2014 NASCAR Thread

[Blitz24]

The addition to the rule is that drivers and crew members are not allowed to approach the racing surface. the other rules had been there previously and this means they're going to heavily enforce them now.

This can be twisted in so many ways though it's sad. Remember the rule NASCAR said that all drivers need to give 100%? Technically pitroad is still the racing surface as cars battle for position there, so the rule will be violated about 260 times per race .

 

[GTPorsche]

This can be twisted in so many ways though it's sad. Remember the rule NASCAR said that all drivers need to give 100%? Technically pitroad is still the racing surface as cars battle for position there, so the rule will be violated about 260 times per race .

That 100% rule was stupid.

Also, I don't believe pitboxes are part of this ruling, otherwise the races would be as far as the last car to run out of fuel can go.

 

[Blitz24]

That 100% rule was stupid.

Also, I don't believe pitboxes are part of this ruling, otherwise the races would be as far as the last car to run out of fuel can go.

If it is though:
If you don't pit to avoid the going on racing surface violation: Penalty for not giving 100%.
If you do pit to avoid the 100% violation: Penalty for going on racing surface.

NASCAR lines their pockets more.

That's why they wanted the Union that's not a Union that we are calling a Union (but it really isn't a Union).

 

[meek]

Joe Gibbs to announce next Tuesday Carl Edwards as its fourth Sprint Cup driver for the 2015 season and Mexican 22-year-old Daniel Suarez in Nationwide Series for JGR (full time?), according to Motorsport.com.

I hope CE keeps #99.

Chill on the attitude man, you are hardly a vet here either. And multi-post has existed for what, week or so?

multiquote has come in the past 2 weeks, multipost, as in every other forum, is frowned upon, and always has been. There's an edit button for a reason.
As for the attitude, I was the first one here to say Ryan Blaney would be driving for Wood Brothers, but mister GTPorsche wasn't satisfied with my "sources", which was WBR's twitter itself, but he's perfectly happy to link to WBR.com and consider it more credible

It was 4+ hours between posts, I thought it was a reasonable enough time that a new post would be better served than editing and potentially having no one see it until hours later.

Also, I'd say the team giving a press release about it is what makes it official, not who's being followed on social media.

me, a week before the announcement was made: Ryan Blaney will be driving for WBR in 2015.
You: not happening/don't say this like it's a fact.
A week later: fact.

You never asked for an official statement, but a source.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah saw the information on NASCAR website for Tuesday announcement

@meek the mods have said that if it is important news for the topic at hand and there has been reasonable enough time between the multi-posts it is fine.

Also if there is a contract deal for the number from Roush then I'm sure it will go with him, but it's hard to see such a prestigious number (to that team) leave. The 6 is also in this category due to nearly winning a championship or two.

 

[BKGlover]

I've seen enough of this, meek.

BK= Brad Keselowski, a Penske driver, Blaney drives the #29 Truck for Brad Keselowski Racing...

What series does that team run? Do you not realize that Ryan has run the PENSKE #22 in Nationwide, AND I believe he attempted Pocono for Cup in the PENSKE #12. Keselowski's team operates in the same manner as KBR and Jr. Motorsport as a support team, as the main team doesn't hold a presence. There is no Penske truck team, nor a Gibbs one, and Hendrick is Cup only, IIRC. Blaney is a Penske Driver by contract, and will remain so even while driving for Brad or the Wood Bros.

I'm surprised a GTP vet likes you doesn't know to not multipost, especially to contradict someone who's not wrong.

Multiposting is making the exact same post multiple times in a row, almost always in immediate succession. Each post is timestamped both upon posting and on editing if not edited immediately, and there's a four hour gap between his two post.

M'kay, woodbrothersracing.com is official but their twitter isn't

I don't believe anything until either it's pen-to-paper or it actually exist. Let's make this clear, social media of any kind is NEVER to be trusted. Personally, I don't put any significant weight into anything from the internet.

