Best WORLD-WIDE Touring Car

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Wich is the best touring car? Asuming Lexus Petronas Tom's SC430 '08 is a touring car…
If not a touring car, then the group of cars for the written above categorie?
 
The SC430 is a SuperGT car not a touring car. The best of those is one of the GTRs I think, or the NISMO Z. But i've always liked the NSXs more, particularly the Honda RAYBRIG NSX '06.
 
Ok.
Sorry for stupidness, what is SuperGT and what is Touring?
Wich has the best handling, cornering speed?
Aleo, for example on the Lexus dealership there is a couple of super gt. Two level 18 and two 19. What is the diffrance? They have the same stats. So goes for gtr/nsx
 
A Super GT car is a car that races in the Japanese Super GT class in real life. That is, in GT5, the Lexus SC430 race cars, the Nissan GT-R race cars and the Honda NSX race cars in the new dealerships. The Toyota YellowHat could be considered Super GT too, I suppose. Then there are the Japanese GT Championship cars which are the older ones. Those include the Toyota Supra race cars, older NSX race cars, the Lamborghini Nomad and various Nissans. There is also a Super GT 300 class and a lower JGTC class too.
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The touring cars is a very limited bunch of cars. The CLK touring, Vauxhall / Opel Astra and Calibras, BMW M3 GTR race car, Mercedes 190 touring and more. The fastest of these is definately the CLK (not to be confused with the CLK-LM!!).
 
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A Super GT car is a car that races in the Japanese Super GT class in real life. That is, in GT5, the Lexus SC430 race cars, the Nissan GT-R race cars and the Honda NSX race cars in the new dealerships. The Toyota YellowHat could be considered Super GT too, I suppose. Then there are the Japanese GT Championship cars which are the older ones. Those include the Toyota Supra race cars, older NSX race cars, the Lamborghini Nomad and various Nissans. There is also a Super GT 300 class and a lower JGTC class too.
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The touring cars is a very limited bunch of cars. The CLK touring, Vauxhall / Opel Astra and Calibras, BMW M3 GTR race car, Mercedes 190 touring and more. The fastest of these is definately the CLK (not to be confused with the CLK-LM!!).

Is the BMW M3 GTR race car a touring car?
I always thought there's a 320 touring car from BMW.
 
Is the BMW M3 GTR race car a touring car?
I always thought there's a 320 touring car from BMW.

No it's not a touring car, it was used in GT racing IIRC. Bombe32 may well have meant the 320 (which is I believe a touring car)

For the OP below is a quote from wikipedia:

Differences between touring cars and sports cars

For the casual observer, there can be a great deal of confusion when it comes to classifying closed-wheel racing cars as 'touring cars' or 'sports cars' (also known as GT cars). In truth, there is often very little technical difference between the two classifications, and nomenclature is often a matter of tradition.

In general, however, touring cars are based upon family cars (such as hatchbacks, saloons or estates), while GT racing cars are based upon more powerful and expensive sports cars, such as Ferraris or Lamborghinis. Underneath the bodywork, a touring car is often more closely related to its road-going origins, using many original components and mountings, while a top-flight GT car is often a purpose-built tube-frame racing chassis underneath a cosmetic body shell. Many touring car series, such as the BTCC and the now-defunct JTCC distinguish themselves from sports car racing by featuring front-wheel drive, four-wheel drive and rear-wheel drive cars with smaller engines.

However, while touring cars have a lower technical level than sports cars in general, there are notable exceptions to the rule. The Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters (DTM) is considered to be one of the most technologically advanced racing series in the world, with cars that, underneath their four-door shells, are more purebred racing machines than most FIA-GT vehicles.
 
Actually, I do know the M3 GTR isn't a touring car as it has been mentioned a ton of times on these forums. However, in GT5, it must be classed as a touring car, because it's
1. Used for the touring car championship
2. Has specs pretty equal to the other touring cars
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The 320i is too slow to keep up with them, so it's in its own class - which makes it completely pointless to actually have the car in the game.
 
The 320i is too slow to keep up with them, so it's in its own class - which makes it completely pointless to actually have the car in the game.

