What's the worst handling car in GT6?

The Auto Union is pretty bad in my opinion, especially at high speeds. It just feels so inconsistent.
I've seen some people drive it pretty well, but I'm no good at tuning, nor do I have a wheel. Heck, I don't even use the analog sticks to steer. lol
 
I would add the Lexus GS300 to the list. I just re-tuned it this morning, and its not completely horrible. However, its not happy whatsoever even close to the limit and rewards you with some delicious vibrating, tire-shaking loss of grip when pushed hard. Setting up the LSD is tough too. It would be good if there was a "luxury car cup", but as far as F/R turbo 90's japanese cars, there are a whole lot better than this. It certainly is not the Aristo I loved in GT2.
 
Auto Union. :yuck: If you really have too much credits, want to throw them by the window and are kind of a masochist, just buy one and try it by yourself.

I can't imagine anything worth than that. Beautiful, I agree, historical and bla bla bla.. but definitely useless, painful, disappointing.👎
 
I'd say the Chaparral 2D is a bit of a pig compared to the more popular 2J. I've only driven it a few times, but it hates accelerating through turns for some reason.

Edit: And I am a big Chaparral fan...Not sure if that has any relevance.
 
The Stratos (road version) is a female dog to drive... it's fine with corners, but bends are near impossible. It would be easier if it had the huge wide rear wheels you often see fitted (option or aftermarket). So to counter the lack of rear tyre width/traction I use mixed compounds (front harder(RH or SH), rear softer(RS or SS)). This (and a few hours of suspension/ballast/differential tuning) has tamed what is one of my most loved cars since my Matchbox days.
 
The Stratos (road version) is a female dog to drive... it's fine with corners, but bends are near impossible. It would be easier if it had the huge wide rear wheels you often see fitted (option or aftermarket). So to counter the lack of rear tyre width/traction I use mixed compounds (front harder(RH or SH), rear softer(RS or SS)). This (and a few hours of suspension/ballast/differential tuning) has tamed what is one of my most loved cars since my Matchbox days.
I completely understand your reasoning behind using mixed compounds with the Stratos, but I think using Racing Soft tires in the rear is overkill. In my experiences, RS tires are just way too grippy - completely unrealistically grippy.
 
So, I'm guessing you've driven each and everyone of these cars? Exactly.

Oh been offline for some days.. Just saw Your reply...Nah I didn`t drive all those cars IRL lol.. I just can`t imagine anyone would create a car thats more or less undriveable. Also; the authorities will have to concider safety on our roads. Not sure if "the ministry of transportation" or what it´s called, would give green light to something that dangerous...

OK this has nothing to do with the Diablo, but I once read a "buyers guide" or whatever it was called, to potential buyers of used Porsche 911`s. Don`t recall his name, think he was American. He was 911 expert, and had owned a tonne of those. he said this: The 911 can be driven fast and safe by anyone holding a drivers license. The reputation about "the rear end of a 911 will overtake You" - is pure bar stool nonsense...I believe him...

I have only been driving slow going standard cars IRL, and it was veeeery easy...Even in the good ols days before ABS came into play, I drove those old cars, and blocking the front brakes takes about all of the power in Your leg. It´s very hard to do actually. In GT6 it`s allmost impossible NOT to block the brakes if You don`t use ABS..So everything is over-over exagerrated in GT6 - including the rear end of a RUF and the beastyness of a Diablo etc etc...Hey did You drive all those cars IRL? Not? OK this means that none of us really can tell what`s right and wrong...:cheers:
 
probably said before, but the lancia delta is one of them
i'm so angry about that
monday, i had mine back and so drove it a little
it was so good almost an extasy
in game, it's .... so crap
 
Sorry completionists, there will probably be very few people anywhere who can truly master all cars in the game in stock / default condition.
 
The stock Stratos is veeeery wild indeed. Tamed by Praiano, it's a lot safer and fun:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...bull-x2014-junior.291084/page-62#post-9406272

Sorry completionists, there will probably be very few people anywhere who can truly master all cars in the game in stock / default condition.

even with racing setup and a good driver
as an exemple for the stratos
drove by one of the italian legend rally drivers in a car he drove in the past
see Sandro Munari in action with the stratos
 
^ That guy can drive? Looks like he doesn't even know how to k-turn properly. Maybe he's just upset that he spun.

