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[RacingManiac]

Quick VRC Supertourer impression, honestly this is just first pass, a quick run at Donington Park 2018 with basically the default setup then tweak a few things for one more run. Tried all 3 cars then tried the Primera to compare. Handling balances are pretty similar between the new VRCs vs the Nissan car. But VRCs are even twitchier than the Nissan which is interesting. There seems to be more going on with the VRC cars that causes them to move around more especially at the last stage of coming off brake then getting some steering input it. You kinda have to try pretty hard to manage the brake to not lock up to jerk the car into over or understeer. Nissan was like that, but this just seems more so. I tried the Mondeo first then Vectra than Accord. I ran the best time with the Vectra for whatever reason, but I think I need to go back to try the Mondeo again. I used the CSP version of the cars and their tire temps take longer to come up vs the Nissan. Nissan just felt easier to start really pushing. Note I also did not have any setup for the Nissan since I haven't used it since I switched PC so its still relatively blind comparison. Nissan ended up being ~1.5 sec faster for me given the similar amount of running(<10 laps for each car).
Not many "modern" ish cars have this kind of knife edge balancing the car to get them to go around the corner vs these touring cars and its really fun to drive. Need to spend more time in them....
Also can't wait to see all the period skins for the VRCs...
This also affirms how good the PM3DM cars are, consider they are free. Yes VRC cars are their usual HQ selves but it was really good to drive the Nissan again to compare.

 

[graveltrap]

that cant be....csp extended physics only works to make the tires slide in the wet.

I believe ticking the check box in the content manager will add rain physics to a car in the game, but there is a far greater range of possibility when you look at the Trello which contains the code that can be added to the ini files to alter the physics... Look and read each section under physics extensions to see how it can be used.

 

[ales100i]

I wish people would stop saying extended physics is only rain physics. It's like 10 things, if not more (camber changes, tyre heating, cooling, tyre wear, tyre falloff, chassis flex (sort of),....). This are the lut files from a vrc car (picture 1 - 148 in total), and in picture 2 is a normal car from rss with no extended physics (46 lut files in total). So over 100 aditional files just for rain?

Anyway the PM3D cars are around 2 seconds a lap faster. What I did was make a copy of both PM3D cars with car tuner, added all the lut files from VRC (cause I don't know which are for tyres) and replaced the tyres with VRC ones, and added extended-2 to car.ini. I also edited the minimum ride height of the Volvo and the Primera from 0.0045 to 0.0055 (as in VRC cars), and adjusted ride heights accordingly (don't know which is more correct, so I went with VRC). And that is it, all the cars now run within a second of each other.

Meanwhile this is truly BTCC as I remember it from the 90s . Last lap of a 10 lap race at Knockhill (you have to put the AI at 100% agression. You just have to, no way around it ):

 

[carTOON]

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[StoffelWaffle]

montagne de meringue

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Nice track, seem to have forgotten my snow glasses tho

 

[ApexVGear]

Thanks @petercrill and @shi for this awesome combo. Excellent for VR as well.

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Assetto Corsa PC Mods General Discussion

IIRC the 156 came after the crazy super tourer era ended? there are 2 version of the 156: Super Turing and later for the ETCC Series:

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Circuit Piddy

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So yeah, tomorrow we will get superb quality Honda Accord, Ford Mondeo and Opel Vectra super touring cars. Nice to see my prediction was right on lines to bring a Vauxhall & Mondeo. Now we are getting decent Super touring mods coming out somebody need to have a look at doing a decent BTC-T...

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[carTOON]

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Nice track, seem to have forgotten my snow glasses tho

Ohhh! Mate, why are so white? On my PC it's more contrasty...

 

[StoffelWaffle]

Ohhh! Mate, why are so white? On my PC it's more contrasty...

Well I don't know. And it's only your track that does that lol. Maybe some CSP magic, who knows.

 

[Interwebs]

I wish people would stop saying extended physics is only rain physics. It's like 10 things, if not more (camber changes, tyre heating, cooling, tyre wear, tyre falloff, chassis flex (sort of),....). This are the lut files from a vrc car (picture 1 - 148 in total), and in picture 2 is a normal car from rss with no extended physics (46 lut files in total). So over 100 aditional files just for rain?

Anyway the PM3D cars are around 2 seconds a lap faster. What I did was make a copy of both PM3D cars with car tuner, added all the lut files from VRC (cause I don't know which are for tyres) and replaced the tyres with VRC ones, and added extended-2 to car.ini. I also edited the minimum ride height of the Volvo and the Primera from 0.0045 to 0.0055 (as in VRC cars), and adjusted ride heights accordingly (don't know which is more correct, so I went with VRC). And that is it, all the cars now run within a second of each other.

