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tbf watching @Tidgney's stream was almost more entertaining than usual

Can't wait to see how they spin it in the youtube broadcast tomorrow. Also can't wait to see what the chat looks like, it was wild enough the first time they did the Nations stream on a Tuesday and Jimmy got a phantom penalty in the karts.
 
Decided to go again in Nations. Somehow finished 10th in spite of being an absolute moron during the entire session...

In qualifying I gave myself a penalty running wide onto the back straight, which meant that both my current hot lap and the next one were ruined, so I quit and tried to see if I could start another hot lap before time ran out, which of course I couldn't, so I started 19th of 20, only because 20th also didn't set a time for some reason.

I then nearly spin myself on the final corner at the start (started on hards) and fall to 20th, and by the end of Lap 1 when I pitted to get rid of the Hards, I was 17th. I then proceeded to screw up the absurdly tight corner (you know the one...) no less than 3 times; twice out-braking myself, and once almost spinning out when trying to accelerate, after which I didn't fully gather the car up until the final corner.

I also somehow set the fastest lap of the race, so a much better finish was definitely on the cards (though not a win, because @Pigems was in the race :lol:. How did you get placed with us slow pokes?). 136 points isn't worth anything to me at this point, so I've got literally nothing to lose by going again...
 
I'm tired of going into the first race, doing okay but probably having a bad strategy, thinking I'll do the next race and improve on my result, only to have a spin, be divebomb punted, and heavily penalized for things I didn't do, and get a far worse result.

6th in my first race, 17th and nearly 50 seconds behind in my second race. Real waste.

So now I'm going to attempt the exact same thing with the second Manufacturer's race...
 
Anyone watching @Pigems stream? Holy retaliation dive bomb end of L6. P1 taken out by P2 from 100m away before chicane. :lol:

I’m not sure what P1 did to deserve that, unless it was from a previous race maybe? That was vicious! :lol:

Decided to go again in Nations. Somehow finished 10th in spite of being an absolute moron during the entire session...

In qualifying I gave myself a penalty running wide onto the back straight, which meant that both my current hot lap and the next one were ruined, so I quit and tried to see if I could start another hot lap before time ran out, which of course I couldn't, so I started 19th of 20, only because 20th also didn't set a time for some reason.

I then nearly spin myself on the final corner at the start (started on hards) and fall to 20th, and by the end of Lap 1 when I pitted to get rid of the Hards, I was 17th. I then proceeded to screw up the absurdly tight corner (you know the one...) no less than 3 times; twice out-braking myself, and once almost spinning out when trying to accelerate, after which I didn't fully gather the car up until the final corner.

I also somehow set the fastest lap of the race, so a much better finish was definitely on the cards (though not a win, because @Pigems was in the race :lol:. How did you get placed with us slow pokes?). 136 points isn't worth anything to me at this point, so I've got literally nothing to lose by going again...

Good race man! It was a pleasure to share the track with you. :cheers:

I got run off on lap 1 and rage quit my last 2 races on that account, so I lost my + and now have to earn it back. :)
 
I’m not sure what P1 did to deserve that, unless it was from a previous race maybe? That was vicious! :lol:



Good race man! It was a pleasure to share the track with you. :cheers:

I got run off on lap 1 and rage quit my last 2 races on that account, so I lost my + and now have to earn it back. :)
Gotta applaud his accuracy. Nothing worse than a retaliation dive bomb where you completely miss.
 
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If I was fortunate enough to share the track with any of you guys, thank you.
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I qualified p6, Ran 5s/8m/1h/5s.
Hade some close racing with some very clean people and finished p6.
Good fun.
 
Off the back of test lobbies and a sub-1:36 FP time, I went into yesterday's Manufacturers round with a lot of promise and a chance to carry the momentum from Red Bull Ring. Unfortunately, as it so often happens in FIA races, the proceedings didn't turn out quite as I had expected.

