Here’s the latest batch of videos from GT5’s Nurburgring GP Course, featuring a Corvette ZR-1 and Lexus SC430 Super GT car. While you watch, look for this interesting detail in the game’s menu system: the ZR-1, Audi R8, and CirtoenGT are listed as “Premium” cars. That’s interesting, because as we know from the semi-official GT5 feature list, Premium models will feature the game’s more violent damage system. Because we’ve only seen rally cars get busted up, it was initially assumed that only racing or rally cars would be in this Premium category, but now it looks like that may not be the case…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnfd64YAFqw&feature=player_embedded
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z06 said: “ok..I am a bit confused
From one side people say there are going to be 800-1000 cars?
Yet on the Official list sticky thread it shows like 100 or so max.
Which seems verified because all these vids are of the same cars.”
The official list sticky thread only shows “100 or so” cars, because Polyphony haven’t yet released a full car list – in other words, only some cars have been confirmed to appear in the game. However, it has been officially confirmed that Gran Turismo 5 will contain in excess of 1000 vehicles.
yeah guys, you can watch a point to point match in forza 3 on the first vid and play gt5 on the other and see the differences, and gt5 wins…in a huge aspect
Gunter!
@Alex
Not to worry mate, GT3 and GT4 had Aussie cars, I’m sure GT5 will have much more.
GT4 Aussie Cars:
FPV F6
FPV GT
Holden VY SS
Holden Monaro CV8
Ford XR8 Race Car
Please Please Please Hope they Have some Australian Cars Like the Holden W427 and Fords FPV Falcon, there awesome cars and would push MANY more Australian Buyers
What do people know about this Lexus SC430 Super GT car. It seems like a screamer in the vid! The acceleration looks to be very very quick…maybe too quick? any experts care to chime in?
Just some food for thought Praggia. You do understand that the sounds are different when you change the views correct? Even GT5P had that. Give it a chance. =)
Did you see the sparks when he connects with the rail? Very nice.
@HKS racer
You never played GT5 Prologue right?? the camera video sound isn’t accurate to the real game sound.
Prologue Z06:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iYF_KhV9tw
i hope in a better sound in GT6!!!! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
@FADE
Ask any real car enthusiast what attracts them most about a performance car??
1. the way it looks
2. the way it goes
3. the way it sounds
I have watched countless videos of journalists performing car tests and thrashing these beasts and you know what GT doesnt come close to reproducing the sounds im sorry to say
I love GT but the sound has always been disappointing.
The tyre screechin noises? come on be realistic the sounds are not true to life. its like its just a sample that keeps looping over and over again.
Out of all the vids of GT5 I have seen the second one here is has got me the most interested. I love the tents and camper vans on the side of the track, and the shadows of the trees across the track. Bear in mind I am still playing GT4 but the difference between the 2 games is staggering in appearance. GT4 Nurb is lifeless and dull by comparison. I really hope the dynamic night/day/weather is included in the game. To have the shadows change across the track, and to be able to see the lights of the fans campsites etc will really add to the atmosphere of the experience. (Of course I want all the other stuff too – damage, AI, better sounds etc, but I think the atmosphere component should not be underestimated)
Lol I just love everyone’s comment to speculation, one comment entertains another. I have a sinking feeling “premium cars” will be a small number lol.
Big Ron is right, cars have a tendency to crush in a similar way. A hanging bumper is a hanging bumper, an open door is an open door and a bended hood is a bended hood. One or two damagemodels for each class should be sufficient
I hope they didn’t make all the production cars shift way too fast. Not all cars are paddle shifter or F1 trans.
I love how much detail they’ve put into the cars and track with this new build of the game. Graphics-wise, GT 5 IS the REAL driving simulator. Hopefully its inner-workings will be just as good.
i hope these cars are modifiable. where forza is popular is being able to change the drivetrains and powerplants and i really hope the wrc mode is not just for the wrc cars . on GT4 you could take an old tank like the charger and adapt it for rallying. Also looking forward to seeing if i can beat the stigs laptimes round the TG test track with cars that have been on the show like the corvette
I think the premuim cars are only cockpitvieuw corvete , audi ,and ,citreon are not race cars will not have damage for sure
Love the 2nd Vid. Can’t wait try that track layout.
I think, the damage model does not depend on the number of cars. You can have as much cars you want. The thing is, you need to program a damage system to the engine, that understands, how to work with the car models.
A damage system does ot act different for every single car. If it knows, how to differ the different classes (factory cars/ race cars) and know, how the cars are subdevided in parts, it is almost done.
The problem is to program this damage system.
