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[Hasnain282]

Streaming my run at Red Bull Ring, should be a pretty close race

 

[Roman_GT23]

Holy frijoles! I will be lucky if I survive the Bull Ring... And I'm a Taurus!

The Mustang(well there's my problem, should be using a Lambo)... the Mustang is so slow to turn. I'm surprised. It's been good in tight turns.

Maybe the tyres have changed. Think I'm going to get smoked in this one.
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Firstly, no stop. No managing anything other than car awareness and try not to get a penalty.

Second: Don't give up! Mustang was supremely stable. I guess the slowness kept me in check. 2nd gear pulls helped me the most.

I should not have won that. Got 2nd on Lap 2 after the Beetle got a penalty.
Was able to stay ahead of the NSX for a few laps. Caught the GT-R after setting some fastest laps.
I went wide into T1 on Lap 5. Fell to 4th. Went too deep up the inside, into T3. Fell to 6th.

GT-R gets punted by the Beetle. NSX assumes the lead.
That Lambo stayed behind me as we moved back up to 2nd & 3rd. The NSX had gotten away with a 2.5 second lead. It was starting to slide just past mid-distance.
Seemed like the Lambo dropped back, to stay out of the dirty air. Caught the NSX and it goes off at the final turn, Lap 11.

Ran flawlessly to the end. Only two defensive moves. Both on the last turns. Final turn, the Lambo clips the inside kerb and spears off!

Thanked all the players for patience with me. I could have been punted a few times there. 👍

F! I picked the Ford GT instead of the Mustang figuring while the Gr4 is a very stable platform and does corner exits very well the Gr3 would just be a giant iron so I went with the GT.............. guess we'll see how I pan out tonight

 

[TPMLEGACY]

I just bailed out of the first race, got on to lap 3. That was enough for me.

Lap 1 first corner I get torpedoed, 1 sec penalty, Turn 2 get torpedoed again, 2 second penalty.
Lap 2 first corner I get torpedoed 3 second penalty!
Lap 3 second corner, torpedoed again. 1 second penalty.

The whole “race” up to then was just people banging into each other down the straights, and bombing in corners, I try to stay away, but when it’s like this, it’s near impossible.
This was a B/S lobby, though it doesn’t surprise me, every time I’ve managed to get up to B the driving always seems a lot worse. Suzuka was just as bad.

Hopefully slot 2 will be much better.

 

[stpatty]

6th to 4th at Austria in the GT-R. I think lap 3 or so I passed the Nissan in front of me and he put me off at the next corner. Fought my way back up from 10th, though I did spin a Porsche round at the top of the hill after I just made the apex on a late dive and couldn't do anything after the first light tap. 133 points, and I really want to go again.

 

[Ashthebash]

Streaming my run at Red Bull Ring, should be a pretty close race

Looked a bundle of fun in that train! I hate having to follow cars closely, always feel like I'm being held up but clearly going to need to do it for qualy. Did have the idea of doing a hot lap in qualy as a banker, then finding a tow for another hot lap if I have time but I think I'll just try and find a Nissan. I hope there's more of them in my race than there was in yours!

Solid drive though mate 👍

 

[chuyler1]

So is this a no-pit race? Any fuel strategy? Couldn’t tell from your stream.

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

Argh...pleased with 6th but should have been much higher! Bottled it

M6 Not the fastest but stable. Qualified 9th and had fought my way all the way up to 4th by lap 3 and then was in 2nd by lap 7. Was keeping a steady 0.6 second lead over 3rd all the way until lap 13 where I picked up two track limit penalties on 2 corners in a row giving myself a 1 second penalty to take on lap 14. Fell all the way back to 7th. Got one place back on the final corner. Kicking myself!!!

 

[MIE1992]

For the Gr.2 race at Catalunya, what do you suppose the ideal tire/fuel strategy would be?

 

[VulcanSpirit]

F! I picked the Ford GT instead of the Mustang figuring while the Gr4 is a very stable platform and does corner exits very well the Gr3 would just be a giant iron so I went with the GT.............. guess we'll see how I pan out tonight

Having just come out of the 15:00 in the GT, I can say with confidence that it has the potential to be very competitive.

So is this a no-pit race? Any fuel strategy? Couldn’t tell from your stream.

Yes, no-pit race. Just be sure to use the fuel maps and short-shifting wherever you can.

