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[Rodger Davies]

Hello!

As some of you may already know, Pasta2000 and Myself are in the work to bring the Datsun Fairlady 2000 into our beloved sim. The goal is to create 3 differents versions of the "same" car, depending on the race period, very much japanese. We will have a stock cabriolet one, a first generation racing from 1967-68 and a second generation racing from 1969-1970. Project is well underway, 3D modelling is very close to an end now, so we can hope for a release in a few weeks, maybe a month, we'll see.

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On another note, this is also in the work (actually, was, before Pasta came along changing all my plans) :
Frazer-Nash coupe Le Mans 1953, with the goal of bringing it along with her main rival, the Bristol 450, as a package of 2 different cars from the same period correct race (Le Mans, you guest it)

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That's it, just a bit of an update

See ya soon!

Hot, hotter and hottest versions of the Fairlady - love it thank you!

As for the '50s stuff, very interesting too - the Frazer-Nash is gorgeous but the Bristol is..... an acquired taste - some of the weirdest aero I can remember seeing photos of from Le Mans! I look forward to acquiring said taste.

 

[J2116]

Someone else has taken this job
I will tell you If need your help
thank you

Sure thing man

 

[Alguecool]

Hot, hotter and hottest versions of the Fairlady - love it thank you!

As for the '50s stuff, very interesting too - the Frazer-Nash is gorgeous but the Bristol is..... an acquired taste - some of the weirdest aero I can remember seeing photos of from Le Mans! I look forward to acquiring said taste.

I have a thing for weirdos, I guess
But that would make it also my most successful car on the Le Mans race. Both of them were very competitive, but the 450 took first, second and third in her class in 54, with a best at 7th finished overall (for a 2L car). Compared to the previous cars I made, it's quite the change

(I made a typo in my post, i'm doing the 1954 version of the Frazer Nash and the Bristol, my bad)

 

[Aaron Green]

Hot, hotter and hottest versions of the Fairlady - love it thank you!

As for the '50s stuff, very interesting too - the Frazer-Nash is gorgeous but the Bristol is..... an acquired taste - some of the weirdest aero I can remember seeing photos of from Le Mans! I look forward to acquiring said taste.

God damn. I just gave the Bristol a goggles... It's HORRID. Looking forward to having more different period cars though! That Fraser-Nash is lovely looking.

 

[racealot]

...and since having the decals handy, thought to spruce up the grid with some GITANES (fictional) liveries for the Calibra DTM. These took a bit longer to do, but the results were worth the effort.

As an extra-addition, enclosed within the download-file are Driver names (GTplanet members) that you can rename to <driver.png> and place it within the livery-folder of your choice.

Further driver-name requests can be made at will - just let me know.

DOWNLOAD

Happy racing everyone!

 

[ninezeroniner]

...and since having the decals handy, thought to spruce up the grid with some GITANES (fictional) liveries for the Calibra DTM. These took a bit longer to do, but the results were worth the effort.

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As an extra-addition, enclosed within the download-file are Driver names (GTplanet members) that you can rename to <driver.png> and place it within the livery-folder of your choice.

Further driver-name requests can be made at will - just let me know.

DOWNLOAD

Happy racing everyone!

 

[norms]

DTM fictional skin

4k only just a quick skin to give it some variation i have tried to keep it period correct (ish)

should be able to drag and drop to install.

just fixed a wonky sticker that i noticed thats the reason for a new version. nothing else has changed

if you want the banner to appear on the inside on some of the skins all you need to do is copy the body skin and rename it to SKIN.dds and that will goive you an interior banner

opel calibra dtm fictional warsteiner skin

4k only just a quick skin to give it some variation i have tried to keep it period correct (ish) should be able to drag and drop to install. if you want the banner to appear on the inside on some of the skins all you need to do is copy the body...

www.gtplanet.net

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Great skin thanks! Looks like you left off the AO layer though? Would be very nice if you could add that in. Also by changing the roll cage AO dds to a single flat colour it looks pretty bad inside the car don't you think? It will be better to colourize the "metal.dds" instead then you will keep the shadows

 

[maximeerkat]

Great skin thanks! Looks like you left off the AO layer though? Would be very nice if you could add that in. Also by changing the roll cage AO dds to a single flat colour it looks pretty bad inside the car don't you think? It will be better to colourize the "metal.dds" instead then you will keep the shadows

cheers norms i just quickly knocked it up for some variation, im in the middle of doing another skin for it actually. Yeh the roll cage was a last minute decision i was just going to leave it as is because it does look good, i did try and make the coloured rollcage look good but i couldn't get an AO what i got was a really really dark AO which did nothing. However i will do what you suggested tomorrow and colourize the "metal.dds". I didn't know you could do that in all honesty i dont really understand that side of it.

