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Could've had a good Manufacturer result but some Canadian decided to divebomb me and a Corvette and as I'm turning I run into him, giving me a 2 second penalty, and his response after the race was "lol we," so gonna go again since without slipstream I was able to qualify 4th and I felt good about the race. First though, Nations, let's see how this understeering monster does.

Edit: Oh God why am I in a room full of A+ and S drivers it's a 267 point race, that's 30 points higher than any room I've been in. WHY DOES EVERYONE DO NATIONS ONLY.

Edit 2: Lol, qualified 19th out of 20th, door #20. Guess it's good to have no expectations? Too bad it's going to be a waste of a race since unless everyone wipes themselves out I'm not going to get any meaningful points.
 
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Anyone else feel like Spa surface was “dirty” for the race tonight? Definitely seemed like grip was down during race.
Yes, in the practice rooms I was in last night, the cars felt like they were on rails. I checked the race settings to make sure the host had the off-track grip set to "Real", and they had, so I'm not sure why there was so much more grip in public lobbies than there was in the actual races.
 
Never doing that again.

Logged on with 90 seconds to go, no warm up or dialling in and too much beer in the system.

Long and short of it

Qualified 1s slower than I can do in clean air, binned it at T1, binned it again after taking 17th and rage quit. A guy I'd been smashing in lobbies was running nicely in 2nd place and I haven't binned it at Spa in nearly 400 miles of practice

Lesson learned

Never doing it again
 
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16:00 EDT Nations Cup: Nürburgring GP

NOPE! I tried to tame the Zonda R but it was just not happening. I could not get a clean lap in to save my life....

17:20 EDT Manufacturer Series: Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps

I have been looking forward to this race. I love Spa no matter how I do on it.

I get to the paddock with 15 on the door. When qualifying starts, I jet out and I am first on the track. I don't like qualifying with traffic because you never know how someone else is going to drive. I did see some familiar names on the board. @x5abotagex86 was in my race also! So I get out and my flying lap puts me in 2nd for the time being. I come in for fresh hards and then try to catch a slipstream. By now I am down to 7th. My new flying lap puts me into 4th and .910 behind pole.

This race had a mix of cars. There were 4 Cayman GT4, 2 Mustangs, 2 Atenza's (including @x5abotagex86), and a Lancer (on pole), my SLS (4th), Scirocco (6th), RCZ, 650S, Viper, Corvette, GT-R, V8 Vantage, Toyota 86, RC-F, and a Hyundai.

On lap 1 turn 1 (La Source), the Cayman in 3rd looses grip and powers right into the wall. The Atenza in 2nd slipstreams by P1 Lancer on the Kemmel Straight but picked up a .5 penalty from Radillion. We are 2.5 seconds ahead of 4th by Les Combes. We are picking up the pace and not trying to kill each other for the lead.

Lap 2 and we are within 1 second of each other. The Atenza serves his penalty and the Lancers goes to the left side. As we enter Les Combes again, I switch to the right leaving the Atenza in the middle. We almost go 3 wide into it but I back out hoping they crash each other out. The Lancer takes P1 as he goes on the outside for the right hander. P1 and P2 bump a little but keep it clean and cordial and the Lancer keeps P1. By now, the Scirocco is P4 and somehow slowly gaining on us but still not a threat. The Lancer goes wide at Pouhon and the Atenza and I squeeze by with the Lancer now on my tail.

On lap 3, the Lancer gets by me as I let off to not hit the Atenza in turn 16 (Courbe Paul Frère). The Lancer picks up a questionable 1 second penalty on turn 18. From my perspective, it looked like the Atenza moved to the right almost forcing the Lancer off track and tapped the Lancers left door. (after further review, he didn't move right, he just didn't start to turn left...). I don't know if was intentional but it sure looked like it. I for sure just knew that the race was mine figuring a revenge punt was coming. Thankfully, that did not happen. The Lancer served his penalty on lap 4 and kept trailing us.

I took the lead on lap 5 and the Atenza and I head into Eau Rouge with me on the right. I was willing to play chicken and he blinked first giving me the lead. I picked up a track limit penalty of .5 seconds that I served on lap 6. The Atenza and I played chicken again on lap 6 at Eau Rouge with me on the left side this time. He backed out again but I guess he knew he would catch me when I served the penalty. He and the Lancer pass me and we are at it again with the Lancer in P1 and I am in P3. By now, the scirocco is right behind me. The Atenza goes wide at Pouhon this time and falls to 4th.

From lap 7 on, it was just me and the Lancer. I could never catch him but stayed within 1.2 seconds of him until lap 10 when I lost a little time trying to press. I still finish 2nd, 1.661 behind P1 with P3 7.364 behind me.

