Gran Turismo 5 HD Installation Approximately 10GB in Size

Kazunori Yamauchi has given us a heads-up regarding what to expect from GT5 in terms of hard drive installation size via Twitter (human translation thanks to our own SHIRAKAWA Akira):

If you have at least 256MB it will work, but if you have 10 GB available you will be able to play comfortably.

Most of today’s heftiest games consume at least several GB – by comparison, GT5 Prologue requires about 6GB. Copying data to the system’s internal drive significantly reduces loading times due to the faster rate at which data can be read from HDD into the system’s memory. Yamauchi’s tweet is a little ambiguous on the details regarding exactly how much space you will need, but for the best possible experience, just make sure you’ve got at least 10GB available before November comes along!

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Comments (204)

  1. Digolgrin

    Just this morning I figured out how to make those ten gigs on my stock 40 gig. I freed up a crapload of space, just enough to hit ten gigs, and used GT5 Prologue’s 5.3 gigs as hard drive insurance Before I pop in GT5, whenever I DO get it, since I have school on 11/2 and I rarely actually buy games, just rent them on Fridays (and even THEN, GT5 is probably gonna be so popular I might not get it on the first week of release), I’ll get rid of Prologue’s game data to make 15 (or even 16) gigs, then install and transfer my garage over. Voila! Instant 10 gig GT5 and I have the space I had before. It’s perfectly painless!

  2. GTP_COBRA

    i knew it was goign to be big but damn! i have a 120GB slim think i still have 40gb left ive been waiting close to 4 years got this game now.

    its about time it was here bring it out early lol…

  3. Blitz

    man! my ps3 is 80 gb, good for me, I still have 56 gb of free space,wath I have on my hdd? 6 installed games,many savegames,a demo,10 songs,an three programs on the video player that I can`t delete (animax,BBC and halmark =)) ) and probably a little big problem with the messages,because I get 5-10 messages from unknown persons with “free psn credits” and some from my friends,I think I have 150-200 messages in total

    1. Davide92

      It looks like you might have some overheating problems if you run games directly from the HD (e.g., PSN downloads), as the PS3 is designed to work with a 5400 RPM drive.

  4. pasigiri

    Kind of an off topic question, but has anyone heard anything else about the cars earned in GT PSP being ported to GT5? I know this was brought up long ago, but I hadn’t heard anything else. I know it would have to be a select number of cars … well, to be honest, I wonder how that would work anyway.

  5. Spaghettimonster

    guys, i dont mind if this things eats my harddrive as long as it is there beginning of november. just leave a little space for the last guardian and everything is fine with me. :)

  6. GTP_african_kat

    Hmmm. i needz to get me a portable HD to transfer all my Top Gear episodes.
    Like many people here i bought the PS for GT so 10gig ain’t a problem….Just 2 months more:)

  7. Sigmaviper11

    Since it seems to be the subject and I cant find direct information about it. A. When you swap HDDs, does the original drive get wiped upon removal? B. Does it have any effect on the other systems of the PS3 like reverse compatibility? C. Is there a way to make the PS3 interchangeable in terms of HDD? Yes I can be technologically inept. I have a 60GB PS3 and use its multimedia and reverse compatibility functions on a near daily basis. Hence I’m curious as I’m thinking of bumping up to 500gb. I know it has to be a 2.5in SATA running 5400rpm. I don’t know much else.

    1. NewIronMaidenCDNOW

      A. Mine didn’t (20gb first gen)
      B. No, it’s related to hardware, your console will be like it is right now, just with bigger capacity.
      C. I don’t understand what you mean by that but what I can assure you is that you can plug a usb key in your system, pick up your music, saved games, etc and transfer those to your new hard drive once you’re done removing the original. For that matter, you can also use an SD card since your console has those perks, unlike mine.

      All you need to do is remove the tab on the side of the console (with either your nail or a small flat screwdriver), use a phillips screwdrive to remove the first bolt that holds the HD in place and then just pull the HD out. You then have to bolt your new HD to the socket (it’s held on your original HD by a few screws). Once that is done, slide your brand new HD in there, start your system, transfer the data you copied on your usb key and you’re good to go!

      Up the Irons and also, Iron Maiden’s new cd is awesome \m/
      Enjoy!

