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Discussion in 'GT6 Tuning' started by DolHaus, Feb 2, 2014.

  1. TurnLeft

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    I just tried it a Trial Mountain, it's very sensitive, can be very fast but the margin of error is very slim. A few times after braking the body would slip sideways, had to ease in more in the braking zone than I usually do. Something that happened quite often while turning was that all the tires turned red except the front inside (and on occasion the rear inside), the car would slip sideways. (is that how you got the name of the project?) I really love the way the car feels for turning but I wish that it would hold a little more while doing it. It feels more like one of those alien cars, fast but be precise. Nice work, hope that the test drivers are better than me and can exploit the car to it's full potential. BTW, I still haven't had time to try the modification you did to the Elise, I will one day, but when??????????? :cheers:
     
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  2. DolHaus

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    Yeah its a pure time attack car for Autumn Ring reverse, its not an easy car to drive by a long shot but if you can get used to it then there aren't many that will go faster. I would probably run a different setup for a fast bumpy track like trial mountain, maybe raise the dampers by a click and increase the brake balance to stabilise the car a bit more.
    Thank you for testing it though, I might be able to give your Maserati a test today at some point :tup:
     
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  3. Dagger311

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    Wonderful tune, such a shame I ended up not having time to do one myself...

    Excellent at what it was made to do, but it requires such a specific line to drive safely, that it can't really handle racing with other cars that could take the spot it needs. Or at least, I can't drive it and win with other cars on the track. :lol:
     
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  4. DolHaus

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    Thank you, glad you enjoyed it :tup:
    Its a bit of a beast but once you get to know her she's not so bad, needs to be driven with aggression and precision to get the most out of it. As you say though, shes not a racer, got the speed but won't take well to dog fighting and doesn't take prisoners when you cross the limit :tup:
     
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  5. DolHaus

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    Honda Civic Type-R (EK) Touring Car '97

    Wheel / Joypad:
    PS3 controller
    Power: 259 BHP @ 9000 Rpm / 21.6 kgfm @ 8500 Rpm
    Weight: 900 kg
    Performance Points: 450 PP
    Tires: RH
    Weight Distribution: 58:42

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 110 Rear: 90
    Spring Rate: Front: 11.90 kg Rear: 9.30 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 4 Rear: 8
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 9 Rear: 3
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 4 Rear: 7
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.15° Rear: -0.12°
    Brakes: Racing Upgrade F: 4 R: 6

    Drivetrain: (Fully Customisable Transmission)

    Set final to 4.150
    Set max to 112

    Speed: 112 mph

    1:
    4.530
    2: 3.285
    3:
    2.520
    4: 2.040
    5: 1.700
    6: 1.460

    Final:
    3.150

    Differential Gear:Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque:
    F= 5
    Acceleration Sensitivity: F= 18
    Braking Sensitivity: F= 6
    Clutch & Flywheel: Standard
    Propeller Shaft: Standard

    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 97.9%
    Engine Tuning: Stage 2
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter: Standard
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F = 120 R = 100
    Weight Reduction: Standard
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows: Standard
    Ballast: 55kg
    Ballast position: 0
     
  6. DolHaus

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    FITT Pro Touring GT
    #Contest Laptime/DC Winner#
    Jaguar XKR-S '11
    Project: Scoundrel

    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 638 BHP @ 7300 Rpm / 72.7 kgfm @ 4300 Rpm
    Weight: 1400 kg
    Performance Points: 603 PP
    Wheels: Standard Size
    Fitted parts: Front Aero A/ Flat Floor A/ Custom Rear Wing
    Tires: RH
    Weight Distribution: 51:49

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 90 Rear: 90
    Spring Rate: Front: 8.58 kg Rear: 9.20 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 5 Rear: 10
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 10 Rear: 5
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 6 Rear: 7
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.02° Rear: 0.00°
    Brakes (Racing): F: 3 R: 5


    Drivetrain: (Fully Customisable Transmission)
    1) Set final to 5.000
    2) Set Max Speed to 137
    3) Set in sequence (6-5-4-3-2-1-F)



