Gran Turismo 5 Update 2.12 Removes “Hacked” Cars

April 23rd, 2013 by Jordan

A new update to Gran Turismo 5 is now available, version 2.12. At just 24MB in size, the update appears to primarily address the “hacked” or “hybrid” cars in the game.

Although no official list of changes has been provided by Polyphony Digital, many players are reporting in our forums that cars in their garage which were modified beyond the game’s normal parameters have been reset or removed.

This is, of course, the second time action has been taken against users who “illicitly modified the game data” since Polyphony first started banning players who used the cars to compete in GT5‘s online Seasonal Events earlier this month.

Update 2.12 was released after the first of the two scheduled maintenance periods this week, with the next starting on Thursday, April 25th, at 08:00 GMT.

As always, visit our GT5 message boards for more details and undocumented software changes as they are discovered by our users.

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  1. BoneSawTX

    Anyone that thinks a game studio is in the wrong for trying to weed out hacking is a bit delusional.

  2. That’s so sad,I never raced online or used my cars in the seasonal’s.
    Now i have to loss my V10 powered M3csl and my BRZ with a normal STI engine and RWD.
    Great, i guess i wont be playing for a while then.

    • Yes, unfortunately the majority of modders have been let down by that TINY minority who insisted on using those stupid X1s with 1000000000000000000hp

  3. sumbrownkid

    That’s one good looking photo.

    Dat Mazda.

  4. E46fanatic937

    O and lets thank Jordan for his on the minute GT5 news.Your awesome dude as always

  5. E46fanatic937

    Im going to work in a while so if anyone has anything else to say to me . PM me or keep responding here it may take me longer to respond but i will eventually and to all the hybrid haters I LOVE U TOO lol.

  6. E46fanatic937

    STEEBZ!!!!!!!!!

  7. E46fanatic937

    Infamous I understand your non trust for hackers and I dont expect you to trust me, why would you because I run in pivate lobbies lol. Like I said I used to be a hybrid hater too I totally understand

    • infamousphil

      Do you really understand that you bought a game (GT) that you’re not happy with? ;)

    • Esgaloth

      Well, You name another Racing Somewhat simmish game for the PS3?

  8. E46fanatic937

    Anyone else???? STEP UP

  9. E46fanatic937

    Smskeeter listen son.I will turn in my GT5 towards Grid 2 anyday i choose or I can keep it and play offline until there is another way to use motor swapped cars online again with my private friends.Dont tell to make up my mind Ill do what I want when I want how I want lol. Im speaking for multiple people in the hybrid/GT5 community.To the hybrid haters I used to hate and hate on hybrids just like you guys also just read some of my previous post. I used to despise them and get all over excited like Stealth Rocket to express my hate for them. But then i sat down and learned to do my first motor swap making a car I saw on Motor Trend an old 240 with an RB26 thrown in magically this brought an whole new interest into the game for me. Many days I did not even go online just doing motor swap idea after motor swap idea it was fun I really enjoyed it sue me.

  10. E46fanatic937

    StealthRocket hush it up.I will dust you on the tunnel drag, just because I like to do motor swaps doesnt mean I cant tune I was tuning and improving my tunes for 2 years at SSR7 before hacks were implemented and ran with the best.Thats what some of you hybrid haters don’t understand some of the best tuners out there use hacks from time to time racing against other hacked vehicles,its just for fun man i get a kick out of it sue me, I will pull on you guaranteed sir lol.Stealth send me a PM ill give you my PSN add me and we will run.

    • smskeeter23

      No you won’t because you said you’re skipping online and the update :P

      That was after you said you were going to trade your copy at Gamestop…

      Make up your mind man lol

  11. TomBrady

    500pp cars on racing soft? Pathetic LOL

  12. E46fanatic937

    Also thumbs down to the dummies who were using hybrids in special events and the 3000000000 hp ricer boys tsk tsk. How stupid or desperate to win can you be.Now you have ruined it for the sensible people(until theres another way around this) and made the game a bore again.

    • infamousphil

      Trust don’t come easy, E46. I don’t trust any hacker, including you. So get real. When PD feels secure enough to allow tuned (not hacked) vehicles back into their TTs I’ll be a happy camper ;)

    • You need some happy pills by the sounds of it. Go to your doctor and tell him/her you have trust issues, they will happily prescribe you some ;)

    • infamousphil

      Win or loose. I’ll put money on you using a hack job in a TT, just to see if anyone could do better. Also, bet no one ever visits your private room, have not more than 30 hacking friends and rage quit races and on your 3rd controller.

    • Hmm, no all of my friends hack. I have 50 of them. I always tell people when i am using a hack because that’s the right thing to do. If you have issues with that, that’s your problem

    • And no, i am on my FOURTH controller because DS controllers are cheap crap. I have never thrown it in anger. I don’t get angry at games. That’s just sad

    • infamousphil

      Hopefully PD has resolved my problem with you with 2.12 GTH. ;)

    • infamousphil

      LMBAO… I told you!!!

    • already there buddy

    • Quakebass

      So far, none of my 3 perfectly good DS3 controllers have broken… and my system had the original DS3 that came with it – from 2007. And I don’t know who used the thing between then and summer of 2009, when I got it. I’ve dropped them a few times, and still, nothing has happened. The only problem I’ve been having is that the original SIXAXIS is holding a little less charge… But only by about an hour-or-so difference.

    • The rubber pads on the toggles split far too easily. That’s the issue i have with them. I can’t fix them because the controller is never the same when i put it back together. It goes all loose. It doesn’t matter anyway coz i’ve bought a really cheap one and it’s MILES better than the DS.

    • *By “toggles” i meant analog sticks lol

    • HuskyGT

      I still have my first Sixasis that I got with my firs PS3 back in 2007. Works beautifully.

    • It must just be my technique then….

