Assetto Corsa PC Mods General DiscussionPC

[fleskebacon]

Your different file sizes have to be coming from something else.

The larger file size is because he saves it uncompressed, instead of DXT5 compressed.

And the reason he saves it uncompressed, is because the gradients in the AO introduces compression artefacts, which will not be present in the "flat" skin without AO.

So the question as I see it, is if those artefacts are so bad that saving uncompressed is really necessary. Ok, it's a trade, but I'd go with AO and perhaps some minor compression artefacts.

 

[StoffelWaffle]

The larger file size is because he saves it uncompressed, instead of DXT5 compressed.

And the reason he saves it uncompressed, is because the gradients in the AO introduces compression artefacts, which will not be present in the "flat" skin without AO.

So the question as I see it, is if those artefacts are so bad that saving uncompressed is really necessary. Ok, it's a trade, but I'd go with AO and perhaps some minor compression artefacts.

That's exactly it.

DTX5 is cool and all but as you said, the compression results in visual glitches and I hate those. I can't unsee them.

RMS R8 (same AO stuff as the Calibra) with DTX5 compression:

without:

If there's a way, somehow, to apply AO to a skin without having : visual artifacts AND a huge file I'm all ears !

"Your skins are being saved as body.dds so they effectively replace the txdetail part of the shader and then the game uses the AO form the body_diffuse.dds which is loaded with the car. So your screenshots (if that other car you have set up is the same) will all include AO whether the actual skin you made has it or not, it is grabbing the AO from txdiffuse. So not really a "no AO" comparison at all"

That's exactly what I've been doing to the cars I tinker with, so yeah, no AO needed on the skin themselves. And the Calibra should have it...

 

[fleskebacon]

That's exactly it.

DTX5 is cool and all but as you said, the compression results in visual glitches and I hate those. I can't unsee them.

RMS R8 (same AO stuff as the Calibra) with DTX5 compression:

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without:

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If there's a way, somehow, to apply AO to a skin without having : visual artifacts AND a huge file I'm all ears !

"Your skins are being saved as body.dds so they effectively replace the txdetail part of the shader and then the game uses the AO form the body_diffuse.dds which is loaded with the car. So your screenshots (if that other car you have set up is the same) will all include AO whether the actual skin you made has it or not, it is grabbing the AO from txdiffuse. So not really a "no AO" comparison at all"

That's exactly what I've been doing to the cars I tinker with, so yeah, no AO needed on the skin themselves. And the Calibra should have it...

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Lucky for me I have poor eyesight, I don't even notice those kinds of artefacts. But I definately know what you mean about stuff you notice, and when it's first noticed, it cannot be unseen... Better take off your reading glasses, so everythings will look like ****.

 

[norms]

That's exactly it.

DTX5 is cool and all but as you said, the compression results in visual glitches and I hate those. I can't unsee them.

RMS R8 (same AO stuff as the Calibra) with DTX5 compression:

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without:

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If there's a way, somehow, to apply AO to a skin without having : visual artifacts AND a huge file I'm all ears !

"Your skins are being saved as body.dds so they effectively replace the txdetail part of the shader and then the game uses the AO form the body_diffuse.dds which is loaded with the car. So your screenshots (if that other car you have set up is the same) will all include AO whether the actual skin you made has it or not, it is grabbing the AO from txdiffuse. So not really a "no AO" comparison at all"

That's exactly what I've been doing to the cars I tinker with, so yeah, no AO needed on the skin themselves. And the Calibra should have it...

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Can’t argue with that if that’s what you prefer :-)

 

[Masscot]

so here version 1.1 Opel Calibra DTM´94
thats new:
Version 1.1
-New Shift correction ,add Overalls by Mascot
-New Physics (éboo´s)
-New Sound (found on Overtake/RD)
-New Skins (Orginal Game Skins)
-add Body.dds to internal banner
-optimze all Lods to the new Body.dds include internal banner

File on MEGA

mega.nz

Thanks for the update and for including the skins. Even if they're fake-a-likes they will make very useful guide layers for anyone to add the proper brands without having to guess the correct positions.
Always include all skins and (if available) the .psd template and it's then a lot more likely that skinners will add more.

