?'. Was worried you'd catch of fresher rubber though. I found after a couple of attempts its just 5/5/5 on the softs. Worn softs on the worst tyre eating cars is still better than going long on the mediums.

I'm done for the night, while I had a lot of fun with this I can't help but think there was a lot left on the table. Qual is a lottery due to the slipstream, I got 4th with a low 34 without draft in the 911 only to find 3rd and 2nd ahead were slower on race pace. Obviously heavily subsidised by the slipstream. Coupled with slower drivers coming out on alternate strats dicing with me purely because of the new rubber rather than actual pace. It meant I had good results but if the stars aligned a little better I could have gotten what I think my pace was capable of.

 

[The_Tullster]

Haven't we had one of the muscle/pony cars with a 5-speed? Unless that was one of the World Tour races eons ago.

I think it was a daily, not an FIA.

Fuji, poor performance. Bad choice of car for the season I think, I've not done particularly well for any of the Gr.3 races in the Ford GT. Come the 25th I'm resigning with Ford but choosing the Mustang rather than the GT.
Did P11 > P16 on a two stop with mediums on the middle stint, 5 laps each. If I did it again it'd be 5RS/5RS/5RS. The mediums last longer than the softs but are slow to start with and lose pace so quickly they're not worth the extra distance.

 

[chuyler1]

Can we get a moment of laughter for this rookie that tried to wreck the leaders from a lap down and didn’t realize he was ghosted?



I did some daily races the previous day and it destroyed my rating. I worked back up to B/B but was in a lobby with some E/C drivers. The good news is that I took the pole and enjoyed an entire race of clean lapping. I was dripping in sweat by the end. This combo was all about finesse and although i’m good at that, it requires a ton of concentration. Note how my patience pays off while the aggressive drivers only make things worse for themselves. Sometimes you just gotta lift early so you can race another lap.



Unfortunately the quality of opponents was so bad in that lobby I only got 60 points. My next lobby I qualified on the pole again, this time against all B/S drivers. I led the race until lap 10 when the 2nd place driver finally managed to get two clean straights in a row to draft pass me. I stayed on his bumper for the remainder of the race but for some reason couldn’t get the benefit of the draft enough to pull along side. I’m new to this class, are there different balances of weight/power you can apply to meet class limits?

 

[The_Tullster]

I’m new to this class, are there different balances of weight/power you can apply to meet class limits?

Nope. Once you meet the class requirement your car is then subjected to BoP just like any other multi car race. Doesn't matter what weight/power combo you choose, it'll be adjusted by the game when you enter the race to match BoP requirements.

 

[Groundfish]

Wrong thread my bad

 

[The359]

Here’s a fun clip from my warmup race after crashing on both qualy laps and starting P20.

Everyone has clips of my mistakes/bad races

 

[Danny_GT2]

Just did a practice lobby for Fuji. I was very surprised at how quick the medium tyres wore off. Did my second stint in mediums and only drove an extra lap than my first stint on softs. I'll probably play it safe though in the proper race and pit for mediums for my first stop and then switch to softs for the end, but it's also quite tempting to do three soft stints too.

 

[MCL1974]

Can we get a moment of laughter for this rookie that tried to wreck the leaders from a lap down and didn’t realize he was ghosted?



Suddenly thinking off Ocon versus Verstappen at Interlagos!!!

 

[Pigems]

Just did a practice lobby for Fuji. I was very surprised at how quick the medium tyres wore off. Did my second stint in mediums and only drove an extra lap than my first stint on softs. I'll probably play it safe though in the proper race and pit for mediums for my first stop and then switch to softs for the end, but it's also quite tempting to do three soft stints too.

Mediums don’t last any longer than softs for some stupid reason in this game, so if softs are available and mediums aren’t mandatory, don’t use them. 👍

 

[ivann]

full speed forward with no sound



attempt 2

 

[chuyler1]

Mediums don’t last any longer than softs for some stupid reason in this game, so if softs are available and mediums aren’t mandatory, don’t use them. 👍

I'm only getting back into the game this past month but I was surprised to discover the same. It's more about managing lap times on each tire and knowing at which point a worn out soft tire is slower than a less worn hard tire, and timing your pit stop to maybe make a pass or break away from someone slower that has been drafting you. You can also play with strategy on what tire to start with based on your position on the grid.

Since it may not be obvious to everyone, and perhaps you haven't watched any of the fast driver's YouTube channels, here's a scenario...

Let's say there are 12 laps and regardless of tire compound and you discover you lose 0.5 seconds per lap as the tires wear, except you are 1.0 second faster on the softer compound at the start of the stint. After 6 laps on softs you would be down 3 seconds, after 6 laps on mediums you would be down 4 seconds from your fastest soft tire lap. If you held out for one more lap on the softs, a 3.5 second slower lap, you'd be trading it in place of the last lap on mediums when you were 4 seconds down, so you effectively gain a 1/2 second over a 50/50 split on compounds. If you pushed it to 8 laps on softs, given this scenario, it wouldn't make a difference, so your pit window (not accounting for fuel consumption) is lap 7 or 8.