    2. Sigmaviper11

      Oh ok. Thank you.
      As for C. I meant is there a kit or something out that makes changing HDs simpler, rather than having to deal with the screws each time you swap. Might be an irrelevant or illogical question but I’d like to know,

    3. Nemesis

      @Sigmaviper11: As far as I know there is no standard way of achieving that with your PS3 but if you’re a bit innovative it should be possible. What you need is an swapable external SATA (eSATA) bay, a eSATA cable and converter from SATA to eSATA.

      Connect the SATA cable and power cable from the PS3 to the SATA to eSATA converter (There are converters with and without a power connector). Connect the swapable eSATA bay to the eSATA converter using a eSATA cable. Now you can plug the disc you want to the system. The PS3 should see your hard drive as a compatible SATA drive. This not gives you the option of swapping your main drive but also provides a way around the overheating issues of old PS3 systems. And it’s possible to use a 3.5 Inch disc (if the PS3 provides the extra power needed).

      NOTE: This should be possible I’ve never testes this myself. If you’ll want to try this first do some research and understand that this might be risky and permanently damage your PS3 especially if not done properly!

      NEVER! swap the disc while the system is running!

    4. pasigiri

      I thinking about updating my PS3’s HDD also and was wondering if I absolutely have to install a 5400 speed HDD. Why not a 7200?

  8. nsnsmj

    Well, I don’t have enough space for 10GBs, but it’s not like the install is required. It’s optional, so 256MBs won’t hurt at all.

  9. zeromobius

    Man all this talk bout installing the game you can feel it’s almost here. The hype is escalating, I can’t wait! Ima play GTPSP while the installation is going on. I’m calling off work Nov 2!

    1. Tim

      Unfornately for me i wont get to play until the 4th of november Damm you Amazon UK !. I not at all suprised by this install , most games average around 2GB to 5GB minium install anyway. My ps3 has still got 44GB free space anyway , ok i am going to lose a little more because I have got a move on pre-order and its only 2 and a bit weeks till i get that.

    1. Yaycandy69

      or delete any other game install data that you have. you install like 5GBs to play a game. then you get bored with the game and will prolly never play it again. just delete the data. put it on your ps3 when you need it

  10. J-KiLLA24

    well i’m getting my new ps3(slim) for cristmas and it’s the 250GB one so i don’t have to worry about free space. Oh and after christmas i’m going to sell my xbox 360.After what happened to my Midnight Club:complete edition, after i accidentally softly kicked my xbox with the cd still inside. I can’t trust microsoft anymore!

  11. Geo_212

    I promise I will faint when it says “installation complete.” Then, when I regain consciousness, I will look at the menu and faint again.

  12. LordVonPS3

    10GB is not much space at all.

    I’d like to install the entire game to the HDD & just use the Blu-ray disc as a “proof-of-purchase key”.

  13. Hentis

    I have a 250 gig HDD on my my machine with a 1/2 terrabyte external ;P but I have about 139 gb left on the PS3 HDD and cock loads on the external. So bring it on :)

    1. Mr Frappy

      I have a 250GB HDD on my machine with 200GB spare, and 6TB of storage courtesy of my NAS in RAID5.

      Your stats are weak, and it beats me why people feel the need to boast!

  14. Jeffree Star

    Yeap same haha too bad the Slim i have cant play any ps2 games:(

    Ill be playing Gears of war 2 while i wait for GT5 to ibstall
    Its gunny how we all plannin the future xD

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    1. Bernd

      I don’t know, maybe it depends on how early after the release you bought MGS4. I got mine last November, so I thought, all the latest updates for online-gaming took time.

  16. tyl0r_r

    my ps3 could take this install ok, but I’m going to uninstall prologue, back up my saves on pc, and practically cut the install of gt5 down to a reasonable 4 gigs.

  17. GTbyPlaystation

    Lol 10GB. Bad idea buying the 40GB Playstation 3 with Gran Turismo Prologue… :P There goes 25% of my Playstation 3 storage space…

  18. Rotard12a

    This actually is quite a demand for my puny 40gb PS3… I went through and added up every single file (took a while) and got a number of 27 gigs but the system said I only had 1.5 gigs free. Pretty sweet.

  19. iamgt5

    hey, 10 gigs is nothing nowadays. my watch probably has more memory than that :)

    and who cares about the wait time for the game to install; it’ll give you a chance to read the manual/collector’s edition material.

