Adrian Newey on the Red Bull X2010, Build Video

January 13th, 2011 by Jordan

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Here’s a new video out from Red Bull, featuring famed F1 aerodynamicist Adrian Newey discussing the development of the X2010 with Kazunori Yamauchi. It also includes some interesting clips revealing construction of the real-life model I inspected at GT5‘s Madrid launch party. There’s still no signs of this thing running on Pikes Peak, though…

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  1. Feb. 7, 5:20pm
    Razor

    Actually 1200HP (in qualifying) and at 60psi because FIA put boost pressure restrictor to stop further power rise.

  2. Jan. 22, 8:21pm
    mist

    zr1chris
    Its amazing that a V6 can even make that much HP.

    —————————————–

    the bmw m12 F1 engine (1.5L I4) was capable of producing ~1500hp at almost 90psi

    jussayin….

  3. Jan. 15, 8:51am
    s15specr

    its also not a real car LOL

    • Jan. 15, 3:44pm
      Gort

      Shhhhhhhh, we’re not supposed to know that……;) lol, kinda ruins the hype when people realize there isn’t one working in real life, and no proof that it would live up to the video game version if it did. Still, fun to dream…….

  4. Jan. 14, 5:07pm
    Timothy Idol

    Anyone know the song that is playing at the end?

    • Jan. 15, 6:40pm
      Chesh

      And it was I meant the wright brothers

    • Jan. 18, 6:08pm
      Chesh

      @dori
      Quality

  5. Jan. 14, 12:29pm
    Brainfade

    @Chesh your a bumbling moron, the moment you stop pushing the car fully you are no longer a racing driver. Williams KNEW that steering column was cracked but they made no attempt to fix or change it and they want to act all innocent in the January issue of F1 mag.

    • Jan. 15, 3:32pm
      Gort

      That would make it williams fault.
      If I knowingly drive my ford with bad brakes (1998 taurus is in fact known for a brake design issue), I can’t blame ford when the car rear ends a school bus. Ford warned me, the brakes give plenty of indication before critical failures, and if I ignore the warnings, it’s my fault.
      If Williams is aware that a key part of their car is failing, yet choose to ignore it, the designer of the car has nothing to do with that decision. It’s the team’s managment’s fault. If the driver for the team is aware has well, then both the team and driver are at fault.
      It’s probably moot anyway has this is only one of the suposedly proven scenarios, and there will probably never be total agreement on any of them being the actual cause

    • Jan. 15, 3:41pm
      NFSCARBON1

      If that is true it’s Williams’ fault. If Newey knew it was broken it would partly be his fault. Senna should have known, so it was his fault. Schumacher knew that catching up on the front driver could cause him to make a mistake, so it was his fault. You could go on forever as to whose fault it was.

    • Jan. 15, 6:38pm
      Chesh

      @ brainfade
      Firstly thanks for the insults you seem like a very mature bloke NOT.
      I like you have an opinion, and that is what I thought about your comment on a newey being a murderer. Do you think that he thought senna was going to die, because I don’t. Plus if I gave you a car with the same problem would you drive it? In your case you probably would.
      Everyone is responsible for there own actions.
      One more “Einstein your an all star son ” . Come on I’m about to be sick.
      And ” Chesh you take that back ” you sound like a spoilt older brother.

    • Jan. 17, 9:00am
      brainfade

      Chesh, stop following motorsport because if thats really your view then i guess you would probably say the same about Gilles Villeneuve, Stefan Bellof, Dale Earnhardt, Lorenzo Bandini… the list goes on… if this was an F1 paddock and they heard the CRAP that was coming from you, they would not let you leave that paddock alive, Bernie certainly wouldn’t allow you to carry on living.

    • Jan. 17, 9:52am
      Dori_kan

      Brainfade – Senna’s crash was actually fairly innocuous compared to some other well-known racing drivers’ accidents from previous years. (Stirling Moss at LeMans for example) If you stopped ramming your conspiracy theory down everyone’s throats for a second you might learn that it was actually a sort of ‘freak occurance’ that actually caused his death… when the front wheel impacted the barrier, it broke off and struck him in the head, killing him instantly. But i guess that was Newey’s fault too for not inventing the modern day carbon-kevlar wheel tethers a few years earlier huh?