15:00 Manufacturers
Once again met @watto79 and my French teammate as the 13th seed. Though an uneventful session for me, qualifying was genuinely close, with the top fourteen drivers separated by just over eight-tenths. Could've done with making my two fliers a little less scrappy - best was a 1:36.942 on my second try. Eleventh didn't seem like a bad place to start, but having clocked mid-1:36s and even a high 1:36.1 in practice, I could already feel disappointment in not fulfilling the GT LM's true potential.

The response to that was to abort my planned tyre strategy (7S-9M-2H) and instead do the first stint on Mediums. In hindsight, this was probably the most solid part, as it didn't take long for me to start gaining places as others went off and picked up penalties. Over time, a train of cars for third place - lead by my French teammate - began forming up ahead, and despite having to relinquish a place to a TEST BMW I managed to get close to the tail of the formation. This meant having to fend off attacks from a Michelin Porsche, which eventually lead us to trade 9th and 10th places as the pitstop cycles came into force. By Lap 9, I was following my teammate, along with a Porsche and AMG GT, in a three-car line for 3rd. We all dived into the pits together, and in an attempt to jump them later on I decided to get the Hard compounds out of the way.

In the short-term, this seemed to work, even as I was shortly hounded and passed by a Russian Honda. That didn't matter, for it would soon be my chance to take on Softs and leapfrog the runners up front. With six laps remaining, my GT LM was running in 14th, having been beaten to the first corner by another AMG. This didn't help my cause or my mood, nor did losing significant chunks of time trying to pass a pair of Alfas for 11th and 12th places. While the AMG eventually got clear, the MYTEAM Alfa was not making things easy for me, and it took a pass around the outside of the second hairpin on Lap 14 to finally pull past. While I lost more time trying to fight the AMG on Lap 17, perhaps the final lot of pitstops - the sequence of late switches to Hard compounds - would help me salvage another top-10 spot?

When a purple, blue and red Alfa pulled out of pit road on the run into the first S-bend, this looked to be the case. I draw alongside and ahead, take the apex through the first part and think I might have the job done with a clean exit. But, the Alfa takes a tighter line and shuts the door on me; there's contact which causes me to shimmy over the kerb. Any chance of salvaging 10th is gone unless I can floor it and take advantage of his lower grip levels. It's close... but no cigar. Despite a few sketchy moments, the Alfa crosses the line just over a tenth ahead...

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Though on reflection I probably shouldn't have felt too frustrated with this run, 11th place and 159 points seemed like poor rewards for the pace I had set in FP and practice. Towards the end, it became clear to me that going onto Hards first was a major mistake, having lost contact with the mid-top 10 group in doing so. Going again with the prospect of a better qualifying run and finish would be essential if I was to get a points score that better reflected the GT LM's FP performance.

20:40 Manufacturers
And yet, I almost thought against doing it. Was already feeling tired from last night's Bridgestone Tour race (which if you haven't seen @Pigems' replay of was an absolute hoot), plus some working commitments I finished before the 15:00 slot, so abandoned my plan to enter the 18:00 as I hadn't quite rested fully. My mind was still cloudy about the 20:40 until the last minute of entry, but in my apprehension and determination I finally decided to sign up and see how I'd go.

Despite being the 4th seed and facing many of the competitors from the 15:00, I somehow managed to make an even bigger hash of qualifying this time. Hopped the kerb at the death chicane into the barriers on my first flier, and turned to the right expecting everyone to get by on the usual line. What I don't see coming is a Porsche drifting wildly in my rear-view mirror, slamming into my rear bumper as he tries to save it. The result is a 2-second penalty for me as I scrape along the tunnel wall; initially, I thought I had accidentally blocked him through lifting off to let traffic past, but watching my on-board more clearly confirmed to me that he was already out of control.

No point in setting another lap from that point; I would've been a mobile roadblock anyway. It was also while pitting that I realised that I had gone out on Mediums. Clearly I had forgotten to change them back after the 15:00! :ouch:

I've had 20th-place starts before, but this was a new one on me. Never had I felt so foggy and disorganised in an FIA qualifying session!

