Gran Turismo 7 1.60 Update Now Available

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I don't think that's quite fair. I'd say there's only two cars this year that we don't know the reasoning for, the Unimog and Kangoo. Everything else makes 100% logical sense based on what we know:

  • 812, C5, Z4, Vantage - sports cars have always been a core GT segment
  • Carry - kei cars have always been a core GT segment (and post-2000s ones are underrepresented)
  • Civic, 205 - hot hatches are a core GT segment as well
  • C-HR, CX-30, CR-V, 2008 - Kaz is on record in 2023 as saying GT needs to add SUVs to represent what people are driving in real life
  • Ioniq - You'll note this is in basically every generalist road car game, Hyundai are marketing this into every game they can
  • F3500 - fills an as-yet unrepresented formula car gap in the roster.
There's absolutely logic there, it's just not the logic some people want them to follow.
Indeed. Some of the data you bring up, it does make logical sense to include the Unimog and Kangoo. The livery editor is one excuse to bring those vehicles to the game. A popular long life spanning off-road truck and a popular recreational & work minivan in Europe, I see plenty here in Australia and popular in Japan. I still believe PD have the data to see how people utilise all vehicles in Lobby role play with friends and adding those two vehicles makes sense.
 
Those two have a pretty sufficient reason to be there as well, with the Unimog being the historical leader in a particular vehicle segment much like the Samba Bus, and the Kangoo being a Japanese cultural icon. For the same reason, I wouldn't be surprised if we ever saw a Dodge van arriving to the franchise.
I'd love to race a Ford Freestar and a Dodge Grand Caravan just for laughs. That'd be very unlikely racers, specifically the first one because my parents had one from 2006 to 2017. (41 years old and still Mama's Boy who likes cute kitty car designs and cats.)
 
A quick question for you guys, does Kaz usually use the sentence "Big update is coming next week" when a track is added? I do remember him saying this 1 or 2 times, but do he use it everytime?
Do you think there is a chance a track is coming (or a new "big" feature)?
 
A quick question for you guys, does Kaz usually use the sentence "Big update is coming next week" when a track is added? I do remember him saying this 1 or 2 times, but do he use it everytime?
Do you think there is a chance a track is coming (or a new "big" feature)?
I think last time we had a track added there were no post from him at all because the update was announced with fanfares on World Tour event. The one before was indeed called "big" by him (Spec II update). Grand Valley update also "big". Worth noting both of those updates had much more than what a regular update brings even besides a track. Road Atlanta update was not called big, but was called "25th anniversary update" in his tweet. Watkins Glen update wasn't called big by him either and there were no different wording in that tweet at all, just a regular "Update is coming next week". Road Atlanta and Watkins Glen, unlike other two, didn't have more features added. So it seems like his "big update" refers more to new features rather than just a track. But at the same time, first two tracks came early in game's lifespan, so maybe a simple track update will also be considered "big" now. Or there's also a possibility they are specifically aiming at having more stuff added when there's a track in an update, so maybe every future track update (if there will be any) will also have additional features.
 
Or there's also a possibility they are specifically aiming at having more stuff added when there's a track in an update, so maybe every future track update (if there will be any) will also have additional features.
This checks out considering Eiger dropped with 6 cars and a physics update, Lake Louise with 7 cars and all the Spec II content, Grand Valley with VR2 support and the introduction of Sophy, etc.
Now I'm really hoping the next update is the big one we've been waiting for, because an entire year with no new track is brutal.
 
I'd love to race a Ford Freestar and a Dodge Grand Caravan just for laughs. That'd be very unlikely racers, specifically the first one because my parents had one from 2006 to 2017. (41 years old and still Mama's Boy who likes cute kitty car designs and cats.)
The Dodge Caravan Turbo would be quite the addition. Or a Pacifica with the widebody/Demon swap the internet is photoshopping left and right.
A quick question for you guys, does Kaz usually use the sentence "Big update is coming next week" when a track is added? I do remember him saying this 1 or 2 times, but do he use it everytime?
Do you think there is a chance a track is coming (or a new "big" feature)?
I think generally he saves "Big update" for significant improvements but have definitely seen a new track added with that verbage. So there's hope...
 