  13. E46fanatic937

    Screw it lol, ill skip the online portion and the update.I have so many great swaps im not giving them up ill just enjoy driving them with local friends on split screen and on single player and arcade tracks there are many good racing games out there and around the corner coming out that I can play online with and there always GTA4 and upcoming GTA5 endless online fun.

    • infamousphil

      Good riddance, E46. None of you will be missed ;)

  14. TomBrady

    I was an F1 league that was disbanded because of a cheater so I’m glad that they’re fully fixed the problem. Online racing shouldn’t have cheaters, it’s bad enough we have dirty drivers. The suspicion alone can cause problems so I’m glad they’re gone.

    Part of me does wish the game would let us use those cars offline. My friend had a 50hp shifter kart up to borrow, it was so much fun. I really don’t understand why PD hasn’t added a kart like that. It’s one of the many instances where PD’s judgement makes absolutely no sense at all. They really have their heads up their brown eyes

    • lspredator

      Yes but it was many other Realistic cars to. And if it was not in the game. And if you dont want cheaters go in a privat loung or play offline!

    • infamousphil

      That’s the problem, Tom. No ones’ satisfied with normal parameters set by a developer. If you or anyone else ever put together a popular game, such as GT, it would be bastardized by the patronage too. Only then would we have to make a decision to allow it or, as PD hopefully has done, put your collective foots up those “unsatisfied” customers’ asses.

    • You just contradicted yourself here. You hate cheaters but you used a hacked kart? LOL like i said before, the double standards on this site are unbelievable

    • lspredator

      Not everyone ar cheaters!
      And there Shuld also be Possible to have a god online drift game to, and not only boring Raceing, yo have mebay heard this before
      KEEP DRIFTING FUN!
      I have never heard
      Keep racing fun

  15. The official notes are now up. It simply states “Fixes for some minor issues”. Thats litterally it.

    • smskeeter23

      Wow. Do they actually not know how big of a “fix” this is in the community? This is NOT a “minor” issue.

      “Fixes for some minor issues.” actually made me laugh out loud.

  16. E46fanatic937

    Can still do somethings hybrid wise.It was fun while it lasted best 2 and a half months Ive had on GT5 after i learned to do my realistic motor swaps. I made a 335i Sedan(330i with 135i Twin Turbo 3.0 straight 6 engine),Ford Taurus SHO Ecoboost AWD(old Ford Taurus SHO with Mazda MX Crossport Ford Duratec 3.5 V6 with 2 turbos and an AWD system),SLK55(SLK with E55 5.4 Supercharged V8),3.7l Nissan Primera(Nissan Primera with a G37 concept VQ37HR v6 engine with a turbo sounds great), Audi TTS with Lambo Murcileago V12 with turbo(Perfect marriage of engine and chassis Audi GMBH style),BMW E46 M3 CSL with M5 5.0l V10 seen it in real life why not here, sounds and performs great. 2005 V6 Mustang AWD supercharged(used the Mazda Ford Durtec 3.5 v6 again kept the mustang supercharger added an 02 RS6 AWD system,V6 responds very well to supercharger lots of torque produced more torque than some V8s. Goes on and on

  17. Well, this is rather disheartening… as a player who built hybrids solely for my own pleasure and for drifting around in private lobbies with friends, this really takes a lot of the shine out of playing the game now. It was a lot of fun playing around with different chassis and setups to get that perfect looking car, and it added an entirely new dimension to the game that got a lot of people to play it more often, so it’s a little upsetting to see all my efforts erased.

    While I don’t disagree with taking steps to curb the use of hybrids in legitimate lobbies, I don’t agree with the method PD chose. They already did a great job fixing the seasonal events on their side to prevent cheating (and IMO, this is the way the seasonal events should have been all along) while still “allowing” hybrids, and I think they could have done the same with online lobbies.

    Implement a system a la Punkbuster that checks the integrity of the game’s files and the save files, and removes/warns users who are in violation. Then, make this system optional for lobby hosts, similar to how many PC game servers are set up. That way, hosts who want to run a legitimate lobby can check the box that enables this anti-cheating system to prevent people from using hybrids in legitimate races, and hosts who want to run a lobby for fun can leave it unchecked and have a good time messing around with their modified cars.

    In any case, I probably won’t stop playing, but I’ll almost certainly be playing a lot less, and might even forgo the online portion of the game entirely for the time being.

  18. E46fanatic937

    Still can use parts from secret menu also hehe.(Ultra Turbo)

  19. E46fanatic937

    Hey you can still do engine swaps no bhp multiplier thats cool i guess

  20. When Jeremy Clarkson tested GT4 on Top Gear he said it was unrealistic. He raced an NSX around Laguna Seca in real life and then used an identical NSX in GT4 on the same track and even he said the feeling of speed is exaggerated. So stop claiming this is a real driving simulator. It isn’t. It’s a GAME. Games are meant to be fun, but GT5 stopped being fun a while ago. Modding made it fun again

    • That was a PS2 game. Of course it’s bound to be unrealistic. While GT5 isn’t exactly 100% realistic either, it’s A LOT closer than GT4.

    • Yes i know it was a PS2 game. I have bought every GT since the start so i knew this already.

      I know GT5 is a lot closer to realistic but it is still exaggerated!

    • Tax returns were cool when I was new to the work force now it’s pretty boring. Spice up your life stop following all the rules, see how far you get.

    • TomBrady

      First of all dummy, he used racing tires on the NSX in GT4, and he used the Type R model NSX which is significantly faster. Thirdly, THAT WAS GT4, NO ONE EVER SAID GT4 WAS REALISTIC. IT WASN’T.

      Have you even played GT5? That’s such a stupid thing to do, lumping GT5 in with GT4, GT5 is miles ahead of GT4 in realism, just like GT3 was a ton more realistic than GT2. It’s the natural progression of the game.