All in all, quite an enjoyable and intense race and the Lancer and Atenza were clean with me.
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And the best part....my highest total of the season so far!
See you out on the track!
 
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These races just keep getting better! Entered the first slot tonight and got into a lobby with @Winnie847, @Jwptexas, @GTWolverine among other really great drivers. Qualifying went well and I just managed a 3rd place start ahead of Winnie by 0.001s. REVenginPL started on pole by half a second and the last time I saw them was lap 1. Seriously quick pace in the Corvette and they walked away with 1st easily.

The race itself was full of close and respectful racing. For the first 5 laps we had a 4-way battle between myself, Winnie in the Atenza, an Alfa, and an RCZ. Unfortunately the latter two got savagely smacked with PD's stupid penalty system for minor bumps and so the last half of the race was an M4 vs. Atenza battle (hello @Famine).

Building up to one of the greatest last lap battles I've ever had.



Ending in an insane photo finish with our cars split by only 0.021s

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Full race footage here.

Also the RCZ is still a Saturn V rocket
 
@jimihemmy Well done! Glad to join ya!

Started P11 I think, got a track limit Penalty lap 2, ended up 14th most the race, ok drive.

Followed a Lexus the whole time, and passed around lap 8, with some back n fourth here and there.

P12 slipped up on last lap and when I caught up he went off when I creeped up, then passed someone at line who was outta gas:)

So, mediocre race, landing p10 from luck mostly

Well done!

@Granadier - great lap! Much entertainment, good battle
 
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FIA 2020 Season Rounds 16

Nations Race:

So was this how Pagani was started? "Hey, you know, Lamborghinis aren’t crap now, it's not like the old days!"... Mr. Pagani: "I've got an idea!"

What a terrible car to drive, and even if it's not, it sure doesn't suit me. Never drove a car with both oversteer and understeer at the same time. Diabolical, random throttle position generator for a gas pedal, lazy brakes under the left one. Trouble turning in low speed corners? Don't worry, you have all day to think about it while the car decelerates from twice the normal braking distance.

Anyway, Qualified 18th, after two-stopping (7S/2M/6S) I got bottled up behind a couple of guys who were not making their mothers proud, stayed away from it, but before it was over, had ruined my strategy by being held up behind one of them who was really struggling on his tires. So wasted a race, it was stressful, and finished 14th after a commendable pass on the last lap. Note: it was really hard to pass in this race, even here, where I was nearly 2s a lap faster than the guy, it took me over 3 laps to get around, and that was a monumental effort.



With #14, -500 DR and throwaway FIA points, not to mention the 1.5M plus I spent on the Pagani. Which is now worth 1/3 of that... oh well.

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Manufacturers Race:

Was more excited about the Spa race, especially after putting in what seemed like some good practice laps in the low 2:30's and even a couple of 2:29's in my Cayman. Was glad to see fellow GTP guys @Keith2324 and @mobilmasher in my lobby... especially since if I could stay with them in qualifying it would be great to have a drafting partner or two.

But I messed up the out lap on the Qualifying session, it was a mess, including a penalty. So started 11th. Stuck to the strategy of just keeping the pressure on whomever was in front of me, but not pressing the matter to force a pass, but the Cayman (at least in my hands) was just so slow from the bus stop chicane to Les Combes. I could reel people back in, until I was on their bumper at Blanchmont, but then it would start all over again.



Had a fun race, anyway, after clearing one idiot who wrecked @mobilmasher's race in front of me, on Lap 1. The rest of the race, I watched as the two places ahead of me were nip and tuck every lap, prepared in case they would take each other out, to move ahead, but they were both clean and it never happened. I eventually got to the bumper of the one fellow, but he was solid and didn't make any costly mistakes. We both got by two others who did, on the last lap, saving my race from a DR perspective, but an 8th place finish didn't amount to keeper points from this round.

EDIT/UPDATED: Re-ran it... nothing to lose and I was really comfortable in the Cayman at Spa, so figured why not. Good clean race... just did my own thing: 8th again! Had 7th but had to concede it to another guy who I was racing with in the first try, coincidentally, who had been taken out ahead of me, and was definitely faster on the last lap in a McLaren 650... he earned the pass by nailing the run from La Source up Kemmel, so I was toast. But this race was in a faster room, so I got useful FIA points and another 500 or so DR, to make the day productive after all.

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Second attempt at Nations. I started slightly higher than I did last time, at 14th. I used the same pit strategy as before, so logically, I finished slightly higher as well. Although, I almost got rammed off the track AGAIN by an over-zealous divebomber on the first lap at same spot in my previous race, but fortunately they missed me. Whew...