Best I've done in a Stratos, stock on CH tires at Laguna Seca:

1:52.508 - 410 - Lancia Stratos '73

Now I want to drive it again, even though it is a pain in my butt.
 
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Anything if it's on Bathurst.
I mean, I could say the Merc VGT Racing is the worst handling, but I've only driven it on Bathurst and that can make both a GT-R and a Huayra feel impossible. On a better track, they aren't.
 
Worst-handling stock FF car on CH tires:

Acura CL 3.2 Type S

I always thought the '95 Mitsubishi Eclispe was a bad handling car on CH's. ;)

I admit the CL is a good candidate for worst handling FF, but I could argue that wasn't its main purpose as its a cheap luxury GT car where's the Eclispe is more sporty going from the out set but doesn't handle like you would expect.
 
^ That guy can drive? Looks like he doesn't even know how to k-turn properly. Maybe he's just upset that he spun.

Best I've done in a Stratos, stock on CH tires at Laguna Seca:

1:52.508 - 410 - Lancia Stratos '73

Now I want to drive it again, even though it is a pain in my butt.
Looks like it was fitted with a racing steering rack, the front wheels can't rotate enough to do a three point turn (although I'm surprised he didn't just light up the rear tyres and spin it round) :lol:

Anything if it's on Bathurst.
I mean, I could say the Merc VGT Racing is the worst handling, but I've only driven it on Bathurst and that can make both a GT-R and a Huayra feel impossible. On a better track, they aren't.
Don't know what it is about Bathurst, it always seems to bring the worst out in any car or setup. If I had to guess I'd say that the track has much less grip due to being a notoriously dusty street circuit
 
Sorry completionists, there will probably be very few people anywhere who can truly master all cars in the game in stock / default condition.
I agree with you. However, there is one GTPlanet member that I am aware of who drives a buttload of the cars in the game and while I'm sure he's not the "best" GT6 driver in the world, one thing that I think most of us agree with, he is extremely consistent. That person is @SuzukaStar. He spends an obscene amount of time testing massive amounts of cars to the best of HIS ability. Sure, there are probably many people who can drive a little bit faster than he can - there is ALWAYS someone out there who is faster - but I believe he has proven his consistency and I trust him when he says he puts in 100% effort, doing lap after lap after lap, to provide an accurate reference guide of the various cars in the game. He is a maniac for what he does, and I love him for that... :D I can't even imagine the amount of hours he has put into his logging of lap times for very little glory - just the love of the game and the desire to share the information with fellow GTPlanet members. 👍
 
Don't know what it is about Bathurst, it always seems to bring the worst out in any car or setup. If I had to guess I'd say that the track has much less grip due to being a notoriously dusty street circuit
Top Gear Test Track had the same problem in GT5. The HKS CT230R in particular suffered there but even stuff normally as innocent as the HPA TT became undriveable there.
 
I always thought the '95 Mitsubishi Eclispe was a bad handling car on CH's. ;)

I admit the CL is a good candidate for worst handling FF, but I could argue that wasn't its main purpose as its a cheap luxury GT car where's the Eclispe is more sporty going from the out set but doesn't handle like you would expect.

Taurus SHO understeers pathetically.
 
Bathurst is one of my favorite track for just track day, cruising or racing against AI in the rain :P Don't know why, but it always a joy to drive Italian sports car there, like Cizeta V16T or Diablo GT :D


Lamborghini Diablo GT'00, Bathurst, Comfort Medium, 2:24.678


Gotta love hitting Conrod at over 290kmh or climbing then going down the hill with a Diablo - would love to do it IRL, without the pesky speed cameras or unmarked patrol cars waiting to give over 200kmh speeding tickets :lol:
 
Bathurst is one of my favorite track for just track day, cruising or racing against AI in the rain :P Don't know why, but it always a joy to drive Italian sports car there, like Cizeta V16T or Diablo GT :D


