Assetto Corsa PC Mods General DiscussionPC

[Masscot]

Mate, I refuse to use CSP is because newer and newer versions are coming out and tracks made for older versions need constant correction. If a CSP finished version comes out, I'll use it... maybe. I added rain reflection and night lights in GTR2... these will definitely not need to be improved or corrected in the future, because there is no such thing as GTR2+CSP.

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I think it's your information that might be out of date.
Not sure why you think that "tracks made for older versions need constant correction" when even original Kunos content (created years before CSP even existed) look and work just fine, as do tracks created since that do utilise CSP features.
If what you say is true then the AC modding scene would be in total meltdown, with content needing updating with every new CSP release. This simply is not the case.
There are many good reasons why people use CSP and why tracks (and cars) are now created to take advantage of it.

 

[carTOON]

I think it's your information that might be out of date.
Not sure why you think that "tracks made for older versions need constant correction" when even original Kunos content (created years before CSP even existed) look and work just fine, as do tracks created since that do utilise CSP features.
If what you say is true then the AC modding scene would be in total meltdown, with content needing updating with every new CSP release. This simply is not the case.
There are many good reasons why people use CSP and why tracks (and cars) are now created to take advantage of it.

I follow the forum posts here... there are many problems, whether car mod or track mod - the community helps, the first question is always: which CSP version are you using. I also see when uploading some new mods that the creator indicates which CSP version it works with. My experience as an interested observer shows that AC+CSP is constantly about solving problems...

 

[BruceD]

I think it's your information that might be out of date.
Not sure why you think that "tracks made for older versions need constant correction" when even original Kunos content (created years before CSP even existed) look and work just fine, as do tracks created since that do utilise CSP features.
If what you say is true then the AC modding scene would be in total meltdown, with content needing updating with every new CSP release. This simply is not the case.
There are many good reasons why people use CSP and why tracks (and cars) are now created to take advantage of it.

Nah, he's not wrong. Just recently I updated to the latest version and suddenly tracks I had been playing no problem were all getting "GPU errors" and stuff like that. And most often solution are "downgrade the CSP to X". I think more the trick is to stick to the latest "stable" version rather than constantly changing to the latest untested ones.

 

[Masscot]

I follow the forum posts here... there are many problems, whether car mod or track mod - the community helps, the first question is always: which CSP version are you using. I also see when uploading some new mods that the creator indicates which CSP version it works with. My experience as an interested observer shows that AC+CSP is constantly about solving problems...

So you haven't actually tried it yourself? Might be worth giving it a go rather than using anecdotal hearsay from others. You might be pleasantly surprised.
If CSP was as problematic as you seem to think then nobody would be using it. There is a 'recommended' version (although this is very old... not sure why the recommended version never gets amended. CSP have been very stable for ages now).
In my own experience of always updating CSP when available, issues are fairly minor aesthetic ones and rarely (if ever) gamebreaking.
It's not as if vanilla AC is without it's problems either. Didn't one of your non-CSP tracks recently lack any water at all?
All I'm saying is, if you were scared off CSP several years ago and haven't used it since, give it a go - you might be pleasantly surprised by the visual updates, the new features and the increase in performance.

Another thought: if you don't use CSP because you think it'll break some tracks or cars, then how do you use content that actually needs CSP to look and work properly?

 

[MasterFocus]

Nah, he's not wrong. Just recently I updated to the latest version and suddenly tracks I had been playing no problem were all getting "GPU errors" and stuff like that. And most often solution are "downgrade the CSP to X". I think more the trick is to stick to the latest "stable" version rather than constantly changing to the latest untested ones.

Cant say for tracks, but cars that do pop that error are bad mods anyway, generaly badly optimized to run

 

[carTOON]

So you haven't actually tried it yourself? Might be worth giving it a go rather than using anecdotal hearsay from others. You might be pleasantly surprised.
If CSP was as problematic as you seem to think then nobody would be using it. There is a 'recommended' version (although this is very old... not sure why the recommended version never gets amended. CSP have been very stable for ages now).
In my own experience of always updating CSP when available, issues are fairly minor aesthetic ones and rarely (if ever) gamebreaking.
It's not as if vanilla AC is without it's problems either. Didn't one of your non-CSP tracks recently lack any water at all?
All I'm saying is, if you were scared off CSP several years ago and haven't used it since, give it a go - you might be pleasantly surprised by the visual updates, the new features and the increase in performance.

Another thought: if you don't use CSP because you think it'll break some tracks or cars, then how do you use content that actually needs CSP to look and work properly?

I don't use tracks that absolutely require CSP. A great modder friend of ours is now converting an old track of mine, sending it for testing, but I can't check it... no problem, I accept the situation and trust the modder friend. By the way, see the above comment from BruceD.

 

[chas1723]

The reason mods have a version of CSP that is mandatory is due to the fact the mod is using features that were added to csp in that release. CSP is quite stable now. The reason for asking which CSP version when helping people is due to people using obscenely old versions and expecting them to look like the current versions.