      GT5 is far behind netKar PRO but it’s still a great sim if you know what you’re doing.

    • StiggyGT

      Can’t argue with that! ^
      Yep, you can’t compare GT4 with realism, especially when Jezza hadn’t used the adequate set-up…

    • @TomBrady – Well sorryyy then mister intelligent. I’ll be sure to keep my opinion to myself in future? HELL NO!!

      NAMECALLING WHINEY LITTLE KIDS

    • IT’S ONLY A GAME FFS

    • to quote what i said in a reply to this OP

      “I know GT5 is a lot closer to realistic but it is still exaggerated!”

    • Quakebass

      I’m just going to add this to the argument…

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCk3eciMDE

      …Looks pretty realistic to me… And considering that we have a CONSIDERABLY re-worked physics engine, we ARE a LOT closer than GT4 was.

    • Please!!! I SAID THAT!!

      “I know GT5 is a lot closer to realistic but it is still exaggerated!”

  21. E46fanatic937

    Good Bye GT5 going to gamestop to trade it in put money toward Grid 2 been fun GT5.

    • See ya, won’t miss you in the least

    • TomBrady

      HAHA Grid 2 lol that “immersive” racing game that doesn’t even have cockpit view lol have fun giving away your money to a company that continuously rips off it’s customers. You’re just the type of sucker they’re looking for

    • StiggyGT

      Lol! Do you think he’s serious? XD
      That’s his loss anyway, not ours.

  22. Toyota2jz

    So they can quickly produce and introduce a patch that removes the hack, but they can’t introduce a fresh realistic tuning option?

    That’s a real kick in the butt for tuners.
    It makes me sick, why we have any tuning in the sim at all?? Would be better off without it. Better off with stock cars. Not much you can do to feel the realism of a tuned car, too plastic for my liking…

    PD advertized and promoted “Customization” before its release. Well, not very promising I’d have to say. No joy.

    Just my opinion by the way.

    • Progress823

      This is PD we are talking about here – the company of futility and regression. It is even sadder than this type of tuning and customizations will most likely not be incorporated into GT6.

  23. In my opinion, it’s very good that they have done this. It shoes that they still care about the game. Furthermore, it means drag racing can now be pursued again.

    • No it doesn’t because every time you beat someone you will be accused of drafting. Sore losers are everywhere in this game

  24. Pit Crew

    Heres a thought PD, how about Crate Engines and an in game customization feature to Hand build a chassis. Oh yeah, Acknowledge the Drift and Drag crowd in this game.

  25. Tommygunn

    Hopefully racing soft tires will only be allowed on race cars. Street car street tire

  26. I sincerely hope that PD got the message at this point. We really need more customization and tuning options. Either through a future update or in the next game.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Amen.

    • agreed

    • Progress823

      Do you really think that PD got the message by going backwards to fix this issue rather than putting the effort to allow this type of tuning in GT6? I highly doubt that GT6 will have it, especially if on PS3.

    • @Progress823 – I fear too they don’t get it, but PD can’t deny the fact that several custmization and tuning options are already there. Not to mention the fact that community seems to be loving them and those options can (and should) be ”easily” enabled in a future update/game. As for drivetrain and engine swaps, I don’t know how that works out with licensing and whatnot this time around. I’ll however be surprised if they kept the limited customization and tuning of GT5.

  27. WELL THANKS A BUNCH ALL OF YOU TROLLING A******S!! YOUR 1,000,000,000HP X1s have ruined this game.

    Yes i am a hacker/tuner/modder or cheat, as some of you small minded people call us. And i am proud of it!

    I can sleep safe at night knowing i was not cheating because i never ONCE won any races with my modded cars. EVER. That is NOT why i done it.

    So feel free to throw insults around it just shows the level of intelligence you lot DON’T have.

  28. Tommygunn

    PD made a level playing field again. Practice practice practice or quit hackers . All u hackers sound like a bunch of three year olds . Who can’t play by the rules so u run home

    • Tacobell18

      Ofcourse we can but we choose not to because this game is 2 years old. People been using the same cars over and over again. I can live without the modding but it sucks that it got ruined for people like me who only used it in lounges and with friends.

    • MuoNiuLa

      lol Keep assuming everyone who modded was a cheater.

    • @MuoNiuLa – They can’t help themselves!

    • LMFAO

  29. Alen Ramic

    are there any other changes beside patching these hacked cars? someone?

  30. richiem2282

    Good Riddance!

  31. Super Novi

    this is just the final nail in the coffin. And to think, i was actually gonna start playing GT5 again.

    • yes it is a sad day for REAL tuning enthusiasts. PD seem to think skylines can only produce 850hp. WRONG

    • TokoTurismo

      I’m going to say this again. GT5, is 2 years old, DEAL WITH IT. >:)

      @Super Novi Well your fault for being late, too bad so sad my favorite teacher will say. lol XD

    • sailworksman

      You honestly though PD would would let it slide? It was just a matter of time it was going to be patched. BUT, having said that, I like the idea of hybrids within realistic values, I.E. Forza. I would like to see that next time in GT6.

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ Agreed, that was one thing the Hybrids had. Hope more customizing is in GT6.

    • I accept that GT5 is two years old, TT. I HAVE DEALT WITH IT. It was nice to be able to do new things with it, but now it’s just boring old GT5 again. Yawn

    • PepeMickey

      Don’t play it then…

    • lol

    • Super Novi

      @Toko
      Being late? What? How is that relevant to ANYTHING? I was not late for anything.

    • TokoTurismo

      @steebz That sucks. Guess another game will have to do then I guess. :P

      @Super Novi I meant by you were late on making hybrids.

  32. hookedonturbo

    Oh well. Bye bye ultra high rpm turbos, bye bye carbon ceramic brakes, bye bye racing flywheels and bye bye triple plate clutches. 8(

  33. snaketus

    Good.

