Gran Turismo 5 2.03 Update, New Seasonal Events Now Available

January 16th, 2012 by Jordan Greer

The latest Gran Turismo 5 update, version 2.03, weighs in at 225MB and is currently going live around the world. 2.03’s new features were leaked, but have now been officially confirmed by Polyphony Digital:

  • 12 new My Home theme colors and 12 new wallpapers for [GT Mode] have been added to the game. Please find these from the [My Home Settings]-[My Home Design] menu on the left side of the screen.
  • Tire wear speed prediction has been added to the pit stop decisions in B-Spec, to prevent tires from wearing out completely during long races.
  • Regenerative braking (which recovers energy by converting kinetic energy into electricity) in electric cars have been made stronger to extend driving distance.
  • Electric cars will now also creep forward (as in standard automatic cars) when the brake is released without pressing the accelerator.
  • Regarding the Chaparral 2J race car’s performance points, the increased performance factor due to the downforce produced by the fan is now calculated.
  • A issue has been corrected where the car would pit in unintentionally during the last lap of a B spec race.

GT5‘s “Car Pack 3” and “Speed Test Course Pack” DLC will become available in the PlayStation Store on January 17th, according to the latest announcement. Here’s a look at the detailed statistics for each new vehicle, thanks to GTPlanet member “EliteDreamer”:

  • Nissan Leaf G ’11 / 40,600 Credits / 107 HP / 1520 KG / 333 PP
  • Mini Cooper S Countryman ’11 / 34,500 Credits / 181 HP / 1310 KG / 390 PP
  • Jaguar XJR-9 LM Race Car ’88 / 4,750,00 Credits / 749 HP / 894 KG / 709 PP
  • Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 ’11 / 400,000 Credits / 690 HP / 1575 KG / 583 PP
  • Volkswagen 1200 ’66 / 60,000 Credits / 33 HP / 1160 KG / 216 PP
  • Aston Martin V12 Vantage ’10 / 217,350 Credits / 509 HP / 1680 KG / 521 PP

New Seasonal Events have also become available, which include the following races:

  • 400PP Rome City / 3 Laps
    1st: Cr.185,600  2nd: Cr.113,000  3rd: Cr.99,300
  • 500PP Tokyo Route 246 / 3 Laps
    1st: Cr.303,000  2nd: Cr.184,200  3rd: Cr.161,800
  • 650PP Madrid City / 5 Laps
    1st: Cr.427,200  2nd: Cr.260,000  3rd: Cr.228,500
Finally, the game’s Online Car Dealership has been updated; a complete list of the new selection of cars can be found here in our forums, courtesy of “Blitz24”.

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  1. Jan. 17, 6:13am

    And finally, some space, enough for a HUGE Drag Race (and not needing to turn even an inch)

  2. Jan. 17, 6:12am

    Since the Jag has been Updated to a premium, we won’t be able to drive the Normal Standard one ?

    • Jan. 17, 6:34am

      Why wouldn’t you be able to drive standard? There are standard and premium versions of other cars in the game. But more to the point, even if you couldn’t drive the standard car, why would you want to if you had the premium?

  3. Jan. 17, 6:10am

    yes just gone 12am and nz finaly has the update

  4. Jan. 17, 6:08am

    Update is Live now around the Globe. :D

  5. Jan. 17, 6:02am

    DRAG RACE anyone?! Finally a good track and some ok cars lol. Aston Martin I vote drifting Lamborghini may beat some Murcielago’s. Great work. PD keep it up.
    Rich__Wolf out.

  6. Jan. 17, 6:02am

    cant we drive the new cars in ARCADE mode????????????

    • Jan. 17, 6:15am

      We can ..
      After the DLC is up (and bought, ofcourse)

    • Jan. 17, 6:52am

      i have been known to flap my mouth like foghorn leghorn before…..

    • Jan. 18, 12:41am

      Yeah, you can. Add the cars to your Favorites list, and they’ll be available in Arcade mode under the Favorites tab.

  7. Jan. 17, 5:58am

    downloading 2.03 in germany at the moment :)

  8. Jan. 17, 5:57am

    What about de new Acura NSX?

    • Jan. 17, 6:14am

      Hopefully in Spec 3 (next year maybe ? ) Or atleast car pack 5/6 D:

    • Jan. 17, 3:30pm


      WHAT??? NEXT YEAR???
      No, I think the NSX will be in the next Update/DLC… It seems the car has been modeled, It’s just so detailed in how it works that PD didn’t have enough time to finish it before this update/DLC. Possibly a minor update where the online time clock issue gets fixed, possibly the NSX will be free, like the Toyota FT-86… but this is just my speculation.