    • Jan. 17, 6:30pm
      brainfade

      kiss my brown arse

    • Jan. 17, 7:04pm
      Ahaha, what.

      Haha, the sign of defeat. It’s time for you to stop posting.

    • Jan. 17, 11:30pm
      Mike

      @Ahaha
      Lol, I think he reached that point about 4 days ago, at arround the time of his first post. Pretty much lost all credibility soon after, and never did get arround to explaining how it’s Newey’s fault. To busy trolling I guess.

  6. Jan. 14, 7:46am
    Gran Turismo Vet

    He`s a geniuos

    • Jan. 14, 9:20am
      brainfade

      he’s a murderer

    • Jan. 14, 9:52am
      n00kz

      Yeah a murderer ….of distance .

    • Jan. 14, 10:11am
      brainfade

      im refering to Senna

    • Jan. 14, 10:58am
      Obli

      1) I’m sure it was never intentional
      2) Accidents happen
      3) Deal with it

    • Jan. 14, 11:48am
      Chesh

      How can he be a murder ? That’s like saying the brookes brothers who invented the first plain are serial killers. Senna shouldn’t have pushed the car as far as he did.

    • Jan. 14, 12:04pm
      Madman Apex

      @Chesh you take that back. telling senna not to push “as far as he did” is like telling einstein not to think or Kaz not to make video games. its what they do and they do it damn well. its very unfortunate what happened to senna.

    • Jan. 15, 3:06am
      Ahaha, what.

      @Madman Apex: No, dumbass. It’s like telling Einstein to not think as hard and Kaz to not take too much time making a single video game.

      Telling Senna not to push as far as he did is telling him not to kill himself. Telling Kaz not to push as far as he did is telling him to actually make a game without a sub-par damage system that took 5 years to make.

      That was a pretty horrible comparison, to be honest. Not to mention, two out of the three people in your example is DEAD. Says a lot about one pushing themselves “as far as he did”.

    • Jan. 15, 9:16am
      brainfade

      @Chesh you seem like the type of idiot who would try to ban motorsport on grounds of human rights… re-sit your edacation before you comment on here again. The moment ANY racing drivers stops pushing a car then they are no longer a racing driver, your comments are wrong on so many levels, seriously stick to your little FPS or GTA games.

    • Jan. 15, 9:16am
      brainfade

      education*

    • Jan. 15, 12:17pm
      Madman Apex

      there are a lot of people who were born in the same year as albert einstein who never did anything and never amounted to anything, never “pushed too far” and are forgotten; and you know what they are dead just like einstein. he was born in 1879 and would be 132years old this year. your an all-star son.

    • Jan. 15, 6:03pm
      Ahaha, what.

      I’m praying that you’re not a father. Imagine that, a grown adult acting immature telling anyone and everyone that aren’t “special” that they’re meaningless and worthless in this world. Maybe you had problems when you were young that lead you to have this perspective. Well, keep it to yourself. I have accepted that you, I, and everyone else in this world is worthless looking at how vast the universe is. No need to bring that into this argument, since it’s a totally different argument.

      We’re talking about Senna and how pushing himself to his limit actually killed him. Seems like you’re dodging the topic because Senna’s choice lead him to death. It’s a wrong choice because he died. PERIOD. His goal is to finish first place, not to die. I don’t care how important he is, or how valuable he is or whatever you’re babbling about with Einstein.

      If you disagree, you’re basically saying that Senna’s choice that lead him to die is the right decision. Sadistic, don’t you think?

  7. Jan. 14, 6:23am
    Tim

    not all android devices can run flash ethier , arm 11 devices dont have it along with a few other processors that has not been released for.

  8. Jan. 14, 3:17am
    Craigles

    Video isnt working on iopd!

    • Jan. 14, 4:27am
      tkmhero

      that would be because iOS devices don’t run Flash – you’ve got Steve Jobs to thank for that!

    • Jan. 14, 5:13am
      Skiddy

      Dude, you need flash..Or an Android..

