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Did anyone get disconnected from the 19:40 BST/20:40 CET EMEA race last night? I was running 6th and was in the midst of a second stop for softs on lap 15 and got DC'd, decided that the Tiger King finale was a better use of my time than another game of midfield pinball.
 
Just look at it as a learning experience instead of an attempt at a good score. You can never have to much experience and can always learn something from the race. :)
I look at every race as a learning experience atm. My only real aim atm is to try to finish a race in a higher position than I started. :p
I just think that me trying to drive higher powered cars might take more concentration than I could provide atm, and I would just end up getting frustrated :(
 
Yep it certainly was.

For those who have not watched my stream, @Rangeraus pointed out before the race that not changing compounds was faster. I decided that I could run a no stop on softs, saving fuel and looking after the tires. There is only 1 20 second penalty for not using the different compounds. I ran an average of 1:28flat (creeping to 1:29's in the later stages) to bring the car home from 6th on the grid to 2nd. The winner was @schnick in the renault who did the same as me. 3rd and 4th also didn't change compounds but ran a flat out race 1 stop back onto softs and lost to me by about 3 seconds.

It is 100% morally wrong. Per the rules of the game it is legit. I hope it gets patched out very quickly. I'm not usually one to 'cheat' my way through a race, yet I found it fascinating that someone came up with that creative idea, the loophole in the rules as it is that I had to give it a go. I believe 7 or 8 out of the top 10 copped a 20 second penalty at the end of my race.
Yeah it does feel dirty and there's a simple fix, 20 sec per mandatory compound you didn't use.

Personally it's not about the herd mentality of everyone "cheating" I would've done it if it was the official season because it's PD's fault they didn't close the loophole, just like people were using the mixed tyres loophole previously
 
For the hell of it, I drove the 787b in last night's Redbull Ring race. I knew I wasn't going to be competitive and I just wanted to hear the sound of the 26B for a little bit. I was curious how bad not picking the ideal car would be. Really bad. The lobby gave me the #1 plate (which I'm told means you *should* be one of the quickest in the room). Qualified 18th, finished 18th but I'm pretty sure one guy went AFK (or is it AFW). I could run 1:18-1:21, ended up using all 3 tire compounds because the car was so slow on hards. Ended up getting lapped by the top 3 without making any major mistakes or getting caught in any lap 1 carnage. Didn't need to add any fuel though...so I had that going for me ;)
 
I took part in all 5 sessions with 5 different cars. I wish they would force you to use a different car every time you enter. That would give the grids a lot more variety.
 
I don’t think 7-8 laps on softs wouldnt be awful. I was at 1/3ish wear in the Genesis after 8 laps. Maybe a little more on the right front.
Yet some cars don't even need to pit. Compared to a Megane V6 Trophy I'll need to do an extra stop and still take the 20s tyre cheat penalty, while also losing out on raw lap pace.
 
Why do people not allow D grade DR drivers into their lobby.?
I mean I know that they just don't want to race against sloppy drivers, but wouldn't this help them improve which might benefit all drivers in the actual race?
I don't understand.

When I set up a minimum requirement it's generally because I want to gauge my pace against others around my level. It's not a case of not wanting lower ranked drivers in, just a case of encouraging the quicker ones
How realistic is such a difference in tyre performance though? Do racing teams in real life do this too? I'm not keeping myself busy with motorracing in real life and don't know a lot about this.
Pretty realistic in my opinion, but since they shortened the pit stops in GT Sport the quicker tyre is usually 'required' in the race to be competitive. They make the harder tyres the actual requirements to make you sometimes think about when you're going for your fast stint. The requirements for yesterday's race actually worked really well and over the 20 laps you had people pitting at all different times and plenty on different tyres. Makes for good racing.

In saying that, I think they could go back to how pit stops were for plenty of the longer FIA races. If a pit stop cost 18s instead of 7s yesterday then there would have been a dilemma whether to put the softs on, as it is, most tracks you will pull back the time it takes to pit simply because it's only a few seconds, yesterday was easy to

Wondering if the next Nations RB Jr race will have the same exploit. I doubt it since that race is a lot longer potentially making no stop too slow, but we'll see ;)

Reading about the Laguna Seca exploit has me thinking, I doubt it because the pit stop doesn't cost a great deal, but the softs are SO much faster than the others. I don't think a no stop is possible being x17 tyre wear but a one stop S-S might be competitive and it'll make me test it out rather than consider the possibility of FOUR stops!! (I seem to chew through the softs and the car doesn't like me after seven laps!)
 