  20. neem'

    I wonder what the installation screen will be like? MGS4 had Snake smoking (woo…), Heavy Rain had the origami instructions, I can’t think of any other particularly creative ones.

    1. llllllllllllll

      it’s kool right ?.. i never get bored of installing those games , i installed mgs 4 and heavy rain more then 5 times .. but still like it :P , i know im crazy but i love those games so i don’t mind at all , best games ever are gt5 – mgs 4 and rising … im really bored right now , i don’t have anything to do … but in november gt5 will released in school time -.- , i hate this !! they put the bad games in summer and put the good games in work and school time -.- …

    2. llllllllllllll

      i know he was only smoking but i really get excited to play it so i didn’t care about the loading , every time i see the loading near finishing i get excited xD … i love it , who like installing games ?.. , no one but i was excited to play it everytime , and i still want to play it … if u understand me and u are waiting for gt5 u won’t care about the installing and instead if hating it u will love it , u waiting for it for along time and in one day u get it and u put the disc and get excited like a child xD , it’s all because u were waiting for it , this is an example , u was waiting for a game like mgs 4 or any game and u finally get it and play it and loved it and u’ll rspect all the hard work of what mgs 4 gamemakers made , but if someone just heared about it and bought it he won’t have the same feelings u had because he don’t care about the game , he just want to try it or have fun or just finish it for a trophy or another reason , he will hate the installing . it’s kool if u waiting for something and u always remember it every day and every time u remember it u want it more … this is what i feel .. so im sorry for saying all this crap , i just wanted to say it xD …. lol

    3. Bernd

      I didn’t mean it in a negative way, but I also didn’t expect a 2hr-installing for MGS4, so I was like wotdahell???
      If GT5 takes anywhere that long, I’ll give GT4 a good-bye during the wait

    4. Spaghettimonster

      its hopefully going to be something about automotive or gt history. if it is, the install is going to take a while. :)

  21. TheMasfer

    @Chad.D my 640gb only cost me $60 they are really heap on amazon.com

    By the way it will onl take a long time to install if you only have about 10gb if you have at least 15gb it shouldn’t take too long

  22. DaveTheStalker

    Check Newegg or Amazon for a drive. When I bought my 500 a couple years ago, it was the largest 2.5 SATA (laptop) drive available. Getting a 7200 rpm was s mistake. The PS3 isn’t set up to run with it. Cache differences cause an occasional error message.

    1. Nemesis

      I think you’ve got a an issue with heat. Since the 7200 disc run at higher speeds there is more friction which in turn results in more heat production. Try cleaning the PS3 from dust.

      There is also a mith going around that the PS3 runs 7200 RPM discs at 4500 RPM which impossible unless you have a disc which supports it like a caviar green line.

      I can’t imagine how cache would be an issue since the speed at which a HDD presents data to a system varies at all times this having to do with the fact that retrieving data from the inside of the disc is faster than from the outside of the disc (simple physics) and the on disc cache.

      One thing which could be an issue but has nothing to with the speed of disc but more with the size could be the responce time. The time it takes the HDD to provide data after recieving the request.

  23. Fred

    I didn’t know you can copy BD games to the HDD’s to avoid using the disk, does that mean you can eject the disk, store it and play directly the game as if it were a downloaded demo? Sorry, I don’t have a PS3 anymore, I bought one 2 years ago when GT5P was out, but sold it knowing GT5 would be showing until this year so now I’m broke.

    1. neem'

      You can’t actually copy games, it’s just that most games install a few GB of data to speed up the loading process. Blu Ray drives read much slower than DVD drives (but when you have more than 6 times the data on the same size disc, you expect compromises) so having frequently requested information, things like physics and AI rather than cars or tracks themselves, stored on a faster medium, the game runs faster. The things like cars and tracks are then loaded up when you start a race and stored in the RAM. At least that’s how I understand it.

      So no, you still have to have the disc inserted. After all, what would stop you from installing the game then passing it around your friends?

