GT5 Sound Thread

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speedfreak69
Griffith:
I'm not gonna argue with you on merits of a good surround system, It's great and all, but overall importance isn't of such magnitude as is a believable, recognizable and therefore, exciting engine sound, which is in fact the core sound in a driving game, and should be equally(relatively) exciting, whether you play it on a stereo, headphones or a high-end surround system. That's the point, and it doesn't make sense to keep dragging that issue of having a good enough system to properly enjoy it. Cheap headphones should be "good enough", high-end surround system should be just icing on the cake, if you know what I mean.
btw. I didn't mean nothing personal with the "sound system theory", it's just one of the caned arguments that you get from the GT apologetic crowd, and it just doesn't stand, because lots of other games have proven that you can have great sound on the cheapest set of speakers/headphones.

pappaclart:
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He he, I Just want darn realistic engine sounds, WHY WHY WHY WHY. In this day and age it is Poor that there have been so many racing games with what seems like spectrum 128k (remember those) quality sound!! And it is even more POOR that a game produced by a self proclaimed perfections has such imperfect sound. Now there has been improvements right up until GT5P with some cars sounding more than acceptable but like I have said before many are lacking and the ones that are close should be better than they are.

I am confident now though that we will see a vast improvement when GT5 finally hits the shelves..After 5+ years if it is not I will probably kill my hamster!!
 
PAPPACLART
He he, I Just want darn realistic engine sounds, WHY WHY WHY WHY. In this day and age it is Poor that there have been so many racing games with what seems like spectrum 128k (remember those) quality sound!! And it is even more POOR that a game produced by a self proclaimed perfections has such imperfect sound. Now there has been improvements right up until GT5P with some cars sounding more than acceptable but like I have said before many are lacking and the ones that are close should be better than they are.

I am confident now though that we will see a vast improvement when GT5 finally hits the shelves..After 5+ years if it is not I will probably kill my hamster!!
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I feel sorry for your hamster then. HAHAHAHA!
 
I can't explain it, but GT5:P does sound better to me on my PC's surround sound (cheap though it is) compared to the speakers on the TV, better still on my studio-monitor-style headphones. The sound settings in the options menu make a huge difference - this, I feel, is indisputable.

However, something sounding good or exciting or authentic all mean different things to different people, and, to top it off, everybody has their own delusions as to what a car sounds like (myself included, obviously).

Now I don't want to be seen as a GT apologetic (I'm not pointing the finger either, just using the phrase) instead I like to think I'm open minded. My thoughts and feelings on the artistic accuracy of GT5:P's car engine / exhaust sounds have been voiced many times in this thread - there is a great deal of inconsistency in the sounds, and many do sound poor. But, you'd be a fool if you couldn't recognise the potential in the audio engine to produce sounds that rival anything we've heard to date, providing the mix of the right samples is "up to standard".

I will agree that the Clio V6 is a monster, great fun online, too!

Oh and Spagetti69, if you want truly authentic, splash out on a few quid and head over to a grass-track, rally-cross or other such club-level event for some cheap thrills! 👍
 
Griffith500
I can't explain it, but GT5:P does sound better to me on my PC's surround sound (cheap though it is) compared to the speakers on the TV, better still on my studio-monitor-style headphones. The sound settings in the options menu make a huge difference - this, I feel, is indisputable.
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Mostly due to low frequencies range and Bass. Computer Speakers are tweaked mostly to push heavy sounds like explosions and engine roars. While TV speakers are more tuned for high frenquencies like speech patterns and stricking sounds (remember the original THX logo sequence with all the shriiiiiiking sounds...).

HEadphones have the same problem, they are usually of cheap[er] quality; like Bose, JVCs, Sony's or low-range sennheiser. They are build around "Bass" setups to give out as much of mp3-grade music quality (128-192hz).

While Audiophile stuff, which is more high-end, will offer a much better range, and will value more high freqencies as much as lows.

However, with all this said, the sound system shouldn't be the isssue; sound recording and playback is. In the case of Gran Turismo, having 1000 cars is a bit of a problem... there is absolutely NO WAY they can make "authentic" and/or "realistic" engine sounds for every single unique cars + their mods (muffles, engine tweaks...). They have to cut somewhere and that's where it happens... so they'll have a very generic V6, V8, Twin, turbocharge filter and so on... and all but a few "superstar" cars will sound very similar. That's unfortunate, but its a matter of memory, load time (imagine 16 cars on a track, each with completely different engine and foley sounds... loaded at once... ouch!) and mostly, production time... of course.

Overall, i think in the end, the number of cars is what is killing the sound quality. They gotta generalize a bit, and that's what happens.

now about those tire skreeching sounds...
 
PAPPACLART
He he, I Just want darn realistic engine sounds, WHY WHY WHY WHY. In this day and age it is Poor that there have been so many racing games with what seems like spectrum 128k (remember those) quality sound!! And it is even more POOR that a game produced by a self proclaimed perfections has such imperfect sound. Now there has been improvements right up until GT5P with some cars sounding more than acceptable but like I have said before many are lacking and the ones that are close should be better than they are.

I am confident now though that we will see a vast improvement when GT5 finally hits the shelves..After 5+ years if it is not I will probably kill my hamster!!
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Don't harm that poor little creature! One of these days PD will get the sound right and it might be on GT5 for all we know. But i wouldn't be holding my breath!
 
So, just thought I'd do a quick recording of the Tuned Clio V6.