    1: 3.054

    2: 2.235
    3: 1.709
    4: 1.370
    5: 1.123
    6: 0.955


    Final: 3.600



    Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque: R= 5
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 11
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 7

    Clutch & Flywheel:
    Triple-Plate
    Propeller Shaft: Standard


    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 99.9%
    Engine Tuning: Stage 3
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter: Sports
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F: 0 R: 6
    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet: Carbon
    Windows: Weight Reduction
    Ballast: 58 kg
    Ballast position: 50%
     
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  7. DolHaus

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    TVR Tuscan Speed 6 Touring Car '00
    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 355 BHP @ 5100 Rpm / 50.7 kgfm @ 5000 Rpm
    Weight: 1000 kg
    Performance Points: 527 PP
    Wheels: Standard Size
    Fitted parts:
    Tires:
    RH
    Weight Distribution: 48:52

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 85 Rear: 85
    Spring Rate: Front: 11.74 kg Rear: 12.72 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 4 Rear: 3
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 4
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 3 Rear: 4
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.00° Rear: 0.00°
    Brakes (Racing): F: 4 R: 5


    Drivetrain: (Fully Customisable Transmission)
    1) Set final to 4.500
    2) Set Max Speed to 124
    3) Set in sequence (5-4-3-2-1-F)



    1: 3.655

    2: 2.575
    3: 1.945
    4: 1.500
    5: 1.175


    Final: 3.225



    Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque: R= 7
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 22
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 15

    Clutch & Flywheel:
    Standard
    Propeller Shaft: Carbon


    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 71.8%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter: Standard
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F: 202 R: 375
    Weight Reduction: Standard
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows: Standard
    Ballast: 115 kg
    Ballast position: 20%
     
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  8. TurnLeft

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    Just did some laps on your favorite track, "Brands Hatch" :lol: , this one has got your signature all over it :rolleyes:, nice and easy to control, good speed, I know FF cars are not your first love but you did do a great job on this one, but I never was able to open the sun roof, why put it if you can't use it? If I get a chance I'll be trying your Esprit and the new setup for your Elise. I also found a few tunings by some of our alien residents, the only trouble with them is they were all done with SRF, still going to see what they did. So until the next post, :cheers:.
     
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  9. MANARANCHE

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    Hi Mister Dolhaus,
    With friends we organize a championship of running(race) of GT3.
    So as " to try " to balance cars, particularly difficult thing with these :banghead:, we opted for a ratio weight / power of 2,10. Having tested PP, then Power, then + weight this way seemed to us rather just.
    You could express your opinion:D
     
  10. ColinH96

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    I know that you didnt ask me, but real GT3's run a power/weight more around 2.5-2.6, so your races will be very fast compared to real times, but that only matters if you are trying to emulate the real series.
     
  11. DolHaus

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  14. MANARANCHE

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    Thank you for your answer, you are completely right but I play with almighty which want a max of emotion (lol):lol:
     
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  15. Gyro1780

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    I've tested pretty much all the tunes for this car on here & this one suits my driving style the most. One problem i have is the aero kit & flat floors are so ugly. Over the last couple of days i've tried to make small adjustments to this tune after losing both the aero kit & flat floors but i just cannot get it to handle as nicely as i would like it. I've kept the PP at 600 & added a custom spoiler. If you have any spare time would it be possible for you to try & see what you can do with it please? No probs if not but i had to ask :)
     
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  16. DolHaus

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    I will try and give it a look at some point but I have the feeling it will be an almost complete retune due to the way the car was originally spec'd.
    Unfortunately because the car is running downforce and ballast the spring rates will need to be adjusted if I remove these to meet PP without touching the power parts. If I add power parts then I will have to adjust the dampers, LSD and transmission. I can't just make a few small adjustments and sort the car out, this car is very finely balanced so small changes can have big impacts and completely upset the tune
     
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  17. Gyro1780

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    Thanks for your reply. This probably explains why i was having problems then as i was just making small adjustments to your tune.
     