So, the strategy was a no-brainer. I would start on Hards and work through the pack in the same way I did in the Brands Hatch Gr.3 Exhibition race. It would mean having to deal with a sketchier and less confident GT LM, but this didn't seem to matter too much when the stint would be short and sweet. On Lap 2, an Alfa pushes another off before the first hairpin; I take to the inside kerb, sensing there is enough space to get by the unfortunate Martini-liveried car. Said Martini Alfa re-joins sideways, clouting my left-rear and prompting me to question my cleanliness in that given scenario. Gave him an apology afterwards, so no harm done.

Anyway, from Hard to Mediums we go, and our progress is tentative at first. Lost 18th and part of my cool to the Citroen on Softs, but we keep going. My mind begins clearing up as we cross the half-way mark and see that the bottom half of the top 10 is in reach. By Lap 11 I am sitting in provisional 7th, though the treads on the GT LM are starting to lose their edge. Following my switch to Softs, the heat turned up as I started making rapid gains on the white Alfa (in another Martini livery) in front. However, much of the next few laps is spent trying to fend off the pole-sitting Porsche, who first makes his presence known by gently nudging me to the kerb out of the final hairpin. Next, he tries to make a lunge at the esses, but all he succeeds in doing is holding us up and letting the Alfa briefly get away. A better run out of the death chicane leads to the Porsche attacking again, this time at the final hairpin once more. I take a wider line; the Porsche slides, and I floor it around the outside.

By this time, the Alfa must have felt sorry for holding us up, so he indicated left on Lap 14 as we neared the first S-bend. I took the inside; a deep, but clean line, and away. The Porsche soon followed past as well. Still 30 seconds down on the leading Frenchman, but doing well on fuel consumption and making gains. The Citroen is eliminated at the S-bend, as is the Spanish Porsche two laps from the end. Closing in on the MYTEAM Alfa from earlier, but again he proves very awkward to pass. As soon as we cleared the last-lap pitters, I knew I had done enough to secure 8th place, though the Ford still had plenty in reserve to challenge the Alfa some more. The Alfa shuts the doors on me down the straight to the second hairpin, before I remind myself that we need to get through the death chicane one last time.

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Cannot stress how relieved I felt when I crossed the line. 190 points and the temporary honour of being Ford's best-scoring driver of the day felt like a antidote to the disappointment and uncertainty I had burrowed myself into earlier. Not sure when I will next commit to an FIA meeting as I have a very busy month ahead, but rest assured I will still try and get a few done where I can. Hopefully with a clearer head and without messing up qualifying, too...
 
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Well, that was awesome.

Slot 2 I get spun trying to pit after lap 1. I respawn back on the straightaway but the lap counter doesn't turn over. I run lap 1 a second time. When I try to pit it respawns me back on the straightaway and the lap counter still doesn't turn over.

After a punt-filled P16 and now a disconnect I might as well be DR.C, if I'm not in actuality. I should go seal clubbing in Race C now or something to work out my newfound aggression.
 
I have no clue how I manage this. Qualify 9th for the Manufacturer's race, which was disappointing compared to my previous effort, as usual, but I managed to pick off the entire field and grab the lead before the pit stop at the halfway point. I make my pit stop, run the Hards for a lap, then pit again, and am still maintaining the lead. One car manages to come up and catch me on the 14th lap, but he pits for his Hards. I have a 6-second lead, the fuel says I have 1.0 laps left. So I go conservative, just need to finish the lap, don't need any mistakes.

Run out of fuel before the last corner. Fall to 3rd. I have no clue how it happened. I had everything going my way, it was such a beautiful race with the passes and fighting, and I still lost it.
 
Race 3 - Dragon Trail Seaside - RACE EDIT

After my disaster race at Red Bull Ring I needed redemption. I like this track, but the chicane is the wild card in race when people crowd you in that area. The 2 stop strategy was not going to work for me as the Soft could not last as long as needed so I settled on a 3 stop.
My plan was simply balls to the wall. Started on softs for 5 laps, then medium until lap 11. Finishing off with soft until end of lap 17 and then hard for the last lap.
The mayhem in T2 and T3 set me up perfectly for the rest of the race where the strategy worked beautifully ..... watch it !