First 2015 scheme (not official according to GTPorche cos I'm the one posting it, remember?):

Zest, NOS, Fifth Third Bank and EcoBoost are indeed returning as #17 sponsors.

IMHO the sides are absolutely ugly and kill the PS.

If you have a problem with GTPorsche, start a convo with you two and a mod and get over it there. Until then, PS goes at the end of a letter, POS is the acronym used to describe things while avoiding the filter and AUP issues.

 

[RACECAR]

Are you really getting mad just for being "first" to post news? You're not winning anything so I don't see the need for it. You either post it first or not, but don't turn it into a petty squabble. As some have said, don't trust social media. You can say that this has happened but until its actually official and you've got enough confirmed source to say so, don't post it as official.

Now just forget about this and lets just move on, Life's complicated enough without nonsensical things like this to get mad over.

 

[RVDNuT374]

In news not related to arguing over the validity of news sources, Jeff Gordon won the pole for Sunday's race with a average speed of nearly 207 MPH. 👍

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

In news not related to arguing over the validity of news sources, Jeff Gordon won the pole for Sunday's race with a average speed of nearly 207 MPH. 👍

Yeah the top three guys went over 205 pretty cool.

 

[Johnny1996]

Hearing this, the first thought that comes to my mind is restrictor plates. Just the general term/thought.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Hearing this, the first thought that comes to my mind is restrictor plates. Just the general term/thought.

They've always done 200-202 mph the Gen 6 has just upped it a bit, and that's not in a draft same with the 205 and 206. I don't think the cars need to be restricted they tend to be pretty safe around Michigan and other fast mile and a half.

 

[Johnny1996]

They've always done 200-202 mph the Gen 6 has just upped it a bit, and that's not in a draft same with the 205 and 206.

This statement I'm about to make is likely going to add nothing to the thread, but I love power. And the engineering that makes such things possible.

 

[meek]

They've always done 200-202 mph the Gen 6 has just upped it a bit, and that's not in a draft same with the 205 and 206. I don't think the cars need to be restricted they tend to be pretty safe around Michigan and other fast mile and a half.

Michigan's a 2 miler lol

@RACECAR
You misread, and also mistyped referring.
He didn't say Michigan and fast mile and half tracks, he said Michigan and other fast miles and half (-->Michigan=1.5mi)

 

[RACECAR]

Michigan's a 2 miler lol

You seem to have misread his post. He didn't say Michigan wasn't a 2 mile track, he was reffering to other tracks.

 

[TB]

The bitching about semantics is strong in this thread. And it's quite annoying.

If everyone would check their weapons and attitudes at the door, that'd be fantastic.

 

[meek]

What series does that team run? Do you not realize that Ryan has run the PENSKE #22 in Nationwide, AND I believe he attempted Pocono for Cup in the PENSKE #12. Keselowski's team operates in the same manner as KBR and Jr. Motorsport as a support team, as the main team doesn't hold a presence. There is no Penske truck team, nor a Gibbs one, and Hendrick is Cup only, IIRC. Blaney is a Penske Driver by contract, and will remain so even while driving for Brad or the Wood Bros.

I never said Ryan Blaney wasn't a Penske driver, just that he drives [full time and for points] for Brad Keselowski Racing.
Look at this post then GTPorsche's useless reply (and subsequent multipost, don't tell me he couldn't edit to add to the first @LMSCorvetteGT2) below.

If you have a problem with GTPorsche, start a convo with you two and a mod and get over it there. Until then, PS goes at the end of a letter, POS is the acronym used to describe things while avoiding the filter and AUP issues.

PS=paint scheme, pretty obvious when you see what immediately follows and the comments made about Stenhouse's sponsors.
Please refrain yourself from replying to me and contacting mods if you've only breezed through the thread or posts.

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Yeah saw the information on NASCAR website for Tuesday announcement

supposedly involves all 4 series, is Edwards even going to be mentionned?

Also if there is a contract deal for the number from Roush then I'm sure it will go with him, but it's hard to see such a prestigious number (to that team) leave. The 6 is also in this category due to nearly winning a championship or two.