  9. Jan. 17, 5:56am

    updating now in greece . DLC not available

  10. Jan. 17, 5:52am

    Updates live in nz

  11. Jan. 17, 5:51am

    Got the update here in England, can’t find the new dlc though.

  12. Jan. 17, 5:46am

    Canary islands Spain available too :-)

  13. Jan. 17, 5:40am

    So, Acura NSX? What’s the new PP of the 2J?

    • Jan. 17, 5:42am

      +25PP is what i read in a thread.

  14. Jan. 17, 5:39am

    Norway 11:35 v2.03 Available!
    Look like patch is released for all PAL regions now. :)

    • Jan. 17, 5:43am

      Just available in France too, i guess all western europe has 2.03 now.

    • Jan. 17, 5:56am

      Yup, it’s available in Sweden too

  15. Jan. 17, 5:38am

    Melbourne, Australia has 2.03 now :)

  16. Jan. 17, 5:37am

    I like that the LM jag been upgraded to a premium version although making us pay for it is a little cheeky but such is life, I wonder if this signals the start of more standard being upgraded… personally I would really like to see some DTM cars in full premium glory and I feel since in car view on spec2 all open top standard should be easier to upgrade.

  17. Jan. 17, 5:34am

    I don’t know from where you guys have the info that Europe is getting the 2.03 update on 18-Jan-2012?

    Just for your info: Germany, 17-Jan-2012, 11:30 am here & I am currently downloading the 2.03 patch ;)

  18. Jan. 17, 5:33am

    patch i guess ^^

  19. Jan. 17, 5:32am

    Finally here in Australia!

    • Jan. 17, 5:33am

      DLC or 2.03 Patch?

    • Jan. 17, 5:34am

      2.03 that is, not DLC.

  20. Jan. 17, 5:26am

    They should have fixed the on line racing bug before they did anything else. Also, as someone mentioned above, it’s a bit cheeky re-releasing a car and then charging for it.

    • Jan. 17, 3:24pm

      But now this car is Premium… So better resolution and interior views. And that’s the MOST wanted thing on the Feedback section. If it was the Veyron, I doubt ANYONE would complain.

  21. Jan. 17, 5:13am

    I understand that the DLC will be available for Europe on 18/01/12, but why not 2.03 today? PD has never done a split rolled-out patch before…

  22. Jan. 17, 4:45am

    Can someone who have the patch (and cars available @ dealership), and who previously had the old standard Jaguar version, can tell us if the already owned car has been turned to premium or is still standard in garage ?

    • Jan. 17, 8:29am

      The standard Jaguar is still there, so you’ll have a Std and Prm version of the car.

  23. Jan. 17, 4:33am

    Europeans are still waiting for update. Hopefully it fixes late network issues. I wont buy the DLC i they havent fixed it.

  24. Jan. 17, 4:24am

    The cars are awesome, but I think that putting cars already in the game (e.g XJR-9) into a DLC Pack sounds cheap. But the Aston Martin and Lamborghini make up to it!

    • Jan. 17, 4:32am

      Swings and roundabouts…If this is the way we get desirable standard cars into premium cars, I can live with that, lets face it, we’ve been given premiums for free with past updates

  25. Jan. 17, 4:20am

    I don’t understand why the 2.03 patch is not available in Europe. I am avare that the DLC is scheduled for 18th in Europe, but that doesn’t explain why the patch isn’t rolled out worldwide ATM.

    • Jan. 17, 4:25am

      It’s just the way it is, even if it came out on 17th people would still whinge why was it not out on 16th and so on….the update will go live between 3:00-4:00am 18th

    • Jan. 17, 4:31am

      OmniusGT, this is the first time Europe is late on a patch, and I assume a patch should be out everywhere at same time as everyone should run same version for online play.

    • Jan. 17, 5:00am

      OmniusGT, I am not whining about why the DLC or patch isn’t available. I just don’t understand why the patch is rolled out worldwide, after the scheduled maintenance of the servers. You claim that “the update will go live between 3:00-4:00am 18th” Where did you get this information from?

  26. Jan. 17, 4:06am

    Nothing in Spain yet only car dealership and seasonals updated. (that means they are updating the PSN servers maybe only for download the patch)
    But the DLC will be available tomorrow at 5 or 6 pm so…

    • Jan. 17, 4:08am

      In other notes…the cars looks amazing. I love them all.