Meanwhile this is truly BTCC as I remember it from the 90s . Last lap of a 10 lap race at Knockhill (you have to put the AI at 100% agression. You just have to, no way around it ):

I too found the PM3DM cars to be about 2 seconds faster. Around Brands Hatch GP, I was able to adjust the setup for both the Nissan and Volvo and get the rear planted (suits my driving style). With the Mondeo (as I have read this is the most lively of the 3), I've done what I can in terms of setup but still find myself about 2 seconds slower per lap.

As for the PM3DM FWD cars, are you able to advise where you find the static ride height setting in the data folder? Or are you adjusting the spring rate under the suspensions.ini file to raise it, then changing the setup options under the setup.ini to prevent the spring rate from being modified to be able to drop too low? I was able to do the latter for the BMW with some success, but not the Volvo (I fear the spring rate would become too stiff) and haven't touched the Nissan yet.

 

[ales100i]

I too found the PM3DM cars to be about 2 seconds faster. Around Brands Hatch GP, I was able to adjust the setup for both the Nissan and Volvo and get the rear planted (suits my driving style). With the Mondeo (as I have read this is the most lively of the 3), I've done what I can in terms of setup but still find myself about 2 seconds slower per lap.

As for the PM3DM FWD cars, are you able to advise where you find the static ride height setting in the data folder? Or are you adjusting the spring rate under the suspensions.ini file to raise it, then changing the setup options under the setup.ini to prevent the spring rate from being modified to be able to drop too low? I was able to do the latter for the BMW with some success, but not the Volvo (I fear the spring rate would become too stiff) and haven't touched the Nissan yet.

In the car.ini

 

[carTOON]

Well I don't know. And it's only your track that does that lol. Maybe some CSP magic, who knows.

Sorry... just delete this.

 

[nanenab]

 

[Sebviitel]

Is it just me or something very off with VRC Touring Pack FFB?



Kinda regret buying but of course on other hand supporting these mod groups allows them to keep putting out more content.

 

[Diegonapoli10]

Is it just me or something very off with VRC Touring Pack FFB?



Kinda regret buying but of course on other hand supporting these mod groups allows them to keep putting out more content.

wich wheelbase?

iam on a DD1 and have pretty bad oscellation on these cars.. all the other cars work fine

 

[RacingManiac]

No issue with the TS-PC here, to me they don't feel that different to the PM3DM cars

 

[Sebviitel]

wich wheelbase?

iam on a DD1 and have pretty bad oscellation on these cars.. all the other cars work fine

T300RS.

This doesn't feel like PM3DM , when ffb loads up with vrc just has strange feel.

 

[safi hellie]

I wish people would stop saying extended physics is only rain physics. It's like 10 things, if not more (camber changes, tyre heating, cooling, tyre wear, tyre falloff, chassis flex (sort of),....). This are the lut files from a vrc car (picture 1 - 148 in total), and in picture 2 is a normal car from rss with no extended physics (46 lut files in total). So over 100 aditional files just for rain?

Anyway the PM3D cars are around 2 seconds a lap faster. What I did was make a copy of both PM3D cars with car tuner, added all the lut files from VRC (cause I don't know which are for tyres) and replaced the tyres with VRC ones, and added extended-2 to car.ini. I also edited the minimum ride height of the Volvo and the Primera from 0.0045 to 0.0055 (as in VRC cars), and adjusted ride heights accordingly (don't know which is more correct, so I went with VRC). And that is it, all the cars now run within a second of each other.

Meanwhile this is truly BTCC as I remember it from the 90s . Last lap of a 10 lap race at Knockhill (you have to put the AI at 100% agression. You just have to, no way around it ):

nothing to do with VRC cars or RSS cars, it was someone saying that every car in your collection has these data files added when you click extended physics, which I am doubting.
If these tourers have it great, but every single car automatically has these feature's done well by clicking a box?

 

[nanenab]

If you have issues, what version of the cars are you using? The csp one requiers csp 1.80, which is not out, weird for them to include it.

 

[Mikke73]

If you have issues, what version of the cars are you using? The csp one requiers csp 1.80, which is not out, weird for them to include it.

The requirement is actually 1.78 or above, this was on VRC's Discord and they will correct the UI info in the next update.

 

[Fumblefap]

Hey there guys. Since everybody's talking about these new VRC touring cars, and how the 3DM ones are faster, could anybody suggest a ballast/restrictor setup to equalize the 3DM ones? I don't really feel like changing the data files.

 

[Warren B]

Anyway the PM3D cars are around 2 seconds a lap faster. What I did was make a copy of both PM3D cars with car tuner, added all the lut files from VRC (cause I don't know which are for tyres) and replaced the tyres with VRC ones, and added extended-2 to car.ini. I also edited the minimum ride height of the Volvo and the Primera from 0.0045 to 0.0055 (as in VRC cars), and adjusted ride heights accordingly (don't know which is more correct, so I went with VRC). And that is it, all the cars now run within a second of each other.