  34. what, did you expect they wouldn’t? At least you guys got to play. only got to use my copy twice before I lost access to a PS3.

  35. Turkey :D

    I’d rather not update and be able to run my hacked cars. I guess I’m not playing GT5 online anymore. What a shame. They could have added simple provisions to keep hacked cars and stock ones in separate rooms.

  36. diegorborges

    NO FUN ALLOWED. =(

    • so gt planet, have you reported the player who hacked that rx7 in the photo!?!? talk about double standards lol

  37. Macapaca

    HOORAY!

  38. smskeeter23

    To the GT5 is dead crowd:

    How many of you are still playing GT1-4 without mods from time to time? Those didn’t have ANY updates after the release and yet there are many people still playing them. GT5 may be done with updates but it’s still a great sim and will remain so for a long time in many peoples collection.

  39. pay2021

    The fail of PD is not understand that the people hack because of lack of customization options.

    • fordskydog

      No. The success of GT is that they recognize that their is a void in the market without them when it comes to a DRIVING SIM.

      If you want a MODDING SIM go play another game. There are plenty out there…

    • MAidioPT

      yes, but there is about 10 % people who think like you and 90% get 100000000000000 HP sadly….

    • pay2021

      lol you fail to understand that customization and modding are two different things

    • MAidioPT

      Up wrong reply…

    • Progress823

      So narrow minded – a part of the “real driving simulator” should have realistic tuning options (including body kits, NoS etc.) as they are available in the REAL world.

  40. DITCHLINE

    AMEN! Starlight you hit the nail on head GT5 was DEAD! playedout seems like PD is just trying to make everyone wonder “Is hybriding going to be in GT6 NO! this update shows there in now hurry to produce it if their still patching 5. A real driving simulator would include features like part swaps and mods its called HOT RODDING where I’m from, the very basis of the car culture but the designers arent aware of the whole SO CAL movemt in the 60’s Drag racing street racing ITS SAD DAY TO BE A GT5 OWNER

    • fordskydog

      If you think the franchise was dead, and all this hacked cheater car crapp brought it back from the dead, then why don’t you just let it lie.

      Quit playing GT5 online. Quit cheating. Just go away and play NFS or whatever.

      There are PLENTY of us who are just more than happy with a great sim and good racers to race against.

      In fact, maybe you are right a little bit. I actually noticed that the online gameplay was improving before all this became mainstream. Then I noticed the gameplay online get worse. Thanks for helping me put two and two together, and further cementing my opinion that CHEATERS CAN GO PLAY FORZA.

    • Voodoovaj

      @fordskydog

      Let me know when you have a room up. At the moment, PD has not fixed the cheating; only the modding. By all accounts, the secret menus are still accessible as are the super soft tires. The cheaters have been allowed to go about their business.

    • smskeeter23

      @voodoovaj

      To an extent you are right. Cheaters still have access to some things the no hackers do and will use them.

      Perhaps the next update will correct that as well.

  41. MAidioPT

    i did have realistic hybrid cars… used them online aswell, never have been kicked because people saw the good side of hybriding.
    now to those who had 100’000 hp are ridiculous… and going with hybrid cars to online events are just awww they are ######!!!

    well…
    i can live without hybrid :)

    • TokoTurismo

      +1 You have a good spirit my friend. :)

    • fordskydog

      Thank you. You recognize that if you give an inch people will take a mile, and that the game has plenty of merit without hacking cars. I’m with you.

    • MAidioPT

      is someone of you guys online? i like to spend my free time playing gt5 with people like you/me , because these last days were awfull even with hybrid, people were going crazy with loots of hp….

      i just reminded that i wont have my wingless r34 anymore.. :'(

      so…. someone in for some clean races around the nordschleife? :) add me, MAidioPT, i am online in 30mins.

      sorry for my english :)

      regards

    • TakumiFuji01

      I made my own realistic hybrids too. Some people just never think of realism compared to GT5, they appericate it in real life but they’re so biased in GT5.

  42. StarLight

    Good move PD, not really!
    I quit GT5 …. goodbye PD.
    Hope thousands will also follow me.

    R.I.P. GT5
    2010-11-25 – 2013-04-23

    • jae66710191993

      no offense but the more of you who leave the more fun we “who dont hack the game” have without you

    • TokoTurismo

      Bye bye. GT5 is a 2 year game so I don’t know why you think leaving it will scare PD. BUTT HURRRRT!!!!

    • varmintx

      Why in god’s name do you people, who apparently hate this game so much, come here week after week to exclaim how you’re done with the franchise on a site dedicated to that franchise?

      One might come to the conclusion you people are pathetic losers with absolutely nothing better to do with your time.

    • Progress823

      It’s not that we hate the game…. It’s that we hate how it has really not evolved. Compared to this game’s peers in the market, GT is starting to lag behind….

  43. jae66710191993

    well to let you know to all those who are hackers or just think ” oh its not hacking if im realistic about what i do to my cars” well heres is a bright prespective on those who agree polyphony digital did there job. read this hackers. Dear hackers if you moded the game file in anyway and say you did and said you were only making it realistic well no matter how you see it you still hacked the game you went in the file and moded the original formats of the game to your view to make it better in your view and your view only so by that you hacked the game all because you though it would be better” to be honest hacking is a cheaters way of saying i suck completely at gaming and the only way i have to modify the game in order to win or look cool well your wrong you profound excuses for gamers hackers need to be caught and deleted from everything exceptions only to government officials who are doing there country a big favor by protecting it. by all means GAME HACKING NEEDS TO COME TO AN END BECAUSE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE FAIR. get it you know for you hackers FAIR is word that has to be spelled out for you FAIR ANYTIME I RACE get it FAIR
    discussion ended with you polyphony digital you did your job congradulations on that you made me and my team mates very pleased

    • Tacobell18

      I dont really care that theyre gone now. All I want is for PD to actually realise that we want more customization.