  27. Jan. 17, 4:06am

    No update yet in UK. Just put GT5 in my PS3 and nothing, online dealership and seasonals have been updated though.

    Checked my data and I’m still at 2.02 so PSN plus hasn’t downloaded it either.

    • Jan. 17, 4:17am

      *sigh* Did you not read my post just above yours? 18th for UK/EU!!!!

    • Jan. 17, 5:10am

      we get updates at the same time as everyone else, because of online play. store is wedensdays usually.

  28. Jan. 17, 4:05am

    People in the EU pal region, did you not read the PSN Blog a week ago? We get the update and DLC on 18th….like we always do with past GT updates (the Wednesday)

    • Jan. 17, 4:10am

      NO, I don’t tend to look at the PS blog site much. alas I really should.

    • Jan. 17, 4:13am

      I do have my system set to auto-d/l & u/p data at 6pm regardless of if the system is on at the time or not (it auto turns on and shuts down) though, so I couldn’t be sure if it did a stealth patch;I click through the window saying what has happened :)

  29. Jan. 17, 4:00am

    Hey guys, I’m 7 hours into LeMans 24h A-Spec. Can anybody tell me what happens when I apply the update? Will it kill my savegame/progress so far ? Thanks for help :)

    • Jan. 17, 4:03am

      If you save your race and do the update, it shouldn’t have any effect on your progress whatsoever :)

    • Jan. 17, 5:21pm

      Didn’t have any effect on mine, i am 12 hrs into lemans 24hrs on b-spec.
      Switched on ps3, did update then back into game all ok

  30. Jan. 17, 3:57am

    Looks shoped to me.

  31. Jan. 17, 3:55am

    Still siting on 2.2xxxxxxx here in AUD area, and no DLC on our store yet.

    • Jan. 17, 3:58am

      Or is that the 2.03 update, I don’t remember downloading anything unless it did it automatically and I didn’t see it…

  32. Jan. 17, 3:32am

    That Jag is looking very sweet. Nice to see PD are turning some standard cars into premiums at last :)

    Not sure if I’ll get this DLC as I’m not that blown away with a massive oval. Can’t see me ever using it tbh. Shame.

  33. Jan. 17, 3:32am

    DAT ASSTON! *bites lip*

  34. Jan. 17, 3:31am

    Wow. Those DLC cars look amazing in the dealership, I can’t wait to get behind the wheel of one of them. The Aston looks great and has a lot of interesting color options. The jag race car is just an absolute stunner. The colors, the modeling, that jag is the perfect candidate for premium modeling. Now just if I could do a Photoshoot with all of my lm racecars….
    Lastly, the Aventador is just awesome. Watching the demo I am very happy with the way it turned out. The cars movements look very realistic and with the moveable wing, that thing is just glued to the track even over the bumps of the Mt. Aso course generator track. I can’t wait to see what it can do on the nurburgring! I also can’t wait to see the tuning options, body kits, and wheels for the car! I am definitely going to have to empty my bank account and buy this cut in multiple colors…

    • Jan. 17, 5:48am

      Do the Online B-Spec Seasonal race. I did it for like 5 hours and I’m sitting at 20 million.

  35. Jan. 17, 3:20am

    Yes. it’s available in online, too

  36. Jan. 17, 3:17am

    Is the new track available in the lobby for online races ? Thanks .. Waiting in italy.

  37. Jan. 17, 3:02am

    still no update in oz :(

  38. Jan. 17, 2:56am

    Anyone else in the UK still waiting on the update?

    • Jan. 17, 2:59am

      MightyJordan- me too!!

    • Jan. 17, 3:30am

      simple my friend…
      u never drove the car before.
      the engine gets stronger a bit to a serveral point when u use it

  39. Jan. 17, 2:53am

    I just raced the 650PP race in a car I detuned to 650PP raced the race, won the race, then flashed a message saying regulations not met… I’m sorry? I’ve just driven a race in it! turns out during the race it had gained 1 PP haha how I dont know!

    • Jan. 17, 5:51am

      It gains HP when you drive conservatively without banging it off the rev limiter. My Minolta is up to 1040HP

  40. Jan. 17, 2:51am
    UK Racer x

    Has anyone got any details on which countries do or dont have the update?

  41. Jan. 17, 2:39am

    Anyone else slightly ticked that it’s not the All4 Countryman?

  42. Jan. 17, 2:15am

    Awesome New Lambo, Jag, Aston. Can’t Wait!!!

