FIA Race Discussion [Archive]

[GTWolverine]

Somehow finished 12th in Manu. I say somehow, lots of people quit and one guy in a Supra ran out of fuel.

Your Porsches and Mercedeses were doing 17 laps on mediums, which I couldn't do in the GT-R. That coupled with the multi-apex corner being worse turning left than right means... well, waste of time, I guess.

Doesn't look great for me then. In practice I only got 13 laps on the Mediums in the Corvette before they were slower than fresh Hards. My pace appears good enough to potentially get a decent result, but that might cost me a few spots.

 

[stpatty]

I had no trouble at all running the 17 laps on M's in the sim I ran (in my 911 RSR), and only needed a splash of fuel with the change to required H's, if I remember correctly (though it may have been no fuel). Friend in a BMW needed more fuel and to do it a lap earlier, if I recall correctly, saving me some time in the pits. Though, the overlap between M/H tires might mean it's possible to undercut people if short-pitting with 2 or 3 laps to go, to get those H's up to temperature and then attacking on the last lap.

Porsche seems suited to the race, and wasn't too hard on the right side tires, compared to lefts, given the hairpin and first section is to the right, and the fast turn before S/F straight is also hard on the lefts. So was pretty even, compared to the wear when running in the other direction.

Just hoping for much better results than I had in the Gr2 race at Fuji...

Doesn't look great for me then. In practice I only got 13 laps on the Mediums in the Corvette before they were slower than fresh Hards. My pace appears good enough to potentially get a decent result, but that might cost me a few spots.

Left is the second placed Mercedes who was fighting fat the beginning after 17 laps, the right is me after 12 laps. My rears are better but the steering is non-existent (could probably have managed with the BB further forward)

gT ArE Is tOo fAsT KaZ PlEaSe nErF

 

[Pigems]

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Left is the second placed Mercedes who was fighting fat the beginning after 17 laps, the right is me after 12 laps. My rears are better but the steering is non-existent (could probably have managed with the BB further forward)

gT ArE Is tOo fAsT KaZ PlEaSe nErF

If you want the GTR nerfed, no problem, I’ll just pick it for the next stage.

 

[csmirnoff]

Was gunning for a top 5 spot when I had to slow up to save a little fuel. Led to the hoard of death to swoop in and treat my car like a bumper car. How about you just pile in behind me and run my over on the straight than crash myself and others while trying to get around me in the final section. Ended up not being another top 4 race, and maybe I'll run the final race later, but unlikely. When I see a team name in a driver's name tag, I kinda expect a certain extra level of professionalism from them. Maybe that National race was just too short.

I wouldn't say I've actually encountered dirty racers, and if you go back and watch many of the highlight videos here, you'll agree, it's not really dirty racing. Just bad racing. Just too easy to jump in a FIA event and compete.

If I'm not mistaking you for someone else, I think I raced you in the third slot Got up to P3 at the start then also started to be swallowed by the pack of one-stoppers while I was fuel saving. I think you made a nice move on me in the chicane and I tucked in on your slipstream for a while. I think you then made a mistake a few laps later. I'm not sure whether my no-stopper was a good idea, but I managed to recover most positions to finish P4 as everyone pitted, top 3 all one-stopped and ended a few seconds up to the road.

 

[Jwptexas]

I think I'm screwed this manufacturer race... I'm running low 1:32s on hard tires and low 1:32 on medium tires, lol! Not good! Sim race from yesterday think Total 28:05 just baffled I'm just as fast on hard as I am mediums makes no sense. Fastest lap during race on Mediums was 1:32.050 and fastest lap on hard was 1:32:150

15M/3H and out of fuel coasting into pit lane on lap 15

 

[vvise]

Forgot to mention from the weekend races. Qualifying is getting ridiculous.

 

[Adam Barber]

MANUFACTURERS

From practice I felt like the Ferrari should do well here given the track and the fuel multipliers. Qualifying was fine and managed an unspectacular lap to start in 11th place.

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• Adam Barber
• Jun 17, 2020

The start and things played into my favour as a good run into the multi apex left of turn 3 gave me a place to a Renault for 10th and a spinning audi another for 9th place. The Porsche in 3rd out braked themselves out of that turn and rejoined in an eventual 10th, promoting me yet again into 8th, so far so good.

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• Adam Barber
• Jun 17, 2020

From there I slowly fell back from the pack ahead and nothing really happened until lap 12 when an M6 ahead span on the exit of the hairpin costing the 4 positions as they recovered and leaving me in 7th. That same lap a viper in 3rd made fairly common error and went wide into the wall on the exit of the last corner giving me 6th position and leaving them in 10th now, ouch.

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• Adam Barber
• Jun 17, 2020

I ended up pitting lap 15, I could have gone an extra 2 laps but stopped early just to be sure for tyres. I had also been shifting at 75% which in the Ferrari was more than enough to not need to refuel at all.

