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The highlight of my race was not murdering anyone in turn 1. Twice.



Finished 14th. I don't have what it takes to make the 4C competitive at Fuji (despite its ability to outbrake everyone).
 
Nations race was fun at the start. Only had time to do the last slot. Snagged P5 in qualy on the last lap. Struggled a little at the start up the race and dropped 3 spots by lap 4. Then Turn comes and I go a hair deep and the rear starts to slip. In the middle on recovering I get a tap in the rear that puts me into a spin. P8 to P20. 19th was already out of slipstream range from P18 so race over. Finished 16th due to two people spinning. Frustrating race.
 
I’m not sure if I’d blame the SS, but something has definitely changed recently. It’s been since the last BoP change if I remember correctly. :)

It's going to swing back somewhat, I'd assume. The question is when, and that's what makes me nervous.
 
I’m not sure if I’d blame the SS, but something has definitely changed recently. It’s been since the last BoP change if I remember correctly. :)
I think it was the handling and tire change. And yes, something has changed, but the power cars still are faster on the straights. Just look at the GT-R læst week.
 
Laughs in PUG. I have no intent in making up the 9s loss from the pit. But after some testing, a 2-stop is still faster in this thing. By lap 5 on RS i lose 2s per lap, lap 6 is 3s per lap, etc. It's mostly lost in the 3rd sector. The PUG seems to demand a 2 stop and even then need to do 5 RM laps + 2 stints of RS for the remaining 8.

I will probably qualify decent but there's 0 possibility of keeping up with the race. Just going to try and hide the tears on the inside where no one can see them.
I was in a practice race with you last night, and when I watched the replay, your Mediums were wearing at a slightly quicker rate than my Softs were. In the 2nd race, I did a 1-stopper and while I don't remember the exact time loss, I believe by Lap 6 on the Softs I was less than 2s off of my fastest time with them. But you're also way faster than me in general, so it's no surprise you can make up that 9s gap that I can't. :lol:

The handling cars seem to be OP everywhere now, even on the power tracks. Powers cars are all but useless at the moment it seems.
I’m not sure if I’d blame the SS, but something has definitely changed recently. It’s been since the last BoP change if I remember correctly. :)
I think the handling update that coincided with the slipstream strength update is what ruined most of the power-based cars (in Gr. 4 at least). If anything, you'd think the reduced slipstream would give the power cars and advantage since the slower cars would have a harder time pulling up to them in the slipstream.
 
Not much positivity ahead...

EMEA

Nations, Blue Moon Speedway

Slot 1:
Disconnected as matching-making about to start.

Slot 2:
Missed entry time by seconds due to real life taking over.

Decided to fix the loose steering column on my G29, which required drilling, nuts and bolts and so missed the evening slots until...

Slot 7:
1 minute is all it takes to sum it up:


North America

First slot I made it to was...

Slot 4:
Made it to around Lap 10 and was starting to get bashed about when... I had a split-second power cut! PS4 off and router rebooted.

Slot 5:

Mediocre qually again, with @KingPittDawg streaming once again, and starting right behind me. Was shaping up to be a good race,or so it seemed...


A good mid-pack race ruined by a couple of the usual suspects. Didn't look like I'd lost DR after the aborted Slot 4, but now it appears I did as my race total jumped by 2 after slot 5.
After those two races, I've dropped nearly 2600 DR. Joy.:banghead:
 
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Pretty happy with 5th. I’ve now finished 5th in my last 4 rounds I’ve entered :lol:

Started on Mediums and went for 5M/4S/4S. Picked up a 1 second track penalty on Lap 1 and dropped back to 9th. Cayman is brilliant on the corners and managed to get past the heavier cars like GTRs on the inside of corners a few times. After pitting in 6th I was then 12th but didn’t take long to get positions back on the Softs.
 
Had a blast last night on the little Mazda. Thought it was going to be a somewhat boring race, but turned out to be a very tense and fun one.

For the first race I had nearly no practice on the track, so qualified almost last, but used it as a learning race. The star was... Interesting. Apart from that, not much happened.



Second race on the other hand was a lot more interesting. Put a little more practice on and managed to get on a good slipstream trail, qualifying 5th, which was much, much better than what I was hoping for. The race was well disputed, and the Mexicans made it very interesting, to say the least. The fellow Brazilian who I was racing with ran out of fuel on the final straight. The Mexican who had a brawl with him was punted wide and ran out of fuel, finishing 18th. Pretty good result, was not expecting that



Looking forward to Fuji, always a hard track to get dead right!
 