Something tells me the game would’ve turned out a lot better and been out already if they went with a few hundred cars instead of trying to brag about having a thousand. Quality over quantity, PD.
I just wanna Race! i dont care about wether or not i can see broken glass or not save that Sh*t for GT6!,Just give me weather,night racing,great tracks,pits and some serious Bad A$$ cars… any progress is good! Keep up the good work pd and get this game out!
HUGE LOL @ the guy screaming suuuuuukaaa!!!, sukaaaaaaaaa!!! between 3:40 and 3:50 (ZR1 video)
(in Russian that means sth. like FU…!!!, FU…!!! xD
this is the best GT ever made! Be happy for what you get of it guys! Think of Premium cars as only a “gift” from Kaz for the 5 year wait. Anyway, the premium thing will probably be resolved at E3, plus this is another DEMO! ( repeat- DEMO!). Also, quit getting mad at other people’s misunderstandings.
@Kilborn230
Kaz already said!!He’s not going to add damage to all cars coz every1 is demanding the game to be released…and he dose’nt hve time to do damage to all cars…so, thats why
Rated R Superb****
Does anyone remember the Toyota FT-86 that was bashed around the streets of Tokyo?
Thought not, check it AGAIN, you’ll see bits of trim fall off.
I’m not surprised at all
I belive it, when I see it :)
Mugen DC2 mmmm, Any DC2 for that matter…
I hope they add old Gran Turismo cars . mugen EK9 , peugeot 306 , del sol esi , mugen ferio , TOM’s angel TO1 etc… and porsche ^^
cars will stick to much on the track :(, awesome sound on video 2.
It has been confirmed that ALL cars will feature interior view, while premium cars will feature interior damage. This had been cleared up months ago.
Still waiting for a video clip to justify 5 years…….
Can’t wait to drive the Porsche 911 GT3 on this circuit!
F me sideways, I cannot wait to drive on this track. This shit will own my life! Jesus, Mary and Joseph, please let there be day/night cycle!!!!
Non Premium cars >>> HAVE
– Cockpit view (= interior view of the car = inside view of the car = cabin view)
– no extensive damage
Premium cars >>> HAVE
– Cockpit view AND
– extensive damage
– INTERNAL view of the car (sub-body view = views under the external body panels of the car)
at least that’s what we think this is to be.
The Audi in the beggining is premium too :D
I think the new engine sounds are very promising. They could still be a little more aggresive, but the cars sound very real, even when shifting. I`m looking forward to tuning the cars with upgrades. Adding a stovepipe muffler and a medicine ball sized turbo should of course change the sound of the car.
“game’s more violent damage system”… LOL, will it means: 1 bumper off and some scratches?
Call me when the premium cars could be totalled at more than 60-80mph in a collision with a security barrier… like in REALITY.
@G-Ram
That would actually make sense… and I’d be fine if that was the case. But didn’t they say there were only going to be like, 170 premium cars? I was hoping they’d cut out like, 500 cars and make the rest ALL “premium”. Oh, well, if this fails, we always have GT6 to look forward to! :)
@ the stig,
lets see when the game comes out, I shall be sitting back giggling to myself until then about the fact that your all discussing this.
I very much like the groups of fans scattered around the Nordschleife, not just the GP part of the course. Just that little detail adds a decent bit of immersion.
Very cool indeed.
@ Steady_Dave_2JZ
calm dawn dude !!! Some people do not know what they say, GT fans like you or me knows that all cars have inside view.
THE second video reminds me of my laps in GT4… T_T sooooo nostalgic
@Steady_Dave_2JZ
why are you so sure?
kaz can easily say that the info in that magazine was a mistake
admit that there is confusion about this game.there is no confirmed info,they just dont tell us anything,like its spoiler or something(which is not)
THE POINT IS THAT WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BLOODY GAME.
WE DONT KNOW ABOUT COCKPITS(yes,still dont know),WE DONT KNOW ABOUT WEATHER,WE DONT KNOW ABOUT CUSTOMIZATION,WE DONT KNOW ABOUT RELEASE DATE……………..
@AMG
ALL CARS HAVE INTERIOR VIEW, WHY IS THIS STILL BEING SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PREMIUM CARS WILL HAVE INTERIOR DAMAGE
AAAAAAAAAARGH
Vacummcleaner engines FTW!
@Praggia
If you don’t hear transmission whine in the 2nd video you are DEAF.