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• Adam Barber
• Jun 17, 2020

Last 2 laps and I had a brief battle with a Jag who had stopped early and just managed to fend them off as they ran out on the line for a fairly impressive 6th in the end, Super GT would be proud. Happy with that result as I personally couldn't really do anything more to improve upon that result.

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• Adam Barber
• Jun 17, 2020

 

[The359]

I somehow feel very confident with the Aston Martin on conserving fuel and tires and keeping race pace, just seems to handle this track layout well.

 

[Razgriz2118]

Seems like DG Gardens II is a good track for the 911. Too bad after 20 laps of free practice yesterday I still couldn't find a good rhythm on the track which made me decide to skip this round. Sounds about right lol.

 

[Famine]

Perfectly mediocre race in the RX-Vision (boy that thing likes to slide the rear on the brakes) until two laps from the end when I encountered a gaggle of cars who were just smashing each other off the track - including a full-bore, max-chat ram from a Lexus RC F. Of course that got me involved, and I got tagged while ninth by an Aston smashing into a Toyota at the final chicane. Ended 11th, but not behind the Aston who bit turf at the middle chicane.

Chat was, naturally, full of homophobic abuse and threats afterwards... from the Aston

 

[thiagoturbao]

i'm so lucky - pole, mistake drop to 2nd, 1st disconnected + penalty + penalty = win

 

[Benay79]

Went again and this time qualified worse in 13th. First lap, about 4 cars fell victim to cold tires and another 2 cars picked up penalties and I found myself in 7th by the end of lap 1. Moved up another place to 6th and stayed there for about 10 laps. Made a small mistake and fell back to 7th. Thought I was going to get disconnected again half way through when everyone disappeared off my track for half a lap but luckily all went back to normal. Pitted end of lap 15. Last lap, 5th place binned it on the S’s so got 6th place. Happy with that considering my qualifying.

 

[Ashthebash]

Thought I'd share what wound me up yesterday in qualifying. No wonder I didn't calm down until half way through the race!

 

[stpatty]

Thought I'd share what wound me up yesterday in qualifying. No wonder I didn't calm down until half way through the race!

I had one of these at Dragon Trail Seaside reverse once. I'm on a flying lap coming down the pit straight as someone's coming out. I flash my lights all the way through the first corner and up to the chicane, nothing. We both go in, we both die.

Best bit is, I crossed the line with like 40 seconds left in the session, so they weren't even going to do a lap.

 

[ASH32]

Don't think I've come across that driver before @Ashthebash they sure need some leasons in awareness and respect for the other drivers.

 

[afc5150]

I really wish crossing the pit exit blend line would trigger a penalty for the offender. Everyone knows it's there, and that they aren't supposed to cross it, but very few comply. Just another example of the poor racing etiquette so prevalent in GT Sport these days.

 

[KosmoKazi]

I really wish crossing the pit exit blend line would trigger a penalty for the offender. Everyone knows it's there, and that they aren't supposed to cross it, but very few comply. Just another example of the poor racing etiquette so prevalent in GT Sport these days.

That seems to be an easy one to enforce, I'm puzzled why the penalty is automatic. Has happened to me before too, and was shocked it's not penalized. It's black and white!

 

[Famine]

i'm so lucky - pole, mistake drop to 2nd, 1st disconnected + penalty + penalty = win

You were in my race at 1520 UTC.

 

[Ashthebash]

Don't think I've come across that driver before @Ashthebash they sure need some leasons in awareness and respect for the other drivers.

I messaged him after the race and he apologised saying he had no idea I was behind him. Maybe a penalty for blue flags would help - but with the current system it would probably have given it to me!

 

[HaydenFan69]

If I'm not mistaking you for someone else, I think I raced you in the third slot Got up to P3 at the start then also started to be swallowed by the pack of one-stoppers while I was fuel saving. I think you made a nice move on me in the chicane and I tucked in on your slipstream for a while. I think you then made a mistake a few laps later. I'm not sure whether my no-stopper was a good idea, but I managed to recover most positions to finish P4 as everyone pitted, top 3 all one-stopped and ended a few seconds up to the road.

Name looks familiar. I was the one in the Super GT replica Lexus livery. I remember someone backing out on my brave lunge (could’ve been you very smartly). Didn’t save the replay, but was a very good race. I’d say the top 10 was very good. I just goofed and missed about a half a lap of fuel in the pit, which is what led to the hoard.

I for one would love to see more Super GT races in the Nations Cup. Last two goes for the cars has been at some realitivly trash circuits (Barcelona & Fuji), but still put on some decent racing.

 

[barak181]

Debating on whether I should run the Manu's tonight - which usually is a pretty good sign that I shouldn't. But I'm determined to tame the RX-V and get some decent speed out of it. DTG is usually a good track for me, even in reverse. I dunno, I have a couple of hours to figure it out.

 

[The359]

Forgot to mention from the weekend races. Qualifying is getting ridiculous.

Once stopping just to make sure I didn't ram into the parking lot, I said eff this and just went with it. Sitting there would just likely ruin your first sector anyway. This is exactly what I predicted would happen when they changed the qualifying format.

