"Daily" Race Discussion
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- Canada
As what one what might call a visible minority living in a very cosmopolitan city, I wholeheartedly agree. Poking fun is how we all get along. But it is also important to note that some people who are filled with hate often test the waters with jokes first. The difference is that those people's jokes are never, ever funny. So it's easy to tell them apart from the rest of society.
Anyway, I'm happy to see that next week's Race C will be 14 laps. Last time we had this combo, it was 13 laps on mediums and hards. I guess they're making up for this week's gaffe.
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- Chertsey
- Stann_oz66
Race C has been pretty good this week and learnt a lot but still a lot to learn!
My qualy time is matching me with A+ and A drivers and if I can keep my rhythm I can keep up.
One race today I started in front of @05XR8 and he kept me on my toes and raced clean. I should have let him pass sooner as when he eventually did, I lost some rhythm and got swallowed up by another 4 drivers. As I learn from good and bad hopefully it will make me a better more consistent driver.
My qualy time is matching me with A+ and A drivers and if I can keep my rhythm I can keep up.
One race today I started in front of @05XR8 and he kept me on my toes and raced clean. I should have let him pass sooner as when he eventually did, I lost some rhythm and got swallowed up by another 4 drivers. As I learn from good and bad hopefully it will make me a better more consistent driver.
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- Australia
Oh, cool! That was you.👍 I saw you had pace and wanted to make sure we pulled away from the rest of the field. Wasn't trying to pass at any point. Was too much time to lose if we started fighting. Think we both gave each other too much courtesy into T1 at one point.
The next race, I was behind a Slophy. Same thing. I stayed with it all race and it was going slightly wide, at the final turn, in the later laps. Wasn't pressing it, as I was happy to finish behind. Last lap, it got a penalty for too much curb. We crossed the line at the same time, but it got 3 seconds for that. Ouch.
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- Chertsey
- Stann_oz66
Exactly and probably an area I have to work on as not everyone is like you and does not display the same courtesy.
I am a bit too nice in some races and therefore can lose positions. I will give a place back if I feel I gained it unfairly.
My next race I got punted at t2 lap1, he did apologize after race but my race was over, going from 8th to 18th.
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- 48,752
- Australia
That's unfortunate. Can't recall any trouble from that player. I think he's usually faster than me anyway.
Kudos to you though. Excellent race craft. You picked your line down the straight, didn't block anywhere, even when I was on your bumper and of course, you had pace.
Did one Race B in the Mustang. No dramas. 15/15 to 12/15. One race a day is enough.
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Reached DR A in race B last night. Still don't really have race pace to match my qualifying time, but starting at the top of the grid let's me place well by just driving without making mistakes. Has been a fun week for me. I think the best part is that it's been on a track that at the beginning of the week I despised for it's lack of flow and tricky corners in reverse. It's let me to believe I can be a decent racer on any track once I put some time in. Gives me a bit of confidence for future races at tracks I'm not familiar with that I would typically avoid.
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- Bristol, UK
- OJBrit
The only way you can do it is in open lobbies. But that has it's own pitfalls.
To be honest whilst there are idiots and brilliant racers from every country there are certain countries that have a higher percentage of idiots. In EMEA we know to be cautious over a certain nationality. I'm sure they'd say the same about another.
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- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
Competitive race...
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- San Jose, CA
- Little_Guppy_72
Yes.
Brazil, along with the US, is the largest group playing the game in the Americas. Aside from the id, the flag is the only identifying feature. We have a tendency to extend the antics of those dirty players to the whole nation and that is not right.
By sheer numbers, Brazil and US drivers represent more dirty players. We did not extend bad Uncle Jesse, the guy who shoots his pants, the Texas flag player, and maybe the grumpy family, to "United States is dirty". Ditto for Canada - it gets a pass. But we did for Brazil. Not right.
I had a post race conversation with one of my Brazilian friends. He felt the need to compensate/explain "I don't know whats is up with that guy" - his fellow countryman.
Is the correlation of bad sportsmanship from Brazil greater than other nations? Maybe, a little, as there tends to be a little truth in every stereotype. OK, that last statement was not woke - with this single mail I can never run for president now. Is it enough to generalize that Brazil is dirty... absolutely not.