    • jae66710191993

      nobody cares about what 1 person wants yes i do agree customizing is a issue for people but check this one for every professional series of racing no one cares how or what your car looks like they care how it performs i agree that certain areas where pd should fix is in the down force extensions in the gt auto should produce downforce and that rims should affect performance points but that i dont care about im sure gt6 will have those options if they dont patch this up for gt5 but really look at it this did you know all this crap people are doing the game files are options forza 4 allows but my catch is gt is orginal its a real driving simulator i drive everyday in real life ive played both games gt5 is more realistic so if you people dont like gt5 take your hacking POS skills to forza because psn dont want xbox players besides you cant do to much to ruin forza i mean really its pretty much ruined it self by trying to compete

    • jae66710191993

      hes right pd could careless shoot if i worked for pd and saw hackers leaving you would be making my job a WHOLE LOT easier so tokoturismo is right no one cares if you leave starlight have a good one pd could go without you to

    • Tacobell18

      GT5 lost that “driving simulator” title when it introduced the X1. That right there showed that there is a unrealistic side of this game. What you’re doing right now is hating on everyone that used a modded car. Yes, there are lots of kids who had ridiculous amount of HP in their Fiat 500 but there was also a different side of it. People that actually rebuilt their cars and made it a little bit faster so it could compete to the already fast ones out there. Again, i just hope they learn from this and not stick to the past. Remember, there are other racing games coming out so they actually have to step up their game.

  44. smskeeter23

    Has anyone found anything in the update other than the hackfix yet?

    • jae66710191993

      no one cares about the stupid x1 your point is so invalid its not funny maybe you have no sense of direction this is a forum page where people have a right to reply as a freedom of speech meaning if you say its not and i say it is meaning if you dont think it is a driving simulator half of you dimwits would have gone to play forza which in fact you should because all you people talk about is gt this gt that no one gives them any respect for what the do for there hard time and work the kind of work put into these games takes 100s of work hours and there the underdogs who get no credits for there hard work all they get is ” this game could have been better or this game is missing this or that” honestly man go f your self because truely you dont appreciate the time and effort your just like all the hackers make excuses to hate on gt but in return you keep playing it so in all reality if you and every hacker in the forum hates gt so much you would have stopped playing it or not even had bought the game when it came out so there

    • Tacobell18

      ^I would take you serious if you replied to the right comment

  45. fordskydog

    Yes. Thank goodness. This is good.

    I don’t cheat. I don’t want to play with cheaters. Beyond that, I don’t want them sneaking into my games and ruining races. It is not fun to play with a cheater, and it is not nearly as fun to play when you are cheating.

    To those who don’t think this is a good idea, go f yourself and quit cheating. Better yet, give up the game. You are a hack. Leave it to those of us who love it for what it is.

    • Tacobell18

      Youre saying you never used a modded car? So how are you claiming that using one is not fun? Just right there i already got amazed by your comment.

  46. Madertus

    Yes, finally!

  47. smskeeter23

    Somebody should fund research into the affects of GT5 news on spelling, grammar, intelligence, and logic. I’d much rather spend my tax money on that than another project to determine the environmental effects on leaving a refridgerator door open in the Congo or why ice cream can’t grow hair.

    Seriously folks we knew this was going to happen. Simply decide what you’re going to do and move on with your life.

    • hahaha the grammar expert is back….! be happy about all the people u see on here,having deficit in grammar and vocabulary,that must actually upper your self esteem no? lol
      But you do realize,that the world wide web does actually exist outside of U.S, or wherever you are from,yes? that’s why it’s called WORLD WIDE WEB ok? and with your level of intelligence wich you are ‘shining’ with on this forum, you certainly already have recognized that not everybody who are posting their thoughts on here,necessarely have english as their native language? i bet you did…My english for example,you critisized so bad may not be perfect,but therefore i speak and write perfectly french and german…now i’d be curious about how many languages u rule apart from english?

    • and by the way,defining intelligence only through grammars shows me that you are apparently a pretty narrow minded person,and maybe not that intelligent finally as you’d like to make it look like…;D

    • smskeeter23

      Maybe I should have specified that I am primarily referring to people in the US that insist on mutilating the language. Things like “all u haters on the hybrids so funny shut up I use only realcars lol to realz and beat u all they time your all suk compare to me online lol come at me wit whatever you gots no skilz lol…”

      I’m mainly talking about the endless illegible dribble from people that seem to be from a place where english actually IS the primary language.

      You’re reply however seems to have a better grasp on spelling and structure than some that have been “learning” it since birth. You are NOT what I am talking about.

    • smskeeter23

      Hmmm, looking back through the comments now I think I may have actually been looking at the other thread and accidentally mixed my thoughts in with this one, oops… well whatever.

    • Madertus

      “You’re” reply…?

  48. Rallywagon

    If you didn’t see this coming… Up next will be IP bans. If you want to hack GT, stick to the older games. Until they stop supporting GT5, they will just keep cracking down harder and harder. Well, probably not. They will probably start IP bans after this, three strikes and you’re out. I can see why people are upset, not everyone was modding like a DB and cheating in DT/TT, or going into open lobbies and ruining people races or freezing the room. Unfortunately people were though. And since the modders are a small niche in the game, PD is going to protect the larger fan base.
    There is no way PD is going to allow people to rip through the code of a game they are still supporting. Look how OCD Kaz is about this game.

  49. smasherguy1020

    Good job Polyphony Digital i hate the hackers that were in the game because everytime that i was in a drag room i always see a hacked car in the room. Thats why i dont hack my games because i want to be fair in my games.

    • Voodoovaj

      Drag racing wasn’t implemented by PD either, so you’re technically playing against the rules as well.