    2. Bernd

      @neem – Your last sentence explains it perfectly. Even if it were technically possible, they wouldn’t do it, because sales-numbers would drop to a tenth of the actual numbers or so

  24. Chad.D

    great, i only have 8 or 9 gigs left of the 80 i have, looks like some pictures and songs have got to go, (and some game data, but i’ve deleted most of the ones that i dont play, but then i recently reinstalled mercs 2, but i finished that, so it can go again), or maybe its time to upgrade, i’ve had this 80 gig ps3 for 2 years, and its starting to bug out, and its starting to worry me a bit, oh well, i know that i will have enough space when gt5 comes out, and i emphasize, WILL have enough space, lol

  25. gtone339

    Swapped my 80GB HDD to a 500GB HDD. :)

    Current space: 378GB

    Don’t have to worry about the 10GB requirements for GT5. :)

  26. Luke

    That is a good reason to finally upgrade the HDD in my PS3. Hopefully the savegames i have now are all transferable.

  27. Zenith

    Long installation times are by far preferred to long loading times. People need to remember that you either get one or the other.

    1. Mr Frappy

      My sentiments exactly. After waiting all this time, I find it strange how people would complain over having to wait an extra few minutes to make the game run that little bit better.

  28. Vulcao

    That all-black PS3 looks cool!

    Mine is 60 GB. I want to buy the 120GB slim. I’ve heard it’s faster than the older models.

  29. DJSkyline701

    WOOOAAHHH… 10GBs is huge…

    I would just imagine how much a Solid State drive would benefit from this. Load times must should be really fast with the PS3 storing that much memory?

    Has any one done this ?

    1. neem'

      The PS3’s bus doesn’t take advantage of the SSD’s speed, in fact even 7,200rpm Hard Drives make no difference, it’s only fast enough for 5,400rpm. but I would imagine you wouldn’t have to worry about reliability so much. If they weren’t so expensive I’d probably buy one. Then again, by the time the PS4 is out, I’m sure the smaller (128/256GB) SSD’s will be affordable, if not in line with equivalent HDD’s.

    2. Nemesis

      @neem: Could you elaborate on why you think there wouldn’t be a difference? It’s connected by SATA which supports a minimum of 1.5 Gb/s.

      I changed my old disk with a 7200 rpm disc and the difference in load times for media on the HD is noticable.

  30. WannaRace1

    Just ordered a Western Digital 750gb HDD for the PS3. I believe it’s the largest HDD that will fit in a PS3 at the moment. So bring it on, GT5!!

  31. ralph89

    I wonder how big GT5 will take on your HDD if you add up DLC stuff. :lol: Even Rfactor took me 50GB of space just to have all my favorite mods. P.S. You guys need to make sure to save some money for future DLCs on GT5 :) Even though it’s not confirmed, you will never know what is KAz going to do with all those new cars coming out in 2011. So the posseblity of DLC is high.

    1. neem'

      I wondered about that, too. Is GT5 going to be the most expensive console game to properly enjoy? You need the game (Signature Edition, anyone?), a PS3, a 3D TV, a good sound system, Move (apparently), PS Eye for head tracking, a wheel, a rig, a bigger hard drive and any DLC that comes out… You could go as far as linking up a few PS3’s and having three TV’s all connected.

      Anything else?

  32. GT_Prologue5

    Cleared up some space, got 81 free GB’s left so GT5 will be running smoothly. Now all I need is a new Sixaxis controller and I’m good to go.

  33. Sprite

    I just hope it’s a one off install. I’m not bothered about the amount of GB’s I personally would love to have the full game on as long as the slow load times displayed in the demos sped up.

  34. sre101

    My 40GB ps3 died a month ago, so i bought a 250GB Slim.
    Only thing was i had to start prologue again.
    Hope it’s true that you can transfer prologue cars to GT5.

    1. Madmurdock

      Yeah you can transfer cars from Prologue and GTPSP, but only use em in Araced, NOT GT Mode.

      Makes sense.

    2. Bernd

      Uuh, didn’t know that. Can we transfer the money too ?
      I suppose not. Well, that’s a full week of hard work with the usual 10.000cr-ride at the beginning then

    3. Madmurdock

      Some credit yes. Not sure of the amount. But it won’t be a lot. Maybe for example if you’d normally start with 35.000 credit. If you transfer from Prologue you might start with 100.000 instead.

  35. MANU56BZH

    10 giga is not huge for HD game with all things in GT5.
    But dont worry, all screens shoot, all replay, all levry, cars save etc etc … go in HDD and with the time it will be huge.

  36. Madmurdock

    That’s not bad really. One thing though is you get your lovely GT5 game home. Open the packaging. Place disc in PS3. Start the instal………………………. It’s gonna be a long wait during the install. Probably make a cup of tea.