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  18. DolHaus

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    If the car is running no aero at all but keeping the ballast then try reversing the front and rear spring rates, if the car feels like its oversteering too much then switch or level the ARBs as well. If the car feels too stiff once this is all done then try multiplying the spring rates by .95 on a calculator :tup:

    The problem with ballast and downforce from a tuning perspective is that it changes both the the static weight distribution and the weight distribution when the car is moving, the spring rates directly relate to this weight distribution so if you change one thing then you have to change them all :banghead:
     
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  19. Gyro1780

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    I'll try these instructions. Thanks a lot :)
     
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  20. DolHaus

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    Nissan SKYLINE GT-R V spec (R33) '97
    'Unicorn Hunter'


    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 376 BHP @ 7000 Rpm / 49.7 kgfm @ 4600 Rpm
    Weight: 1232 kg
    Performance Points: 500 PP
    Wheels: Standard Size
    Fitted parts: Front Aero A/ Custom Rear Wing
    Tires: SH
    Weight Distribution: 54:46

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 105 Rear: 100
    Spring Rate: Front: 5.58 kg Rear: 6.52 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 2 Rear: 4
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 3 Rear: 3
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 4 Rear: 3
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.00° Rear: 0.00°
    Brakes (Racing): F: 5 R: 6


    Drivetrain: (Six-Speed Transmission)
    Max Speed - 186mph

    1: 3.236
    2: 2.193
    3: 1.607
    4: 1.235
    5: 0.995
    6: 0.840


    Final: 4.111



    Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque: F= 10 R= 10
    Acceleration Sensitivity: F= 38 R= 35
    Braking Sensitivity: F= 15 R= 15

    Clutch & Flywheel:
    Twin-Plate
    Propeller Shaft: Carbon
    Torque Distributing Centre Differential: 35:65


    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Semi-Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Isometric
    Catalytic Converter: Standard
    Intake Tuning: Yes
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F: 0 R: 45
    Weight Reduction: Stage 3
    Bonnet: Carbon
    Windows: Weight Reduction
    Ballast: 0 kg
    Ballast position: 0%
     
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  21. DolHaus

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    2000 Ford Falcon XR8

    Wheel / Joypad:
    PS3 controller
    Power: 599 BHP @ 7500 Rpm / 63.5 kgfm @ 5500 Rpm
    Weight: 1350 kg
    Performance Points: 594 PP
    Tires: RH
    Weight Distribution: 56:44

    Suspension : (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 80 Rear: 80
    Spring Rate: Front: 23.71 kg Rear: 18.63 kg
    Dampers (Compression):Front: 5 Rear: 5
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 5
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 5 Rear: 4
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.05° Rear: 0.00°
    Brakes: Racing Upgrade F: 5 R: 5

    Drivetrain: (Fully Customisable Transmission)

    Set final to 4.250
    Set max to 124

    Speed: 124 mph

    1:
    3.970
    2: 2.890
    3:
    2.215
    4: 1.760
    5: 1.460
    6: 1.215

    Final:
    2.761

    Differential Gear:Fully Customisable Mechanical Limited-Slip Diff​

    Initial Torque:
    R= 10
    Acceleration Sensitivity: R= 30
    Braking Sensitivity: R= 15
    Clutch & Flywheel: Standard
    Propeller Shaft: Standard

    Power

    Oil Change:
    No
    Power Limiter: 100%
    Engine Tuning: Standard
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter: Standard
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: Standard
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement:
    No
    Downforce: F = 385 R = 600
    Weight Reduction: Standard
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows: Standard
    Ballast: 0kg
    Ballast position: 0

    For @Pete05 (long overdue :lol:)
     
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  22. Pete05

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    Highly appreciated & no doubt worth the wait.
    What sort of laptimes were you getting with this setup around the mountain?
     