Of course that is based on "optimal" laps and when you're racing wheel to wheel and other drivers have different compounds than you, you may need to adjust your strategy on the fly. I have had races where the carnage in front of me was so bad I pitted early and switched over, by the end of the race I was in a podium position fighting for my life on bald tires, but at least I got to put down some good laps and move up positions without having to battle for them.

 

[Winnie847]

Everyone has clips of my mistakes/bad races

haha, don’t worry man that was my bad race too. In fact it seemed like the entire back of the grid could have done much better in qualy and in race. This one was a throwaway for me, it was just a fun fight. Lots of fast guys in that one.

 

[Danny_GT2]

Just finished the Fuji race. Started 3rd in the GTR which is definitely suited to Fuji. Finished 3rd, narrowly missing out on 2nd after a very close battle with a Porsche 911. Porsche definitely had the edge in the third sector around the twisty sections but the GTR breezes past it on the straight. Race winner managed to pull off a one stop strategy, possibly aided by my battle for 2nd.

 

[YRS2703]

First split done, slammed the Jag into 2nd in quali, could've got first but I caught the Beetle in front too quickly (he did his flyer before mine) and he braked too early into Dunlop... apologized to him after
Race time, started on softs, no T1 heroics, got passed by the Merc behind me into T3. Kept battling with the Supra and Merc for the lead for a good few laps. GTR behind us caught up, and as per some GTR drivers decided that the best way through a corner was through it. Rammed me and the Merc off after Dunlop, I came off worst and became P4. No major time losses. Decided to hold back and watch the GTR driver make a mistake, which inevitably happened. Pitted on L4 for Mediums, tried to undercut the guys in front. Stint was going well with me, the Toyota, and the AMG remaining in close proximity until I was overzealous at Dunlop and earned myself a .5 penalty on Lap 9. Biggest mistake was to pit then for Softs, was way too slow on the final couple of laps, still managed to snag P3 behind the Merc and the Supra (who decided to bravely do a 1 stop. I caught up 2 seconds on L15)
119 points, really wondering if I should risk it and go again

 

[watto79]

Did they turn up the penalties again? Qualified 12th, which admittedly isn't great, took it easy into turn 1 and see on the radar 2 cars flying up the inside so leave space. Get the LIGHTEST of touches from one of them and I get given a 1 second penalty Another penalty later in the lap leaves me stone cold last. Manage to recover back up to 12th but that was awful. Also finished with a white SR!? That never happens!! @wombleleader had a lot more success in that race. I need to take a breather to decide if I give that one another crack.

 

[Benay79]

That race was brutal! Don’t know why but everyone was just on a mission to ruin each other’s race! Haven’t seen dirty driving like that for a long time. Even in qualifying, on my flying lap someone had spun off and when they saw me coming, purposely turned onto the racing line to block me at the last second. Had to start 12th.

The race was just chaos. People divebombing T1, diving every corner, people pushing others off. On the straight, looked in my mirror to watch a car behind me crush someone else onto the pit wall. Finally got some clean track to keep away from trouble. No way am I doing another tonight!!

 

[Danny_GT2]

Did they turn up the penalties again? Qualified 12th, which admittedly isn't great, took it easy into turn 1 and see on the radar 2 cars flying up the inside so leave space. Get the LIGHTEST of touches from one of them and I get given a 1 second penalty Another penalty later in the lap leaves me stone cold last. Manage to recover back up to 12th but that was awful. Also finished with a white SR!? That never happens!! @wombleleader had a lot more success in that race. I need to take a breather to decide if I give that one another crack.

Interesting. I had a couple of similar rubs in my race but no penalties. Very surprised at how clean my race was, given it was a DR B lobby. Nobody attempted to divebomb into T1 which is very rare as Fuji T1 is pretty much tailor made for divebombs.

 

[YRS2703]

Interesting. I had a couple of similar rubs in my race but no penalties. Very surprised at how clean my race was, given it was a DR B lobby. Nobody attempted to divebomb into T1 which is very rare as Fuji T1 is pretty much tailor made for divebombs.

Were you in my race by any chance? That was how it was on mine too. B/S lobby, aside from that GTR driver everybody raced very cleanly

 

[Tidgney]

Lets hope the Audi Tyres can survive !

 

[Danny_GT2]

Were you in my race by any chance? That was how it was on mine too. B/S lobby, aside from that GTR driver everybody raced very cleanly

Nope. The second place starter in my race was an AMG.

 

[das89ca]

Manu Cup - Fuji

I am not interested in Manufacturers Cup results this season, so I entered the race just to have fun and raise my DR if possible.

1st slot - decent quali, started in P7. Started on Softs and went for a two stopper. From the first 3 laps I realized that I have by far the best pace of the race, when I melted 5s gap to the leader. Pitted first time end of lap 5, entered 4th and got out in 6th. 2nd stint was successful, end of lap 10 I was in 3rd, just 1.2s behind the leader. I forced an overtake right before the pit entry and entered the pits in 2nd. My surprise was that I got first, do not know why and last 5 laps I was leader keeping a decent pace till the end. Victory and up to 20.5 K DR.