  37. dearlybeloved

    @Jordan, i feel that for me, the custom soundtracks available for GT5 was such a brilliant feature that it made my day. Just the simple thought of listening to my favourite songs just made my day.

  38. DaveTheStalker

    10gigs? Hmm, I only have about 60 available on my 500GB HDD ;)

    So is it correct that the PS3 will use an amount based on how much is available?

    10GB is not a lot, unless you have a 20, 40, or 60 GB HDD. With larger drives being very affordable, and the simple fact that we are not at the mercy of Sony to provide a larger propriety drive, there really isn’t a reason to not upgrade. I’m sure there are HDD that cost the same as a game?

    1. Mr Frappy

      Why do people boast over having a drive that’s only 500GB in their PS3?

      My 250 GB PS3 slim is tiny for media, but HUGE for game files and installations. I have 6TB on NAS space for media.

    2. neem'

      Dave, you can apparently get a 320gb drive for around £37, annoyingly I bought mine a year ago when that was twice the price but as I stream all my media to my PS3 and I don’t tend to hold on to demos or betas I still have something like 250gb left, for my needs 320gb is huge. As you say there really is no reason to not upgrade unless you’re a very casual user or you just play MW2 all the time (with it’s hefty installation of 16mb or so!)

      As a side note, I wonder if you’ll be able to stream from a DLNA media server while playing or if the music has to come directly from your PS3? I wonder if a USB stick will work, for that matter…

  39. GTracerRens

    I HATE installations! I have a ps3 with 60GB Harddisk. It’s full of installations now, but I think I can remove the installation of GT5 Prologue and then I have enough space for GT5. :D When I have my salary next month, I’m going to pre-order the collector’s edition.

    1. tvensky

      No! not confirmed. Yes from PS3, but external HDD dont work with most of the games if not with all. You have to copy your music files to your PS3 to lisen music in-game… hope that will change some time after maybe some ps3 soft update.

  40. SZRT CIC Ice

    The size of the file is only “6” Gigs as stated above, but having an open 10 gigs on your PS3 so that it has room to run with will help the game run smoother… Well known fact for pc’s too… I like keeping 20gbs open. I have a 640gb (Seagate Momentus; $80) For anyone wanting to know what hard drive to get for your PS3. Look for a “SATA 2.5 inch internal (laptop) hard drive @ 5400rpm” this is the same type of drive already loaded in your PS3. You might want to grab an “external” hard drive as well so you can back-up your data. If so, the hard drive must be formatted in “FAT32” format for the PS3 to read it(right-click to format from a computer). I have a Terabyte (1000Gb) Wester Digital “WD” external hard-drive, half formatted in NTFS, and half in FAT32. Make sure the amount you format in FAT32 is efficient for you to back up your PS3 HDD (Settings-> System Settings-> System Information-> Free Space) and “then some” in case you want to back it up again in the future. It’s also good to have space for extra content you might not want directly on your PS3 like Movies, Music, Photos, Themes, etc.

    Hope this Helps!
    :)

    1. SZRT CIC Ice

      Correction: He said Prologue is 6Gb’s, but we still don’t know the size of GT5. He says to just have 10Gb’s open so it has room to work with, but it will still run ok with even 256mb.

    2. Nemesis

      @SZRT CIC Ice: I’d suggest using a quicker HD.

      Keeping a certain of space free doesn’t help as long as you don’t have a page file on the disc. What does is to make sure isn’t fragmented to badly.

      As far as I know there is no game for the PS3 which uses a certain amount of dynamic disc space on the PS3 so if you keep enough room for your saves (which is probably negligible) next to the install requirements you should be fine.

  41. rpr101

    just for those people that dont know. you do not HAVE to install the game and take up 10 gigs of memory if you dont have it. you can play without installing the game onto the hard drive. however when you install it it would load alot quicker. hence “you will be able to play more comfortably” they have the same thing for the UMD version of GTPSP. you install it and the difference in loading time is very clear. so for those who have the HDD space its cool to be able to load faster and for those who dont well oh well a couple seconds of loading time wont hurt =)

  42. RACECAR

    After doing some checking in the system settings, it appears I haven’t even used much memory as I still have 55 of 60 GBs left so I’m pretty much set come november.

  43. dearlybeloved

    That is a huge amount IMO. I suppose that I will have to invest into a 500GB HDD because I will be importing a lot of my audio onto the HDD just for the 24hr races which i will be listening to as i compete.