  43. Jan. 17, 2:01am

    haven`t go it in the uk yet

  44. Jan. 17, 1:48am

    Woo!!! I’m firing up my PS3 first thing in the morning. That should give PD time to finish the maintenance and for PS store to update. Sitting at 8 mil right now. Hello lambo aventador and online dealer.
    New seasonal events cash in at 427,000. Cash cow anyone? Madrid is a short track, and at 650 pp, my RX-7 TC will smoke the competition.

    • Jan. 17, 1:52am

      The Madrid race is fun, Ford GT jumps out fast and doesn’t make mistakes. The money and exp are excellent!

  45. Jan. 17, 1:46am


  46. Jan. 17, 1:46am

    Nothing in UK yet :-(

    • Jan. 17, 2:54am

      That’s cause our DLC isn’t up till tomorrow for some reason

  47. Jan. 17, 1:45am

    I think that the great problem are flags in online profiles. Europe is very complicated on the national issues,for example: German don’t like English (same way back) , Austrian don’t like Slovenian,German don’t like Austrian and so on….
    I experienced many times to be kicked out when entering the room. I have very good internet connection and I am very fair driver. During the GT4 and GT Prologue I had more satisfaction driving online than today. Sometimes it lasts even an hour to find a room where they drive correct and where is no issue where are you coming from. My question is: when are you planing new update,where there will be an option to choose between a flag or some other picture in avatar?
    Kind regards

    • Jan. 17, 1:50am

      Yeah… I’m from the U.S., andyou just don’t want to know what the Canadians have to deal with… Sometimes its hilarious, sometimes its just stupid racism. Seriously, I don’t understand the hatred for Canadians in the U.S.

    • Jan. 17, 2:16am

      I’m Canadian and can agree with both post’s, I’ve been booted out of around 5 US hosted room’s. 3 before I was even loaded in. Saying Canadian’s can’t drive then poof I’m gone…

    • Jan. 17, 2:38am


      Do you have any idea why Americans hate Canadians? I haven’t gotten an answer from an American, and I don’t personally know any Canadians, and therefore haven’t asked any.

    • Jan. 17, 2:44am

      Canadians can’t drive eh? Well we will have to do something aboot that.
      Haha it’s just stupid. I’ve never been kicked out of a room because of my American flag, just some Australians asked me to leave the room once because they claimed I’d slow the rooms internet speed down. Heck I’ve gone to German hosted rooms and intentionally used to KubelWagen and SchwimWagen. No kicking, they just ignore me on track.

      What I’d recommend is to go to rooms that are race for real will all driving aids off. Those people don’t care about flags, just pure racing. Now if you’re already doing that and still getting kicked they unfortunately you might just be unlucky.

      P.S Canadian women are hawt!

    • Jan. 17, 3:01am

      Its funny, I’m 125 miles south of Canada… Is that why I have no problem with Canadians?

    • Jan. 17, 4:14am
      GTP Sifer

      Yeah same here, i’m from venezuela, but there’s not a venezuelan flag when you’re registering in psn.. so i took the spanish flag, sometimes i get kicked because some morons think i’m from spain where they constantly get issues about connection.. so yeah, but the piont is, if i’m from venezuela, i’m in the american server, it’s the same as the one in USA, THE SAME.

    • Jan. 17, 8:31am

      Why would the Austrians not like the Slovenians… More likely the Slovenians don’t like the Austrians…

  48. Jan. 17, 1:08am

    its live here in ny :)

    • Jan. 17, 1:19am

      Update or DLC?

    • Jan. 17, 1:24am

      Just the update.

  49. Jan. 17, 1:06am

    In the 2.03 update informations(Blue i button) it says DLC will be available from january 18th.(North America)

    • Jan. 17, 1:17am

      YES! That will give me time to get a PSN card and not get laughed at for not getting it the day it came out!

      PLUS, it may be a snow day for my school. But I’ll be sledding if that is so… :)

  50. Jan. 17, 1:06am

    No update in UK as of 06.05 GMT :(

  51. Jan. 17, 1:05am

    Bah nothing here yet, curse you misleading article title!

  52. Jan. 17, 1:03am

    This is so stupid why even post this if the DLC is not even out yet pssshh idiots

    • Jan. 17, 1:15am

      It doesn’t say ANYTHING about the DLC being out yet, it only says update 2.03 and some new events are out. And the update is out in only certain places right now, as usual. It will probably be out everywhere in a few hours.