 

[Famine]

Started 8th (could have been 6th but for a tiny track limits slip exiting the final turn), punted to 12th by a Porsche who didn't plan on braking for turns three or four, worked back up to 7th and just 4.5s off the lead. Then lots of morons took each other out to leave me 4th for the last three laps... during which time I spent plotting this last-lap overtake for third:



32-60s is the money shot

Quite pleased with it, actually Good fair driving from the Finnish Nissan too, even though he'd also been battered about.

 

[Hasnain282]

Looked a bundle of fun in that train! I hate having to follow cars closely, always feel like I'm being held up but clearly going to need to do it for qualy. Did have the idea of doing a hot lap in qualy as a banker, then finding a tow for another hot lap if I have time but I think I'll just try and find a Nissan. I hope there's more of them in my race than there was in yours!

Solid drive though mate 👍

Thanks.
Yeah was good fun, the race just flew by and looked like it was a pretty clean race all around, saw a couple of interesting penalties on the replay though.
And yeah if you care about finishing position a slipstream will most likely be needed

 

[MCL1974]

Was door no 19 in my slot but had an awesome qualifying,; 5th place and was a 10th faster then my best time in practice.
first halve of the race i was struggling with the Renault and i dropped to 10th. then my laps improved and ended 8th. not unhappy with the result.

 

[Kermit_2142]

Not sure how I feel about doing manu tonight after all these posts . Red bull is my bogey track as I seem to always pick up penalties and the Ferrari does not like the curbs at all. However practice has gone well so far so we will have to wait and see, fingers crossed for a clean lobby .

 

[stpatty]

Second try, started 4th and finished 3rd despite the Subaru behind me punting me off at turns 1 and 3

Spent almost all the race following a McLaren F1 in 3rd. Laps 12-14 were bad for me but I ended up putting in my best lap of the race (and only sub-31 lap, annoyingly) on lap 15. Forced him as narrow as I could at the second last corner, there was a bit of contact as I tried to go up his inside so I let off. Then he ruined himself on the last corner, easy podium.

Bit annoyed by my race pace there to be honest, I was around half a second a lap quicker on my own in practice. Oh well. Pretty sure 141 points is or is close to a record for me in the new FIA point system, so I'll stick with that.

 

[Adam Barber]

First attempt a DNF with the lambo, the car just is plain horrible on the hard compound of tyres, that paired with some less that great driving on both qualifying and the race left me frustrated.

Second attempt went better with an ok but scruffy qualifying lap putting me mid pack in 12th. First couple of laps made advance of some over eager fighting and worked my way into 7th trying to put in consistent smooth laps trying not to upset the car and coming down on the side of caution. Laps were steadily improving throughout the race until a ridiculous penalty for being brushed against while being tried to be overtaken gave me 3 seconds worth of penalties. After serving them was in 10th with no slipstream where eventually finished. No issues on fuel either just not over revving the car and I was all good for fuel.

The Gr3 lambo is definitely not as competitive on the hard compound of tyre as it is on the mediums and softs. I feel like I can really push a lot more without fear of any oversteer on them. Saturday then should hopefully be a lot better.

 

[RJBMonkey]

Was really looking forward to this as the Mustang felt good in practice.

Qualified 4th and feeling confident of a good finish. T1, got smashed off by someone in a Lambo who came flying without stopping from a long way back. To add to that, I was gifted with a 1 second penalty too for his troubles. Was 15th by the end of lap 1. Basically couldn’t do much from there and only made up positions thanks to others spinning off or picking up penalties. Disappointed.

In the lobby the Lambo driver apologised saying his foot slipped off the brake

 

[DK]

Qualified 15th thanks to getting blocked by a scrub in a Porsche at the entry to Rindt. That guy ended up a further second back and started in 18th just ahead of a couple of poor souls who ran afoul of the track limits.

At the start I ended up in a scrap after I followed a late-braking Ferrari into the run-off at Lauda, and then picked up a track limits penalty at the end of the lap at Red Bull Mobile corner. To cap it off, I got PIT'd into the infield at Remus just before I had to serve my penalty, and then to cap things off I plowed off into the gravel at Gössel on lap 4 before deciding wrangling the Supra around Spa was a better use of my time.

 

[GT5Apex]

My first race in the BMW Z4 went ok. Started 15th and i finished 11th.

Once again i got blocked in quali!!!! it's really starting to annoy me now.

In the race, the same guy who blocked me in quali, bumped into me twice, one of the bumps actually helped me gain a position haha. Later on in the race i got given a 1 second penalty because a porsche and a audi were playing bumper cars with each other and that caused the audi to spin out right in front of me, and there was nowhere for me to go or to react fast enough, so i ended up making contact with him. But yeah.... in the end, the race wasn't too bad.