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ At least those who want to drag DON’T HACK THEIR GAME TO DO SO… Why do you think theres Free Run?

    • fordskydog

      Drag racing has it’s place. I have never seen the fun in it. But it is conducted in the spirit of fair competition for the most part. Also, it takes advantage of the “Free Run” gameplay style availed to us, and doesn’t modify the game what so ever.

      Nothing wrong with drag racing. Something wrong with hacked cheater cars.

      Your argument is called the “Straw Man” defense where you basically try to change the subject. It is a known logical fallacy:
      Person A has position X.
      Person B presents position Y.
      Person B attacks position Y.
      Person B says therefore position X is flawed, while actually proving nothing.

    • jae66710191993

      to voodoovaj your remarks are invalid see if you really want to get technical i love doing this technical talk i do it everyday to people if the game file did not get modified in any way shape or form that is not a hack nearly it was not implemented by PD but it was not a modified file secondly for technical reasons it is a choice by players to do as they please in open or private lounges depending on the situation of the required elements of the room specifically FREE RUN i can go in a lounge that says 1/4 drag and tune a non hacked car and race that all day PD doesnt see a problem with that same for drifting aswell but when you mod the game and race people who dont of course people are going to get upset and start complaining because they love the fashion of the orginal format as i do so yes i agree hackers do deserve punishment and those who didnt hack can continue there love for the game either online or offline so voodoovaj get real seriously your arguement is invalid and those who agree reply to him

  50. L8erBaby

    Even IF you did “realistic tunes”, there would still be problems.
    1. When you installed the game, you agreex to not modify the game files.
    2. You would still gain an unfair advantedge from players that do NOT modify the game.

    • Tacobell18

      I completely understand that but why not get rid of the guys that get reported and mess around with the DT/TT leaderboards? I only used those cars in a lounge with friends. People are getting scared when the game changes just a little bit.

    • fordskydog

      If people only used their hacked cheater cars in private lounges, this wouldn’t be an issue. Unfortunately,

      PISS OFF QUIT CHEATING

  51. jimipitbull

    Lance Armstrong was a realistic cyclist.

  52. The Stig Farmer

    Trololololololololing.

  53. STR8 6 SHOOTER

    These comments are unbelievable. I’m happy they fixed this.

  54. Did you have stop to think that the hacked cars may be breaking the promises they agreed to in the contracts with the car companies while creating their cars within the game? Thought i doubt that is the case. Hacked cars would def ruin online races.

  55. cyanyde2010

    Now I’ll agree seeing those horrible x1 hacked vehicles is great to see I myself enjoyed just slamming and color swapping my hybrids to make them look good and maybe tweak HP on some of the muscle cars for drags (1100 HP tops) but I guess we shall see where this goes I was still able to paint slam camber and get the engine sound from the 787 into an re rx7 last night so its not completely over

    • TMImportsToy89

      duuude u better learn to use theese ( , & . & ! )

    • fordskydog

      Just don’t bring that S into an online racing lounge, or a TT. You cheater.

      Sounds like Forza is the game for you anyway.

    • cyanyde2010

      Would you like to explain exactly how I’m a “cheater”…number one I have NEVER taken a hybrid into ANY seasonal event and my game was complete looking before I started hybriding. I lower cars and give them a stance and give the engine a better sound as far as my drag cars I only took them into hack lobbies to be fair with people who don’t have/use them so please enlighten me as to where along those lines I’m a cheater

    • cyanyde2010

      Sorry I didn’t realize I was in English class

  56. SLOWROLLA56

    NOW GT5 SUCKS. they are stepping in the wrong direction, now gt5 doesn’t get me excited anymore because I cant hack. THANKS AOLT PD!!!!

    • TokoTurismo

      Hey, GT5 is 2 years old you know. Get another game to play or wait for GRID 2. Oh wait, I heard that game has no cockpit view. HAHAHA!!! XD Cry more. >:)

    • fordskydog

      Yeay! Maybe you’ll quit playing then.

      Play something else, cheater.

  57. QuikSlvr223

    Sweet!
    I will admit, I did want to use a hacked X1 on SSRX to see how fast it could go. And then use it on Wings of the Red Dragon…

  58. Relax, guys. While we can’t actually mod cars(for now, possibly) we can still paint the unpaintable cars abd edit our credits.

    So for anyone who wants a Gold or Silver Chrome F1 Ferrari, it’s not too late.

  59. TakumiFuji01

    Big mistake on PD’s part, now they get to watch the amount of ppl online dwindle. Should have made regulations, not just throw it away.

    People saying it’s a great move, funny how you never experience any hybrids yourself, especially when in the inside you want one.(I assume a realistic swap like K20A from Honda Integra Type R DC5 in Honda Civic EG6 SiR II).

    • polizei

      dwindle? 1) You really think the majority of people were playing with hacked cars? 2) i really doubt they are concerned about an online community for a game that is 2 years old and requires very little to no cost to keep it up and running. 3) No one likes to put tons of hard work into a project only to have some people on the internet rip it apart and modify it. Sony’s response is actually quite fair, imo. They could have just banned accounts with hacked cars from PSN if they wanted to.

    • TakumiFuji01

      LOL You mad bro. Yep, the majority of people was using hacked cars.

  60. CaddyKOP

    “Waaaa! I’m not playing GT5 anymore!!! I’m gonna move to Forza!!!!”

    Great. Go ahead and move. The faithful GT5 players will be glad to see a lack of 9 year olds with their X1s in the lobbies.

    I say great move PD. :)

    • hookedonturbo

      I think you will find most of these people were faithful GT5 players like myself. Not just kids with X1’s…

    • JONGREY

      if your hacking the game, you are not a loyal GT5 player. Do I really need to say that…? I’m glad they did away with it. it’s spoiling the fun of a good tune.

    • fordskydog

      I agree with you almost completely.