Edit: You didn't add the revised shift timing in driver3d.ini from the files I sent you?
Bruce Lee on amphetamines is currently changing gear in The Matrix.

@JK1977 Here's your new data.acd but with the proper timing included:

 

[maximeerkat]

Opel Calibra DTM 4k skin close replica

Not exactly the same body so there are a few differences but its close enough to the real thing

drag and drop to install

Opel Calibra DTM close replica "Cliff" livery

Opel Calibra DTM 4k skin close replica Not exactly the same body so there are a few differences but its close enough to the real thing drag and drop to install

www.gtplanet.net

 

[Frank25]

That's exactly it.

DTX5 is cool and all but as you said, the compression results in visual glitches and I hate those. I can't unsee them.

RMS R8 (same AO stuff as the Calibra) with DTX5 compression:

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without:

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If there's a way, somehow, to apply AO to a skin without having : visual artifacts AND a huge file I'm all ears !

"Your skins are being saved as body.dds so they effectively replace the txdetail part of the shader and then the game uses the AO form the body_diffuse.dds which is loaded with the car. So your screenshots (if that other car you have set up is the same) will all include AO whether the actual skin you made has it or not, it is grabbing the AO from txdiffuse. So not really a "no AO" comparison at all"

That's exactly what I've been doing to the cars I tinker with, so yeah, no AO needed on the skin themselves. And the Calibra should have it...

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There is a better compression than DXT5 for DDS files with less visual glitches. In paint.net it's called "BC7 (Linear, DX11+)". You should use this instead of "BC3 (Linear, DXT5)" und compare the results with the uncompressed file. The file size of the DDS will be the same as with DXT5, but you must ALWAYS save the DDS with mipmaps as AC can't create the mipmaps for the new format and the game will crash otherwise. But 21.3MB with mipmaps is better than 64MB for a 4K uncompressed DDS without mipmaps. Just test it.

 

[racinjoe013]

A little something i've been fooling around with for Spa_2022. If there is enough interest, I will make it available for anyone interested. It would require downloading the track again. I realize that might upset some people because of all the hassle it takes to get the Pyyer extensions installed. Maybe I can figure out a way to do it where you don't need to delete the existing track folder and only need to overwrite the existing files.

58.33 MB file on MEGA

mega.nz

 

[mrhenkz]

Apologies for the swift update but I think the adjustments help a lot with overall contrast and general aesthetics.
** LINK UPDATED to v1.6 28th May **
VAO patch adjustments for deeper shadows/higher contrast; new grass texture, and saturation adjusted; tree contrast/saturation adjusted; new Germanic balloon skins.
https://sharemods.com/6pbot2cu0k9c/vhe_hockenheim_v1point6.zip.html

Improved AI (far from perfect) for Short A/B + new pitlanes (lined up with fast_lane for A, new for B).

Time improvements with IMO suitable cars:

Short A:
Clio Cup 1:15.3 -> 1:12.0

Skip Barber 1:13.5 -> 1:11.5

Mx5 Cup 1:13.2 -> 1:11.4

Ginetta GT5 1:11.4 -> 1:10.1

Audi TT Cup 1:06.6 -> 1:05.0

Short B:
Clio Cup 1:15.3 -> 1:13.7

Skip Barber 1:15.6 -> 1:13.5

Mx5 Cup 1:14.3 -> 1:13.1

Ginetta GT5 1:12.5 -> 1:10.9

Audi TT Cup 1:07.8 -> 1:06.8

 

[FerrariFan9]

Ill ask again since I have interest. Since I'm new to making mods and conversions Is it ok to post conversions if you have tried to get permission but cannot get any response/can't find a way to contact the creator? Cause this guy has fallen off the face of the earth. I just don't want to break a rule. Like I have his name as the lead credit in the track file. Also is there any sort of thing around converting rfactor conversions of the SRW tracks? Asking as I am currently working on Edmonton

 

[Alguecool]

There is a better compression than DXT5 for DDS files with less visual glitches. In paint.net it's called "BC7 (Linear, DX11+)". You should use this instead of "BC3 (Linear, DXT5)" und compare the results with the uncompressed file. The file size of the DDS will be the same as with DXT5, but you must ALWAYS save the DDS with mipmaps as AC can't create the mipmaps for the new format and the game will crash otherwise. But 21.3MB with mipmaps is better than 64MB for a 4K uncompressed DDS without mipmaps. Just test it.