This checks out considering Eiger dropped with 6 cars and a physics update, Lake Louise with 7 cars and all the Spec II content, Grand Valley with VR2 support and the introduction of Sophy, etc.
Now I'm really hoping the next update is the big one we've been waiting for, because an entire year with no new track is brutal.
I'm starting to believe new track is not on the cards for future updates anymore. If we don't see anything this summer then track support is 100% over. It's been too long, surely at least one should be ready by now.
 
still dont get the want for rally cars in this game when rally is dogwater in GT7
Not having point to point is an issue, and having to race "rallycross" style is not my cup of tea. However, the off road physics are not all that bad. Tons of fun to be had. I have been having a blast testing out anything and everything the game will allow dirt/snow tires on. Time trials on the dirt tracks, especially are epic fun. I really don't get the utter hate for the rally tracks in GT7.
 
I'm starting to believe new track is not on the cards for future updates anymore. If we don't see anything this summer then track support is 100% over. It's been too long, surely at least one should be ready by now.
If I was in charge, having to maintain GT7 while saving stuff for an incoming GT8, that's what I would do.

Tracks take too much time to create if you are aiming to add exclusive new ones to the next game, I might save them all. As for cars, I would just deliver fewer and less iconic ones as I'ld need them to promote the next game.
 
We all kind of dimsissed it at the time, but the longer the track drought extends, the more I do start to wonder if My First GT's GT7 promo having exact track environment/layout counts (when for cars it just said a vague "500+") was PD's way of saying "and that's it, no more are coming, because otherwise we'd have to update this video every time".
 
The SUV is the least car culture vehicle ever conceived. It is the anti-car culture vehicle. The compact SUV is the vehicle of people who need a car, but hate cars.
I have a huge dislike for SUVs but i can't deny they are the most popular daily drivers.Moms,dads,kids taking their parents cars,adults in general especially in the US have tons of them.
And then there are the smaller crossovers in europe and other regions also pretty popular.
I much prefer the popular cars of 20 years ago but GT isn't making the wrong choice for adding those cars.
I do think we need more racing machines and other sport vehicles but adding SUVs isn't wrong.
 
I have a huge dislike for SUVs but i can't deny they are the most popular daily drivers.Moms,dads,kids taking their parents cars,adults in general especially in the US have tons of them.
And then there are the smaller crossovers in europe and other regions also pretty popular.
I much prefer the popular cars of 20 years ago but GT isn't making the wrong choice for adding those cars.
I do think we need more racing machines and other sport vehicles but adding SUVs isn't wrong.
It is wrong. They aren't fun. They aren't in any way adding to the game. They're advertisements from the car companies, and I get that necessity, but give them a purpose beyond marketing.

So, simple solution, make them fun. Put them on the engine swap list. Do something.

They're popular road vehicles because you sit higher. That's all. They're worse in every possible way compared to an estate car/wagon. People love minivans too, I don't more of them either.

As it stands, because of my experience with these cars in the game, I don't even want to consider owning one. Is that good advertising?
 
I'd love to race a Ford Freestar and a Dodge Grand Caravan just for laughs. That'd be very unlikely racers, specifically the first one because my parents had one from 2006 to 2017. (41 years old and still Mama's Boy who likes cute kitty car designs and cats.)
I'd prefer a Windstar over a Freestar, mainly because it's a pet peeve of mine when something is given a new name while changing very little about it. Which is something that Ford's marketing department absolutely loved doing in the 2000s.
 
Might not have been too much crying if we got these.

Mazda CX-3
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Ford Puma
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Hyundai Kona N
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Toyota Corolla Cross GR
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Jeep Renegade
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Anyway, I blame people that haven’t been buying manual transmission cars. Takes a lot of fun out of driving when many cars have watered down transmissions er, mechanisms that transfer power to the drive wheels.
I get everything about manufacturing cost, about traffic, about physical capabilities where having to use three pedals are not ideal for the operator, about not being able to text while driving because the operator would be too busy paying attention to shifting and the road than anxiously waiting for a bleeping notification.