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  23. DolHaus

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    Around 2:08 I think? Bit out of practice on the circuit though and the car is setup for feel rather than pace.
    Been watching some of the V8SC highlights and I think it drives like I imagine they would, you can feel the weight of the car and the low down guts of the engine but its reasonably forgiving and simple at the limit.
    I think they got the PP of this car way off though, its just not competitive in its class no matter what you do to it unfortunately
     
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  24. Pete05

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    I used to have the exact gear ratios & maximum speeds in each gear written down somewhere but I can't find them anymore.
    I do know that a V8 Supercar of that era was on the 7500rpm rev limit in 5th gear at the end of Mountain Straight, the limit in 4th just before Skyline & at 302km/h in 6th as they entered the Chase of Conrod Straight. The fastest qualifying time in 2000 was a 2:11:8882 set by Mark Skaife in a Commodore.
    It would be incredibly difficult to exactly replicate this car as they had a locked diff that turned both wheels at exactly the same speed and as a result, a fairly unique setup that required braking right up to the apex of a corner. This diff would also effect rear tyrewear & from my experience with this car in GT5 & GT6, it always wears the front tyres faster than the rears. That's the complete opposite of what the Ford drivers endured in real life.
    I totally agree with you about the PP. I think PD have taken into account the BHP & weight of the car but not the aerodynamics. Yes the Falcon has front & rear spoilers but they don't provide that much downforce.
     
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  25. cbarbosa

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    Review posted on CoTM thread. :tup:
     
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  26. DolHaus

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    Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Super Rally Car
    Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
    Power: 440 BHP @ 4000 rpm / 82.3kgfm @ 3800 rpm
    Weight: 1230 kg
    Performance Points: 550pp
    Tires: Spiked Snow Tyres

    Suspension: (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

    Ride Height: Front: 130 Rear: 130
    Spring Rate: Front: 8.46 kg Rear: 7.22 kg
    Dampers (Compression): Front: 4 Rear: 5
    Dampers (Extension): Front: 5 Rear: 4
    Anti-Roll Bars: Front: 2 Rear: 1
    Camber Angle (-): Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
    Toe Angle: Front: 0.10° Rear: 0.00°
    Brakes: Racing Upgrade F: 6 R: 7

    Drivetrain: Fully Customisable Transmission

    1) Set final to 4.425
    2) Set Max Speed to 112

    1: 3.430
    2: 2.585
    3: 1.915
    4: 1.540
    5: 1.280
    6: 1.086


    Final: 3.375

    Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Differential

    Initial Torque:
    F 5 R 5
    Acceleration Sensitivity: F 30 R 35
    Braking Sensitivity: F 8 R 8
    Clutch & Flywheel: Standard
    Propeller Shaft: Standard
    Torque Distributing Centre Differential: 48:52


    Power

    Oil Change: No
    Power Limiter: 74.4%
    Engine Tuning: Stage 3
    Computer: Standard
    Exhaust: Racing
    Exhaust Manifold: Standard
    Catalytic Converter: Standard
    Intake Tuning: Standard
    Turbo Kit: Stage: High-RPM
    Nitrous Oxide (N2O): No

    Body

    Body Rigidity Improvement: No
    Downforce: F: 150 R: 327
    Weight Reduction: Standard
    Bonnet: Standard
    Windows: Standard
    Ballast: 0 kg
    Ballast position: 0
     
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  27. Thorin Cain

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    :confused: I don't know if I should be sad because I'm trying to find myself a good set-up for this right now, and you've done it first, or happy because someone else has done all the hard work and I can get on with the other few thousand things I have on my plate!? :lol:

    Nice one mate! My favourite rally car by far, so I'll be checking this out at some point real soon.:tup:
    Thanks for posting!:cheers:
     
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  28. DolHaus

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    It was the first car that popped up when I started the seasonal events so I thought I'd give it a go. I quite like the car now after spending some time in it, good fun and easy to drive fast in the snow. Little bit of understeer in the long fast corners due to the heavy nose but easy enough to deal with, was getting into the high 1:12's by the end. Looking at an RS200 next... :lol:
     
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    Well, I'll steer clear of that one then. [​IMG] I was liking the look of the Pajero myself
     
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  30. DolHaus

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    Don't call it that if you ever go to Spain, apparently it means something quite rude :lol:
     
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