  9. Jan. 14, 3:10am
    Sohvakettu

    Making F1 even faster would make the races even more boring. The margins in acceleration and braking are so small even now that passing is almost impossible.

    • Jan. 14, 9:19am
      brainfade

      THIS is what people fail to understand time and time again

    • Jan. 15, 3:57pm
      Nell

      I would have said quatum physics. Almost no one understands quatum physics …….lol

  10. Jan. 14, 1:40am
    mrdinosaw94

    Anyone else see mark webber?

    • Jan. 14, 2:57am
      robert

      yeah i spotted him

    • Jan. 14, 3:51am
      PaMu1337

      Loved the look in his eyes:
      “What the hell is that thing?”

  11. Jan. 14, 12:03am
    yak sox

    Pretty bloody amazing. Honestly, the Formula 1 steering comittee should take a look at this and learn. They’re talking about going to turbo charged 1.4l engines in 2013 — but the X2010’s 3 litre V6 seems like a much better idea. If they were to limit the revs just a bit to lower the intensity of the G force, then the shape of the X2010 is really where the future of F1 should be heading.

    • Jan. 14, 5:08am
      onearmbandit

      How does ‘limiting the revs just a bit lower’ affect it’s cornering ability, other than lowering it’s terminal velocity? If it can still go 320km/h, for example, then it will still pull phenomenal g’s at that speed around corners…

  12. Jan. 13, 11:44pm
    Ecchi-BANZAII!!

    I say what they said in Monty Python:D

    “It’s just a model”

  13. Jan. 13, 11:44pm
    Super_Colossal

    Did he say “easy to drive?” Um…really? So golding those challenges should just be a breeze? Come on.

    • Jan. 14, 2:45am
      robert

      i agree, i cant even get close to bronze times let alone gold

    • Jan. 14, 3:50am
      PaMu1337

      Well, the car is very easy to drive (keep it on track at a reasonable pace), but the X challenge requires you to keep it on track at the fastest it can possibly go, making it difficult.

    • Jan. 14, 9:17am
      brainfade

      @Super_Colossal @robert – you see thats how big the difference is between gamers and real racing drivers in terms of what they find easy to drive.

    • Jan. 14, 9:50am
      n00kz

      The car is easy to drive ,because of the INSANE amount of grip it has at all times .Hard to master, though …

  14. Jan. 13, 11:00pm
    Ferrari

    My daddy said he’ll buy me one for my next birthday

  15. Jan. 13, 10:17pm
    E RaK

    Anyone else think they should just throw an F1 v8 or an old v10 in there just to see how it performs as a more cost-effective racer? I’m talking minus the vacuum and everything else, just basics.

  16. Jan. 13, 9:35pm
    lambo sv

    I reckon the cost to actually build the car will be between 5-8 million and thats not even taking into account any testing or developing costs.

  17. Jan. 13, 9:26pm
    bigmackattack

    3 liter v-6?????
    I was expecting a lot more than that! My car even has a V-6

    • Jan. 13, 9:47pm
      idlestation

      It can probably be reved up much higher than your v6?

    • Jan. 13, 9:53pm
      bigmackattack

      well duh, but you can understand my surprise.

    • Jan. 14, 2:43am
      robert

      think its obvious to say you dont understand the engineering or specs of an engine if you’re unimpressed that its only got a 3ltr V6

    • Jan. 14, 8:52am
      Paulo

      Yea does your V6 produce close to 1500bhp? I didn’t think so.

    • Jan. 14, 9:16am
      Spaghettimonster

      If you look at the X1 introduction in gt5 – they tell you about the engine. first its a biturbo charged v6 and second its been made this way to improve aerodynamics as its a smaller aggregate.

      i am disappointed they didnt fit a cvt, but that would have been pure fantasy from what ive been told by mechanics. :)

    • Jan. 14, 10:57am
      Obli

      Have a look at some of the F1 cars from the 80s with the turbo engines. You don’t need a huge lump to produce a lot of power.

    • Jan. 14, 12:52pm
      zr1chris

      Its amazing that a V6 can even make that much HP.

    • Jan. 14, 4:23pm
      JasonMann

      i thought it would be more like a 2.2 v8 er sumthin, but a 3.0 v6 sounds a bit too average.