In the practice races I did last night, in the Cayman, I could make a 1 stop work no problem, although I didn't test a two stop. On RS 6 laps was the absolute maximum amount of time I could spend on them, by around lap 5 fresh RMs would be faster but the time loss still isn't too severe. For RMs 7 laps is the absolute maximum amount of time I could spend on them, with lap 6 being the distance where the tires really started to drop off.
 
In the practice races I did last night, in the Cayman, I could make a 1 stop work no problem, although I didn't test a two stop. On RS 6 laps was the absolute maximum amount of time I could spend on them, by around lap 5 fresh RMs would be faster but the time loss still isn't too severe. For RMs 7 laps is the absolute maximum amount of time I could spend on them, with lap 6 being the distance where the tires really started to drop off.
Seems like a real toss-up in terms of whether to go 1- or 2-stop, in a Cayman. Might be determined by track position, and whether you think passing on softs is really viable or if the people around you are going to be difficult to get around cleanly. Or, if you're a high door number in the lobby, and you think most of the drivers that qualify ahead of you are on the whole, faster than you-- maybe take a 1-stopper. I had good luck at Sardegna starting on softs, to gain as much track position as possible at the start, so I'm thinking 4S/5M/4S, unless the situation unfolds oddly.
 
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In case you didn't know, you can qualify on the soft tire and before the race starts change your starting tire back to medium. That 60 seconds between qualy and race the settings are open. you should always qualify on the fastest tire.
Nah, that's just me. I experiment. Daring to be different. Testing my skill to see how competitive I can be on alternative strategies.

Read my next race and I did qualify using the RS. Also started on the RS. Moved up one position from when I started. 👍

This IS a game to me. I like having fun in different ways. ;)
 
Can’t say I’m disappointed about my manufacturer cup race. I pledged BMW and here the tires are a real problem. Qualified second with 1.41.4, made a two stopper, started with soft, changed to mediums at lap five, then changed to softs at lap nine.

I did consider a one stopper but the fronts die way too fast.

Not bad however considering the tire consumption handicap my car has on this track.
 
Well, what do you know? I found pace in the Gr.4 Mustang for the first time in ages!

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Kept a low profile in qualifying as the sole Ford representative, at one point witnessing a humorous incident where an unghosting Aston drives past me and punts the red and black Cayman in front. Said Aston loses out by picking up a penalty; the Cayman, meanwhile, becomes my slipstream partner. Gained two-tenths on my fastest FP time in the first sector, and stuck with him well enough to put in a 1:40.128. Gained another four-hundredths before the Cayman cut Coca Cola curve and took a 0.5 second penalty. Wasn't close enough to a second Cayman up ahead, but was ecstatic to line up 2nd... nearly six-hundredths off the first Cayman.

Going into the race, I knew that a gentler driving style was key to eking out tyre life in the Mustang. Started on Softs as I felt they would give me enough of a buffer ahead of any potential Medium starters, and fended off a challenge from a silver, black and neon yellow NSX as I tried not to scrub my cold treads. Pulled ahead and drew the Cayman in via his slipstream, temporarily setting the fastest lap on Lap 2 (1:40.966) and briefly getting ahead at the start of Lap 5. Didn't want to lose time fighting so took a wide entry into the 1st corner and carried on drafting. By the end of Lap 6, I knew the Softs were beginning to go off, but managed to stick around for another lap before we both pulled in for Mediums. A fine stint indeed.

It was at that point where I learned that the pack running in 3rd-6th (McLaren, Aston, Honda, Porsche) had started on the harder compounds. A sloppy outlap - complete with a near-spin coming out of Panasonic - along with generally better pace from the Cayman meant that my time in the slipstream was up. Sure enough, the McLaren (piloted by a fellow Brit) reels me in and begins looking to make a pass on Lap 10. I had anticipated letting him go at the 13th corner, but instead he sneaks his nose up the inside at Dunlop. I give him a wide berth so we avoid contact, but this results in me going wide and picking up a 0.5 second penalty. Fair play does come with a price, it seems.

This puts us out of contention for a podium, and we instead slot within the Aston-Honda-Porsche battle. Gamely let the Mobil 1 Cayman through on the run to Coca Cola as he had the inside; the next lap, he nearly loses it after being forced onto the kerb by the Honda. Had the momentum to try a pass around the outside, but backed out. From there, it was a case of building up and maintaining a 3.5 second cushion from the Ferrari for 212 points.