the AO was left out on purpose although i have just changed the name of the skin file from "body_diffuse.dds to "body.dds" and that gives it an AO i have to say i have a pic side by side and yes it does indeed look a bit better so if anyone wants to give this instant AO just change the name.

the reasons i left it out in the first place is when i took it out on track it looked good in my game and the game puts a bit of AO on its not alot but to me it looked ok so i just went with it. I tried an AO if i remember correctly and it didnt look great, i never knew you could just change the name and get a better AO on it.




here is without and with AO if anyone wants to swap to an AO like i say just change the name of the skin file ^^^^

 

[norms]

cheers norms i just quickly knocked it up for some variation, im in the middle of doing another skin for it actually. Yeh the roll cage was a last minute decision i was just going to leave it as is because it does look good, i did try and make the coloured rollcage look good but i couldn't get an AO what i got was a really really dark AO which did nothing. However i will do what you suggested tomorrow and colourize the "metal.dds". I didn't know you could do that in all honesty i dont really understand that side of it.

the AO was left out on purpose although i have just changed the name of the skin file from "body_diffuse.dds to "body.dds" and that gives it an AO i have to say i have a pic side by side and yes it does indeed look a bit better so if anyone wants to give this instant AO just change the name.

the reasons i left it out in the first place is when i took it out on track it looked good in my game and the game puts a bit of AO on its not alot but to me it looked ok so i just went with it. I tried an AO if i remember correctly and it didnt look great, i never knew you could just change the name and get a better AO on it.




here is without and with AO if anyone wants to swap to an AO like i say just change the name of the skin file ^^^^




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It will be better to add the AO to that actual skin, was the layer not included with the PSD file that was provided earlier? AO really is a must and there is a huge difference in how it looks in game, which is more noticeable at certain angles such as this angle:

No AO:

AO:

Just look at the darker shadowed areas, the difference really is night and day? Don't take my feedback badly, just trying to point out where it could be improved and if you are not sure how to add the AO layer to that actual DDS give me a shout in PM, but thanks again for the skin!

 

[maximeerkat]

It will be better to add the AO to that actual skin, was the layer not included with the PSD file that was provided earlier? AO really is a must and there is a huge difference in how it looks in game, which is more noticeable at certain angles such as this angle:

No AO:


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AO:


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Just look at the darker shadowed areas, the difference really is night and day? Don't take my feedback badly, just trying to point out where it could be improved and if you are not sure how to add the AO layer to that actual DDS give me a shout in PM, but thanks again for the skin!

ive just had a look again at no AO and i have to be honest i kind of prefer without now 🤣 im kind of flipping between the 2 right now. My game has different settings with a different monitor i dont like it to bright in game its just a personal preference so my game is fairly dark really. So for this reason this is probably why i cannot replicate what you have pictured there because i do see what you mean. For me though an AO is not always a must infact rarely. I have had a discusiion with another member on here a while ago and he also prefers most of the time without AO so we really are talking about personal preference. The game normally puts an AO on, the only car that i have done which had no AO put on in-game was a RSS car. I have much time fiddling with AO's throught the many skins i have done and i'm normally in camp "no AO"

just changing the name worked well enough i thought for me anyway i am thinking "if it works, it works" im happy with that, again people can make up there own mind on what they prefer. Like i said either or for me but i do find without AO it "pops" more and i prefer that on my setup with my personal taste e.t.c, i took the AO out the Bmw z4 skin that i done for this very reason aswell if i remember correctly.

I will have a look at the rollcage tomorrow though for sure as that does look a little plain, if i have any issues i will drop you a PM. Cheers norms

 

[axydraul]

It will be better to add the AO to that actual skin, was the layer not included with the PSD file that was provided earlier? AO really is a must and there is a huge difference in how it looks in game, which is more noticeable at certain angles such as this angle:

No AO:


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AO:


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Just look at the darker shadowed areas, the difference really is night and day? Don't take my feedback badly, just trying to point out where it could be improved and if you are not sure how to add the AO layer to that actual DDS give me a shout in PM, but thanks again for the skin!

The great difference I see is the front bumper, without AO is really too clear, it seems illuminated by a flash

 

[ChaosZeroJK]

Not yet, I need to confirm a few things before I do just that.

Claudio made and released this back in mid 2023 on his patreon until he took it down for some reason. He even made more cars and I already know that people gonna say delete them because of their bad quality. But until I see better models, these are staying in my garage.