It would be awesome if you would be kind enough to share this with the community, for those who have no clue how to do it themselves, or dont want to mess around with data files, since it wouldn't be sharing a paid mod, there wouldnt be a real issue, right?

 

[Twisteddrift]

A good way to start 2023.

 

[Fanapryde]

Nice track, seem to have forgotten my snow glasses tho

As it seems you are not the only one, but it looks fine on my system:

 

[chas1723]

You were suggesting that every single car and mod in AC now automatically has data files added if you click extended physics. I don't believe this is true. If one mod by VRC has it then fine, great, I'm not disputing that.

I found myself after sitting down to hammer the super tourers, trying out a skoda mod I found on another forum (sorry can't link it here) and spent a silly amount of time with those, not sure how accurate to the skodas they are based on and i don't really care, but they felt ace to slam around with and seem to be custom physics, certainly no kunos in there.

well all you have to do is take a look in your recycle bin. everytime you load a car with extended physics checked, it creates a temporary data file that it uses. once you finish with that car, the temporary data file goes into the recycle bin. This is my recycle bin from today. I am through arguing as you seem stuck in your ways without knowing or even trying what I have suggested.

 

[Azura24]

Hello dudes and dudettes, long time lurker, first time poster, I just wanted to thank you all on this forum,
from scratch made mods to the changing on track greenery and track cam's, I really appreciate you all and what you do.
Thank you for making AC an amazing sim. Merci et bonne nuit.

 

[xezez]

Aston Martin Racing - LM Valvoline Livery #2

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You and Masscot should get together and create the 'Vantage Littlebird' with 250 excellent skins!

 

[MrB00]

well all you have to do is take a look in your recycle bin. everytime you load a car with extended physics checked, it creates a temporary data file that it uses. once you finish with that car, the temporary data file goes into the recycle bin. This is my recycle bin from today. I am through arguing as you seem stuck in your ways without knowing or even trying what I have suggested.

Not wanting to fuel any more arguments but I have never seen a temporary data.acd in my recycle bin after using extended physics so no idea what setting you have ticked for yours to do that. altho in all fairness the only time i've ticked the extended physics box is with the VRC Touring cars but I've driven them all quite a lot over the last day or so and not had any mystery ACD files in my bin 😁

 

[samdale12]

Not wanting to fuel any more arguments but I have never seen a temporary data.acd in my recycle bin after using extended physics so no idea what setting you have ticked for yours to do that. altho in all fairness the only time i've ticked the extended physics box is with the VRC Touring cars but I've driven them all quite a lot over the last day or so and not had any mystery ACD files in my bin 😁

It is the box on the 'Drive' tab - 'Use extended physics (experimental)'. As far as I can tell, this only does something where the car DOES NOT have extended physics built in natively (which the VRC ERC cars do). If you check this box, CM/CSP injects some basic code into a temporary data.acd for that session only and deletes it on completion. That gives you the basics of CSP extended physics (wet grip, tyre heating [I think]), but not to the same extent where it has been specifically built in as part of the mod (where each element is customised to the particular car).

What you are likely seeing is no data.acd in your Recycle Bin because you've only ticked the box on a car that automatically has extended physics (ie; you don't need to tick that box to access it), and therefore CM/CSP doesn't need to generate the file.

 

[safi hellie]

It is the box on the 'Drive' tab - 'Use extended physics (experimental)'. As far as I can tell, this only does something where the car DOES NOT have extended physics built in natively (which the VRC ERC cars do). If you check this box, CM/CSP injects some basic code into a temporary data.acd for that session only and deletes it on completion. That gives you the basics of CSP extended physics (wet grip, tyre heating [I think]), but not to the same extent where it has been specifically built in as part of the mod (where each element is customised to the particular car).

What you are likely seeing is no data.acd in your Recycle Bin because you've only ticked the box on a car that automatically has extended physics (ie; you don't need to tick that box to access it), and therefore CM/CSP doesn't need to generate the file.

So way off doing a huge amount unless its rain then really. Unless the modder like VRC goes beyond that.... and if they do CSP doesn't change anything on that car.....ok. So non extended physics isn't missing much then? Although its easy enough to use if wanted.

Anyway..... this.

 

[racinjoe013]

Making some good progress. Got the flags done except for a few of the marshall flags. One thing though, anyone know how to add wavy effects to the texture. Kind of hard to explain what I mean but the flags look kind of flat. The Spa flag textures I used had this wavy look to them. I didn't do them so I have no idea how that was achieved.

Also got too fooling with one of the grass textures to change up the look. You've got the default dry look, a greenish look and a lush look. Probably need more saturation in the greens, but it's a nice change of pace so it doesn't always look so dried out. Got the idea from a picture @Fanapryde posted a few pages back of the real track. I was surprised at how green everything was in real life.

Default Dry:

Greenish:

Lush:

Happy New Year everyone...