 

[Masscot]

The reason mods have a version of CSP that is mandatory is due to the fact the mod is using features that were added to csp in that release. CSP is quite stable now. The reason for asking which CSP version when helping people is due to people using obscenely old versions and expecting them to look like the current versions.

Worth mentioning too that a lot of issues seem to be triggered by users clicking tickboxes and messing with settings that they don't properly understand. If you use CSP's default settings and actually research what various options do before implementing them (the descriptions aren't great, that's something that has always been a barrier) then you'll have an easier and more streamlined experience. There are plenty of YouTube guides to help, but if suitable caution is exercised and you don't act like a greedy kid in a sweet shop then things will go a lot smoother.

Anyway, at the end of the day if anyone doesn't want to use CSP then that's fine.
I think they'll be missing out on a LOT of benefits though and be stuck with a 10-year-old game that shows its age in vanilla form but plays like a modern sim with CSP.

 

[Valyul]

I am experiencing troubles when I try to race at OSRW Nurburgring GP Layout. Does somebody have a fix for this issue?

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Ok. Backup the files "models_nurburgring_osrw.ini" and "models_nurburgring-sprint_osrw.ini" from your ks_nurburgring folder and try these instead:

 

[BruceD]

Cant say for tracks, but cars that do pop that error are bad mods anyway, generaly badly optimized to run

So far when I've had the error, I've changed the car to a different track and had no problems. But I could believe that cars give a similar issue.

I think at the end of the day its about finding the version that gives the least issues for your hardware. And like Masscot says, not going mad on every new setting just "because its there to tick"

I wouldn't avoid it completely, but its not 100% bulletproof.

 

[Xer0]

C3 Long Beach Version (WIP)

 

[Masscot]

Hello, is the link up to date?

It's the same as the old version. I don't get any improvement.

The link definitely worked for me. Maybe Peter has edited it since.
There should be another update coming soon (hopefully posted by Peter this time) with some further fixes.

 

[Apocalypse211]

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C3 Long Beach Version (WIP)

What year is track version from?

Thanks.

 

[Xer0]

What year is track version from?

Thanks.

Long beach 1998, man. https://www.overtake.gg/downloads/long-beach-1998.61925/

 

[Apocalypse211]

Cool. I use the 1988 version in my 1982 and 1983 F1 seasons. I don't know if it's perfectly accurate but it's close.

I think there is no older version available.

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[Cote Dazur]

the horizon like cut-off

Same here, plus the track looks really bare.

This is very strange

Is it?

I refuse to use CSP

Not so strange then.

Thank you very much for all your contributions to our common enjoyment trough the years.

Not using CSP should not be an issue, as in my thousands of cars and hundreds of tracks a lot predate CSP and work just fine, they might look a little dated, but no glaring issues, like in this one.

At the end of the day, it is your work, then your choice, but is just fair that for you to know that people using CDP, which are probably an overwhelming majority, cannot enjoy what you seem happy to share in this particular case.

 

[Xer0]

Updated. Used more authentic version.

 

[alexlockout]

some observations about carTOON tracks, when using CSP. I use CSP and I have never had problems with carTOON tracks, maybe this is due to the fact that I use CSP, but do not use custom weather, like SOL\PURE. maybe the problems with its tracks are caused by custom weather and not by CSP itself?

 

[carTOON]

Same here, plus the track looks really bare.

Is it?

Not so strange then.

Thank you very much for all your contributions to our common enjoyment trough the years.

Not using CSP should not be an issue, as in my thousands of cars and hundreds of tracks a lot predate CSP and work just fine, they might look a little dated, but no glaring issues, like in this one.

At the end of the day, it is your work, then your choice, but is just fair that for you to know that people using CDP, which are probably an overwhelming majority, cannot enjoy what you seem happy to share in this particular case.

Okay... I understand, mate.
In the future, I will upload my new tracks only to the Racedepartment, but I will not make a recommendation or presentation here - I understand and accept that this community requires very high-quality cars and racetracks with all functions, and I am not a professional, just an amateur modder . It's not smart to show what I've made just for criticism. It can be downloaded on RD and the few hundred people who download it know what they are getting, and those who are also present here do not download it because they know there is no CSP stuff. I really don't want to cause annoyance or an unpleasant day for anyone. Best regards, guys!

 

[shi]

I have recently started using Paint Shop, which was added to the CSP.
Install it from the App Shelf in the in-game menu.
To increase the resolution of the skin to 4K, open Paintshop.lua in assettocorsa\apps\lua\Paintshop and change 2048 to 4096 on lines 16 and 33.
(I don't know if this is the right way, but it works for me)

Tutorial Video


Skins I have created (probably to be released next week)
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There are other add-ons that make it easier to do 3D painting in Blender.
LiveryHelper

LiveryHelper

Makes creating, editing and customizing car liveries much easier

extensions.blender.org

Released Honda NSX Skins
Honda NSX 1993 Spa 24h #30 & Honda NSX Suzuka Circuit Pace Car 1992

https://www.patreon.com/posts/honda-nsx-skins-111777210

 

[racinjoe013]

Okay... I understand, mate.
In the future, I will upload my new tracks only to the Racedepartment, but I will not make a recommendation or presentation here - I understand and accept that this community requires very high-quality cars and racetracks with all functions, and I am not a professional, just an amateur modder . It's not smart to show what I've made just for criticism. It can be downloaded on RD and the few hundred people who download it know what they are getting, and those who are also present here do not download it because they know there is no CSP stuff. I really don't want to cause annoyance or an unpleasant day for anyone. Best regards, guys!