And I believe he had some kind of Firebird Trans Am GT car in the works too and it looked like this:
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He also have others like these and some that haven't been released yet:
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Oh ok that's very nice to hear. I hope Velo can work on it soon. Can wait to see a better model of the Pantera GT1.

He was denied permissions to convert them (including the Pantera in your previous post) and he did it anyway despite original creators saying no, namely the DB7 (made by me and other people), as well as the FTO, the Camaro and the Viper.

 

[maximeerkat]

The great difference I see is the front bumper, without AO is really too clear, it seems illuminated by a flash

i agree with this statement. i dont like the way the game blows out light coloured paintwork this happens on some parts of car's with or without an AO as i have noticed many many times so i decided to lower my "hdr multiplier" and its removed that problem for me. I also did not like how on some stickers they should be red but look fluoresent pink in game if the sun goes on them it looked awful, an AO will not solve this the only thing i found that works is lowering the hdr multiplier so it looks more natural.


there are so many fiddly variations we are really comparing apples to oranges when it comes to this kind of thing.


thanks to @norms for pointing out the rollcage and a gentle nudge as to what to do, i have sorted it so it looks much better.

for anyone that does care just chuck this "metal.dds" file into the skin folder and overwrite to apply changes.

File on MEGA

mega.nz

hope the link works ok it doies for me in a random browser so should be good for all.

 

[peppemuratore]

Hi everyone. Is there a fix for this problem on Bikernieki? During the replay I also saw some "flying" objects that move along with the camera. Big thanks.

 

[JK1977]

It will be better to add the AO to that actual skin, was the layer not included with the PSD file that was provided earlier? AO really is a must and there is a huge difference in how it looks in game, which is more noticeable at certain angles such as this angle:

No AO:


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AO:


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Just look at the darker shadowed areas, the difference really is night and day? Don't take my feedback badly, just trying to point out where it could be improved and if you are not sure how to add the AO layer to that actual DDS give me a shout in PM, but thanks again for the skin!

nice

btw i have all orginal skins ,They are all reminiscent of old DTM skins

 

[Masscot]

nice

btw i have all orginal skins ,They are all reminiscent of old DTM skins

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Any reason why they weren't included?

Also, who was it who said they could add the much better physics from the Eboo car in just a few minutes? Did that ever happen?

 

[gavkiwi]

nice

btw i have all orginal skins ,They are all reminiscent of old DTM skins

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please include the skins

 

[JK1977]

Any reason why they weren't included?

Also, who was it who said they could add the much better physics from the Eboo car in just a few minutes? Did that ever happen?

thats my fault , I thought you wouldn't like it because it's not the original car

will upload the new version with all updates include yours

 

[FrustratedUse]

nice

btw i have all orginal skins ,They are all reminiscent of old DTM skins

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They are technically real liveres, Who ever made them just replaced the real sponsors with fake ones cause they most likely didn't have the rights to it.

 

[StoffelWaffle]

It will be better to add the AO to that actual skin, was the layer not included with the PSD file that was provided earlier? AO really is a must and there is a huge difference in how it looks in game, which is more noticeable at certain angles such as this angle:

No AO:


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AO:


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Just look at the darker shadowed areas, the difference really is night and day? Don't take my feedback badly, just trying to point out where it could be improved and if you are not sure how to add the AO layer to that actual DDS give me a shout in PM, but thanks again for the skin!

Adding AO to the DDS file does look better yes but then you're stuck with 60-80mb skins if you want the maximum quality possible, and if you reaaallly wanna have a lot of skins it'll fill your drive real fast.

That's why I don't do it anymore - besides it doesn't look as bad ?

 

[norms]

Adding AO to the DDS file does look better yes but then you're stuck with 60-80mb skins if you want the maximum quality possible, and if you reaaallly wanna have a lot of skins it'll fill your drive real fast.

That's why I don't do it anymore - besides it doesn't look as bad ?

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I think maybe some wires have been crossed? AO adds nothing to the size of the DDS. Maybe you are referencing mip maps? AO is part of the Kunos pipeline as despite what some people think, the game engine does not create any ambient occlusion at all, not in the way people think anyway. Refer back to my 2 screenshots. Both skins are the same file size but the bottom one has the AO layer merged into it.

 

[StoffelWaffle]

I think maybe some wires have been crossed? AO adds nothing to the size of the DDS. Maybe you are referencing mip maps? AO is part of the Kunos pipeline as despite what some people think, the game engine does not create any ambient occlusion at all, not in the way people think anyway. Refer back to my 2 screenshots. Both skins are the same file size but the bottom one has the AO layer merged into it.

I tried. PC2 skin size, 4096x6144.