  53. Jan. 17, 12:57am

    they fixed the frame skipping bug when you turned =D

    • Jan. 17, 7:14pm

      no, they didnt; I’m pretty pissed about that….

  54. Jan. 17, 12:52am

    When exactly is the DLC released?

  55. Jan. 17, 12:49am

    I NEVER knew the Beetle came with Dual Exhaust lol!!!

  56. Jan. 17, 12:48am

    does anybody know if you have bought the DLC1 and if you buy the DLC2 AND DLC3 you get the TOYOTA FT86 CONCEPT 2 without buying the paint pack?????????????????

    • Jan. 17, 4:18pm

      the ft86 concept 2 can be traded, i got mine from a friend.

  57. Jan. 17, 12:48am
    King Something

    I’m guessing that the DLC won’t be up until 1700 EST (5PM Eastern/4 Central/3 Mountain/2Pacific) in the US.

  58. Jan. 17, 12:38am

    Jeejjjj route X has can be driven at night to :D

  59. Jan. 17, 12:38am

    My PSN has been down since like last week. :(

  60. Jan. 17, 12:33am

    Everything working fine in Brazil!

  61. Jan. 17, 12:32am

    Oh what, I just bought the ‘standard’ version of that Jag the other day… :p

  62. Jan. 17, 12:31am

    nobody knows when it comes to europe update?

  63. Jan. 17, 12:31am

    Looks like the update is not available in Europe yet .

  64. Jan. 17, 12:27am

    No Patch in Germany……….

  65. Jan. 17, 12:26am

    If you all were wondering what the track looks like, there’s a map of it on the Gran Turismo site. Its a gigantic oval.

  66. Jan. 17, 12:22am

    How it comes that there is no 2.03 update in Russia? Updates dont depend on region.

    • Jan. 17, 12:41am

      Actually, they kinda do… its usually off by a maximum of an hour or two… It could be out by the time I’m done typing this…

  67. Jan. 17, 12:22am

    I need to get another PSN card.


    I’m ready to get that fizzy *ahem* thing that James May gets when he drives a particularly nice car…

  68. Jan. 17, 12:17am

    No not the DLC. But update 2.03 complete

  69. Jan. 17, 12:14am

    Awesome! the Route X track appears to have a pit stop! I’m assuming this actually means it’s raceable!

    …Unless, of course, there is only one pitstop, and we all run out of fuel half-way around the course…

  70. Jan. 17, 12:14am

    Ughhh I hate censored Silk Cut livery! Oh well, can’t win them all.

    • Jan. 17, 10:06am

      true dat, shame almost all the classic motorsport liveries are from cigarrette brands

  71. Jan. 17, 12:11am

    The wing works on the Aventador! The demo mode is about to get played for hours!

    • Jan. 17, 12:22am

      Saw it!

    • Jan. 17, 12:36am

      It’s the first thing I noticed. Mine is doing the demo in Nero Pegaso. I’m buying quite a few of these since I’m sitting at 20 Million.

  72. Jan. 17, 12:09am

    Just feel in love with the Jag… it’s gorgeous!!! :O

  73. Jan. 17, 12:08am

    Canada all good!!

  74. Jan. 17, 12:08am

    I wish you can make your new ’66 Beetle look like Herbie from the movies!

    • Jan. 17, 12:11am

      Lets hope for a livery editor in the near future…

  75. Jan. 17, 12:07am

    it´s the first time this happened . i usually get the update when it comes out :s

  76. Jan. 17, 12:04am

    Finally the Peugeot 905 Race Car on the Online Dealership! The last LM which I’ve been looking for!

    • Jan. 17, 12:12am

      Actually a group C car ;)

    • Jan. 17, 12:15am

      Same here!

  77. Jan. 17, 12:04am


  78. Jan. 17, 12:04am

    still no update is aus.

  79. Jan. 17, 12:03am

    Downloading the Update right now…..12:03 AM haha

  80. Jan. 17, 12:00am

    May I give a friendly reminder to everyone, not to jump on the PlayStation Store all at once and crash the servers like we did with the first pack please?

    I can’t wait for this though.

    • Jan. 17, 9:40am
      No sense

      So how will you police this friendly reminder? How about a raffle? Or drawing straws? … Or or we could give out numbers to everyone and those with an even number go first and those with odd go second. Yes that will work..

    • Jan. 17, 10:54am

      hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!….made my day dude!

