Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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GT4 had one of the best events: the 2h45m race at Sonoma. Other than the iconic races at LeMans & Laguna Seca, it was an actual race.

I wonder if FiA online races will be any longer than a handful of laps. PD need to show a bit what can be done in setting up a series.
 
Well I seem to recall the final race is supposed to be a 24 hour race but that will be obviously be done via LAN at a special final event, where there can be driver changes. I can't see the actual online races being anything more than the usual old GT 2-5 laps, mainly for network reasons.
 
Samus
Well I seem to recall the final race is supposed to be a 24 hour race but that will be obviously be done via LAN at a special final event, where there can be driver changes. I can't see the actual online races being anything more than the usual old GT 2-5 laps, mainly for network reasons.
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And I take it, that defeats this eSports purpose for serious racers. Some are good at qualy, some from the back of the pack and some are good in leading a race.

I guess casual gaming at best.
 
Suzumiya
The more I look at GT SPORT, the more excited I get.

In the racing game genre, it's an odd mix. Games like Forza Motorsport have just settled for adding more cars and tracks, and not really caring about the substance of their content. Sure, you can have all the V8 Supercars you want, but when you have the biggest event of their season to be only 100 miles, and not even have a full season, and just one track of their entire series, it's kind of a slap in the face. GT seemed to be heading in that direction, a ton of cars from everywhere and such, and not much to race against, there wasn't any balance of performance, no real categories, you could make your own, but the game didn't really care. It was just a line of series with an assortment of radically different race cars racing each other.

As from a regular racing fan's standpoint, it's disappointing going from 1000+ cars to like, an assortment of 100 or so, and only a few tracks to race in, but I firmly stand by that this is the shakeup that Gran Turismo needs badly. Many say that the series was stuck in 1999, so the team is doing all it can to change up their formula.

With this, there's a real group of cars to race each other with, and a true form of multiclass. Sure, it's weird to see maybe an open wheel car with a Peugeot 208, but they have done the balancing so that they all have their quirks while being competitive. There's also an actual structure of championship (although it being online), with racing rules, flags, hopefully penalties and such. I wish they could bring this experience to the single player aspect of things instead of feeling the light for 3 years, but it's a step in the right direction. GT Sport is great from a motorsports fan's view.

It's a shake up Gran Turismo needed, and I hope other series follow and overdo Gran Turismo in the future.
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There are several other games that do this. I know you're aware of them. They do OK, but they're niche and they don't exactly sell 10 million copies. Which is fine, they're produced on a budget. But I have doubts that something like GT can cover their costs selling such a game.
 
Samus
Well I seem to recall the final race is supposed to be a 24 hour race but that will be obviously be done via LAN at a special final event, where there can be driver changes. I can't see the actual online races being anything more than the usual old GT 2-5 laps, mainly for network reasons.
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By "online races" I assume you're talking Sport mode.
And yes, considering what we've seen it's an interesting question.

We have of course seen this image.

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Two things of note.
600 laps around a half mile track, and "Nurburgring 24 h".

Probably fair to assume the last is in reference to the track name, not the length of time for the event?
But, and unfortunately I'm not currently at home where I have access to all my links, I'm fairly certain I would be able to find another reference to 24 hour racing, because I recall talking about it before.

So I'm still on the fence as to what we'll see in Sport mode.
 
Ah, so they do have endurance racing back. That's cool I suppose, but I don't see myself doing it. I kinda stopped entering endurance events after GT3; I don't have the patience to race around the same track for more than 2 hours. Sure, I can take breaks, but endurance racing in my experience kinda bores me.
 
Agreed^^ what's the point of an endurance race where you can pause, there is no visual or mechanical damage, the AI is terrible and there is no dymanic TOD/weather?
 