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A sedate, but astonishingly great run in the Mustang - greater than it had any right to be. It may not be the best-performing Gr.4 car right now, but I'm so happy to have given the winning Cayman some pressure and prove that it can at least mingle at the front with a less aggressive driving style. Could have done without that penalty, but even so I would've had to work hard for 3rd anyway. Knew I had podium pace coming out of last Saturday's showing, but never expected to show it without the GT LM on hand!
 
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In Oceania there are only two top split slots worth any points for manufacturers on weekdays, 4pm and 5:20pm. I could only enter 5:20pm as I have work (PD please move this timeslot back?).

Qualifying was a disaster. Slipstream is worth over 0.6 seconds per lap here. I had a two-lap run. First lap I was in a tow but the car in front got a penalty, hit the brakes in the middle of the long right hander and quit back to the pits, which left me without a tow for most of the lap, which I needed with the 4C.

Someone dropped into the gap in front of me for lap 2 but I got baulked and had to overtake a slower car off the race line which cost a few tenths. Started P9 with a 1:40.0 where I should have started near the front.

Anyway I was trying to make progress through the race when this happened


Slot 3 I decided I wasn't going to risk traffic issues and started P5 having set a 1:39.8 without a tow, which I thought was okay if not great. The person sitting in my draft for that lap immediately set a time 0.5 seconds faster.

Anyway the race was only worth 286 points and I finished P3. The only good thing that happened tonight was gaining DR, and somehow not disconnecting (had 16 disconnects so far this season and would like to avoid another one).
 
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That was a really good race. Almost didn’t enter as Mustang didn’t feel great in practice but it was actually pretty quick in the race.

Qualifying wasn’t great, picking up a penalty on my quick lap so started 11th on Mediums. As soon as I was into Softs I started climbing through the field. Felt bad on the last lap accidentally punting the car in 5th on T1 as they swerved in front of me at the last minute and I couldn’t avoid him. I then made a mistake a few corners later losing 5th position. The car I hit was on a revenge mission and went for the punt back on me but missed and hit the car in 5th :lol: Then in the lobby the guy in 5th thought it was me and had a moan at me for not releasing the accelerator!

Anyway, best race in the Gr.4 Mustang so far.
 
got a belly full of humble pie!
was confident after the last few races but was out of my league. got door 18, qualified 17th in the Megany and ended 15th.
had a fun, clean fight with an Italian fellow in a Mercedes where we overtook eachother a few times, the Megane was faster in the corners so i did manage to pull away from him in the end. But it was a bit frustrating to get passed so easily on the straight. did 8M/5S.

Most drivers qualified faster then my best lap in practice so i knew i had a hart time coming but don't like to sit out races not suited for me or the car so if i have the chance then i will at least try to race.
 
Nations cup yesterday:
Qualified 3, finished 2nd after a really good battle against the leader.

Today's manu was really depressing, 15th in quali, soft tyres dead after 3 laps, last place... Disconnected 3 turns before the end. :lol:
I'm definitely going to leave lexus.
I don't know what i should pick, any advice? (i'm on ds4)
 

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1st attempt was a complete disaster. No slip in quali, and then race was full of people just beating the hell out of each other for 13th place.

2nd attempt went a little better, but I seemed to struggle with tyre wear. Had one interesting move on me, in the vid below, but the rest was just being a bit of a rolling roadblock again. Managed to get 8th, so ok result, but unless the Jag gets BoP'd a bit I think I will move onto a less understeery couple of cars.

 
Seems like a real toss-up in terms of whether to go 1- or 2-stop, in a Cayman. Might be determined by track position, and whether you think passing on softs is really viable or if the people around you are going to be difficult to get around cleanly. Or, if you're a high door number in the lobby, and you think most of the drivers that qualify ahead of you are on the whole, faster than you-- maybe take a 1-stopper. I had good luck at Sardegna starting on softs, to gain as much track position as possible at the start, so I'm thinking 4S/5M/4S, unless the situation unfolds oddly.
Well, I think I messed that up. Qualified poorly, 14th, because I lost the draft (was afraid we were all too bunched up). Started on Softs, was just going to put in the 6S/7H laps and take what came to me, since I was in a relatively higher room (door #15).

Then was held up by almost 2 sec a lap by some swerving guy, and every time we touched (while I held my line... I wasn't even trying to overtake, but we tapped three times) I got the SR reduction shield... great. Insult to injury while he ruined my first stint. And after the pit stops, same guy pile-drives me off the track in T1, thankfully he conceded the spot back right away (cool) but his actions had already messed up my race. I had lost the pack I was in, and had to limp home to a 13th without much of a fight left to have. Lost DR, useless FIA round points, wasted hour.

