This Gran Turismo 5 Bug Can Kill Your Game [UPDATE]
UPDATE: Kazunori Yamauchi has addressed this issue via Twitter, confirming that it will be fixed in the next game update to be released on February 18th:
Be fixed in the next update. Sorry for the inconvenience over. RT @co2_uk: This Gran Turismo 5 Bug Can Kill Your Game
Thank you, Kazunori, for the communications and quickly addressing the issue. Until the game update is available, everyone should still check their game save file to insure they will not be affected by the bug before then.
UPDATE 2: This bug was fixed in Gran Turismo 5 update v1.06.
Over the past few weeks, many Gran Turismo 5 players around the web have reported a very serious bug in the game’s save file: once it reaches 4165KB in size, it can no longer be used. When the game attempts to load the file, the following (somewhat misleading) PS3 error message will be displayed:
“Insufficient free space on hard disk drive (HDD). At least 32MB required. Please exit the game and free up some space. 0×00000015 [217]“
As of writing, it is unknown if there is any way to get around this error message, reduce the file’s size, or recover your data. Until Polyphony Digital resolves this issue in a future update, follow these guidelines to minimize its impact upon your own game progress.
Check Your Game’s Save File’s Size
To see if your game save may be at risk, check its file size in your PlayStation 3′s XMB. Under the “Game” menu, select the “Saved Data Utility” and look for Gran Turismo 5 in the list of files that appear. You should see the file size listed immediately underneath the logo. If it’s anywhere near 4165KB, you will be affected by the bug very soon and should pay special attention to the following advice in this post.
While you’re in that menu, take this opportunity to back up your game save file. Just plug a USB “thumb drive”, external USB hard drive, or other memory card into your PlayStation 3, hit the “Triangle” button on the controller, select “Copy”, and choose the device you want it backed up to. This won’t prevent the bug from affecting you, but it may help you recover your data later.
Slow Down the Growth of Your Save File
As mentioned above, this bug cannot be avoided by anyone – your GT5 game save file will only get larger as you continue to play. Simply loading up the game will cause it to increase by at least a few KB or so, and other more significant actions, such as buying new cars or parts, will make it grow even faster. However, the most serious threat to your game’s save file is browsing through “museum cards”.
Viewing museum cards can increase your file size by as much as several hundred KB or more. They are automatically gifted to you on a daily basis by the game, but this is not what causes your save file to grow by such a large amount – you must actually browse through them to significantly increase the size of the file. Presumably, the actual content of the cards is being stored or cached within the save file when you read them, resulting in accelerated growth.
If your file is closing in on the 4165KB threshold, I strongly advise you to avoid loading the museum cards. Indeed, it would be wise for everyone to avoid the museum feature until we have confirmation this bug has been resolved.
It should also be noted this issue applies only to the game save file - not the “game data” installed to the hard disk. As such, though downloading a program from Gran Turismo TV or saving a race replay may increase your game save file by a tiny amount, their actual content is stored elsewhere and is not a concern.
Will This Be Fixed?
It is not known if Polyphony Digital is yet aware of this issue, or if it will be corrected in the next GT5 update coming February 18th. Many other PlayStation 3 titles have save files which far exceed 4167KB in size, so it is not clear why this particular game is affected – hopefully it will be an easy fix for Kazunori Yamauchi’s team. Even if players avoid the museum card feature, it will only be a short matter of time before this issue becomes an even larger problem for more people in the coming weeks and months.
To help raise awareness of this bug, I encourage you to pass a link to this page around and contact PlayStation Support. For reference, here’s a few links to discussions by players who have already been affected by this issue, both here in the GTPlanet Forums and abroad. Let’s hope this gets resolved soon.
- Error Message 0×00000015[217] (“Not enough disk space…”) – GTRP.de
- Fatal Bug! – GTPlanet Forums
- Insufficient free space error – GTPlanet Forums
- Not enough memory? – Official PlayStation Community Forums
- Insufficient disk space? What the… – GameFAQs Forums
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:35 pm - #Read it again,
@K L btw…..
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February 15th, 2011 at 10:00 pm - #amazeCRAZE
I would like to point out that the Museum is disabled until the patch is fixed.
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm - #K L
I don’t see how any one can reach that many KB. It could be that save file that was hacked before the fix, using another person’s save file would be my guess.
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February 16th, 2011 at 10:31 pm - #Read it again,
Thanks. Always nice when people who don’t know what they’re talking about chime in.
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February 15th, 2011 at 10:08 am - #Yohdawg
Probably their best band aid yet. Better to just omit it completely if it is a problem.
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February 15th, 2011 at 1:00 pm - #Lol
Yohdawg shows up for class but appears to have problems with reading and comprehension……
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February 15th, 2011 at 6:35 am - #Anderson
Fast repair
Update?