Be careful with the BC7 one, the trouble isn't just the mipmaps on AC. It's mostly due to directX compatibility, and as Dx is fondamentally linked with Windows, depending on the version/update/etc, it can result in a simple "bleh" by one's computer and not another. Because I'm not sure if AC was even made compatible at all to begin with.

Personally I prefer to avoid it.
On the AO's artifacts subject, you can reduce them with a few tricks on Photoshop, without having to add weight.

Once you got it (whatever source, really, but always twice the size of your final render, maybe 4 times but not more), black and white (neutral) filter on it, then duplicate layer, filter, surface blur, navigate your blur so you get the minimal changes while cleaning surfaces (usually a threshold around 10/15), and finish with a mask and the eraser to reveal/diffuse spots if needed. quick and effective. Of course, only apply if you keep the AO as it is on AC, no painting on it!

And keep your AO as black and white, always. for exemple an AO coming from CM is not black and white by default, so compression will create color artefacts on the edges.

 

[FlyingSaucer9]

Not yet, I need to confirm a few things before I do just that.

Claudio made and released this back in mid 2023 on his patreon until he took it down for some reason. He even made more cars and I already know that people gonna say delete them because of their bad quality. But until I see better models, these are staying in my garage.


He also have others like these and some that haven't been released yet:


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Would love to get that Viper RT/10. Any estimated time to release it on sight?

 

[jac0]

The Ascari FGT has seemingly 6 mirrors... how to get rid of the 3 bogus ones?
( I've seen this on many mods already , and it always is annoying to actually set the mirrors as you need to go over the none existing mirrors till you find the correct ones...)

 

[MasterFocus]

He was denied permissions to convert them (including the Pantera in your previous post) and he did it anyway despite original creators saying no, namely the DB7 (made by me and other people), as well as the FTO, the Camaro and the Viper.

With only 3 post old, may I ask you this...

 

[FrustratedUse]

With only 3 post old, may I ask you this...

xChaosZero on discord, hes friends with the FRM who is making the supertouring mod for GTR2.

 

[Fanapryde]

He was denied permissions to convert them (including the Pantera in your previous post) and he did it anyway despite original creators saying no, namely the DB7 (made by me and other people), as well as the FTO, the Camaro and the Viper.

Did something go wrong while converting, or is it like this in the original ? In that case the wheels, tires and wheel arches sure need some TLC (to name just a few things)...

 

[sDmD13]

has someone maybe a link to this car?

Le Mans 1998 Porsche 911 GT2 (993) number 61 KRAUSS Race Sports International

Hello mates, Attached is the skin 4K of the Porsche 911 (993) number 61 from the 24H of Le Mans in 1998. The first skin I made of Le Mans 98 is HERE This skin has not been easy to make and that is why it has many errors (stickers that are...

www.overtake.gg

 

[RicME85]

has someone maybe a link to this car?

Le Mans 1998 Porsche 911 GT2 (993) number 61 KRAUSS Race Sports International

Hello mates, Attached is the skin 4K of the Porsche 911 (993) number 61 from the 24H of Le Mans in 1998. The first skin I made of Le Mans 98 is HERE This skin has not been easy to make and that is why it has many errors (stickers that are...

www.overtake.gg

Download file f302_porsche_993_gt2_race.7z - First Step - ModsFire.com

Download file f302_porsche_993_gt2_race.7z - 199.38 MB MB from ModsFire.com, without any restrictions and waiting! Straight download with max speed!

modsfire.com

 

[jaqory]

Would love to get that Viper RT/10. Any estimated time to release it on sight?

Not to my knowledge, no. I always wanted the RT/10 GT1 as well, but we have this instead which isn't bad... I like it, buuut...