Also, there is NOTHING wrong with the tyre noises, they sound very realistic, it’s not nonsense. Sick of hearing complaints about the tyre noises. If you want no/muted/softened tyre noises go play Forza or something else, GT is more realistic sounding in this aspect. Tires squeal is not only realistic, it’s a great way to tell that you are losing grip. Please people shut up about this
“other games can replicate the sounds perfectly ie Forza and NFS”
1) Forza’s engine sounds, while being better than prologue, are hardly that much better, you are exaggerating to proke a point which doesn’t help debate.
As for NFS…grossly over the top engine sounds do sound better, in fact I think they sound really good, but Gran Turismo always goes for realism, and realism for the 1000 in game cars is tough. There is no way Kaz is going to put over the top sounds in GT. He will always go for neutral/realism/balance.
2) Complex engine sounds cost cpu-time, they might not have the processing power left to make them more complex. Blade Nvidia engineers for speccing a fairly weedy card for the ps3, resulting in developers using the cell for graphics more than they should. Also, this game runs at 60fps, NFS might spend a lot of cpu time doing complex sounds, but they only have to hit 30fps.
@ ElieTheBear
Corvette have a different sound in real life, it’s not only because of the cockpit view -.-
This would clarify the interior debate, maybe some of the cars in that demo were indeed Standard, and if they’d still feature an interior view I ( and many others ) would feel reassured somewhat.
Is anyone, anywhere able to confirm this?
What the hell can I still not rotate and view cars as I see fit, why spend so long on modelling for me to only be able to speed up rotation. That is some seriously retarded crap, you’d think they’d be giving me every option I could to look at the detail.
What transmission whine??? i hear nothing and im sorry the sound is still not up to scratch
The tyre noises still sound the same i hope they do release october/november so they can sort that nonsense out
If other games can replicate the sounds perfectly ie Forza and NFS why not GT?????
yo for those who said the sound was better in the second video …. it is because the first video is in cockpit view … each view doesnt sound the same … like in gt5p ! D
that menu design looks kinda bummy, Prologue looked classier.
GT4 premium cars seen in trailers mazda 787b audi r10 ?? even the suzuki capicino has cockpitvieuw ? is this premuim
@big ron, Im not sure if all GT4’s cars will be in GT5. Can’t remember the exact number of cars in GT4 but it was around 720 then add the numbers that was in GT5P and all the different builds that we have seen so far which did not feature in GT4, then hopefully every lambo,ferrari,bugatti,mclaren,f1 cars,rally cars etc some thing doesnt add up or is it just me : )
I think either GT5 has real damage system like Dirt or FM3 or no damage model. I was satisfied with no model and now it´s like a back and forth between complete damage, low damage and cars which are not included to have damage. Anyway nice videos and good driving in Vid. 2
I think, Jake is right. All cars from GT4 will be the standard cars. And all new cars are premium. Maybe, some race cars from GT4 are also premium.
the ‘vette sound too weak compared to real life!!! another mistake by poliphony :(
the lexus sound good and is a japanese car, i love japanese cars but PLEASE PAY ATTENTION FOR ALL THE OTHER CARS ALL AROUND THE WORLD, EXPECIALLY SUPERCARS!!!!
CORVETTE AND ENZO SOUNDS BAD!!! :(
watch these videos this is how a real supercar sound like:
Ferrari Enzo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7lpFOkuy5o
Chevrolet Corvette: (skip at 0,40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_GW8oLveg&feature=related
the real driving simulator is back
Love the nwe specs list instead of the scrolling line
Come on put the game out Kaz annd just up date in another 5 years when you think it is all 100% i’ve almost complete Forza 3 so it better to out by christmas or i’ll sell my PS3 this is the only game I really want to play on it, I still play GT4 on my PS2 as I have Withdrawal symptoms..
well any one want to play GT5 prologe online drop mr an in vite to And-War on PS3 network
I think that premim cars are in gt5 and standard cars are in gt5 (Carried from GT4). The point is, stop whining and just be happy with what there is, so what if not all cars have full damage, the best driving is on the track, not into the wall. SO embrace yourselves 4 d best game of the century… till GT6 somes out….
Mabe cars like the ferrari`s and lamborghini`s will be premium, and cars like mini`s and fiat`s will be standard.
Premium cars are those with interior view AND interior damage modeling
I do wish that GT5 has mostly ‘premium’ cars. This is because ‘premium’ cars are clearly racing cars and supercars. We don’t need 80 different types of nissan Kaz we need 80 different porsches and ferraris.
On the videos. I think that the sound doesn’t do te ZR-1 justice but then again I could barely hear it. Also I don’t think the videos had professional physics because it clearly shows that the driver sets it to the standard physics. Even then the driver looks to have trouble with oversteer. Also judging from the enzo video yesterday these demos have not got the damage model.