  81. Jan. 16, 11:59pm

    Hey guys i hava a problem . I restarted my ps like 5 times and started the game , and the game don´t download the new update . I don´t understand why . Please help me with this .

    • Jan. 17, 12:02am
      Ben Rogue

      The update takes a while to become available on some PSN servers. Even though the PD servers were “under maintenance” your PSN servers might not have been updated yet, it depends on where you live. In New Zealand and Australia we usually get the update and DLC the next day X(

    • Jan. 17, 12:07am

      It probably isn’t out in your region yet, just be patient and wait. I wouldn’t imagine restarting your system would do anything about the update, but doing it over and over again is probably not very good for it…

  82. Jan. 16, 11:58pm

    On it!

    • Jan. 16, 11:58pm

      On it as in you got the pack?

  83. Jan. 16, 11:58pm


  84. Jan. 16, 11:57pm

    No NSX… Wth…

    • Jan. 17, 12:00am


  85. Jan. 16, 11:57pm

    Nice update… Just waiting for the DLC! The cars look amazing! Aventador got about 3 matte colors! *_*

  86. Jan. 16, 11:57pm

    Vantage looks smexy in white and in demo mode :)

  87. Jan. 16, 11:56pm

    Nothing in UK yet.

    • Jan. 17, 12:49am

      New seasonals only in uk, so don’t go jumping out of bed just yet (like I did :()

  88. Jan. 16, 11:55pm

    Hope to have some time tomorrow night to download all this madness!!

  89. Jan. 16, 11:55pm

    Downloading now, get the DLC in the morning I guess

  90. Jan. 16, 11:54pm


  91. Jan. 16, 11:53pm

    There will be some kind of “bundle pack” with this new DLC?

    • Jan. 17, 12:10am

      I hope so… right now I only just have enough for the Route X DLC, and a bundle would probably allow me to just get a $5 PSN card instead of a $10 card…

  92. Jan. 16, 11:52pm

    no update in Portugal.
    Only the new events.

  93. Jan. 16, 11:51pm

    Let’s hope it’s here later tonight!

  94. Jan. 16, 11:49pm
    Madman Apex

    time for some fun!!!

  95. Jan. 16, 11:49pm

    WOHHOOO! nothing in oz yet :(

  96. Jan. 16, 11:49pm


  97. Jan. 16, 11:49pm

    oh yes!!!!!

  98. Jan. 16, 11:48pm


  99. Jan. 16, 11:45pm

    nothing in oz yet

    • Jan. 16, 11:56pm

      Cool thanks

    • Jan. 17, 12:12am

      Oz has the seasonal and updated online car dealer but that is all

    • Jan. 17, 6:07am

      It is now apparent the 2.03 update for Australia is live

  100. Jan. 16, 11:45pm

    DLC is out TOMORROW. Update is live though! Woo!

    • Jan. 16, 11:46pm

      Hint: Go to the dealership and “demo” any of the new cars ;)

    • Jan. 16, 11:51pm

      Yea. Excited. :)

    • Jan. 17, 12:36am


    • Jan. 17, 2:05am

      2J downforce calculated?


    • Jan. 17, 8:18am

      So they’re charging money for premium versions of standard cars that are already in the game now? I thought it was said a while ago that they would be converting all standards to premium, and that DLC would be for NEW cars. What a ****ing rip off, and sadly, people vote with their dollars and too many people are voting that this is acceptable.

    • Jan. 17, 8:37am

      @captainzib Hey, could be sony behind that idea… So, yeaaaaaaah….

    • Jan. 17, 8:38am

      Oh and btw, the standard cars are still in GT5, so these ones are pure new…

    • Jan. 17, 9:52am

      “Pure new”? A higher polygon count of existing cars does not qualify as such.

      I don’t understand why people who like a game, are so quick to defend a developer/publisher for doing things that are not pro-consumer.

      I like this game, but I don’t like what PD/Sony are doing with it.

      There was no excuse to have standard cars, period. They should have all been premium. And to those who say there are over a thousand cars, there aren’t. Too many are re-skins of the same car. Miata, Skyline, etc. Also, we don’t really need standard versions of cars that are available as premiums from the beginning.

      They charge money for premium car updates to standards, they charge for paint chips, (compare this game’s paint chips for real world money, to the livery editor in Forza or many other racing games and tell me it’s not a complete joke. They could at least just give us a color palette to paint our cars with if they don’t want to give us a livery editor), they charge money for a high speed test track when EVERY GT game prior had one.

      They’re going to continue charging money for this stuff as long as people keep paying.