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- MonyB
While it is dangerous to stereotype people for any reason, stereotypes do have some sort of root in reality. Leaving the technical aspect of network distances aside for a moment, there are cultural differences to be had. I know for a fact that Americans are considered by the locals to be loud and rude when they visit Japan. In my business, I work with people from India all the time. Once I started to understand their culture a bit more, my working relationship improved dramatically and became more productive.
That said, I have raced some very aggressive SA driver, yes. But I have also raced some very aggressive NA drivers. It's easy to develop confirmation bias through casual observation. When I played online poker, I'd have to go through my hand history and do some statistical analysis to drive it away. It very well may be that something culturally drives a more aggressive mindset in SA motorsport but I think you're doing yourself a great disservice taking a cautionary attitude with a drive solely based on the flag next to their name. I don't think it has anything to do with being "woke" as much as it's about keeping an open mind and collecting data in an unbiased manner. In reality, if you don't have enough data about any driver you should be cautious against them and expect a divebomb, until they prove otherwise. In my experience, at least, those come from drivers from all corners of the globe.
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Conversation is getting too heavy for a forum of this kind. Hitting the eject button. Although I do agree with what you said. I work in the “civil service” industry (one of the 2 most dangerous civil service professions) in arguably the roughest neighborhood in America. Understanding different cultures, next to not having a building collapse on me….is the BIGGEST part of my job. I hear what you’re saying very well 
Back to the daily’s. Had some fun racing late last night and early this morning. Besides my internets being goofy, racing was for the most part clean. I got a handle on race C enough where I decided to log into my main to see how the A lobbies were. Being consistent was paramount and waiting for the Scirroco brigades tires to fall off at the end was key.
Race b is too short in my opinion (it always is). Everyone just gets impatient and it becomes a punt fest
Back to the daily’s. Had some fun racing late last night and early this morning. Besides my internets being goofy, racing was for the most part clean. I got a handle on race C enough where I decided to log into my main to see how the A lobbies were. Being consistent was paramount and waiting for the Scirroco brigades tires to fall off at the end was key.
Race b is too short in my opinion (it always is). Everyone just gets impatient and it becomes a punt fest
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- Birmingham, UK
- GOTMAXPOWER
This is the race from the screenshot earlier, I went in to turn 2 a bit too hot on the second lap then caused mayhem trying to give everybody enough room.
jrbabbitt
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- Charleston, SC
- TCR_JimyBee
This is why I feel to apologize because I made hasty, rash remarks and I wasn't in the right to do so. Again I'm sorry and it's behind me now.
End of subject...
Jesus, a Los Angeles afternoon on a Friday....
Nice comeback and win
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- United States
It's a type of confirmation bias related to selective memory. You're more likely to remember things that stand out from the norm. It's like if you have a playlist on shuffle, and as one song is ending, you start to think of another song. If that song does come on, it's an interesting coincidence; you're more likely to remember that than if a completely different song comes on. So you remember the moments it happens but not the moments it doesn't. Then it seems it happens more often than not.
Americans and Canadians are more familiar with the American and Canadian flags. We see them quite regularly in everyday life, it's not significant. When someone forces an error with one of those flags next to their name, their nationality is not significant; we're less likely to remember that fact. We don't see the Brazilian flag in everyday life that often so it stands out more. We're more likely to remember that detail.
I would also posit that the Brazilian flag is one of the few Central/South American flags that is identifiable to most Americans and Canadians. The flags of El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua all look pretty similar, and Argentina isn't far off from that. Even if one nationality did force an error more often, you likely wouldn't notice if you couldn't identify the flag.
The Brazilian flag stands out more than our own flags, and is more identifiable than most Central/South American flags. So it's not that Brazilian drivers are more likely to force errors, rather we're more likely to remember when it happens than when it's our own nationality, or a flag we can't readily identify.
- 2,183
- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
You an LA guy?
Sooooo….when the lady went to go give herself a mani-pedi, I logged onto the main for some race C action. Did 4 in total. All A/A+ rooms. My 1:27.1 qually placed me firmly in the P15-20 range…. More specifically I never started above 17th.