The lexus sounds much better i love it when a car has that whine. I would hae thought being a super gt it would ave revved a bit faster but it might not rev fast in real life. In all i think it looks great but the road car noises still leaves something to be desired. However i beleive that this is basically an old E3 demo updated with tracks and that this years E3 will be the only true indicator of the progress made.
Driving those SuperGt cars on the ring with cockpit view might be difficult with those blind spot and the nature of the track as they say is mostly blind corners. Even experience this in GTPSP. Head tracking/Look to apex should help in that situation
@Devin
Can´t understand, what you mean. I can´t hear any sound of a true muscle car. The ZR1 in the videos sounds like an electronical salad shredder.
The video of the SC430 is cool, good driving skill. But not visible, if he uses pro mode or standard mode.
@Dom…… Steady_dave is right. Do you really think the Citroen C4 will be a premium car? No nor do I, but that will have a cockpit view. It has it in GT5P for heavens sake.
the premium for me doesn’t mean nothing about the famous, premium-standard, thought…
Seriously guys end this now:
ALL CARS WILL HAVE COCKPIT VIEW, ONLY PREMIUM CARS WILL HAVE COCKPIT DAMAGE!
What’s everyone moaning about today anyway? Everytime I come on here it’s something different.
“I’m so dissapointed that you can’t photoshop your family and friends faces on to the crowd to make it realistic on small race days!”
Seriously the amount of detail in this game is rediculous and far ahead of any racing game out there, i’d be so happy if this was the finished product.
it’s a street car, can’t have doors open without roll bar…. so we will see same damage like street cars and not like race cars..
If a game like Mario Kart doesn’t need skidmarks then neither does Gran Turismo.
@ TokyoDrift and Dom: Yes, I agree. It will be very interesting how they handle the fact that some cars in a race are premium and others not. I bet that’s a pretty difficult task for them to design the race-events with that fact in mind.
Only if it’s true of course.
Not a fan seperating cars into two categories, no matter what “premium” will mean in the end.
Im worried too that soley premium cars could be the ones who have cockpit view…
So it would seem that the level of deformation will not be limited to just race cars, but also production cars where the manufacturer has given their consent. While this is good, it does make things a little more inconsistent.
What if racing cars that have damage and the street legal models share the same code? What I’m saying is that maybe for some of the cars that have a racing spec, that also has damage, shares (some of) its damage modeling with that car models various types.
For example: A racing spec Z06 that has damage could possibly share its damage with a stock Z06, a ZR1, and the base Corvette. Another example would be the Subaru. If you spent the time to get damage on a Subaru and there’s other models of the same body type, wouldn’t you just implement the damage on to those vehicles?
That’s jus my theory on the subject of the Premium vehicles.
“Man Furismo Jive” is gonna freakin’ ROCK BABY!
@ G-Ram: I don’t think they model “a damage-model” for every single car, they have a damage-engine and that calculates the damage for every car.
It’s not that cars, which are “desirable” to drive, that can be damaged, it’s cars, which are ALLOWED, by the respective manufacturer, to be damaged or even totaled.
Well that’s only my idea at least.
I just cant understand why kazunori can’t confirm that will there be cockpit for all cars or not.
for Christ sakes tell us yamauchi san :(
Seems there’s still confusion over ‘Premium’ cars and the cockpit view. I think it’s already been established that ‘All’ cars have cockpit view, only ‘Premium’ cars will have ‘Internal’ view, which is internal components of the car visible when the panels get damaged and fall off. I thought that’d been cleared up a long time ago.
It would be illogical not to start selling the 3DTV-PS3-GT5 bundle on the very first day of E3
The game is obviously ready. When KY said it’s 90% ready, they had just started packaging the complete game
In one month we’ll be driving Ferraris and Lambos (party)
Yea “cars that people actually want to drive” varies alot. My most driven car in GT4 was tied between a Honda Accord euro-r (newer one) and the Volvo 240 estate. I like driving things that are “realistic” otherwise, id play some other crap game. Damage modeling on normal cars is more important to me than race cars.
My 2 cents :P
Love the crowd all around the Nürburgring-track! Looks like last weekend at the 24h-race :-)
@G-Ram…. i drive a Mitsubishi Galant =) but thats besides the point lol…. this game is looking sweet!! and i am greatly anticipating driving that SC430 in cockpit view around Fuji, Suzuka, and Motegi just like the real SUPERGT drivers with all assists off and i hope we will be given the option to remove the HUD so i can be driving just with the gauges of the car. that would be driving heaven =)
Anyone notice the lack of V8 sound with the ZR1? Ive heard the ZR1s sound, thats not it. :(
But at least it looks pretty XD
I’d like to have the full left mirror on the Corvette, (others too, of course ) even if it isn’t 100% correct that way. But that’s just a minor detail. Hope, we will get the game after TGS – finally !