      Sounds like Forza is the game for those who “just wanna modify the looks.” SURE.

      Don’t hate on the X1 though. It is fun and entirely race-able if you have enough skill.

    • fordskydog

      Yeah, if you’re hacking the game, you’re not a “faithful GT5 player.”

    • hookedonturbo

      Well GT5 is the only game I own, so I think I’m pretty “faithful”.

  61. Love the support, now I don’t get accused of using hacks during a 1/4 drag race when I win by two cars or more.

  62. nascarfn

    THANK YOU PD!!!!! i can now play a simulator as a sim :) and for those of you that liked the hacked cars GO PLAY NFS

    • STICH666

      I guess you’re not a fan of realistic engine swaps then…

    • MuoNiuLa

      Another person ignorant of what hybrids were really about.

    • fordskydog

      I guess you’re not a fan of fair play then.

      Even if there was 1/10th of 1% “good faith” hacks, the vast majority of cheaters make the gameplay unfair. You’d let your favorite game get ruined by cheaters over this??

      Go play NFS or Forza if you must have those aspects of the game.

      Leave GT5 to those of us who enjoy the game for what it touts itself to be: The Real Driving Sim.

    • lspredator

      and i guess you’re not a fan of what is possible in real world then :P

  63. TheGTGuy

    Great :) ill be on this later and ill up date.

  64. Thank you PD :)

  65. Ingenting87

    Please make an update so its possible to get the s13s and s14s more power… it is unrealistic that a s13 can max can have 400 hp… i thought it was supposed to be a “real” driving simulater..

    • The Stig Farmer

      ^Sorry Vacase but I can’t understand what you’re saying…

  66. mickoafna

    I like it. Thanks PD! Hope GT6 will be just as awesome as GT5.

  67. phil_75

    I was all for the banning until i realised you can change drivetrains etc, i thought it was just extra power.
    The proper course of action would have been a simple code update for online spec races and TTs, like if the car doesn’t match the spec/drivetrain/power that can be achieved with what PD originally coded for that certain car you cannot enter!
    I am so gutted i missed out on this modding from my own ignorance.
    I could have made the Focus Cosworth, Rally cross cars and so many others.
    PD have just took the quickest, easiest route and i presume its because they are extremely busy making these options to change drivetrains/engines/liveries, brilliantly advanced AI, amazing damage, proper tyre physics, fluid & fast UI, many more tracks, proper track builder, classic cars that aren’t just Japanese and decent replay movie maker/editor for GT6, or Kaz is jetting around the world trying to become a racing driver on Sonys money again.
    Should be no excuse why GT6 isn’t a launch or at worst afirst year PS4 title.

    • hookedonturbo

      We can only hope Phil… But at this rate I think PD have became blinkered as to what the actual majority of gamers want from a real life racing sim. You can all say hacking is cheating, but for me it was a means to modify cars to produce one off hybrids that not only looked awesome but had real life performance ratings, eg. 1000bhp JUN skylines, 1000bhp top secret supras, 1300hp lingenfelter corvettes, 500hp focus 4wd cosworths, real GT3 cars with downforce and proper lowering capabilities. Only just last night I even got around to making a rally cross c3 and mini. What a total waste of time that all was…

    • phil_75

      Oh mate, i wish i’d have met you a few weeks ago!
      So disappointed i missed out on some incredible cars i could have driven.
      I suppose the downside of that would have been that the game would have gotten dull now they’ve gone so i should look on the side of “what you don’t have you don’t miss”
      So hope GT6 has Fiesta/Escort/Sierra XR2,3,4,4×4, RS turbo, RS 1600i, RS2000, Cosworths, E30 M3, Mk1,2 Escort Mexico, Astra GTE/GSi, Capri 2.8i,280 Brooklands, Cavalier SRi 130, Calibra turbo 4×4 etc etc…

  68. Guardian

    Hacked cars have been removed?….

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha!

  69. lspredator

    I want play any more GT5 Now! it was fun. And why are some of you racist against those who hack, and make hybrids car and you say all of us ar cheaters. i have not been racing hybrids at all!
    and i did not make any unrealistic hybrids cars
    i mad
    – Kenneth Moen’s Formula Drift car: Toyota Supra MK4 wit 800hp
    – Fredric Aasbo’s 2JZ-GTE GT86
    – Steffen Moy’s: Rwd R32
    – Joachim Waagaard’s V8 RX-7
    – and my own car. 200sx s13 with 250hp CA18DET without spoiler
    – Drift Monkey’s 2JZ-GTE S14
    – Ryan Tureck’s 1JZ S13 and his 240sx s13 drift missile
    and DO NOT come here and say that any of those here are unrealistic cars!

    • HatmanTC

      won’t not want. racist is the wrong word to use in this situation. made not mad.

      just because you didn’t make unrealistic cars, doesn’t mean that there weren’t people out there that were doing that exact thing. it wouldn’t be fair to take away their cars and let you keep yours. plus, you violated your user agreement, so PD was in their right to do what they did.

    • Umbra344

      Racist against hacking? Oh boy do I enjoy getting up early in the morning to see such an intelligent community on this forum.

    • There unrealistic for gt5

    • TokoTurismo

      BUTT HUUUUURT!!! HAHAHA!! XD I

  70. First!!

  71. This mens dlc with Police cars may Come? I hope so!!!

    • Tvensky

      lol…. :D

      Im glad that PD did that banning and deleting stuff! thumbs up!

    • There are already police cars… You find them in the used as Skyline (Pace)

  72. DarthRaiden666

    Nice one PD!! :)

  73. Jawehawk

    Score one for PD.

  74. Cosbuster

    Want to play with hacked cars? Play offline. For the rest, good riddance.