Something I've noticed is the engine sound has too much mechanical whirr, as though the fan belt were 10 times the size it ought to be...
A lack of decent intake sound prevails, as usual, but the exhaust note is good at least! :D

This was captured by routing the optical connection from the PS3 to my soundcard. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a way to record this directly, so I looped the stereo output back as a line-in to record from.

The analogue 5.1 mix is downmixed and combined using the built-in CMSS 3D Headphones processing available on all X-Fi soundcards.

Best enjoyed with headphones, preferably large, over-ear headphones ;)
 

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Helpful! Well it works fine for me, re-downloaded without a problem... No idea what's going on! :odd:
Anybody else with the same "broken zip file" issue?
 
Works fine for me but it's a tuned clio - those things sound like a bunch of angry wasps in real life. Try an NA V8 or a high revving V12 - something with a bit of character and/or balls.
 
Good-good. 👍

It's for those, who don't have the facility, but want to hear it in surround. It's a fairly high-fidelity recording (that is, relative to what the game is putting out) so it's better than YouTube et al.
 
Clio v6 sounds amazing in real life. For a production car.

The file does sound great with both headphones in, unfortunately it doesn't translate very well through my TV, such a shame. :(
 
P3nT4gR4m
Works fine for me but it's a tuned clio - those things sound like a bunch of angry wasps in real life. Try an NA V8 or a high revving V12 - something with a bit of character and/or balls.
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I wouldn't agree on the angry wasp thing, it's a V6 after all...

I had a stab at the 599... it has an abysmal engine sound, too heavily mixed as usual thanks to the absence of a proper intake sound! The exhaust note seems OK, if a little dry and overly hollow, but I've no real basis for comparison...

ahaa!


This is awesome! Great contrast between the intake and exhaust; of course, individual throttle bodies help there...


The recording is a little bit quiet, perhaps... but it's hard to avoid clipping on the louder "spikes"!
 

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Griffith500
I wouldn't agree on the angry wasp thing, it's a V6 after all... QUOTE]

Well there are all kinds of V6 (as V8/V12/ etc. ) engines with all kind of different characteristics depending on bore versus stroke amongst many things.
You can design any engine deliberately focussing on torque or high power output, agreed most road cars with a V6 engine are mainly designed to produce high torque figures.
Compare the V8 engine of the Corvette with the V8 engine of the F430, there totally different, and therefor sound very different.
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Skip to 1 min. You are right, all engines sound different so you are bound to be disappointed with some.
 
JAGUAR1977
We'll know if PD have finally mastered realistic engine sounds when we drive distinctive sounding cars like the Ferrari F40LM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YPabCzxMXM&feature=youtube_gdata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iulqTkQM6Yc&feature=youtube_gdata
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I've seen that vid before, that beast has awesome sound and I love all the little things happening aurally when you step on it in that car!:drool::D
btw. Forza's rendition is quite spot on actually.👍

*Just found this vid on youtube. Pretty sweet setup! at 2:30 he demonstrates the sound of the porsche and I must say, it sounds good!:)
 
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GT5 IS-F sound extracted from the data logger video.

Both external driveby and interior. Nice use of stereo imaging, and the Doppler effect sounds good.

Sounds like a Stock IS-F V8 too me 👍
 

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omfg this reeeaalyy sound spot on ! Well Done PD you just improved last thing that we feared about !

Now we can prepare for perfection in every detail.


Ohh sorry !! i Forgot ;) Skdmarks , now it's only skidmarks ;)

BTW i can't wait to see v12 roar ...
 
CoolColJ
GT5 IS-F sound extracted from the data logger video.

Both external driveby and interior. Nice use of stereo imaging, and the Doppler effect sounds good.

Sounds like a Stock IS-F V8 too me 👍
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compare to the real thing at 2:50 - sounds so close!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1071035/first_drive_2008_lexus_isf/

And Tiff Needell hammering it


here is a better video to compare the IS-F from Prologue to GT5 than the one shown on the news page, direct capture...massive difference
terrible and it hurts my ears too! Doppler sounds horrible...
[YOUTUBEHD]6pvBu69keNg[/YOUTUBEHD]


Griffith500
So, just thought I'd do a quick recording of the Tuned Clio V6.

Something I've noticed is the engine sound has too much mechanical whirr, as though the fan belt were 10 times the size it ought to be...
A lack of decent intake sound prevails, as usual, but the exhaust note is good at least! :D

This was captured by routing the optical connection from the PS3 to my soundcard. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a way to record this directly, so I looped the stereo output back as a line-in to record from.

The analogue 5.1 mix is downmixed and combined using the built-in CMSS 3D Headphones processing available on all X-Fi soundcards.

Best enjoyed with headphones, preferably large, over-ear headphones ;)
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BTW if I download the zip file with IE 7 I get a corrupt zip, but not with Firefox....

Anyway it sounds pretty synthetic to me. GT5 will be way better!!!!
 
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Wow, that GT5 ISF, Sounds Very Good.. Almost similar to the real ones, i like the new V8 rumble, and they managed to get right the sound of a V8 in high RPMS.

Good Job PD, keep up the good work.

The sound of this car made me Cry in GT5p...
 
This again makes me wonder why everytime first videos of new game have to be so bad quality. Why can not PD just give us high quality press material if they notice that something low quality stuff is released/leaked from events(asuming they want to hide stuff from us like they used to, and not give material to us before someone leaks some low quality videos)
 

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