      I’m not some hater, or at least I don’t want to be written off as one. I think this game does a lot of things right. I simply believe that there is no good excuse for the things it does wrong.

    • Jan. 17, 10:08am

      But I wasn’t defending, I was just sharing my opinion on the car…

    • Jan. 17, 10:22am

      Thing is the DLC with the premium cars is great for people like me who have not had the best luck in getting some of the best cars in the game from tickets and coupons and what not. I agree that all cars should be Premium and if that means they are converting cars that I did not have to begin with but releasing them in DLC form as a Premium car I am ok with that! DLC is an optional purchase…it’s not required so people stop complaining please!

    • Jan. 17, 1:15pm


      You do realize that PD was rebuilding their physics engine, and I believe (I’m not actually sure about the servers) reworking and building new servers for GT5? This i why it took so long to make the game. It left less time for making cars, therefore the Premium and Standard cars came about. Probably all of the tracks would have day/night and weather change, and would be SO much higher in resolution. Look at Trial Mountain – some parts look like GT2 or GT3. To add to this, Kaz stated HIMSELF that he wanted to have an extra 2 years with the game. GT5 may have had more and higher detailed cars AND tracks, and PROBABLY no Standard cars if the game was given more time.

      Something that would please you, captainzib, is for PD or Sony to split car packs up so you can buy what ever cars you want, because OBVIOUSLY, the Jag is giving you issues. Even better; you could assemble your own pack of DLC cars; you could pick a certain number of cars for a pack, and have a static price for a set value.

    • Jan. 17, 1:28pm

      Not to mention that it took 6 months to make a single premium car while it only took weeks to make standard vehicles. I for one don’t really care to much about the premium vs. standard. We still have at least 900 different vehicles. Estimate about 100 for the same models.

    • Jan. 17, 1:32pm

      If you aren’t a troll than you sure don’t know much about the game.
      – paint chips- sure, there was a $2 pack of 100, but the game also gives you paint chips for just about everything.
      – standard to premium – the jag is the first one. Stop acting like this is just how it works.
      – standard cars in general- yes, we all dislike the standard cars, but do you have any freaking clue how long it takes to create a premium car? Last I read it was 6 months of work for a programmer. They didn’t have 10 years to make this game, they had 6, and most of that was spent building a whole new game from the ground up.
      Sure, there are things that bug just about everybody about this game, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s the best console racer out there and we are given unbelievable support by PD, so quit your whining and go race.

    • Jan. 17, 3:03pm


      That was well stated. I wanted to add more, but didn’t have time; and you summed it up better. :)

    • Jan. 17, 3:10pm

      @ Mattycakes

      WOW! You really don’t know what you are talking about regarding game asset creation. I work in the game industry and if I ever, EVER took six months to create a single asset I would be fired on the spot. First of all programmers don’t create 3D assets, 3D artists do. We put all our programmers in a dark room and don’t let them see sunlight until there are no bugs in a game.

      To create a “Premium” car would take me about 4-6 weeks to complete and that’s only because I don’t regularly create cars. The PD crew is very experienced so it would likely take them even less time.

      Regarding paint chips, I don’t love the current system but it’s not too bad. What they should do is let you keep the paint chip after you use it, ESPECIALLY for the ones you pay for with real money. Once you have the color it should be yours forever.

      All cars should have been premium from the start no excuses. And the tracks OMG, when I first saw them back in 11/11 I was shocked when I saw Trial Mountain, Laguna Seca, Sarthe and many others. As a 3D artist I know it doesn’t take much to tilt a tree just ever so slightly just so it does not look like the other trees and they could not even do that.

      Listen fanboy, just because captainzib, myself and others critique the game does not mean we don’t like it. I play the game day and night, and have 3 accounts going so I really play this game a lot but because of that I see a lot of faults and I think its productive to offer critiques to improve the game for everyone including you. if it was up to the fanboys we would still be playing the first GT.

      PD has done a lot of good things but they should not charge us for cars that should have been premium in the first place. captainzib is right when he says: ” They’re going to continue charging money for this stuff as long as people keep paying.”

      So quit acting like a know it all Mattycakes, and let us improve the game.

    • Jan. 17, 3:25pm

      Seriously people? Every post is the same thing. “Same cars, update is lame, DLC sucks, blah blah blah” or “Best thing ever, I love PD, Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean everyone else shoudln’t blah blah blah.”