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@afc5150 Congrats on the podium! I was briefly behind you on lap 8. :)

Next weekend, I will switch back to Manufacturers, which will be my first race in the Gr. 3 Huracan. Hopefully, Fuji will be a good course for it.
 
I'm not exactly sure how I did it, but I finished on the podium in 3rd at Nurburgring GP for a season-high 155 points!

Q8 and the strategy was a simple 7S, 1M, 7S with fuel on the first stop only.

Clean the whole race except for everyone getting their elbows out in T1 but that was about it for me. Good battles all around in a great lobby with a lot of familiar names. None dirty like "Mr. Le Sarthe".

Confident enough now to re-try Spa in Manufacturer.

-edit - @Master Weasel I saw you back there, I was being extra careful in the room full of people I know on here lol
 
Feeling a bit tired now so I don't think I'll give Manufacturer's another go, while 170 points doesn't increase my score at all it's still keeper points for me since it's my 5th highest score, and unlike Nations I plan on competing in the future rounds. Might give Nations another go though since I'm not planning on doing any of the rest of the races for this Stage. We'll see what my lazy bum decides to do.
 
When GTS is good, it’s good.

The Jag has some legs around Spa (although I might be the only Jag driver in NA who thinks so since I didn’t see any of my S-rated colleagues on the leaderboard), and I was putting down high 28s in FP and consistent mid 30s in lobbies, so I had a really good feeling about racing tonight.

I took the pole with a 2:29.4xx with P2 about .010 behind me and then a half second gap to the field. I hoped P2 was smart enough to let us a build a gap, and he did. We went our 7-8 seconds in the first two laps, and swapped spots for the next 6 laps. I had much more speed from Stavelot through Les Combes, and his Porsche was much better from Les Combes to Stavelot.

I ended up missing my turn in point a little on L8 at Radillion and in the draft couldn’t save it, and took a limits pen. That was it for us...he was able to break the draft on L9 and won comfortably.

Still though...great, great fun, and I think these points will be in the top 3 for me.

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DR is up to 38.9k. Hopefully, I’ll break into the 40s at Alsace.
 
Wow, qualifying makes a huge difference. This time after setting a somewhat disappointing "banker" lap, I restarted my outlap to see if I could get another slipstream, and wound up behind the same car for both of my runs. I completely surprised myself by putting the car 3rd on the grid on my final flying lap. I was still in 3rd when we came to Les Combes for the first time, and...


After that, I maintained the lead for the rest of the race until Lap 10, when I cut Eau Rouge/Radillion after trying to fend off the polesitting Alfa who recovered from that opening lap incident and caught me after I fought too hard with another Cayman. Since I already had a 0.5s penalty (which would be rounded up to 1s once I crossed the finish line), I let the Alfa go into Bruxelles to avoid losing even more time to the other cars behind. In the end, I let my first "legit" road course Manufacturer's win slip through my fingers, but I still got my best ever points score with this current points system with 233 points for 2nd place, and I finally got more than 200 points for a race (after getting exactly 200 at DT Gardens Reverse).
 
Man, no one is doing this Nations race tonight, I decided to hop on since I had nothing to lose with my previous score and got placed in another lobby that was majority A+/S ranked. Turismo-Lester was in my room, which goes to show how massive of a DR range there was. Qualified better and got 15th again, nothing to write home about. Ended up losing around 500 DR today but I'm still at 99 SR and above 45,000 DR so I'm fine with that. Targeting a better points haul in Manufacturer's next round, I feel like the Cayman will do well at Alsace and it's one of those tracks that works well with me. Meanwhile, I'm debating if I should attempt the next round of Nations. Rain seems like a recipe for chaos....
 
Had an interesting night of racing. At Nurg GP in the 800ho Snowmobile, aka, Zonda...Qualified 3rd, kind of surprised since I only put in about 30 minutes practice. Car feels like it needs a 1/2 hour to rotate in every turn, but watching Kie use the next lower gear to force it, worked well. At the start the guys in back with nothing to lose plowed into turn 1, about 5 drivers got penalties, bringing me back up to 4th. During that battle the other driver decided I didn’t need any track as we exited the hairpin side by side and pushed me into the gravel. I spent the rest of the race climbing back up, only to put it in the grass on my own on mediums, finished 9th. 105 pts.