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February 14th, 2011 at 8:02 pm - #bartonesq
There’s a new news release regarding this issue that can be viewed on GT5 in the menu. It says that the museum feature is unavailable until the next update.
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February 14th, 2011 at 2:28 pm - #Yohdawg
Actually I did read the original article and *gasped* I had also read every post as well before your accusation of not knowing anything. My issue(s) are that they have continued to let things slip that should not have been an issue in the first place.
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February 14th, 2011 at 1:52 pm - #ashley
my gt5 is being MEGA slow! its unbelievable how slow its being! i installed the latest update and about 2 3 weeks later, its suddenly barely working?! constantly freezing, taking a good 5 minutes to load up the game, keeps disconnecting me when i go to go online, could this be part of this aswell?
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February 14th, 2011 at 10:20 am - #william
im ok
Days 5000
File Size 680kb
Level 35
and 29
total cars 180
so yea im ok till the update comes -_- -
February 14th, 2011 at 1:48 am - #Yohdawg
I know that these file sizes seem large for a lot of people but it makes me wonder more about PDs lack of beta testers and trouble shooters. How could something like this seriously slip by?
Does the team actually have employees playing their own game that they have failed to spot so many errors? If the dev team isn’t even playing their golden egg then that’s got to say something about how they feel about it.
Patch it along with the other mess that has yet to be fixed. Shame on you PD…
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February 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am - #Sam
+1
How can such an important game be so unfinished and I d even say unproduced ?
In 10 years from now, we ll learn that GT5′s developpment was a total mess, just like it happens with some movies… -
February 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am - #pudge
Sorry, but it’s hard to see how beta testing would necessarily uncover this. I do software development for a living, and this is a bug that obviously requires a weird, and difficult, and very long-term, set of circumstances to uncover. As noted above, I have over 800 different cars, I am level 29 A-spec and level 40 B-spec, and I am not even at 2000KB let alone over 4000KB.
How do you propose this would’ve been caught? It’s easy to say that testers should regularly document what they do each session, and note the filesize … but even if they do that, and find out that museum viewing bloats filesizes, unless they test museum viewing over a period of months, they will only know they have a problem with a slightly bloated save file, not that such a larger save file cannot be opened by the game. They would only bother to test larger filesize loading if they thought there might be a problem with it, and if they thought that, it would’ve been fixed before release, or in one of the early updates.
And they already said it will be patched this Friday: did you not read the first few lines of the story?
Shame on you for not knowing what you’re talking about, and for not reading the whole post.
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February 14th, 2011 at 3:27 pm - #damaged_case
@Sam
you COULD say unproduced… if you didn’t know that the definition of “produced” is made or manufactured, and adding the prefix “un” would mean it isn’t made or manufactured. that Gran Turismo 5 exists means, by default (and should go without saying), that it has been produced.
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February 13th, 2011 at 10:04 pm - #ismellbacon61
its cancer for playstation!!!
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February 13th, 2011 at 7:27 pm - #pudge
I 813 different cars (815 cars total), so I was worried … but my saved game is not even 2000KB, leta alone over 4000KB.
I’ve only used the museum a couple of times.
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February 13th, 2011 at 1:03 pm - #ISMZmj
Thank you for the info Jordan.
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February 13th, 2011 at 11:57 am - #Tim
Unsual , considering i have a afrika save game that is 387mb i hope this gets sorted.
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February 13th, 2011 at 11:06 am - #JasonMann
anyone know features of the update to come (besides this fix and the b-spec feature thingy-majigger)?
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February 13th, 2011 at 10:23 am - #D.Kadettdriver
I had this error message once, shortly after the first update.
Removed all of the GT5 data except my savegame, and reinstalled. Message was gone and the game worked fine again.
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February 13th, 2011 at 9:43 am - #DarthRaiden666
Mine is 866kb, but I have stopped playing the game for now, until it is patched. Plus I need a break off GT5, so playing GT PSP instead.
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:52 am - #McClarenDesign
Thanks to all at PD for responding to this, and apparently many more requests with the next update.
Props for putting the haters in their place.
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:19 am - #paulali
Mine is at 8333kb, mine is fine, although i back up regularly.
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:02 am - #TonyLomas
Mine is at 7526MB! And includes 5 updates for the chromeline cars, does that mean I’m ok? It’s always worked but I’ve never checked the file size until now.
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February 13th, 2011 at 8:04 am - #TonyLomas
Ignore that, I was looking in the wrong place. :(
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I just had this happen to me. Mar 8, 2011. After patch 1.08 for gt5 (to stop the ssr7 glitch) and ps3 system update 3.60 installed. wtf!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant even back up my game because 3.60 took that ability out because now they are forcing you to buy ps plus memberships. F!!!