This mode I’m guessing is Arcade mode……Don’t think its GT mode..
will there be f1 cars like the 08 spec ones in the full game
I had to go back and watch some other racing games to remind myself how good gt5 is actually looking. Can’t wait for E3 to shows us damage, weather effects and night, oh and a rease date so I can book some time off work! Bring it on!!
Not to bring up old stuff but it seems like there will be no dynamic damage for premium cars.. Look how hard he hit that wall.. I hit a island doing 35 in my civic and the hole lower contol arm and tie rods where fucked.. To the point where I couldn’t drive it.. But I do like the zr1 though looks and sounds sexy and same for the Lexus.. And o the game looks beautiful only inside the guard rail
Transmission whine on the Lexus sounds great!
Pinches CanAm1968 =D
I’d love to wreck a Citroën GT, can’t wait.
Maybe they’ll take the Forza approach and make us pay extra… :D
it’s great to see the graffiti on the nurburg course, giving it some real “dirt” certainly makes it alot more realistic too me. I like some of the skidmarks in the breaking sections too (even though they are probably not dynamic and will never change/evolve)
k’mon Kaz, let it all loose at E3!
Just because Kaz never sleeps nor does he do anything half-assed….if I were a betting man, I think every single car will be a “premium” car. Being a Corvette man my whole life, the ZR1 lookd phenomenal and I can only hope the game also includes a Vette from each decade. They represent America’s best sports car.
I am also more excited than I can put into words that the other Nurburgring tracks will be in the game. As many fans have already said it….I sure hope to see Spa Francorchamps in the game if it is even possible because its one of the legendary tracks of not only F1 racing….but 24 hour endurance racing as well. Man, now if they could only get Porsche to get in the game….and I could be driving the 917 into the bus stop chicane…oh please dont pinch me… Im having a wonderful dream :)
SC430 has cockpit view. Go watch it again.
Funny enough, that SC430 doesnt have cockpit view, then its not a premium car. The plot thickens.
Looks like the HUD units can’t be changed huh…
I really like the HUD on the corvette. I use to have a ’91 240sx with one of those, loved it. More cars should have that.
I hope that PD will eventually let us choose interior color, and brake colors; especially for ‘premium’ brands like Ferrari and Bugatti!
ok ar all this car on the menu premuim cars ? like the enzo sls nissan all this cars have a cockpit vieuw does that means that this cars are premuim ??
If ‘premium’ cars will feature a more violent damage model and the ZR-1, R8, and Citroën GT are considered ‘premium’ then perhaps ‘premium’ is GT speak for “cars people actually want to drive.” I can understand this logic being that they didn’t want to waste their time doing intense damage modeling for cars like the Mitsubishi Galant or the Scion xB when they know that very few people will even bother driving them.
I better hurry up and wear out my GT5-Prologue disk before the real deal shows up…
because once GT5 is out, forget about Prologue, or any other games for that matter :P
is anyone here capable of repairing a laptop screen, because i just came so hard that i cracked my screen…that zr1 is just disgusting, it sounds like a true muscle car and the acceleration and handling are just brutal…id kill someone to drive that car…all this news is making it very hard to wait.
I saw the ’08 Viper ACR as a choice there!
The Corvette driver’s wearing RED, not the usual YELLOW. Maybe this hints a driver avatar.
Wow that dude driving the Lexus is really goood!!
Im worried that premium cars are the ones who only has cockpit view… :/
Love that sound on the Lexus. I hear that whine!
bu not neccessiarly be able to have full damage
this means it the premim zr1 like for exaple the premium silvia is the spec r…this has nothing to do with the crashing non n premium cars…or could it be that these so called premium r the ones that will have a cockpit view
Pretty small detail but I like that they have the option to speed up the cars rotation, in GT5P the cars take forever in the animation so I think it´s a nice little touch.
ok..I am a bit confused
From one side people say there are going to be 800-1000 cars?
Yet on the Official list sticky thread it shows like 100 or so max.
Which seems verified because all these vids are of the same cars.
Whew, I thought this artilcle was going to say something like… “ZR1 is premium and will have cockpit”. Seems to be good news!
I’m guessing Chevrolet/General Motors have given the the green light to showing real-time damage on their vehicles? ;D
Why can’t it be like this for “all” cars?
Yes!!!! Yes!!! Come on more news please!!
Quit teasing us and put out the damn game already…
Wish there were replays so we could see the cars in action
Lookin pretty sharp =)