Couple observations:
- The fewest number of sciroccos I saw was 13. In that specific race, the rest of the cars were (2) TT’s, 2 RCZ’s, 1 corvette, an NSX, and my Ferrari
- I’m not an FF guy regardless of how much of an advantage they’re given. However, I’m a fan of the latest GR.4 bop. It works in FIA and daily race C AS LONG AS THE MULTIPLIERS ARE RIGHT. Or the race length (which they clearly screwed up this race) . If the races don’t fulfill that criteria, they turn into Scirocco fests as of late. This race is no exception. Right when the FF tires start to fall off, it’s lap 6 or 7 and I’ve already been punted a minimum of 3 times. The Ferrari (a secret I’ve kept the whole week) does real well there…and is barely slower than an FF. But the FFs are just fast enough where if they get a run on you; they’re gonna run right through you going into the next corner wether they’ve legitimately made a pass or not.
- Between my alts and my main, I race in a lot of different lobbies. The only penalties given that I saw (racing from the back and usually getting P6-7 in A lobbies) were the crazy 2.5 second track limit penalty you get from the last corner. Despite ALL the dirty driving I saw (and later took part in), not one penalty. I said this months ago, and I’ll say it again. We’re all gonna miss the super strict penalty system in the long run.
- Sardegna B (either way) is the chit! I can’t wait for Wednesday!!
- I know we’re gonna be kinder and gentler here. But out of all the dirty driving and punts I saw. Not one of them had a flag next to it that represented the 48 or the Canucks. And since I understand Spanish, I can tell everyone is fair game in the rest of the N/A region. The amount of post race angry banter was primarily between the central and southern countries
- Every lobby I’ve been in as been dirty as heck!!! Thing is that the “A” class is just much better at hiding it. The penalty system needs to go back to what it used to be like.
Case and point:
After 2 races of getting punted by the same 3 guys repeatedly in each race (while not receiving penalties at all) and losing 2K DR in 2 races, I dedicated 1/2 my 3rd race (after getting punted again by 3 of them of course), to going full bore into them whenever possible. It was no holds barred, bare knuckle style. Guess what??? Not one penalty for me!!!!! Lol
I’m not one to complain (bold face lie), but this is crazy!! I want the old penalty system back!!! At least it was brutally stringent for everyone!
Lost I think 2K dr in total. Would have been more but I put the hammer down the 4th race and got ahead of the dirty drivers before they could do their thang
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- Australia
I don’t know if PD have made the penalties even more lenient, but the unpunished punting and pushing at RBR is out of control. It’s kill or be killed out there.
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- Ulricehamn
Hey, didn't know that! Fun!
First race this morning @Mistah_MCA was on pole and Sourdiesel on second. They held the same spots crossing the finish line.
I started on Medium just like Mistah but couldn't make it stick like he did so started p5 and finished p8
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- Canada
SO we ran Race C near 3 years ago, I managed a win and some podiums but was racing low B's at the time. We were running 25s on hards, 24s on mediums but no track limit at T1. Quality has improved since then so I expect to need to run faster than that this week.
Only issue I have with RBR is the uncertainty around the last corner, it is not clear to me on the inside or the outside as to what results in a penalty.
Only issue I have with RBR is the uncertainty around the last corner, it is not clear to me on the inside or the outside as to what results in a penalty.
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- Australia
Left tyres on tarmac on the inside, right tyres on rumble strip on the outside. Unless the moon is waning and Scorpio is rising, then it’s each to their own.
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- United States
Daily Race C is fun, but I feel like the margin of error is too great all around, and the soft compound just extends it. Everyone becomes hyper aggressive because the risk is so low. I wish they would just go back to Hard/Medium and maybe make a stop optional to mix up the strategy.
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- Australia
This might be my longest post in a while.
Did Race B in the Vantage, TT, M4, C7, Viper, Mustang, 650S, SLS and Cayman.
No qualy in the C7, M4, Vantage, Mustang, 650S and SLS. Moved up half the field after starting from Last.
C7 was the fastest alone and quickest in accelerating. Can pull away from the RCZs and catch them with better handling.
M4 just the handling. Was having to lift off everywhere there wasn't a bend. Really good though.
Vantage as good as the F-Type. Good speed.
Ditto the Mustang with its grunt and handling.
650S and SLS suffer from not being fast. Take too long to build speed. Both have good handling. The 650S was fastest through the last chicane. Steering change is ultra fast and stable. Noone was faster than me through there. I was catching up and pulling gaps. Car is just a bit slow.