At least the chaotic development of GT5 was understandable with a new engine and many new features. But GTsport... A year with more or less the same tracks and cars at every events. They are more than 200 at Poly today, not a small studio. The whole AAA japonese game industry is outdated : FF15, TLG, PES, Konami, Capcom with the unfinished SF5.
GT with 20 years of experience and a huge budget should be ahead in almost every departments : features, sounds, cars list... IMO the state of GTsport is not acceptable.
 
queleuleu
At least the chaotic development of GT5 was understandable with a new engine and many new features. But GTsport... A year with more or less the same tracks and cars at every events. They are more than 200 at Poly today, not a small studio. The whole AAA japonese game industry is outdated : FF15, TLG, PES, Konami, Capcom with the unfinished SF5.
GT with 20 years of experience and a huge budget should be ahead in almost every departments : features, sounds, cars list... IMO the state of GTsport is not acceptable.
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I heard that FF15 was pretty good. I mean, they were making for a long time but there were other FF games put out in between so it's not like they just went dark. It's only been 3 years since the last major FF game.
 
RandomCarGuy17
Ah, so they do have endurance racing back. That's cool I suppose, but I don't see myself doing it. I kinda stopped entering endurance events after GT3; I don't have the patience to race around the same track for more than 2 hours. Sure, I can take breaks, but endurance racing in my experience kinda bores me.
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Looks to me that it's online verses real players.

karelpipa
You mean like the ones in GT4? Yes, they were pointless.
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Total rubbish. Pick a car that doesn't give you an advantage and you have a race.
 
Endurance racing in GT4 (or before) was fun as long as you had a car that wouldn't overkill the grid on very first lap. I dislike degrading my car to find decent challenge at least, but back then that worked well.

And saving during long endurance race is must, not all players have that much spare time to waste. If PD doesn't plan on doing it, they should stick with 1-2 hour endurance events, tops.
 
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I find it very odd that even now despite the advancement in everything, nobody does mid-race saves anymore. How would it be any harder in today's games then it was on the PS2 with Le Mans 24 Hours?

I imagine the endurance races on GT4 would've been so much more bearable as opposed to have to either B-spec most of the race before doing some more, or actually sitting the whole time all the while the weather or time of day never changes.
 
Tired Tyres
Looks to me that it's online verses real players.
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Which is also why I won't be doing it, I've gotten disconnected from races in both GT and Forza from 3-5 laps races; I'm not so confident that PD will have a solid server that can hold 2+ hour races.
 
RandomCarGuy17
Which is also why I won't be doing it, I've gotten disconnected from races in both GT and Forza from 3-5 laps races; I'm not so confident that PD will have a solid server that can hold 2+ hour races.
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Maybe that will be fixed by dedicated servers? On the other hand that might only apply to the FIA events.
 

"Wolfgang Porsche, chairman of Porsche SE, center, looks on as Martin Winterkorn, chief executive officer of Volkswagen AG, left, shanks hands with Kazunori Yamauchi, president of Polyphony Digital, during the IAA Frankfurt Motor Show in Frankfurt, Germany, on Tuesday, Sept. 15, 2015"

I hope they talked about a deal:bowdown:
 
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"Wolfgang Porsche, chairman of Porsche SE, center, looks on as Martin Winterkorn, chief executive officer of Volkswagen AG, left, shanks hands with Kazunori Yamauchi, president of Polyphony Digital, during the IAA Frankfurt Motor Show in Frankfurt, Germany, on Tuesday, Sept. 15, 2015"

I hope they talked about a deal:bowdown:
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Bugatti VGT reveal event. I saw the picture a year ago and I was like you but it was the same set for every VW brands.
I'm quite sure that the presence of Porsche in a videogame doesn't need the greenlight of the big boss himself^^ rather a legal issue.
 
Imari
I heard that FF15 was pretty good. I mean, they were making for a long time but there were other FF games put out in between so it's not like they just went dark. It's only been 3 years since the last major FF game.
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I heard that the seconf half of FF15 was bad and for 10 years of "development", we expect the best. (GT5 effect...) and the longer they take to make GTSport, the bigger our expectations are.
 

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