At Spa in my Corvette I ran a decent lap of 2.29:86 with a draft, but spent too much time trying not to tap the draftee. Second timed lap I passed him and took the pole with a faster 2.29:48 with no draft, able to push harder thru the infields. First lap on cold tires I clip the chicane heading on the back straight, .5 penalty. To make it worse I get a tap at the final chicane from 3rd, pushing me Into the leader, adding another 1 seconds for a total of 1.5 Seconds heading onto the straight. This drops me to 5th, but I pass and gain 4th within a few corners. I fought and fought and fought, gaining on the Porsche in the lead a little each lap. Setting fastest lap and running 7 laps in the low 2.30’s and 2.29’s back to back, I catch the leader down the main straight on the final lap and he knows I did. Moving inside to prevent my attempt, I am going far faster with draft and pass around the outside into the chicane, he brakes late and hits my passenger door, moving my car off the line and retakes the lead, suddenly a 2.0 second penalty lights up above his roof. I regain my composure and know all I need is to finish with 2 seconds FTW.
Afterwards he was mad at me, saying I gave him a penalty and I was a dirty driver... I did feel a little bad about it, but I also know if he did not hit my door he would have lived to fight out the lap. I’ll take the pole and the win. Only 176 or so points in this A/S lobby.
 
These races just keep getting better! Entered the first slot tonight and got into a lobby with @Winnie847, @Jwptexas, @GTWolverine among other really great drivers. Qualifying went well and I just managed a 3rd place start ahead of Winnie by 0.001s. REVenginPL started on pole by half a second and the last time I saw them was lap 1. Seriously quick pace in the Corvette and they walked away with 1st easily.

The race itself was full of close and respectful racing. For the first 5 laps we had a 4-way battle between myself, Winnie in the Atenza, an Alfa, and an RCZ. Unfortunately the latter two got savagely smacked with PD's stupid penalty system for minor bumps and so the last half of the race was an M4 vs. Atenza battle (hello @Famine).

Building up to one of the greatest last lap battles I've ever had.



Ending in an insane photo finish with our cars split by only 0.021s

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Full race footage here.

Also the RCZ is still a Saturn V rocket

That was an epic battle! Awesome. What a great look at how well the BoP is between those two when in good hands. So close to a track limits penalty in T11. Amazing how close you were around the whole track. Congrats.

Wow, qualifying makes a huge difference. This time after setting a somewhat disappointing "banker" lap, I restarted my outlap to see if I could get another slipstream, and wound up behind the same car for both of my runs. I completely surprised myself by putting the car 3rd on the grid on my final flying lap. I was still in 3rd when we came to Les Combes for the first time, and...


After that, I maintained the lead for the rest of the race until Lap 10, when I cut Eau Rouge/Radillion after trying to fend off the polesitting Alfa who recovered from that opening lap incident and caught me after I fought too hard with another Cayman. Since I already had a 0.5s penalty (which would be rounded up to 1s once I crossed the finish line), I let the Alfa go into Bruxelles to avoid losing even more time to the other cars behind. In the end, I let my first "legit" road course Manufacturer's win slip through my fingers, but I still got my best ever points score with this current points system with 233 points for 2nd place, and I finally got more than 200 points for a race (after getting exactly 200 at DT Gardens Reverse).


Qualifying really made a huge difference. I never could get a tow in either race’s qualifying session, and in the Cayman it was critical. Tried to set up for a tow behind a Vette in the second race, but some fool binned it and stayed parked on the apex afterward at Stavelot, so I lost contact with the American muscle and was left to push my own air for my remaining hot lap. Track position was reall key during the race— once you started ahead of someone it was relatively easy to build a gap, and keep ahead of someone. Spa is like that.


When GTS is good, it’s good.

The Jag has some legs around Spa (although I might be the only Jag driver in NA who thinks so since I didn’t see any of my S-rated colleagues on the leaderboard), and I was putting down high 28s in FP and consistent mid 30s in lobbies, so I had a really good feeling about racing tonight.

I took the pole with a 2:29.4xx with P2 about .010 behind me and then a half second gap to the field. I hoped P2 was smart enough to let us a build a gap, and he did. We went our 7-8 seconds in the first two laps, and swapped spots for the next 6 laps. I had much more speed from Stavelot through Les Combes, and his Porsche was much better from Les Combes to Stavelot.

I ended up missing my turn in point a little on L8 at Radillion and in the draft couldn’t save it, and took a limits pen. That was it for us...he was able to break the draft on L9 and won comfortably.

Still though...great, great fun, and I think these points will be in the top 3 for me.

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DR is up to 38.9k. Hopefully, I’ll break into the 40s at Alsace.

Had a good row with a Jag in each of my Spa races tonight in my Porsche. It was the same: he’d get me from chicane to Les Combes, I’d pull him from there until we’d exit the chicane again. Like clockwork. Both of us hitting our marks and ratcheting our lap times down each lap. Fun to see how the balance played out on this track, which has a bit of everything.
 