Cayman was a surprise. Was hounding the RCZs and Veyrons. Slipstream is great and so is its speed. Thought it's be left for dead. Nope. Good choice overall.
Viper. This was awesome. String everywhere. It's has a short top speed, but it gets there quickly. Was battling three RCZs and a TT at the start. Got a good run out the final turn and passed for P2. P1 takes the inside line down the straight and I stay far left. As we enter the braking zone, P1 wants to sail left in front of me. He's been knocking people off in the previous races.
I stay right behind and we brake at the same time. Escorts himself slowly into the curbs and resets behind us. Haha.
I'm slow out of the chicane, don't block and P2 overtakes me. With a Mustang in P3. From there, me and the RCZ check out. This guy is going extremely slow at each corner. Playing the game because he knows the rwd is quicker. I can't avoid a rear bump tap and it gives me 1 second penalty.
I've got two laps to make that two seconds up. I catch him back on the final lap, at the second chicane. By the final chicane, I'm .5 away and I see the defensive positions. He's scared.
I brake deep at the parabolica and he goes wide mid-corner. Hammer down I'm stay right inside. Drops another .3s and on its bumper for P2 and Fastest Lap at the line.
Those RCZs are slow.
Last race in the TT. Started P3. It pulls Veyrons. A one red dot RCZ from Japan is all over the place. I'm in P2 and it gets me at the second chicane. I'm trying to keep my distance and the cars behind me slam into me through the second right-hander. Down to P14 I go, after a gravel trip. Geez, man.
Recover for P8. Harrassed and passed Veyrons for the remainder of the race This car is a beast. Plus, some help from others going off and penalties. Tee hee.
I'm having fun at the Temple of Speed. Whew!
Did Race B in the Vantage, TT, M4, C7, Viper, Mustang, 650S, SLS and Cayman.
No qualy in the C7, M4, Vantage, Mustang, 650S and SLS. Moved up half the field after starting from Last.
C7 was the fastest alone and quickest in accelerating. Can pull away from the RCZs and catch them with better handling.
M4 just the handling. Was having to lift off everywhere there wasn't a bend. Really good though.
Vantage as good as the F-Type. Good speed.
Ditto the Mustang with its grunt and handling.
650S and SLS suffer from not being fast. Take too long to build speed. Both have good handling. The 650S was fastest through the last chicane. Steering change is ultra fast and stable. Noone was faster than me through there. I was catching up and pulling gaps. Car is just a bit slow.
Cayman was a surprise. Was hounding the RCZs and Veyrons. Slipstream is great and so is its speed. Thought it's be left for dead. Nope. Good choice overall.
Viper. This was awesome. String everywhere. It's has a short top speed, but it gets there quickly. Was battling three RCZs and a TT at the start. Got a good run out the final turn and passed for P2. P1 takes the inside line down the straight and I stay far left. As we enter the braking zone, P1 wants to sail left in front of me. He's been knocking people off in the previous races.
I stay right behind and we brake at the same time. Escorts himself slowly into the curbs and resets behind us. Haha.
I'm slow out of the chicane, don't block and P2 overtakes me. With a Mustang in P3. From there, me and the RCZ check out. This guy is going extremely slow at each corner. Playing the game because he knows the rwd is quicker. I can't avoid a rear bump tap and it gives me 1 second penalty.
I've got two laps to make that two seconds up. I catch him back on the final lap, at the second chicane. By the final chicane, I'm .5 away and I see the defensive positions. He's scared.
I brake deep at the parabolica and he goes wide mid-corner. Hammer down I'm stay right inside. Drops another .3s and on its bumper for P2 and Fastest Lap at the line.
Those RCZs are slow.
Last race in the TT. Started P3. It pulls Veyrons. A one red dot RCZ from Japan is all over the place. I'm in P2 and it gets me at the second chicane. I'm trying to keep my distance and the cars behind me slam into me through the second right-hander. Down to P14 I go, after a gravel trip. Geez, man.
Recover for P8. Harrassed and passed Veyrons for the remainder of the race This car is a beast. Plus, some help from others going off and penalties. Tee hee.
I'm having fun at the Temple of Speed. Whew!
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