As I felt I was doing good I wanted to keep racing.

2nd slot - qualified 7th again, but lost one position in T1 after being pushed wide. This time I was blocked behind 4-5 drivers that starting battling in lap1 of the race and they were occupying the whole track. Did not have any space to overtake so decided to put end of lap 3 and try an undercut. 2 stints of 6laps should be possible. The move almost was succesfull, got 2 laps of clean air and lost 2 cars when they pitted in lap4. However beginning of lap6 I was in 6th and was approaching T1 when 2 drivers got out of the pits. I was in the braking zone, took a wider line so I can cut back after - as the cars getting out were on the inside line - but I was completely T-boned by one of them when he missed the braking point. I was unlucky enough to stop with the rear wheels on the curb so trying to start in 1st gear caused another spin. Dead last in lap 6, worked my way up to 16th till the end.

3rd slot - disaster in qualification just P19 after miscalculated the distance from the driver behind and I was caught up in T1 and divebombed.
Wanted to try a 1stopper, started on mediums and aiming for a 9M-6S with clean air when people will start to pit. It was working, I cut through the field and got up to 6th place after people pitted. Then in lap6 disaster - got sideswiped by an AMG when side-by-side then a few turns later after lost 3 positions got messed up by pinball physics - as I was hit by a car that was pushed by another driver. Again dead last - and with two spins my tyres were wwere done. End of lap 7 - I had enough and parked in the pits.

What a crappy night...

 

[pantherjag]

@watto79

Yeah I had a decent result. Bucked the trend and 1 stopped my way from 5th on grid to 2nd in the race. Surprised was only one to try it tbh.

Just watched replay from your perspective. Pen on turn one was a joke. Was p14 and 15 having an out breaking competition that caused it. Penalty into turn 4 was harsh but I can at least understand that one. I do believe that once you one contact penalty you are far more prone to get other ones for minor contacts.

Good recovery once you dropped the crazy macca f1 and gtr with sensible patient driving. Hope you went again as you easily have the pace.

 

[watto79]

@watto79

Yeah I had a decent result. Bucked the trend and 1 stopped my way from 5th on grid to 2nd in the race. Surprised was only one to try it tbh.

Just watched replay from your perspective. Pen on turn one was a joke. Was p14 and 15 having an out breaking competition that caused it. Penalty into turn 4 was harsh but I can at least understand that one. I do believe that once you one contact penalty you are far more prone to get other ones for minor contacts.

Good recovery once you dropped the crazy macca f1 and gtr with sensible patient driving. Hope you went again as you easily have the pace.

Ha, couldn't remember your GTP name off the top of my head! Yeah the turn 1 penalty really threw me off my game for the rest of the lap. I can't argue with the second penalty. The contact didn't cause any harm but was still my own doing. Regrouped after that and ran a solid race.

I've not gone again yet but will give the last slot a go. Can't believe you 1 stopped it. Really didn't think that strategy was on so very nicely done. You really need to look after your tyres for that.

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

Yay go Nissan! Second top 3 finish in a row. must be because I moaned about picking Nissan last week!

Started 6th and managed to get through T1 without any problems. Front 6 cars pulled out a little gap and the 6 of us had a great race swapping positions many times. Got into 2nd with a lap to go and stayed there.

 

[UjiOgami15]

A surprising Q5 (last week at fuji gr 2 was a good training) and then an uninspiring P8 after being 3rd in the first stint. Still my best result of the manu season for 94 points.
my strategy didn t pay off 4S 7M 4S,so slow with the mediums, but a fifth lap on soft would have killed me as well, I have to work on my Tyre management

 

[Lost Sheltie]

Wasn't going to bother with this today as wasn't really up for it, but felt ok so decided to have a shot.

Quali didn't go to plan when the guy ahead of me went flying off to the left at the 1st corner, distracting me enough that i missed my braking point and I had to let the guy behind me go through. Ended up qualifying 16th.

So began the fightback. Nothing much exciting happened until the end of lap 2 when people started getting the elbows out, and then I managed to pull off a nice move at the end of lap 3 to pick up 3 places. A guy pitted at the end of lap 4, and came out just ahead of me and since I could just about hold onto his slipstream I decided to stay out an extra lap and then always have slightly better tyres than the people around me.

I came out in 12th a few secs back from a small pack, but I was able to catch up and work my way past a couple. I caught up with a group ahead but couldn't get past until they pitted, but since I had an extra lap to go I mixed in with the leaders and managed to stay with them on my extra lap.

Came out in 9th and managed to pick up a couple of places when people ahead were struggling with tyres. I then closed up on 6th, and started putting on the pressure but they were holding reasonably firm. Ended up trying a very ambitious move around the outside of the last corner, and nearly made it but there was a small nudge and I was off the track. Didn't do much damage to me, but he waited like a champ and let me take 6th.

Great fun race and thanks to everyone I raced

 

[Veinz]

I was going to try and run only the soft tire but I just cannot see that going well with me in the Supra.