      Just enjoy the game ! No one is forcing you to do anything, PD never “forced” you to buy GT5, no one is “forcing” you to buy the DLC. It’s not that hard.

    • Jan. 17, 3:40pm

      Totally agree with captain zib, 1000000000%. Great game, not the best consumer tactics. I’m skipping this new upgrade altogether.

    • Jan. 17, 4:07pm


      I never stated I was an expert, I said very clearly it was just what I read. And maybe it takes so much longer for them to do a car than you because you do all they do for each car. It’s not just pixels after all. Kaz stated himself a while back he didn’t like having to make so many cars standard, so I’m quite sure they have good reasons. But to be honest, neither of us can say much because we had nothing to do with the game, so please don’t act so high and mighty simply because you work in the industry. Now let’s get back to talking about how awesome half these cars will be, or more if you really love VW bugs :P

    • Jan. 17, 4:39pm


      guess what i know something about it… :)

      3 – 4 weeks for a 3D model.. ok and..

      how about create time on physics? get all rights for the car creation, then all the paperwork… , how about cars weight, center of gravity, HP (recreate engine work) RPM, intake etc.., recreate aerodynamics for a car sounds like a month of work to me since there is no real air in digital world…… then test the whole car, tweak it, then test it again… Im sure there is alot of work to do to create a car.. Real cars are made for 1 – 5 years… I think 6 months for Digital recreation of it is OK. If you take in mind all tiny bits.. so programming and 3D models isnt the end of the car.. every single premium car in GT5 acts like no other, I tryed it with my g27 I can say for sure, and I have big interests in real cars and own one.. I have my opinion on this one..

    • Jan. 17, 4:40pm

      @Mattycakes very well said. :)

    • Jan. 17, 4:42pm

      @Tvensky Well said too. :)

    • Jan. 17, 4:50pm

      and even if PD is lying (and I think they dont) PD’s 3D premium model cars are so esquisit quality pure awesomess, never saw so much details in any other game.. including cockpits and they are done exelent (it takes insane amount of time) I did work with 3D models (if I create something that does not exist in real world then its easy and fast, but if you have to recreate 3D objects from real world, just imagine how much measures you would neet to take, INSANE amount of time, to measure every little tiny button and bits and then put it all together), and even if PD needs 3 months to create a car, thats only 4 cars a year for a person… if PD have 20 people who works on 3D models than it would take 80 cars a year, 6 years 480 cars.. and then how about tracks and all other stuff they work on… it all comes together when you think about it.

    • Jan. 17, 4:58pm

      Funny bit -> lol , I think I just guessed how much 3D modelers PD have… I sayd 3 months on car, 20 persons, 6 years 480 cars…

      so if its 6 months on car, 20 persons, 6 years 240 cars… :) just about what GT5 have… lol

    • Jan. 17, 5:04pm

      Yahoo nice one Tvensky. :) “High fives Tvensky then thumbs up”

    • Jan. 17, 5:53pm

      Guess what tvensky, you don’t know enough : ) Since you claim you worked creating 3D models you should know 6 weeks is more than enough time to create a full high-poly model including cockpit with full UV maps and shadow maps. In any real studio (like PD) the rest is done by individual departments. Once they got the game engine physics figured out (which they did a great job at) it’s incredibly easy to enter all the data you speak about. It’s really a matter of tweaking the settings, HELL I DO IT EVERY DAY WHEN I TUNE MY CAR FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL COURSE I DRIVE < (sorry caps got stuck). For a professional studio is HIGHLY unlikely they would spend 6 months on one asset. BTW PD never said they spent six months on a car.

      But that’s not the point, my point is constructive criticism is healthy towards improving a product made by people that purchase the product is completely ok. People should not be shunned just because they speak out for something they purchased. I like the DLC, just want them to be better. Everyone benefits from a better GT5, including you.

    • Jan. 17, 6:24pm

      @mando074 That’s true, but you have to consider that PD has to tell the game what each individual setup adjustment does and how it affects the car. This is what facilitates you being able to adjust it in-game. Especially when you consider that different adjustments affect different cars in different ways, there are probably thousands upon thousands of lines of handling and adjustment data for each car. And the thing about it is, they don’t have any sort of GUI to work with when coding, so they can’t simply adjust a slider to change the strength of the game’s downforce mechanics. If they want to make an adjustment or add a feature to the game’s engine or a car’s handling data, they have to painstakingly code it character by character. I’ve coded before, in both CSS and Visual BASIC. While I don’t have much coding experience at all, I know reasonably well how hard it can be at times.

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