Actually the 320i is from the WTCC, which is another touring championship. It amazes me how many people think it's a DTM car when it has just 261bhp...:dunce:
 
But where are all the other touring cars then.. That's my point, I know the M3 isn't officially a touring car, but in the game it's classed as one.
 
But where are all the other touring cars then.. That's my point, I know the M3 isn't officially a touring car, but in the game it's classed as one.

The Integra Touring Car, Mazda6/Atenza Touring Cars and (at a pinch) the Altezza Touring Car are rather close to the 320i. The FTO and Impreza Touring Cars on the other hand are 400hp+ fictional cars and shouldn't be considered in the same wave as this lot.
 
The touring cars are in the UCD you have to wait for them to pop up in rotation.
BTC, WTCC, DTM race series was NOT added to GT5.
PD had plans to add DTM But were not given the extra time needed to add DTM racing series to GT5.
 
so we're talking about what the "game" classes as a touring car or reality here? I was only talking about reality.
 
So you're saying I should have posted a reply to this thread in another subforum??? You SURE about that?? The OP seemed to want clarification in THIS thread.
Yep if you want to talk about real cars you should NOT take the topic off track (high jack the thread) and start the topic in the NON GT5 section.
 
Yep if you want to talk about real cars you should NOT take the topic off track (high jack the thread) and start the topic in the NON GT5 section.

I DIDN'T want to talk about real cars someone asked for clarification and I gave it...sheesh.


oh wait this post hasn't got anything to do with the topic so I'd better post it in some other forum eh?
 
Prefer, The Vauxhall astra Touring car to the A4. still would have liked FORD to have had a model included.

They do, and its the best touring car in the game:

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Ford Falcon XR8 V8 Supercar.
 
Some weird discussions going on here.
GT means Grand Tourer, in other words; GT cars are also Touring cars.
Why is that so hard to understand?

The only thing is: there are like 10 big Grand Tourer/ Touring series, each with their own set of rules.
The Japaneese SuperGT is a Touring series, so those cars are all Touring Cars, but the rules of SuperGT are much different than for instance DTM so a SuperGT can;t enter the DTM.
The Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft (DTM) cars are also Touringcars, but they would not be allowed to enter .. lets say.. the WTCC.
The cars from the World TouringCar Championship (WTCC) are also Touringcars, but they would not be allowed to enter the SuperGT etc etc etc.

They are all Touring cars !


What I would like to see in GT5 is an option when creating an online game room, where it says' DTM cars only'.
So if you select that option, only the cars are allowed that were allowed in the DTM series.
Also a 'SuperGT' only' box, so when you select that, only cars from SuperGT would be allowed.

Takes away discussion about which cars are allowed and should be fairly simple to implement. I'd rather have these kind of improvements to the game than more premium cars or another version of a Mazda MX5.
 
Some weird discussions going on here.
GT means Grand Tourer, in other words; GT cars are also Touring cars.
Why is that so hard to understand?

The only thing is: there are like 10 big Grand Tourer/ Touring series, each with their own set of rules.
The Japaneese SuperGT is a Touring series, so those cars are all Touring Cars, but the rules of SuperGT are much different than for instance DTM so a SuperGT can;t enter the DTM.
The Deutsche Tourenwagen Meisterschaft (DTM) cars are also Touringcars, but they would not be allowed to enter .. lets say.. the WTCC.
The cars from the World TouringCar Championship (WTCC) are also Touringcars, but they would not be allowed to enter the SuperGT etc etc etc.

They are all Touring cars !


What I would like to see in GT5 is an option when creating an online game room, where it says' DTM cars only'.
So if you select that option, only the cars are allowed that were allowed in the DTM series.
Also a 'SuperGT' only' box, so when you select that, only cars from SuperGT would be allowed.

Takes away discussion about which cars are allowed and should be fairly simple to implement. I'd rather have these kind of improvements to the game than more premium cars or another version of a Mazda MX5.

Actually, historically touring cars have been based on Saloons (or Sedans) of one sort or another. GT Cars are usually sportscar-based. Although, to confuse things even further, the SuperGT series has its roots in the old Group A Touring car regulations, which were killed off by the success of the R32 GTR.
 
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