 

[stpatty]

Surprised people are mentioning fuel for this race. I was fully revving out the GT-R, which isn't great on fuel, all through the races I did and I was finishing with fuel left.

 

[Famine]

Surprised people are mentioning fuel for this race. I was fully revving out the GT-R, which isn't great on fuel, all through the races I did and I was finishing with fuel left.

I had a full lap of fuel left at the end (I should have burned more on the grid), but a guy in a Mitsubishi pitted behind me from fifth on the penultimate lap with 4 litres remaining.

 

[stpatty]

I had a full lap of fuel left at the end (I should have burned more on the grid), but a guy in a Mitsubishi pitted behind me from fifth on the penultimate lap with 4 litres remaining.

As if the Lancer didn't have enough problems. Maybe the Nissan is better than I've realised.

 

[Sean YZF]

I've gone with Lexus for this season, canny enough car and handles reasonably well, not the fastest car out there but stable.
Qualifying didn't go too well, picked up 0.5 pen for track infringement. Started 17th, picked up a few places due to the carnage, briefly made into the top 10, got squeezed out at the 1st set of left handers so back to position I started, just kept it on track after that. Finished 14th due to others mistakes.
I did finish top Lexus driver, mainly because I was the only one driving one

 

[ivann]

lets follow the leader, go go go

 

[VulcanSpirit]

As some of you could tell from my earlier posts, I have officially decided to return to Ford for the real 2020 Manufacturers season. It was enjoyable to have a change in the Exhibition events, but test lobbies for both Suzuka and Red Bull Ring convinced me that the Mustang Gr.4 and GT LM had better pace and feel post-update than the Citroens I initially wanted to go with.

And so it is with great pleasure that I report my first result under the renewed contract:

15:00 Manufacturers
Entered as one of two GTs alongside a French NLR driver, ranked 7th and 6th respectively. Beat my FP time on my second qualifying lap while following a Supra (1:29.444 vs a 1:29.505), which was enough for me to start 5th. Really close session, with the top 6 (McLaren F1, Lambo, Mazda, Honda, myself, Audi) being covered by under four-tenths of a second.

Made an admittedly conservative start, witnessing the Honda going off at Niki Lauda Kurve before losing the place to the Audi under braking for Remus. Took a wide line at that point to give him plenty of room, but ran wide on cold tyres and decided to let the French Ford go so that at least one of us could maintain 5th. There were some points where I was slower through corners than I should've been (especially Turns 6-7), which gave ample opportunity to let a couple of Porsches get close despite my teammate losing it at Niki Lauda on Lap 4. The French Porsche stayed on my tail the longest, and while we began to close in on the Top 4 he was proving very difficult to shake off.

Outbraked myself into Niki Lauda on Lap 10, allowing the Porsche through as I coasted over the outside kerb. There was slight side-on contact as he passed, but nothing too serious, and my slow speed thankfully saved me from the penalty that I was determined not to pick up. In a way, this pass proved useful for both of us; three laps from the end, yellow flags appear at Niki Lauda Kurve… the pole-sitting McLaren has binned it! With at least another lap's worth of fuel in reserve, I began unleashing the Ford's extra power in the hope of sticking to what was possibly becoming a 5-car train for the lead!

Coming up to the final lap, the German Lambo driver picks up a 0.5-second penalty for skittering over the astroturf. Compounding his frustration, he goes wide again at Niki Lauda, which is enough for me to surge up into 4th and stay there. Couldn't make any more ground on the Porsche, but to finish 1.8 seconds off the winning Audi, without penalties and while still having 1.2 laps' worth of fuel in the tank (7%), was enough to leave me grinning for some time.

Even now, I'm still grinning. Too early to say how well the GT or the Mustang Gr.4 will fare over the course of the season, but 233 points is a fantastic start considering that I never used to get on with the former. As things are, the GT feels much better for me in lobby conditions than it does in FP or Daily Race qualifying, and I'm happy to add that my French teammate still came home 6th despite also picking up a penalty later on. Glad to know I'm not the only one who has faith in the Blue Oval this time around. :biggrinsvg:

 

[Adam Barber]

I've gone with Lexus for this season, canny enough car and handles reasonably well, not the fastest car out there but stable.
Qualifying didn't go too well, picked up 0.5 pen for track infringement. Started 17th, picked up a few places due to the carnage, briefly made into the top 10, got squeezed out at the 1st set of left handers so back to position I started, just kept it on track after that. Finished 14th due to others mistakes.
I did finish top Lexus driver, mainly because I was the only one driving one

Good luck really solid all rounder in Gr3, gr4 is a bit more of a power car.