It is my understanding car numbers actually are owned by NASCAR, not teams.

Example 1, #29:
Was Harvick's last year at RCR. Has been used by Matt Crafton and Joe Nemechek in 2 (failed) race attempts this year, RAB Racing Toyotas.

Example 2, #41:
RPM's Almirola ran a #41 Ford in one 2013 race (second Martinsville date, for a Maurice Petty HoF induction tribute). That number is in use this season by another team and driver, SHR's Kurt Busch.

Example 3, #52:
Used by various Ford drivers running for Bob Keselowski in 2013, it entered this year's Daytona 500 with Bobby Labonte in a HScott Motorsports Chevrolet.

Example 4, #99:
A RFR Ford in Cup.
A RAB Racing Toyota driven by James Buescher in Nationwide. RFR is in Nationwide so if the #99 belonged to the team how can a driver from another team running another engine can have the number ?
A T3R Motorsports Chevrolet driven by Bryan Silas in Trucks.

Lastly, this tells me #99 doesn't have that much other, separate history for Ford/RFR, no offense to Jeff Burton!

 

[TB]

Look at this post then GTPorsche's useless reply (and subsequent multipost, don't tell me he couldn't edit to add to the first @LMSCorvetteGT2) below.

It's separated by a few hours and adds new information. It's fine. Let the mods do the modding, please.

 

[Gerarghini]

Where's @ICEYOU when you need him

 

[Northstar]

It is my understanding car numbers actually are owned by NASCAR, not teams.

Teams license numbers on a yearly basis with the team holding it the previous year getting priority over other teams that may want to use it. I'm not sure how many one team can have, but they don't have to use it in order to hold the license, for instance, SHR wanted to use the #4 in 2009 for Newman but Morgan-McClure still held the license(and priority for 2009) even though they didn't compete in 2008.

 

[BKGlover]

PS=paint scheme, pretty obvious when you see what immediately follows and the comments made about Stenhouse's sponsors.
Please refrain yourself from replying to me and contacting mods if you've only breezed through the thread or posts.

Considering you put PS at the very end of your post, you couldn't take three seconds and type that out, and looking at it again POS still fits.

Do you really want to start throwing accusations around? I don't know if any has reported you, nor do I care. I haven't, but...I can change that if you REEEEEALLLLY want it. Keep talking down to people, lets see how long you stay.

 

[MustangRyan]

Teams license numbers on a yearly basis with the team holding it the previous year getting priority over other teams that may want to use it. I'm not sure how many one team can have, but they don't have to use it in order to hold the license, for instance, SHR wanted to use the #4 in 2009 for Newman but Morgan-McClure still held the license(and priority for 2009) even though they didn't compete in 2008.

This is why Richard Childress had held the #3 for thirteen years, even though he wasn't actively using it. He reapplied for the number every year, if only to keep other teams from using it. I doubt anyone would have requested to use it, if only out of respect. But, it was better for Richard to reserve the number and be sure.

 

[Ganon83]

Hearing Milka Duno's first Nationwide start might be at Bristol This will not end well

 

[RACECAR]

Hearing Milka Duno's first Nationwide start might be at Bristol This will not end well

 

[Gerarghini]

Hearing Milka Duno's first Nationwide start might be at Bristol This will not end well

FTFY

Regardless, her first start should be, uh, interesting?

 

[meek]

Teams license numbers on a yearly basis with the team holding it the previous year getting priority over other teams that may want to use it. I'm not sure how many one team can have, but they don't have to use it in order to hold the license, for instance, SHR wanted to use the #4 in 2009 for Newman but Morgan-McClure still held the license(and priority for 2009) even though they didn't compete in 2008.

Good stuff, thanks!

http://www.nascar.com/en_us/sprint-...-edu/rules-guy/breaking-down-car-numbers.html
http://sportsandentertainmentlaw.ncbar.org/newsletters/thefrontrowjune2013/nascarnumbers

RFR can screw Edwards out of #99 if they wanted to (assuming CE wants to keep it), then, you think they would?