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Stressful evening turned out good. Tried the manufacturers at 1800 but suffered disconnects about 10mins before so didn’t want to risk it. Then for the 2040 the internet went down for the whole house so we all spent the next hour being grumpy.

Last chance for the 2330 - Qualified P6, and spent the first half of the race drafting in P4.

Was thinking a 8S-2H-8M strategy, but the softs on the Atenza were still good for more so switched to 10S-7M-1H and never looked back. Finished with my first FIA win and got my 20th overall win to go with it.

Also, I think that’s my first time not being a victim of the chicane of death on any lap. Be amazed if that happens again.

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My Manufacturers run isn't worth talking about. Qualify low down, don't overtake, blah blah blah. It wasn't good. The Nations run on the other hand, was a hell of a lot of fun.

Was in the first slot with @Hasnain282 and @watto79. Hasnain did really well, great qualifying lap and a solid race, as you good people may have seen from his stream. Myself and Watto were further down the order, 14th and 15th at the start and with work to do.

We were still 14th and 15th into T1, but the other way around as my decision to start on hard tyres came to haunt me and I nearly crashed before the start of L1. It was only a short pain though as I pitted for mediums then got onto the softs at the end of L4 and that's where I stayed until the end of the race. Huge credit to the Spaniard who saw me going full send into T1 on L7, a lap I very much enjoyed as I gained four places through various incidents, I had noticed he was on slower tyres and he could have easily cut me off or caused a crash. As it turned out the move was critical to being ahead of him on pit exits later in the race. It was a constant case of 'my tyres are fresher than yours', and it played out that way. The high tyre degradation meaning that you always had something to push for or something to defend. Was just a really fun race, highlights of it below

 
Today’s FIA was something for me.

The Nations race. I quailfied P16. I believe I would have done better if one racer didn’t mess my pace up. Qualifying is not a race.

I finished 13th. First few laps was bad. I got cocky and spun it on the chicane. Also, I hit someone that braked right in the middle of T1 and sent him flying. I did the right thing to wait for like 15 seconds....only for him to lose it all by himself smh.

As for Manufacturer’s:
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Im new to GT sport and I was wondering if someone could help me to figure out why I came 5th in last night's G3 manufacturers online event but then as the other drivers behind me were crossing the finish line my position dropped 4 times to end up in 9th?

I didn't get any penalties during the race and was my best performance so far starting 10th on the grid and drove really smooth apex to apex.
Was a real rush coming 5th and my adrenaline was pumping but to then watch my placing drop for no reason gutted me pretty hard.

If its not bad enough getting 4sec penalties for getting bumped off the track by other drivers by no fault of my own, then whatever happened last night is the last straw and don't think I will play online
events again.

Any info would be much appreciated.
Cheers Tom
 
Im new to GT sport and I was wondering if someone could help me to figure out why I came 5th in last night's G3 manufacturers online event but then as the other drivers behind me were crossing the finish line my position dropped 4 times to end up in 9th?

I didn't get any penalties during the race and was my best performance so far starting 10th on the grid and drove really smooth apex to apex.
Was a real rush coming 5th and my adrenaline was pumping but to then watch my placing drop for no reason gutted me pretty hard.

If its not bad enough getting 4sec penalties for getting bumped off the track by other drivers by no fault of my own, then whatever happened last night is the last straw and don't think I will play online
Tyres?

You have to use all compounds for this round of both Manufacturers and Nations or you'll get a 60s penalty
 
I actually like driving the Gr. 2 cars, and since my driving style favors high-downforce cars (Gr. 1, F1500T, Mercedes F1, the Red Bull cars, etc.), you'd think I'd be very competitive in them, but when I start to push them hard and drive on the limit, I make way more mistakes with them than I do just about any other car, so I never see good results when I try to race them in FIA races.