    Peace out.

    1. Jordan

      That’s a good point – with GT5’s custom soundtracks, I imagine a lot more people will load their music collections onto their PS3.

    2. Zuel

      I have a 80 with 7 games and over 200 song, 300 photos and I still have 30G’s left. So there’s no need for I to buy a new PS3.

    3. Nemesis

      Audio doesn’t take a lot of space. You’d need a humungoes ammount of audio for this to become an issue. Hope they implement the custom play lists in a way which allows you to add and play audio from a media server.

    4. HugoStiglitz_420

      well of course it depends how you convert it. If it were a WAV file ( which PS3 doesn’t do ) it can be 10mb per minute but that’s the biggest they get. I suggest you set your PS3 to convert MP3s with 320kbps as the bit rate. A 5 minute song is under 10mb & the difference in audio quality is virtually inaudible even with the best headphones or best studio monitors.
      @jordan Is custom soundtracks confirmed? I don’t see why it wouldn’t but it’s EXTREMELY important to me so I’m asking anyways. I think of all the new feaures of GTPSP or even GT5, custom soundtracks is my favorite. I’m very much into music so I got extra hooked on GTPSP thanks to it. Also Jordan, thanks for the news

  44. Shiz

    I just pre-ordered my copy of the GT5 signature edition today, its priced at £149 rrp. It might change but can’t wait anyways, i’d delete everthing just for GT5! Its the whole reason i got a ps3 for years ago!

  45. Bolg

    So there’s even going to be a long wait when we finally get the game, thought that might be the case, I’ll just set it going then make some coffee.

    1. exenter

      Why don’t you delete the movies after you watch them on the PS3? Why are you keeping them there? Don’t you have a hard drive on your computer for that?

    2. Nemesis

      Why don’t you run a media server? There are a lot of free media servers compatible with the PS3. A full “Uncompressed” blu ray movie is around 45 GB even a 500 GB disc would fill up rather quickly and than there is the hassle of copying it.

  46. tvensky

    I will delete everything, just for GT, if needed, nothing is more important then this on my PS3 :) I have ps3 with external HDD with 1000 GB where I hold all my stuff, so ps3 is for pure gamefiles :) the closer it gets the longer is wait, damn.. November 2!

    1. BWX

      I have a 120GB slim and have plenty of space. With all my pics, vids, etc.., I still have 67GB left. 120GB is fine for now. I’ll get a 500GB, or maybe a 1TB drive when/if I ever feel the need to upgrade.

      What’s the biggest drive a PS3 will accept? Does anyone know? Is there a limit?

    2. DustDriver

      @BWX
      It’s more the physical size of the 2,5 inch drive that is the limit, more precisely the height of the drive.
      Height should be 9.5 mm (0.374 Inches)
      Western Digital’s 1TB drive is 12,5 mm high, so won’t fit in a PS3.

    3. BWX

      OIC, so is the HD that’s in a 120GB PS3 a 5200rpm? I wonder if a 7200 rpm HD would be any faster loading stuff. etc..

  47. MilkMan

    I want to play without installing games on my console. Biggest downside with computers imo and hate to see it on console games too :( Specially with just a 60 gb ps3 I hate this :(

    1. Nemesis

      I do agree with you that it is unfortunate that installs are needed however unfortunately the hardware technology to produce a system which doesn’t require a install to a faster medium isn’t feasible at the moment.

  48. Maxitsu

    i expected this. you had to wait a few years for this game, and if you finnaly got it, you probably still have to wait a very long hour to actual play.

    but no problem vor the GB, i have enought space. i only hope my PS3 don’t explode when i am playing GT5 alot!

  49. Jeffree Star

    Plz help
    Im not a noob but i just bought a ps3 Slim 120GB

    Does it help?
    How perfect is it to not have a problem with GT5?:)
    & i have no data saved in it i only use the internet.

    Someone please reply to this:)

    1. Nemesis

      @CJ: Forza 3 doesn’t install it copies. Since it is a DVD which has a max size of 9GB this is the max install size. Doing the same thing with GT5 which takes up a complete Blu ray disc according to reports would result in about 50 GB where this possible.

    1. robert

      @ TVR&Ferrari_Fan

      why delete when you can have a half decent garage to start with…..im just building my collection up on GT5P as we speak and recently, ie yesterday, bought the Ferrari F1 2007 and everything is ticketyboo !!!

