I don't even think there's much specifically wrong with "The Physics" here, rather, I think it's a control input problem. I'll attempt to explain and know I'm doing a bad job, but basically, you push the stick left, which makes the rider start to lean left, which forces the bike down and into the turn. The trouble is, it takes too long from the time you hit the control to make the turn to the time your bike reaches full lean so you end up running straight far further than you intended. Once the bike starts turning there's usually no push or anything unless your setup is really, really bad, it just takes too long to actually start turning.
The physics in 5 were a step up from the previous games but the controls were so much better in 4 (or 3, or all the way back to 2) you couldn't really notice. Can't remember who said it here (RZ05?) but realistically, anyone can ride around a track, it's pushing just that extra 10% that's the hard part so I'm not sure how you'd address that with our currently available controllers without making it basically impossible for all but the most dedicated players. Alienating the playerbase that is largely not made up of serious gamers is never a good move.
it's not a controller thing believe me, it's Milestone's approach to physics. The game has hidden aids which you cannot toggle off no matter off, much like how Forza plays on a controller, although I'm told that in the latter, even wheel users have to deal with hidden aids.
They took the manual tuck out which has dramatically affected handling around corners, and not in a good way, believe me. There are also hidden assists or aids that prevent you from overleaning or overturning the bike, and therefore, you do not fall off. Many of these bikes would violently throw you off if you aggressively brake or accelerate, especially while turning and leaning, but you don't see that behaviour being modelled in Ride 5.
I don't have much hope for Ride 6, frankly, in fact I think it's going to be even less realistic. Game developers everywhere seem to be ditching realism and authenticity in exhange for for sales. I hate it. Simulations, bike and car, used to be much better in the 1990s and throughout the early 2000s. Developers were actually passionate about accurately modelling behaviour on two and four wheels, and not just focused on pleasing everyone at the same time.
I think the next 10 years or so in racing games, and especiallly bike racing games, is again going to be focused too much on visuals and silly concepts like ride fests and all, whereas the core of the game will likely continue to diminish. Well, I'll put an end to my rant now, gamers are partuially to blame as well as they simply do not want to put in the effort to properly learn a game and go through the required learning curve. Most people just want a pick me up and want to win something.
Just imagine if the developers of RIMS and TT were to work with Milestone to make the ultimate motorbike sim. Never happening but that would be a match made in heaven.
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