 

[SpecMiata-JSW]

My first race in the BMW Z4 went ok. Started 15th and i finished 11th.

Once again i got blocked in quali!!!! it's really starting to annoy me now.

In the race, the same guy who blocked me in quali, bumped into me twice, one of the bumps actually helped me gain a position haha. Later on in the race i got given a 1 second penalty because a porsche and a audi were playing bumper cars with each other and that caused the audi to spin out right in front of me, and there was nowhere for me to go or to react fast enough, so i ended up making contact with him. But yeah.... in the end, the race wasn't too bad.

Did the Z4 feel relatively competitive power wise? I did a practice race in the Z4 last night and felt the draft and a good run out of a corner would only get me a tad closer to the car in front (mostly Porsche's). If i got next to a car I couldn't pass it though. I know the new draft is a lot weaker (which I'm a fan of), but if felt like anyone behind me could catch up rather quickly. I was lapping at mid 1:30's for most of the race and scored a high :29 to give you an idea of my pace.

I was super tired last night, so it was hard to judge if it was me that was off or if the car is down in the horsepower department.

 

[Bourdais1993]

Another race that was dominated by nissan... took me 3 races to get into p6 and i was driving a corvette... i guess they have to do some work on nissan and lambo or other drivers will not have a chance to win

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Well. Good news and really bad news for me. I won my very first FIA race, on my son's account (my old one) but in the process I pushed p3 off.
At first I took it for a racing incident, but upon viewing the replay it's my doing.

I qualified as p3, and promptly went Baywatch at Schlossgold, putting me in p6. The guy whose race I am about to ruin is now in P1.
I work my way up to third, but at Castrol Edge I let two cars by to avoid an accident. They where simply faster at that time and even if I had the inside it was too unsure to gamble on.
We kept on, I focused on going slow in, fast out, coasting through corners and getting on the gas early and it paid off.
On lap 9 I was 4th, the unlucky guy up ahead was gingerwarrior180, and I was right behind coming to Remus. I was planning to stay behind but he took a wide and deep line so I went inside.
To me it looked as if he was going too deep but then turned sharply in front of me.
Unfortunately the replay shows I was a bit too wide to give him room, we touch slightly, but enough for him to spin....

I carried on, I feel bad about that now, had a tight fight right to Remus on lap 15 where I for the first time made P1 and fastest lap.
I won. But I don't feel good about it.

 

[Razgriz2118]

There is a slight difference in handling between FP and lobbies, which along with tyre wear/fuel consumption switched on will have an effect on your lap times. Usually my laps in lobbies are about 1-2 seconds slower than the FP times I set, and I often find it useful to adjust brake bias settings to account for changes felt between these sessions.

Trail braking is an absolute necessity if you want to improve your times while preserving tyres. I highly recommend watching @Tidgney's tutorial on braking for a thorough breakdown of standard and trail techniques:



Don't worry about not being in the 'dominant' car, though. In one of the test lobbies I took part in, I was hounded by a Porsche for much of the race until he made a mistake; his quali lap was a 1:30.029.​

Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely have to give those videos a watch when I get a chance. I also got my GTEYE springs for the G27 in today, I'm not going to swap springs out until after this race at the earliest, I don't want to have to get used to a new pedal feel in the middle of a race.
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Surprised people are mentioning fuel for this race. I was fully revving out the GT-R, which isn't great on fuel, all through the races I did and I was finishing with fuel left.

I was surprised reading this too. In free practice I had 12% fuel left despite revving the RSR out fully the entire time.[/QUOTE]

 

[barak181]

On lap 10 I was 4th, the unlucky guy up ahead was gingerwarrior180, and I was right behind coming to Remus. I was planning to stay behind but he took a wide and deep line so I went inside.
To me it looked as if he was going too deep but then turned sharply in front of me.
Unfortunately the replay shows I was a bit too wide to give him room, we touch slightly, but enough for him to spin....

Of course, it's impossible to tell without the replay but from the way you describe it, it's as much his fault as yours. Yes, maybe you could have stayed tighter in the turn but he also has to be more aware. Going wide then cutting sharply while in traffic is usually a recipe for disaster.