Considering you put PS at the very end of your post, you couldn't take three seconds and type that out, and looking at it again POS still fits.
Do you really want to start throwing accusations around? I don't know if any has reported you, nor do I care. I haven't, but...I can change that if you REEEEEALLLLY want it. Keep talking down to people, lets see how long you stay.

no, the very end of my post was 2 pictures of a paint scheme (PS)

I had never seen a mod on this thread until you posted you "(had) seen enough of this, meek." and I don't believe in coincidences.
You're premium, not a staff member, put me on ignore. I'd do the same if I knew how to.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

supposedly involves all 4 series, is Edwards even going to be mentionned?

I'll look again and edit accordingly

It is my understanding car numbers actually are owned by NASCAR, not teams.

Example 1, #29:
Was Harvick's last year at RCR. Has been used by Matt Crafton and Joe Nemechek in 2 (failed) race attempts this year, RAB Racing Toyotas.

Example 2, #41:
RPM's Almirola ran a #41 Ford in one 2013 race (second Martinsville date, for a Maurice Petty HoF induction tribute). That number is in use this season by another team and driver, SHR's Kurt Busch.

Example 3, #52:
Used by various Ford drivers running for Bob Keselowski in 2013, it entered this year's Daytona 500 with Bobby Labonte in a HScott Motorsports Chevrolet.

Example 4, #99:
A RFR Ford in Cup.
A RAB Racing Toyota driven by James Buescher in Nationwide. RFR is in Nationwide so if the #99 belonged to the team how can a driver from another team running another engine can have the number ?
A T3R Motorsports Chevrolet driven by Bryan Silas in Trucks.

Lastly, this tells me #99 doesn't have that much other, separate history for Ford/RFR, no offense to Jeff Burton!

Well Roush doesn't have much history beyond the 90s alone as far as making an impact on NASCAR and being a team to beat.

Also I'm talking about Cup the teams have other histories in the feeder series with seperate numbers that you can evaluate on Wikipedia really if you want to go into semantics about them. However, DEI with the number 8 wouldn't budge to give it up, when Junior wanted to carry it over.

RCR with Childress would only give up the number 3 to Junior but after he said he didn't want to use it or race it in his career...well we know where it now sits.

Also for example, the 6 has been held on to by Roush and virtually not raced the past two years and it's slated to be brought back by the team for Bayne next year. So I believe there is an ability by teams to hold on to numbers with NASCAR allowing them, but like all things NASCAR the rules are murky, you can find as many situations (though vague) that depicts two teams using a number but the opposite can be found like I've shown.

Teams license numbers on a yearly basis with the team holding it the previous year getting priority over other teams that may want to use it. I'm not sure how many one team can have, but they don't have to use it in order to hold the license, for instance, SHR wanted to use the #4 in 2009 for Newman but Morgan-McClure still held the license(and priority for 2009) even though they didn't compete in 2008.

Luckily @Justin to save the day and clear it up and that's why we're glad to have him back. 👍

EDIT:

Also at meek we've had staff users on here before like Wardez and they watch this thread constantly due to new members that usually come through and try to play semantics. If you want to ignore a user go to their profile page and then click the ignore button that you will see next to the follow button.

 

[TB]

I had never seen a mod on this thread until you posted you "(had) seen enough of this, meek." and I don't believe in coincidences.

Just because you've never seen us doesn't mean we're not around.

put me on ignore. I'd do the same if I knew how to.

The FAQ would be a good place to start. 👍

 

[Furinkazen]

So according to twitter - cars are hitting top speeds of 218mph and Ryan Truex just had a major wreck in practise.

 

[GTPorsche]

So according to twitter - cars are hitting top speeds of 218mph and Ryan Truex just had a major wreck in practise.

He's being transported to a local hospital as a precaution.

 

[Jahgee]

Trucks are on in 1 and a half hours on Fox Sports 1
Busch Series is on in 4 hours on ESPN