Lamborghini Diablo GT'00, Bathurst, Comfort Medium, 2:24.678


Gotta love hitting Conrod at over 290kmh or climbing then going down the hill with a Diablo - would love to do it IRL, without the pesky speed cameras or unmarked patrol cars waiting to give over 200kmh speeding tickets :lol:
I know you must have been mistaken when you said it's a joy to drive the Cizeta V16T!! :D :lol: Ugh...That's one car I just stay away from. God bless ya for being able to drive like that on Comfort Medium tires. I really need to just suck it up and start driving with the "correct" tire compound on my rides, but then I get frustrated and I just wanna have fun, so I go back to the SH & SS compounds. :guilty: :( I know it's just a matter of having some patience and not just mashing the throttle, but I spend more time off the track then on when I drop below the CS compound. :yuck:

Anyway, I spent yesterday having a Lamborghini Track Day at Grand Valley Speedway. Oh, it was so much fun driving that Diablo GT. It had been a long time since I really put a lot of time into that car and I must have improved in my GT6 driving skills because I don't remember it being as stable as it was, in stock formation. (All cars were stock)
 
I know you must have been mistaken when you said it's a joy to drive the Cizeta V16T!! :D :lol: Ugh...That's one car I just stay away from. God bless ya for being able to drive like that on Comfort Medium tires. I really need to just suck it up and start driving with the "correct" tire compound on my rides, but then I get frustrated and I just wanna have fun, so I go back to the SH & SS compounds. :guilty: :( I know it's just a matter of having some patience and not just mashing the throttle, but I spend more time off the track then on when I drop below the CS compound. :yuck:

Anyway, I spent yesterday having a Lamborghini Track Day at Grand Valley Speedway. Oh, it was so much fun driving that Diablo GT. It had been a long time since I really put a lot of time into that car and I must have improved in my GT6 driving skills because I don't remember it being as stable as it was, in stock formation. (All cars were stock)

The video was done back in early GT6 days, may have been 1.0 - back in December 2013 :P It didn't have the high toe value of stock suspension like now and camber was :banghead:. The car was stock by the way, only removed the rear wing as I prefer cleaner looking rear end. I was surprised with the amount of lateral grip it had on CM tire, as you can see it can corner at quite high speed on most corners, which IRL would be a nerve wracking experience- the Reid Park, Sulman Park, McPhilllamy Park ( at over 150kmh ) and Brock's Skyline ( around 120kmh ), through the Esses .. then take the last left turn ( Forrest's Elbow ) at close to 80kmh :eek: before full throttle to Conrod straight.

Don't underestimate comfort medium, in the rain/wet surface, it can grip quite well, try 20-30% water with a stock Cizeta V16 at Bathurst and make the water level constant. Try race with AI at medium, it's fun, really fun and should be a lot more stable now with all cars having 0.60 rear toe :lol:
 
Impressive job 👍 We can see you struggling with the beast. Definitely a pilot's car. :)

Thanks :) The hardest part is to keep control of myself of not overdoing the car when braking or throttling out of corner. It demands patience and to know what's the limit that the car / tire can handle, then stay on that thin line. We often expect much higher than what the car can actually do, it's good to imagine/visualize what sort of speed the car could do IRL when fitted with certain tires. When we expect a car to be balanced, well mannered and easy to push at the limit, then we may have forgot that there's no such thing IRL, all cars requires attention, patience and driving time to know it's intricacies, it's weakness and it's forte.

When we drive RR cars, we should respect it and treat it like a car with big weight at the rear end, then make use of the abundant traction it has. Drive a FF car, then make sure don't push the front wheels beyond it's meager limit compared to other layout. The front wheel needs to steer and pull forward, add to that, the front heavy balance :) Some cars prefer earlier braking, some prefer late exit, some can easily be thrown around and be stable ( AWD like GTR )

I have seen a lot of real cars ( stock sports car ) being pushed hard at the track, and they all usually have either understeer or brake fade. Most road cars are designed to understeer to some extent when pushed too hard. Lots of Best Motoring videos with pro drivers commenting on their experience while driving / racing stock or tuned cars at the track often comes to understeer ( entry or exit ), soft chassis, unstable mid corner, brake fade ( deeper pedal ) and transmission issues-clutch slip / tire not hot enough due to cold track temp or just not enough grip due to tire brand/model fitted.

If GT can come to that level, then we are one step closer to real simulator :D
 
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