It's not the RT/10 GT1. If you want to learn more about the mods he's been doing, here's his facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3003003843150997/user/100014762464833/

 

[StoffelWaffle]

There is a better compression than DXT5 for DDS files with less visual glitches. In paint.net it's called "BC7 (Linear, DX11+)". You should use this instead of "BC3 (Linear, DXT5)" und compare the results with the uncompressed file. The file size of the DDS will be the same as with DXT5, but you must ALWAYS save the DDS with mipmaps as AC can't create the mipmaps for the new format and the game will crash otherwise. But 21.3MB with mipmaps is better than 64MB for a 4K uncompressed DDS without mipmaps. Just test it.

Still has visual artifacts lol

But people will say 'yeah you don't see them whilst driving!' but I know they're there and it irks me so much.

jaqory : it's the GTS-R from FM4, that car has existed a long time for AC

 

[puerk0spin]

Still has visual artifacts lol

But people will say 'yeah you don't see them whilst driving!' but I know they're there and it irks me so much.



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jaqory : it's the GTS-R from FM4, that car has existed a long time for AC

I don't consider AO to be that must. I like how AC projects natural shadows depending on the lights, and somehow, AO only looks like a Non-completely-clean car, darkening the white, clarifying the black, so at some point the white is not white neither the black is not black.

 

[StoffelWaffle]

I don't consider AO to be that must. I like how AC projects natural shadows depending on the lights, and somehow, AO only looks like a Non-completely-clean car, darkening the white, clarifying the black, so at some point the white is not white neither the black is not black.

It's also my OCD acting up lol. No worries, as norms said it's all personal preference

 

[ChaosZeroJK]

Did something go wrong while converting, or is it like this in the original ? In that case the wheels, tires and wheel arches sure need some TLC (to name just a few things)...

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I didn't make that car specifically, but they're mods for a game that is now almost 20 years old.

 

[Masscot]

I don't consider AO to be that must. I like how AC projects natural shadows depending on the lights, and somehow, AO only looks like a Non-completely-clean car, darkening the white, clarifying the black, so at some point the white is not white neither the black is not black.

That sounds like the AO might be too aggressive. As a band-aid in these situations where the car gets too dark it can be countered by increasing the ksAmbient on the car paint.
I agree with @norms (and many others) in that AO is an important part of the car's overall aesthetic. To me, lighting always look somewhat false and clinical without it, both externally and (especially) in the cockpit.

 

[Twisteddrift]

hey guys, how do I find my AcTools Content Manager folder? I'm trying to install Stefan Clift GT7 car categories.

C:/ Users / "username" / AppData / Local / AcTools Content Manager

when i get to users, there is no appdata folder, is there another way to find this?

 

[fleskebacon]

hey guys, how do I find my AcTools Content Manager folder? I'm trying to install Stefan Clift GT7 car categories.

C:/ Users / "username" / AppData / Local / AcTools Content Manager

when i get to users, there is no appdata folder, is there another way to find this?

Probably hidden system folder. You can type %appdata% in the address field in file explorer. It will take you to AppData\Roaming, so you'll have to navigate up to find AppData\Local, but it's an easy starting point.

 

[Aaron Green]

Any reason why they weren't included?

Also, who was it who said they could add the much better physics from the Eboo car in just a few minutes? Did that ever happen?

I said you could change physics in a matter of minutes, but I said that because there was a guy saying he was going to get his friend to do it - so I just said, give it a go yourself! But it's a very simple operation to do, not really too sure why more people don't try. There is a 8 minute (or so) video on YouTube by a guy called Sin or Zin. He's basically changing the physics of a drift car and he talks you through it. I mean, I'm happy to help but I'd need both physics sets and about 10 minutes of my time.

Edit - BOOM!

 

[Masscot]

I said you could change physics in a matter of minutes, but I said that because there was a guy saying he was going to get his friend to do it - so I just said, give it a go yourself! But it's a very simple operation to do, not really too sure why more people don't try. There is a 8 minute (or so) video on YouTube by a guy called Sin or Zin. He's basically changing the physics of a drift car and he talks you through it. I mean, I'm happy to help but I'd need both physics sets and about 10 minutes of my time.

Edit - BOOM!

Thanks, but @JK1977 has already done it in the update.

 

[Aaron Green]

Thanks, but @JK1977 has already done it in the update.

Oh well - hopefully that video will help others see how easy it is!

 

[Masscot]

Oh well - hopefully that video will help others see how easy it is!

I've bookmarked it in case the situation ever arises.