No AO : 24mo

AO (DTX5): 24mo, visual artifacts

AO (Uncompressed): 96mo, no visual artifacts

Yeah, it might not be Kunos' pipeline but I'm not sticking with these big ass skins, I tried once and it's too much. Or maybe there's a better DDS format out there !

Or I've been doing it wrong for all this time lmao

 

[norms]

I tried. PC2 skin size, 4096x6144.

No AO : 24mo

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AO (DTX5): 24mo, visual artifacts

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AO (Uncompressed): 96mo, no visual artifacts

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Yeah, it might not be Kunos' pipeline but I'm not sticking with these big ass skins, I tried once and it's too much. Or maybe there's a better DDS format out there !

Or I've been doing it wrong for all this time lmao

How are you creating the AO? It should not be affecting the file size

 

[StoffelWaffle]

How are you creating the AO? It should not be affecting the file size

... with CM ?

edit : idk how to answer to two people in the same post so GT3Masters97, that's what I tried with the Calibra.
It works, frees up space on my PC and it's still better than no AO applied... Argh.

 

[GT3Masters97]

Adding AO to the DDS file does look better yes but then you're stuck with 60-80mb skins if you want the maximum quality possible, and if you reaaallly wanna have a lot of skins it'll fill your drive real fast.

That's why I don't do it anymore - besides it doesn't look as bad ?

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From my little experience I believe that the important thing is to assign a good AO to the model, having it on the skin adds some more details but I don't think it is mandatory. I did some tests on the TVR and only gained a few more pronounced shadows in some places, nothing else.

 

[JK1977]

so here version 1.1 Opel Calibra DTM´94
thats new:
Version 1.1
-New Shift correction ,add Overalls by Mascot
-New Physics (éboo´s)
-New Sound (found on Overtake/RD)
-New Skins (Orginal Game Skins)
-add Body.dds to internal banner
-optimze all Lods to the new Body.dds include internal banner

File on MEGA

mega.nz

 

[norms]

... with CM ?

No I mean in photoshop, your template includes an AO layer but states not really needed? Your skins are being saved as body.dds so they effectively replace the txdetail part of the shader and then the game uses the AO form the body_diffuse.dds which is loaded with the car. So your screenshots (if that other car you have set up is the same) will all include AO whether the actual skin you made has it or not, it is grabbing the AO from txdiffuse. So not really a "no AO" comparison at all. Did you look at my 2 screenshots of the Calibre, the difference with AO and without is startling. It should not even be up for debate whether it is needed or not, is absolutely IS needed in AC.

If you save your skin again for the calibre with AO layer activated you should see no difference in file size? But use the file name body_diffuse.dds, you will not be replacing the txdetal part so that will be kept, just as Kunos does it with their skins.

I am not telling you you are wrong, something just doesn't add up. If I save your template with AO layer activated and at DXT5 for example it is 22mb. If I disable that layer, it is still 22mb. Ofcourse it is the same size as nothing is changing other than the shade of some pixels in the DDS. Your different file sizes have to be coming from something else.

From my little experience I believe that the important thing is to assign a good AO to the model, having it on the skin adds some more details but I don't think it is mandatory. I did some tests on the TVR and only gained a few more pronounced shadows in some places, nothing else.

It really is needed, see above.

 

[Warwolf156]

so here version 1.1 Opel Calibra DTM´94
thats new:
Version 1.1
-New Shift correction ,add Overalls by Mascot
-New Physics (éboo´s)
-New Sound (found on Overtake/RD)
-New Skins (Orginal Game Skins)
-add Body.dds to internal banner
-optimze all Lods to the new Body.dds include internal banner

File on MEGA

mega.nz

Now the cars is absolutely perfect thanks a lot

 

[Fanapryde]

so here version 1.1 Opel Calibra DTM´94
thats new:
Version 1.1
-New Shift correction ,add Overalls by Mascot
-New Physics (éboo´s)
-New Sound (found on Overtake/RD)
-New Skins (Orginal Game Skins)
-add Body.dds to internal banner
-optimze all Lods to the new Body.dds include internal banner

File on MEGA

mega.nz

Thanks a mill to all involved
The car looks / feels / drives awesome now.
👍

 

[fleskebacon]

Your different file sizes have to be coming from something else.

The larger file size is because he saves it uncompressed, instead of DXT5 compressed.

And the reason he saves it uncompressed, is because the gradients in the AO introduces compression artefacts, which will not be present in the "flat" skin without AO.

So the question as I see it, is if those artefacts are so bad that saving uncompressed is really necessary. Ok, it's a trade, but I'd go with AO and perhaps some minor compression artefacts.