    2. DustDriver

      @Robert
      TVR&Ferrari_Fan means removing the GT5Prologue install data, not the savedata.
      Savedata doesn’t take up much space.

    3. Geo_212

      I shall do the same (though I have a good 61 gigs left), and I’m proud to announce that I have all of the cars in GT5: Prologue :D

    1. Nemesis

      This is something MS did nicely with the XBOX360 you can copy a complete game disc to the hard drive which increases performance dramaticly. This would be a nice addition to the PS3.

    1. LaBounti

      Its been long overdue :D…… Swapped my 80GB for a 320, for a large library of games 320 is the sweet spot with no need to upgrade for years. 140GB remain.

    2. viejaloca

      I got a 40GB too! I think I have 20GB left, but I never knew that if you copy data, the loading would be faster so I’ll delete my dad’s crappy music! lol

    3. Nemesis

      @vieljaloca: You cannot just copy data to your HDD and expect a game will run faster.

      A lot of game developers are forced to install data on the HDD since the data transfer rates required HD are extremely high and the available cache limited.

  50. sidsid

    Thank goodness I swapped my 60 gb for a 250gb. I pity those with a 20,40 or a loaded up 60 gb. And those 30 mins after opening the game for the first time and waiting for the install will seen an age. I guess the apex magazine will come in handy then!

    1. UCLA'09

      I hope it’s only 30 min. But you are right, the installation time will probably hurt me more than the 5 years I’ve waited…because I will be sooooo close. But the reward will be awesome.

    1. Sam__NY

      Yeah, that’s more than my ipod can even hold. Thankfully, the only reason I really got a PS3 was for GT5, so I’ve got plenty of MGs.

    2. ICEMAN_ZIDANE

      if you know GT5 its not much :D the cars are 1:1 copied from the real life the deatil level is very very high that is the reason why the game is so big

      he says 10 gb is ok , but i will give 80 gb for my gt5 :D
      i will delete all games and then gt5 can use 80 gb

    3. MrSkyline

      if you have space problems with your ps3 you can easily replace the harddrive with for example a 500gb one, it uses regular laptop sata drives avalable at any pc shop, and replacing the hdd is an easy job (no waranty void, and no stripping down your ps3)

    4. Razor BR

      @MrSkyline what do you mean with that , is it a usb drive or you replace the HD from the PS3 for one of those

    5. MrSkyline

      @ Razor

      check youtube for a video, you can replace the hdd of the ps3, with the normal 1st gen ps3 there’s a small hatch on the left side of the ps3, open it, you’l need to unscrew one screw, slide out the bracket and replace the HDD, start your console (everything will be lost, so backup savegames and stuff like that to a usb key or disk, game downloads will need to be redownloaded)
      The ps3 will recognize the new hdd and run a setup, then its ready for use.

      The ps3 slim has a small screwhole cover on the botom in the front middle, unscrew the screw, slide the part with the DVD and Blu-ray logo’s on it to the side, and pull out the bracket, replace it, same deal.

      I put in a 320gb a while ago, 500 is also possible (make sure you have a 9mm thick disk, not the 12mm thick (9mm is standard, but large drives could also be 12mm thick, that doesnt fit i beleive)

      just search youtube on replace PS3 (slim) hdd.

    6. MrSkyline

      ow and its a regular SATA hdd, so no USB drive. (although inside the casing of a USB 2.5″ hdd there is a SATA drive most of the time)

    7. Hentis

      @ ICEMAN_ZIDANE
      It doesnt matter how much extra gb you give it it wont utilise it. If it says 10 gig on the tin then it will use 10 gig not more or less.

    8. Nemesis

      @Mr. Skyline: Did you notice the seal you broke? That represents your warranty (For the older version at least). Although I’m not sure if Sony will wine about it. I also replaced my HDD with a larger one. Do keep in mind that for disks which are large (few 100 GB) it will be ineffecient because of the cluster size.

    1. robert

      10 GB ? think i got that covered since i had a 320GB HDD installed and with everything on there ive still got a massive 158GB left to play with so i think ill have no problems with this installation :P

    2. Spaghettimonster

      @robert: omg, youre so right. i just got my little raid 0 ps3 tweak working with two 500gb drives attached. im not worried as well. :D

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