A five-speed manual or four-speed automatic would at least add a bit of life to many of today’s cars that have only one gear with no option.
 
It is wrong. They aren't fun. They aren't in any way adding to the game. They're advertisements from the car companies, and I get that necessity, but give them a purpose beyond marketing.

So, simple solution, make them fun. Put them on the engine swap list. Do something.

They're popular road vehicles because you sit higher. That's all. They're worse in every possible way compared to an estate car/wagon. People love minivans too, I don't more of them either.

As it stands, because of my experience with these cars in the game, I don't even want to consider owning one. Is that good advertising?
One thing Kaz can do to reinvigorate GT7 is to give the player the option to swap engines for ALL cars.
 
Must admit, it's quite strange to add these underpowered SUVs so late on in the game's life. It does strike me as purely advertising and most likely cheap "filler material" Then again, it is over 3 years old now and so I don't blame PD for not providing the latest and greatest.
 
There’s gotta be something in this update about Pikes Peak. A separate museum for Pikes Peak? Some decals? Maybe a link to the Pikes Peak streaming feed?
The Delta S4 ran up Pikes Peak in 1987. Maybe a sentence about that in the Lancia Integrale Rally Car write up. Maybe?
 
Loads of people completely missing the point of car additions that aren’t super cars or race cars.

sometimes you want to know what the lap time round the Nordschleife in a car your family currently has or one you remember from your childhood. Some people will have their first experience ever driving a car to be some of these from the updates so the addition can make it relatable and inviting to new and existing players.

It’s almost as if complainers have forgotten the amount of regular street cars (loads of boxes from Daihatsu or the family orientated Mazda’s) that the gran turismo series has always included.

People demanding latest race cars all the time so they can pretend to be buddying racing drivers need to realise the game is not just focused on their aspirations but tries to be inclusive of loads of different ways to play the game.
 
I was putting together a race of SUVs and Vans at Tsukuba. Just out of curiosity looked up SUV races by Best Motoring. It’s funny we had the Mazda CX-7 and Range Rover concepts and now we have modern Mazda, Toyota and sport SUV, plus people movers, nearly twenty years later.


I dont know why they add them but they do like japanese cars allot
 
Ummmm so if one of the new cars is the Sitch BX, will we have to wait at the start of a race for the car to rise up on its hydro-pneumatics before hitting the go pedal?
Iam being a bit daft of course, but given the lack of active aero on the most recent Porsche, will there be an animation on the BX? For example if we were to stall the car would it sink and hide the rear wheel away in the rear arch cover? Then rise again upon restarting the engine?

It won't happen. But. Wouldn't that be coooooool?!?!
 
I’m looking forward to have the Citroen BX in the game as i used to own a 1.9 GTI , it was a fun car to drive and the leaver to raise or lower the car used to amuse the kids . the only downside was when the hydraulics would leak.
 
I‘m not joking when I say that these Gran Turismo updates actually taught me that it‘s pointless to get emotionally invested about things beyond your control. 😂 I would love the latest GT3 cars and Hypercars/GTP‘s in the game but at this point it just won‘t happen and no amount of complaining will change that.

That leaves me with two choices: I can accept this fact and try to enjoy the game in spite of this flaw or leave. Since I like the base game a lot and love to make liveries, I choose the first option.

Kaz‘s stubborness actually allowed me to achieve an almost zen-like mindset that translated onto other areas of my life, I should thank him for that. Again, this isn‘t me trolling you guys, I am 100% serious!

To stay on topic: I am also looking forward to creating WRC replica liveries for the Lancia.
 
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Something that just occurred to me: Remember with the Celica Rally car how PD had gone back and forth between Kankkunen's car (Gran Turismo 3 & 7) & Auriol's car (Gran Turismo 4-6)? What are the odds we might have this happen again with the Lancia Delta? Ironically if there are multiple cars (assuming its from 1992 like the previously scanned car), it could involve the same two drivers.
 
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I don’t mind the update. The 2008 and Citroen might be a bit of fun and hopefully the 2008 can be upgraded properly, unlike prior SUVs. I’m happy for these everyday cars to be added, and it’s good to see some more European models too.

Would love a track but I won’t hold out hope.
 
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