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Just finished the final slot for Manufacturers.

I didn't use the slipstream during qualifying, and I was holding down pole position until the last minute. Got beat by a Scirocco by a couple of tenths...🤬


For the first 5 laps, I was on the Scirocco's butt until I got a .5s penalty for exiting too wide at Campus.🤬 This was bad news for me as a Cayman was following the the Scirocco and I as well. lol So I take the penalty and the Cayman does a beautiful job out braking me into Les Combs. :bowdown: From here on out, I was stuck in 3rd place with another Scirocco bump drafting me on the final 3 laps. I friended the guy and he said he bump drafted me because he couldn't keep up in the corners. How refreshing is that?! I need to buy him a beer. The rest of the field was not a factor, as they were busy fighting themselves (lots of blaming in the post race chat. lol).


I'm happy with this result. Even more so since I forgot how to read a clock on Wednesday, which caused me to miss that Manufacturers race.:dunce:
 
I was skeptical about the new BOP, but last night at Spa I was in a 4 way battle throughout the whole race and we all had different drivetrains (BMW, WRX, Scirocco and Citroen). Very well balanced across the whole lap, of course some cars are stronger in some parts of the track than others, but none of us could pull away significantly from the others. Dunno if they lucked out, but I'm hoping we've finally found the magic balance for Gr.4 :lol:

The Zonda doesn't sound as good as I remembered from GT5/6. Also this track really doesn't suit it - too many stop start corners. Something like Tokyo would've suited this car perfectly.

Also I just realized that Round 18 Nations is at Streets of Willow and Round 19 Manu is at Red Bull Short. Props to PD for throwing us so many curveballs this season :D
 
Did you check the weather forecast for Tuesday’s race at Spa? Things might get...messy, so to speak. :P

Yep, that I noticed. We've had wet races before though so it's not quite as unexpected. Apart from the Daily race with NSX at SoW, I can't remember ever racing there online. Same with Red Bull Short.

Imagine if next season we will have Northern Isle, BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile :lol:
 
Yep, that I noticed. We've had wet races before though so it's not quite as unexpected. Apart from the Daily race with NSX at SoW, I can't remember ever racing there online. Same with Red Bull Short.

Imagine if next season we will have Northern Isle, BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile :lol:
Horse thief mile would be epic. I am already predicting full carnage at streets. And plenty of it at spa as well.
 
Yep, that I noticed. We've had wet races before though so it's not quite as unexpected. Apart from the Daily race with NSX at SoW, I can't remember ever racing there online. Same with Red Bull Short.

Imagine if next season we will have Northern Isle, BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile :lol:

Don’t forget Kyoto Miyabi. XD

The mayhem would be legendary. Running Gr.1 at Northern Isle would make people so dizzy they’ll end up binning it into the wall. Willow Streets and Horse Thief would probably be punters’ delight (with a side order of corner cutting for Streets). BB Turn 1 is just Crash Central with Turn 3 also collecting its fair share of incidents.
 
Yep, that I noticed. We've had wet races before though so it's not quite as unexpected. Apart from the Daily race with NSX at SoW, I can't remember ever racing there online. Same with Red Bull Short.

Imagine if next season we will have Northern Isle, BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile :lol:

I doubt they’ll ever use HTM, it has some pretty glitchy starts for some reason. :lol:

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Yes, in the practice rooms I was in last night, the cars felt like they were on rails. I checked the race settings to make sure the host had the off-track grip set to "Real", and they had, so I'm not sure why there was so much more grip in public lobbies than there was in the actual races.
I have noticed this from time to time as well...thought I was just crazy...but I have noticed it as well.
 
Yep, that I noticed. We've had wet races before though so it's not quite as unexpected. Apart from the Daily race with NSX at SoW, I can't remember ever racing there online. Same with Red Bull Short.

Imagine if next season we will have Northern Isle, BB Raceway and Horse Thief Mile :lol:
I remember BB Raceway being used in an FIA race once, and it's actually quite fun in the Gr. 3 cars. Northern Isle has never been used in an FIA race, but I'd love to see it, especially with pit stops. Apparently Gr. 4 has an oval BoP, so I don't know why we've never seen them used at ovals before. Northern Isle hasn't even been used in a Daily in well over a year, and even though it has a pit lane, it's never been used for a Race C.

I'm not sure if Horse Thief Mile has ever been used for anything, but I'm not a fan of Willow Springs in general, so if it came up at some point I probably wouldn't have paid attention anyway.
 
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