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so now, overly enthusiastic I go, with secret strategy to surprise everyone, to battle trophies

 
They were in the Toyota. TheKie also did it in the Megane; started at the back, no qualy just to try it out. Finished 2nd and dropped to 4th with penalty.
 
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Only about 5 or 6 in my lobby broke the rules and top 6 were all "legit". If you get held up in traffic (as I did) and make a few small mistakes (I also did) it makes it a bit harder. My early laps were a good second a lap off the pace compared to what I could do in practice lobbies.

Seems that someone starting at the front using all the tyres will still beat someone starting a bit further back who cheats.

Got 198 points for 7th so need to decide if I risk that or not.
 
Nations, Red Bull Ring

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P14 to P13 to P19 (dead last) by the the first turn. Spun out so badly it took me an age to get going again.🤬 P11 on the last lap until I was spun out again! Finished P12 (promoted to P10) for 38pts. The idiot at Turn 1 just responded with a childish "No worries!"

Disconected at matchmaking for Slot 3:banghead:

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Started P12. Finished P8 for 47pts.

This guy had been pretty physical if not actually very dirty during the race, so I couldn't help but laugh!:
 
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A little ashamed to admit I went for the ‘cheat’ tactic but I’m not even sure it is a cheat unless you drive brilliantly. :lol:

I qualified 7th and finished 7th (I crossed the line in 3rd) so didn’t make any gains. I did make a few little mistakes so that didn’t help. Spent most the race on my own in clear track so hard to tell. If your car is good on tires and fuel then it’s worth a try!
 
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A little ashamed to admit I went for the ‘cheat’ tactic but I’m not even sure it is a cheat unless you drive brilliantly. :lol:

I qualified 7th and finished 7th (I crossed the line in 3rd) so didn’t make any gains. I did make a few little mistakes so that didn’t help. Spent most the race on my own in clear track so hard to tell. If your car is good on tires and fuel then it’s worth a try!

Not really a cheat is it? You served the penalty. You followed the 'rules' of the race.

This is all on PD for creating this loophole, and also extending the time spent in the pits.
 
Not really a cheat is it? You served the penalty. You followed the 'rules' of the race.

This is all on PD for creating this loophole, and also extending the time spent in the pits.

Yup, it takes 18 seconds from the time Auto Drive takes over, until the time your car gets to the pit box. I just did a practice race where the Megane ahead of me was 8S ahead on his last stop and did the race properly. I finished 23s ahead of him in the end using 8S/7S. So stupid PD.
 
Nations, Red Bull Ring

EMEA

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P14 to P13 to P19 (dead last) by the the first turn. Spun out so badly it took me an age to get going again.🤬 P11 on the last lap until I was spun out again! Finished P12 (promoted to P10) for 38pts. The idiot at Turn 1 just responded with a childish "No worries!"

Disconected at matchmaking for Slot 3:banghead:

Screen froze before fanfare began for Slot 4!🤬

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Started P12. Finished P8 for 47pts.

This guy had been pretty physical if not actually very dirty during the race, so I couldn't help but laugh!:

That last video is hilarious. I've never seen the game just go "screw it, I'm not gonna even bother fixing this" and dump someone back on the track after they screw up the pit entrance.

Also, to add to the debate about the "ethics" of just taking the tire penalty at Laguna Seca, I don't really see it as cheating or underhanded. We've known that the pit stop sequence at this track is probably the longest in the game since they first added this track, and many of us know that there's only one 20s penalty applied for not using all the required tires, regardless of how many compounds you don't use. This is an exploit that we all have access to and can choose to use if we wish, not some "game hack" that only a few people would unfairly have access to.
 
I plan to have a go (or several...) in my Corvette. Unless you're in the very top splits the better-handling cars don't dominate as much as the leaderboards suggest.
No fuel saving, just a flat out sprint on the softs?
 
No fuel saving, just a flat out sprint on the softs?
That's the plan, depending on how well I qualify. I'm not good enough at saving tires, and in the Corvette against better-handling cars, tire-saving is probably a fools errand. I plan to 1-stop and use softs the whole way. It should still be quicker than doing it the "proper" way and using all compounds.
 
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I imagine at levels below DR B it's well worth going for the no-stop run if you can save fuel and tyres, because so many people will go flat out, shred their rubber and waste their fuel, pit for more of both and still get the 20s penalty because they didn't read the tyre regs.
 
I imagine at levels below DR B it's well worth going for the no-stop run if you can save fuel and tyres, because so many people will go flat out, shred their rubber and waste their fuel, pit for more of both and still get the 20s penalty because they didn't read the tyre regs.

DR B will definitely do it. I’m doing it because of that fact. What can you do?
 
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