    • lspredator

      no, i am going to drift in my real life car

      and, Nissan 200sx s13 96, pretty unrealistic right. Nissan did not produce Nissan 200sx s13 afther 1995

      In Europe the car was sold as a 200SX and only featured the CA18DET engine producing 169 PS (124 kW; 167 hp) through the rear wheels, taking it to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 7.5 seconds and onto 220 km/h.[3] The car had a facelift in 1991 with new smoother bumpers, limited slip differential, and larger brakes. This model was sold between 1989 and 1994 until the change to the 200SX s14 version.

  75. GTP_Versatile

    Not sure if to count this as a “yay” or a “nay” based on all the reasons stated in the post which currently has 963 comments. I’m leaning towards the “yay” though, the game lasted this long without the hacks/mods, so I don’t see why it can’t go on that way.

  76. If have to say this is quite sad, its almost covering face that their game isn’t perfectly free from being hacked, banning people using it was too far and so is this. I say PD need to calm down and realise they’re attacking the gaming the community by imposing these sanctions in their own creation.

  77. hookedonturbo

    No, it’s the people who think they are so great because all they drive is a nsx or a Ferrari 458! Lol

  78. dimbones

    At least your not banned like t10 would do so be glad you can at least still play..and good job PD..

    • Sele1981

      Well cheaters have to learn it the hard way… play fair or play alone (not you dimbones)… So T10 is on the right way…

  79. So what happens to all the people who were previously banned? Does this mean they can play online again?

  80. danbojte

    Well done PD! :tup:

    • danbojte

      And for the creativity fans, why don’t you create your one game, a GTH for example?!

  81. AKsLyricalKilla

    If this true… I won’t update as long as possible. Had a great time modding hot ‘realistic’ cars, hope GT6 has all the GT5 community dreams off or it bye bye xD

    • binbin90

      But you won’t be able to play the game without updating……

  82. Lets hope PD learn from this and see the bigger picture – ie. That players are crying out for more off-track customisation.

  83. tonyNOS

    R.I.P. GT5

  84. GTPskills

    Finally… Good job PD:-)

  85. Shqiptar

    It’s a sad day for mankind lol

  86. hookedonturbo

    Long live forza!

    • TokoTurismo

      LOL! Turn 10 bans people from their games. At least PD doesn’t.

  87. Good riddance.

  88. hookedonturbo

    Exactly! I had just finished making a Focus 4wd cossie, a Citroen C3 rally cross 600 bhp monster, and all sorts of proper cars that PD just didnt want allow! I might not even update now! This has pee’d me right off! They should have just banned the people who were using them in online races or TT. I was just using them in my private lounge with friends or offline just having a laugh power sliding a 600bhp C3 around trial mountain!

  89. The vocal minority of whiners will get their pacifiers and shut up soon, hopefully.

    • Oh, will you also be getting a blankie with your pacifier?

    • e30 freek

      Same can be said about you too hei

    • I’m not whining, I don’t care if I am banned from GT5. I am just having my fun.

  90. Leonidae@MFT

    Thank you PD, and good riddance to hacks who can’t win without cheating.

    • thelvynau

      Great to see someone with a open mind did it not occur to you that alot didnt use the hybrids to cheat but to setup t ealistic cars?

    • Tacobell18

      For alot of people winning wasnt even a factor. It was all about being creative with your cars. I understand there were lots of kids using 10000hp cars but those were just trolls. The best thing about hybrids was that you could be different than the other guy thats using the same car as yours. This was a huge benefit for the drifting community aswell.

  91. marcus1104

    Okay PD, hacking can be bad, but it brought inactive players back to the boring game. What you should have done is to add lets say 900hp power limiter to cars except Bugatti, F1 and Red Bull. Now see how many people would play your game anymore :) LMAO

  92. Dcogburn86

    I’m done with gt5 I’m selling gt5 & my ps3

  93. This is a very pleasant surprise from PD, didn’t think they would have done this so soon. What will be next?

  94. Tacobell18

    Now lets see how many people will still stick to this game lmao.

    • +100
      Sorry had too.

    • The vast majority of them.

    • aronh17

      I’m pretty sure the hacking has attracted the bored side of the community, so has only increased the player count. The true GT fan community are some pretty hardcore fans that will play for fun no matter what.

    • JohnyPiston

      Yup that’s me …playing no matter what!

  95. spikeyhairdude

    There goes most players.

  96. That’s a very cool RX7 in the screen shot, never seen one in that colour.

    Can’t wait for the hacks to slowly disappear, was getting a bit frustrating racing on some courses.

    • That color is a “hack” itself.

    • That’s a shame as that’s a cool colour, very similar to the one I painted my old skool rx7 which I use for drifting :)
      Would be nice if PD allowed more painting options in the next game but can only hope and pray.

  97. SavageEvil

    Awesome, now how about adding grip to pp calculations…there was a wider range of cars to utilize in the game online when we had that calc in there. They can also add the tires to the pp as well as it would really spice things up a bit. Just drop those ultra high grip ratings those tires somehow have. Here’s hoping, but with GT6 rumors abound I’m confused that PD are still pounding away at GT5’s online component.

  98. TokoTurismo

    Oh boy. *Grabs fresh popcorn and chair*

  99. Thank You PD…

  100. For those who want to play with surreal settings and do crazy stuff…you always have Mario Kart. ;)

    • thelvynau

      Or maybe the people who dont go online simply not update?

    • MeanElf

      But what if Spec III comes along? None of those who were acting so smug will be able to get it without updating.

    • You can if you have a second PS3 :sly:

      Oh, btw IF it comes along. IF.

    • Streeto

      …and what about those genuine car-enthusiasts who finally had the chance to do things that they wished to be in the game from the start? Realistic engine swaps, better wheel fitments, wing removal etc. ALL gone. Now it’s back to old boring GT5.

    • MeanElf

      So petition for it to return under PD’s guidance like it was in GT4…

      Yeah, that’s always an if there Hei.


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