 

[Tidgney]

No practice, a dangerous chicken, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[MIE1992]

Is there gonna be any fuel-saving strategy for the Gr.3 race at Gardens tonight?

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

Yes that’s more like it! Hate this track too, never usually race on it, and in reverse is even worse

Started 8th and had dropped to 9th by the time we got to the left handers. I must have been braver on the cold tires than everyone else and amazingly went from 9th to 3rd at the hairpin!! Went down the inside and the others were being too cautious around the outside! Think someone had stopped too suddenly and the others all bumped into the back of each other. Stayed in 3rd for a few laps but couldn’t keep a Renault behind me. Stayed 4th for the rest of the race. Maybe could have got 3rd as I put 1 lap too much petrol in when I stopped for tires And only finished 0.3 seconds behind 3rd!!

 

[barak181]

Is there gonna be any fuel-saving strategy for the Gr.3 race at Gardens tonight?

Yes. Short-shift and try not to refuel. In the RX-V, I shift around 75% and do fine with fuel.

That said, I'm capable of decent lap times in practice. Problem is I'm just as likely to bin it as put in a fast lap. Not high expectations this race.

 

[wedjim]

See how it goes, hopefully better than Fuji. Went from Q2 into the lead with a great start, then from the lead down to 7th in turn 1 after getting banged on by 2nd and 3rd. Maybe they wanted to win more? Ended up 19th after some pinball action. Made it worse by getting angry and driving that way, got myself some nasty messages for it. I thought after getting punted 5 times anything goes? Apparently not.
Ran it again with nothing to lose and qualified 7th, with a clean start got up into 5th. On my pit I changed tires by mistake and came out 14th. Battled with drivers on older tires who blocked and banged, refusing to let me pass. Then they went in the pits. I finished 7th 1 second behind 6th. My tire swap appears to have cost me a possible 5th. Done.

Tonight I like DT II reverse, feels good in the Corvette, high 1.31’’s and 15 laps on a tank of fuel without saving anything. Basically tires still feel decent at that point, but no fuel left. Hoping to save a lap of fuel and pit a lap later. Set my fastest lap on lap 11 with mediums and light fuel load. We’ll see.

 

[RJBMonkey]

Disconnected whilst in 8th position on lap15!! 👍 🤬

 

[barak181]

Maybe I should go into races with low expectations more often. It's more enjoyable that way.

I put in an okay qualy time and start P10, running a 3H/15M fuel-saving strategy. Then I set out to prove my pre-race expectations right and almost take out P9 in T1 when he brakes early. I slide to the inside to miss him and end up doing a barge pass. Then I somehow completely biff it going into the 4-apex turn and try not to annihilate everyone as I careen around it. I finally get it back on track with minimal contact and let several people by just in time to forget that dirty tires are thing and slide off the right hander at the top of the hill to complete my journey to the back of the field.

Most of the field didn't fuel save, so I made up several positions when people were in the pits refueling. One guy in an Alpha even did a 2-stopper. It seemed to work for him though, he overtook me on the final lap. Anyway, it was a much cleaner race than I was expecting. Several people did bin themselves, giving me a few more positions. The handful of times I did engage people, it was all very clean. One guy was even smart enough to concede the entrance to the chicane to me because I had the inside. I forgot to thank him afterwards.

Anyway, finished P8. I'm fine with that, I don't need to try another run. After the disastrous first lap, it went much better than expected. I had a couple lap times that were good for me and several more that were slow - but clean, in control and not in danger of losing it. I still have a long way to go in learning the RX-V but it's getting there, I think.

 

[KosmoKazi]

FIA Rd 15 - Manufacturers Series

Needed that one! After some bad breaks the last week, and a couple of real forgettable attempts at the Fuji Nations Cup race in Gr2 cars, enjoyed a really fun, clean, one-and-done Gr3 race at Dragon Trail Gardens.

Thankful to see my name slot in at #14 as the lobby match screen came up. Fun to see fellow GT Planet friend @Keith2324 line up with me... though he probably noticed I immediately binned it on the qualifying outlap in 'that section'.

Qualified 11th, finished 5th, after a straight-forward run from green to checkers. Just tried to stay on the track, keep pressure on the place in front of me, and race clean without pressing the matters. 8th would give me useful FIA season points, so that was the base target.

Everything went according to Hoyle, with my Porsche doing all the hard work... great on the hairpin, stable in the first sector, and didn't use any more fuel that what I started the race with, despite no special efforts to minimize it. Only had to make one or two real 'passes' but also benefitted from a few 'offs', by guys I was racing with and also a couple in front of me.

Worked my way up to 2nd by the penultimate lap, then ducked in only for the required Hards, and returned for what was left of the last lap without any pressure to coast home in 5th place. Nice DR bump and what are likely to 'count' FIA season points.

And... what a beautiful track! I really love that place.

Q11 / R5 / #14