  18. Jan. 13, 9:25pm
    akiraacecombat

    If the problem is high G forces not suitable for humans,then a fighter pilot-suit will do the job,the car cant produce more than 10G in the corners and the maximum G forces supported by a human was 13 G,is possible but I don’t think is easier to develop,specially when they have to create a turbine for an F1,which may sound easy in theory but in practice the whole F1 chassis have to resist high pressures from the engine-turbine,I like the concept,its a shame that it can be done.

    • Jan. 13, 9:26pm
      akiraacecombat

      can’t sorry

    • Jan. 14, 3:14am
      YMG-7

      fighter pilots gets vertical g, but with this racing pilots will get horizontal g.

      fighter pilots wears a special pant in order to squeeze legs in high g situations, wich stops the blood drain from brain to the legs so they don’t blackout. so here you can’t use those pants :)

      also just imagine you’re in a lefthand curve with this car and experiencing horizontal 8g, your liver (which is the heaviest part of you body with 2kg) and it’s became 16kg and it’s pushing your gastric to your ribs, from inside.. they can take a lot of pressure from outside to inside, but i think they cant hold that stress coming from insinde.. :)

      so this car can actually kill you..

    • Jan. 14, 5:08am
      Skiddy

      @akiraacecombat

      What the hell are talking about? What engine-turbine, what pressures? X2010 engine is a heavily tuned 1.5 L reciprocating engine.

    • Jan. 14, 5:02pm
      colic

      G suits are also not worn by aerobatic pilots as they restrict precise movements not what you want really.

    • Jan. 15, 8:41pm
      Foxiol

      I have the car in the game (like most of us here in GT planet i presume) and it has a V6 twin turbo engine. The turbine is for keep the car in the floor. (Vettel says that in the description in the X2010 special event).
      And yeah at that speed not only the G force is bad…the amount of speed and have the ability to not fail in the entire race…i don´t know but in F1 championships we see a lot of bad moments…imagine that in a 450 km/h car…

  19. Jan. 13, 9:15pm
    Pryor

    Adrian Newey is an amazing guy, he’s contributed a huge amount for modern motorsport.

    • Jan. 14, 9:12am
      brainfade

      yes, he killed the greatest driver of all time, what more could you want?

    • Jan. 15, 7:15am
      yt.9

      Nice to see you living up to your name, brainfade.

    • Jan. 15, 9:11am
      brainfade

      go research your stuff mate, Newey knew his design was dangerous and Williams knew there was a crack in the steering column.

    • Jan. 15, 2:58pm
      An American

      So it’s Newey’s fault that Williams makes bad choices like driving with faulty components?
      There is no such thing has a non-dangerous race car, so blaming the designer for bad judgments of the driver is quite a stretch.

    • Jan. 15, 3:30pm
      NFSCARBON1

      I thought that his car bottomed out which caused him to lose control of it? I saw a programme that investigated it a few years ago and they had information from the blackbox that said the suspension loading immediately dropped just before he crashed. Do you think road car designers are bad because someone gets killed in an accident involving a car they designed?

    • Jan. 17, 8:57am
      brainfade

      nope, the bottom-out theory was made to cover up the steering failure, if they published the truth then it would be extremely hard for williams to avoid abuse, they receive ALOT of abuse via mail and email over the whole thing.

    • Jan. 17, 1:10pm
      Elvis Lives

      Yah, never mind all the witnesses, including myself, that saw the car bottom out. It’s a global coverup to distract us from the alien takeover of Disney World. We all got paid off with mouse ear caps to keep quiet. Shhh, don’t tell anyone. ;)

  20. Jan. 13, 9:15pm
    JaiAE86

    Pretty interesting!

    • Jan. 14, 4:22pm
      JasonMann

      now, make another, but with a real f1 engine!

    • Jan. 14, 6:43pm
      GTP_hossdeluxecustom

      I’d like to point out that me and my friend got to 501 Kph in a drift on the Indy circuit yesterday. I believe we were doing the Dream Car Championship. we drafted a Gt by Citroen race car to get up to 501 Kph. this car can move! And we didn’t crash going into the next turn, it was epic.


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