May try again later, but the key point is the 6S/7H probably wasn't the best strategy in light of the situation: could have had clear air, and put in qualifying speed laps for 4S+4S then cruised home on good mediums, likely in a much faster time and without the track position problems ruining my race. I messed the strategy up.

EDIT: forgot to mention that the race was more or less really CLEAN, though, except for the one goof up mentioned above. Turn 1 was surprisingly civil... the kink at the shortcut was where most of the offs were, and those were mostly self-caused by the victims from what I saw. A little argy-bargy in the final sector, which is to be expected on GTS, but nothing shameless in my race, for those looking for a read on the event.
 
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Manufacturer's this afternoon was great. I was Door #16 in the lobby, so again I was a little nervous about my race prospects due to being near the bottom of the lobby DR wise. However, for once I was lucky in qualifying. I was part of the first group to get out of the pits, and after a little shuffling of cars dropping back for slipstream, it was an NSX ahead of me and a GT-R behind me. The NSX driver was quick so I didn't need to worry about catching up to him since I had a good gap, and the GT-R driver was much slower so they fell back and I didn't need to worry about being overtaken. My first flying lap in the tow was good for 4th place, despite going too deep into T1. On my second flying lap I was running purple sectors in S1 and S2, but I ended up not improving my qualifying time at all due to being slower in S3. The NSX in front got 2nd.

At race start, everyone (the top 10) actually make it through the first corner without incident. I played it safe and with P1 and P2 already making moves on each other it let P3 and me catch up to them. P1 and P2 are still side-by-side into T3 and we actually end up 2-by-2 into T4, eventually settling into a line after T6. From there, for me it wasn't too eventful for a bit- I was keeping up with the top 3 places and due to penalties for the guys behind a nice gap opened up to P5 where they were out of slipstream range. Despite getting bunched up to P3, I wanted to be patient with overtaking because in my practice races last evening, I found overtaking difficult and if I tried to do it on most corners I'd end up overdriving the car. I thought of the driving-a-little-more-conservatively-strategy as a tire-saving strategy. It paid off though. P3 got the dumbest penalty for bump-drafting P1 on lap 2, and I just made sure to keep up with the group, so I got P3 for free. Once I was past they ended up falling behind, leaving me free to swarm P2. I nabbed P2 into T1 of lap 5. At this point, P1 had built up a nice lead and was slowly building the gap, so I thought that was it. I held off P3 and the three of us all pitted at the end of lap 6. Turns out we were all on the same tire, RS, so I knew none of us would have a tire advantage over the other. Coming out of the pits I was P5, right behind P4, which meant I could use their slipstream. At the straight, they got a poor exit which let me pass them easily, while the driver I was fighting with ended up getting track limit penalties. And then, I see the former P1 got another 1 second penalty for bump drafting, meaning next lap around I inherited the lead after everyone else pit. I was able to hold them off for the next 4 laps, but they were faster than me and made their move into T1 on the final lap. However, I was right on their tail coming out of the final corner, and I crossed the line only 0.048s.

I got my largest points haul of the season so far, 184 points, and my DR is now almost 40,000, a level I never thought I was at before, so I'm definitely happy with the results today.

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In Oceania there are only two top split slots worth any points for manufacturers on weekdays, 4pm and 5:20pm. I could only enter 5:20pm as I have work (PD please move this timeslot back?).

Qualifying was a disaster. Slipstream is worth over 0.6 seconds per lap here. I had a two-lap run. First lap I was in a tow but the car in front got a penalty, hit the brakes in the middle of the long right hander and quit back to the pits, which left me without a tow for most of the lap, which I needed with the 4C.

Someone dropped into the gap in front of me for lap 2 but I got baulked and had to overtake a slower car off the race line which cost a few tenths. Started P9 with a 1:40.0 where I should have started near the front.

Anyway I was trying to make progress through the race when this happened


Slot 3 I decided I wasn't going to risk traffic issues and started P5 having set a 1:39.8 without a tow, which I thought was okay if not great. The person sitting in my draft for that lap immediately set a time 0.5 seconds faster.

Anyway the race was only worth 286 points and I finished P3. The only good thing that happened tonight was gaining DR, and somehow not disconnecting (had 16 disconnects so far this season and would like to avoid another one).

The contact penalties seemed to be on a hair trigger this race for sure. I got three SR reductions for less contact than that, when the guy in front of me swerved all around and caused the contact. It was weird. No time penalties though. The trigger for the contact seemed more sensitive than ever though. I think there are so many long defined 'curve' sections at Fuji that it makes it tougher than usual.
 
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