I also despise Catalunya. It's like it's the result of a track designer than said, "How can we take Nurburgring GP, and make it EVEN WORSE?"

You'd think that putting the results of these 2 things together would result in a frustrating race, right?

Well, in the final slot of the evening, I qualified 6th, only 0.3s off of 2nd, who was 0.8s off of pole. In the end I made a few mistakes, but finished 5th for 183 points, which I'm pretty sure is my first-ever Top-5 finish in a Gr. 2 car...
 
Ok cool I only used soft compound.

So after each pit stop I needed to change compound to medium then hard tires?

Thanks for ur help
Some racers are tricky, they will use Softs for a couple stops, medium for a few laps, then hard for one lap if all 3 are required. I assumed S, M, H also and went from battling for the lead to 7th, dropping lower after each pit stop. I didn’t make the same mistake in the 2nd race after figuring it out.
 
Ok cool I only used soft compound.

So after each pit stop I needed to change compound to medium then hard tires?

Thanks for ur help

You can watch my video that I posted earlier to get an idea on how a tire strategy could work. The key is to understand how long each compound last for each race. Then you try and maximize the time on the fastest compound.
Before the race you can catch the strategies on this forum that people are discussing.
 
I actually like driving the Gr. 2 cars, and since my driving style favors high-downforce cars (Gr. 1, F1500T, Mercedes F1, the Red Bull cars, etc.), you'd think I'd be very competitive in them, but when I start to push them hard and drive on the limit, I make way more mistakes with them than I do just about any other car, so I never see good results when I try to race them in FIA races.

I also despise Catalunya. It's like it's the result of a track designer than said, "How can we take Nurburgring GP, and make it EVEN WORSE?"

You'd think that putting the results of these 2 things together would result in a frustrating race, right?

Well, in the final slot of the evening, I qualified 6th, only 0.3s off of 2nd, who was 0.8s off of pole. In the end I made a few mistakes, but finished 5th for 183 points, which I'm pretty sure is my first-ever Top-5 finish in a Gr. 2 car...
I think the Gr2 cars are a riot. Challenging to drive yet can manhandle them if you make a mistake, and save it. Not like the Gr3 cars. To get top speed out of them you’ve got to be on your game, though. Had a blast driving them at Barcelona, I don’t think I’ve raced there on GT Sport before this, maybe just Forza, because it seemed different to me. But it was a great change of pace, after tons of Gr3 and 4 racing the last couple of months.
 
Had decent pace tonight, but my internet was being flaky and this happened during qualifying in both my races:

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All the same, can’t be to upset with this race. Moving up 12 spots in a FIA is tough sledding.


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weird side note...I don’t use the stock livery, and the game showed mine during introductions. Internet issues perhaps.
 
I cant believe how bad the viper is on gas. At RBR I was the only car getting gas lol and ofcoarse I was in 7th, couldnt fuel save cause i had to go flat out. Entered Dragon trail twice 1st race qualified 13th and bumped so yeah. 2nd entry qualified 7th and bumped again. 3rd entry tried different strategy, purposely did bad quali started 19th. Started on hards did 2 laps then did 6 on mediums, then did 8 on softs. Very risky but paid off, I went from 19th to 8th and got 115 points so im good
 
I forgot how exhausting back-to-back Nations/Manu races are, especially with the current race lengths. IMO on Sundays where the Supra Cup isn't on PD should move Manu back to what it was.

Also, the next Manu race has exactly the same track/fuel/tyre combinations as last season :odd: Are they checking to see if anyone still tries to cheat with the tyre strat?

Nations slot 1: Disconnected

Manufacturers Slot 1: Great race, finished P6 in the Alfa. A few small mistakes cost me precious seconds. Knew T16 had the potential for chaos so was looking forward to it...

Nations Top 16: Disconnected

Manufacturers Top 16: Disconnected

I got disconnected from the first slot Wednesday RBR Gr.3 race. First time that happened since last year. And in the other races, matching seems to take a lot longer than usual (up to 3 minutes in some cases). Something is definitely up with the Oceania servers...
 
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