You keep making tracks the way you want and i'll keep downloading them where ever you put them. If they have some CSP issues, then i'll fix them like i've done with your past tracks. They typically don't need much work anyways. Just a few tweaks here and there.

 

[Fanapryde]

Okay... I understand, mate.
In the future, I will upload my new tracks only to the Racedepartment, but I will not make a recommendation or presentation here - I understand and accept that this community requires very high-quality cars and racetracks with all functions, and I am not a professional, just an amateur modder . It's not smart to show what I've made just for criticism. It can be downloaded on RD and the few hundred people who download it know what they are getting, and those who are also present here do not download it because they know there is no CSP stuff. I really don't want to cause annoyance or an unpleasant day for anyone. Best regards, guys!

I have a dozen or so of your tracks installed. Apart from one where the ocean wasn't visible (got fixed however), I haven't had any issues.
Why is it then that this Albion is causing this issue and all others not ? It doesn't depend on CSP version because I tried different (older) ones too.

 

[andrevr]

The issue with the hillring_? in Albion (and no, fixing it is beyond my pay-grade, this just in service of "first know what's happening") is not that it's being cut off. If you use the F7 camera and get up a bit, you can see that it's just a bit see-through, and so against the light blue sky it seems to vanish. The shader is ksPerPixelAT.

CSP latest preview, Default weather controller (no Pure), LCS.

Another data point: If I change the shader with a replacement in ext_config.ini, the shader IS changed, but it doesn't fix the visual.

 

[carTOON]

I have a dozen or so of your tracks installed. Apart from one where the ocean wasn't visible (got fixed however), I haven't had any issues.
Why is it then that this Albion is causing this issue and all others not ? It doesn't depend on CSP version because I tried different (older) ones too.

It's hard to give advice blindly bro... one thing maybe: if you have 3DSimED, add hillrig.kn5 to Albion_Valley.kn5, then delete hillring from models.ini. Maybe it works, it's just a hint...I'm curious.

 

[CrisT86]

Mate, I refuse to use CSP is because newer and newer versions are coming out and tracks made for older versions need constant correction. If a CSP finished version comes out, I'll use it... maybe. I added rain reflection and night lights in GTR2... these will definitely not need to be improved or corrected in the future, because there is no such thing as GTR2+CSP.

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Once done, the basic config, is always the same forever. New additions in CSP are not mandatory, and tracks with older configs still works fine. We keep them updated because we want, not because required.

Asking which CSP they use (when some problem are reported) is because most of the time, tracks are installed in a not proper manner and they have issue, but since i started making config (i made almost 500+ configs for free) no one ever reported any specific issue caused by the config, all of them are caused by error during the installation of the track of in some cased by some bugs of CSP that can be fixed by changing the version without touching tracks of cars. Simple as that.

Avoid CSP (without testing it) is like keep eat raw meat because being scared by the fire... which is a no sense in 2024. Anyway as said before, is up to you, you are free to do whatever you want

 

[Fanapryde]

It's hard to give advice blindly bro... one thing maybe: if you have 3DSimED, add hillrig.kn5 to Albion_Valley.kn5, then delete hillring from models.ini. Maybe it works, it's just a hint...I'm curious.

OK, thanks for responding. I don't have 3DSimED, don't know how to use it either.
But I bet someone will chime in sooner or later and fix the damn issue. I already deleted the hillrig.kn5 to check what happens, but then it looks worse...

 

[CrisT86]

I have a dozen or so of your tracks installed. Apart from one where the ocean wasn't visible (got fixed however), I haven't had any issues.
Why is it then that this Albion is causing this issue and all others not ? It doesn't depend on CSP version because I tried different (older) ones too.

OK, thanks for responding. I don't have 3DSimED, don't know how to use it either.
But I bet someone will chime in sooner or later and fix the damn issue. I already deleted the hillrig.kn5 to check what happens, but then it looks worse...

I will take a look at the track in the weekend if anyone take a look before.

 

[romsiee]

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Rene's helmet of 1983 (WIP)

are the helmet model came from EKO Sim Racing?

 

[Xer0]

are the helmet model came from EKO Sim Racing?

You're right, man! This is exactly him!

 

[carTOON]

OK, thanks for responding. I don't have 3DSimED, don't know how to use it either.
But I bet someone will chime in sooner or later and fix the damn issue. I already deleted the hillrig.kn5 to check what happens, but then it looks worse...

I don't know if it helps, they did something on the RD... https://www.overtake.gg/threads/albion-valley.275987/